How Riot Phreak Ruined His Reputation
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Riot Phreak (David Turley) was with League of Legends from the very beginning - and was once one of the most beloved members of the League of Legends community. His iconic casting and champion spotlights are part of League of Legends history as we know it. But after retiring from casting and moving on to become a game developer, Riot Phreak's reputation with the community has tanked to say the least. THIS is how Riot Phreak Ruined His Reputation With the League of Legends community.
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being a very condescending jerk really makes it easy to hate him
@yatoyoboku
2 ай бұрын
The truth just comes out that way love Phreak
@DXT706
2 ай бұрын
and a terrible dev
@Shari362
2 ай бұрын
@@yatoyoboku Except its not always the truth and he often ignores context to make disingenuous statements
@levislayter
2 ай бұрын
@@yatoyoboku yeah nah i get that to a point but hes just an out of touch egoist
@KyokujiFGC
2 ай бұрын
He's been like that since the Warcraft 3 days.
The problem is the way Phreak communicates with the community. He can never be wrong and his way is always the "right" way. The inverse, TFTs balance head is mostly loved as he actively communicates with the community and usually apologizes and takes the full blame when something goes completely wrong.
@Kugelschreibaer8
Ай бұрын
Funny that you say that. In the Previwe for 14.11 He said he sad he was 6 Months wrong about ksante
@Jimiez
Ай бұрын
@@Kugelschreibaer8 He made me eat my words. He's grown as a designer and a public figurehead and that makes me pretty happy
@Grriabear
Ай бұрын
lol probably because fuck league players. Never really met a nice person playing the game since 2012
@nightcoon5374
25 күн бұрын
LOL community is much more toxic than tft community. I think thats a reason why mortdog is loved
@wakkaseta8351
24 күн бұрын
So the TFT balance head is beloved because he's a spineless cuck who lets the playerbase walk all over him? I guess that tracks.
league is a hard game. Balancing it is a very daunting task. You will make mistakes. But if you put yourself up on a pedestal and say im right, everyone who says otherwise is stupid, is a sure-fire way to be hated by everyone. Not all the hate is deserved, but he did a good job at siphoning it onto himself.
@Yokai_Yuri
2 ай бұрын
It's not hard. When it comes to unwanted champs ( mostly jg champs) riots go above and beyond to make sure those champs stay in a weak or barely playable state. By that I mean "they fulfill their jg role by ganking ans taking objectives but is hardto be relevant for the team even when ahead, and if you fall behind, then its game over" Riot has done this ocer the years but when Phreak took over, they went waaaaay overboard. Also they tend to not nerfs champions they like like the Yasuo. For example, when immortal shieldbow was nerfed/changed, Riot went and buffed the yasuos in compensation 😂. Do you see that with other champs? No. Other champs get nerfed and their item as well.
@MIKAEL212345
2 ай бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri ok genius, if it is so easy then submit your patch 14.10 preview. Not only do you need to give the changes you want, you need to accuratly predict how much each change will impact the champs they touch.
@deathmark1940
2 ай бұрын
Yh u can type karthus ult
@ssbbSephi
2 ай бұрын
Its only hard if you are incompetent. But there are also actual competent people in the world who would, i dont know, realize how utterly broken support was on day 1 and not even let it be on the live servers? But phreak isnt one of them, it took him 4 months to even touch the role.
@paulotremba4688
2 ай бұрын
@@ssbbSephi thats cause he needed play it to boost his rank before he would nerf it
"phreak needs to gp q himself" holy shit xDD
@usernameluis305
Ай бұрын
It'll deal ton's of damage
@InfiniteProdu
Ай бұрын
Another good one I've heard is "Ornn E into traffic" 💀
@dieselgoinham
Ай бұрын
Phreak been bald since 2009
@llltrac9143
Ай бұрын
" phreak should 0/1 irl" and "phreak should talon E off of Riot HQ"
@lolclips4380
25 күн бұрын
@@InfiniteProdu I heard like . "w syndra throw on hm"
Prob wouldn't get half the hate if he wasn't a smug douche about balance even when he is clearly wrong. He gets too caught up on spreadsheet stats over how things actually feel in the actual game. That and abusing internal stats to personally climb is kinda a bad look.
@oldmanbanjo
2 ай бұрын
Which is incredible given the riot team used to say "we don't use win rate to balance' then Phreak comes in. Man, I can't imagine why Azir has a low winrate....
@toragic3432
2 ай бұрын
He’s fully aware that a specific champs and roles are broken and he takes full advantage of it because he’s in the balance team. He was spamming maokai support a few months back when the role is extremely broken and maokai is one of the most broken champs in the game
@TheMCmace
2 ай бұрын
yes he would absolutely get as much hate if he just ignored everything
@TheMCmace
2 ай бұрын
@@toragic3432 so like literally every other person that would mean he would've always have to play the most dogshit champ in existence
@randomhappenings
2 ай бұрын
@@toragic3432 that's what I meant by abusing internal stats to personally climb. That and it took how many nerfs did it take to actually nerf mao in a meaningful way? 3, 4 nerfs. Surely if your abusing it over many games and know how to balance things you should be able to nerf that champ correctly in 1 patch. That doesn't happen and then to act smug over it and act like players don't understand the game on top of it is what I think soured a lot of people on phreak.
HE HAS NO MANAAAAAAAAAA
@d0sxxgaming94
2 ай бұрын
Hes got big riot salary doing what he loves the most
@yuvarlananucak7131
Ай бұрын
@@d0sxxgaming94 it doesn't look like he is doing what he loves most if you look at his changes on game lol
@Bomberman64x
Ай бұрын
Hahahaha 😂
@ColdAssailant29
Ай бұрын
@@d0sxxgaming94true, I'm sure he enjoys his work judging from how he aged into 30 years in just a decade 😂
@d0sxxgaming94
Ай бұрын
@@ColdAssailant29 not much of a difference in ageing or losing years of life by playing league of legends sitting for hours everyday, flaming their own teammates , fucking their mental health. At least he will be able to support his family unlike all those people who wasted their life on this game just to avoid life in general
i mean, he let his ego and authority go to his head. azzapp one of the best vel koz players ever made an entire list of things that were wrong with the champ, not just balance wise, but actual bugs and faulty interactions with abilities. and phreak pretty much calledhim an idiot and said he didnt know what he was talking about because he isnt on the balance team
@Ykswad
Ай бұрын
And then after like two weeks they buffed/fixed velkoz e
@hanshysher6266
Ай бұрын
@@Ykswadyeah, Azzap didnt deserved to be called an idiot in the first place but lets lick Phreaks butt.
@voidroad
Ай бұрын
and rn phreak telling yasuo/yone players they just dont know how to build their champ on 14.10 and that they're not weak without lethal tempo, meanwhile dzukill : yeah thats kinda shit
@Ronan-ht6jc
Ай бұрын
@@voidroad I hate Phreak as much as we all do, but on this one he's right, yone and yasou aren't weak without lethal, they're just normal. Their mains are just so braindead and used to be absolutely busted that they feel like they're weak.
@ahall9839
Ай бұрын
It's easy to point at problems. A child can do that. Fixing them is the hard part. Fixing them without affecting anything else is impossible. Fixing them without 50% of the whiny children getting mad is impossible. As evidenced in these comments, you can fix something and people get mad at you that they're not as OP as they were before.
You forgot to mention his LOVELY interactions with the community when he is verifiably lying. Like the Karthus situation recently and the old rumble debate with Dom a few years back.
@VictorKDurand
24 күн бұрын
Great. And ?
@louiemimis598
24 күн бұрын
@@VictorKDurand And what? Just noting there are even more reasons to dislike him.
@VictorKDurand
24 күн бұрын
@@louiemimis598 Exactly. You are predetermined in proving him as "dislikeable". Your mindset is fixed and you become highly likely to stop processing information that will contradict your said 'fixed' point of view. That's a shame, because as a person, he has demonstrably done a looooooot of good and fun things for the community, in his long-term (> 10 years) service. Yet right now, you are here on a public forum advocating against a person you don't even know personally. I find it unthinkable to do this myself, that's all. 😀
@louiemimis598
23 күн бұрын
@@VictorKDurand Man, I have played this game for 10 years at this point. I was there when Phreak did the champion spotlights and his casting and ALMOST EVERYONE Loved him for it. His stupid jokes and catchphrases were used, and are still used to this day. The problem became obvious when he started talking about balance and eve worse when he became the one in charge of it. I don't need to know him personally to judge his character. I judge what he says and does on his very curated videos. It's not like people are clipping him out of context. He edits his own videos. He disingenuously used stats multiple times throught the years to prove his points and when called out he simply ignored it or doubled down. The dude developed an ego problem as he got more famous. That's it. It happens. Did people go too far ? yes. Did I ? Absolutely not.
@yuha7051
18 күн бұрын
@@VictorKDurand You're using a lot of words to basically tell someone he has no reasons to be against phreak's balance decisions, while you have a whole fu****** video above that you did watch, that showcases how phreak across the years have been bullshitting the community as soon as he put his nose in balance and game design. Has he only done bad changes ? No. Did he just force his balance without proper evidence for it to be meaningfull rather than just throwing pasta at the wall and hoping it sticks ? YES. Everyone liked him (to a degree, because repetion comic can be annoying for some), when he was shootcasting, it's the NOW phreak that people hate, and for reasons to do so.
Hes super self indulgent, even when met him at LCS around season 2 at there first studio he blew me off for an autograph. Kiwikid was watching and instantly came over and signed my shirt. SHOUT OUT TO KIWI
@Lawlers
Ай бұрын
So what you’re saying is Phreak got everything he deserved? Mostly.
@what241354646
Ай бұрын
@@Lawlers it’s a result of circumstance, but he’s always had an ego and that hasn’t helped
@Lawlers
Ай бұрын
@@what241354646 yeah to be too good to sign a fans shirt, ya know one of the many people who pay your salary, on SEASON 2 is wiiiilld. How big a head he must’ve had.
@sky_pirate
Ай бұрын
@what241354646 I'm gonna assume "blew off" is something you have evidence was out of ego or spite? I hate when people go out of their way to mention that people didn't live up to their expectations in such a vague way. It's borderline joining a witch hunt once there's a bandwagon.
@what241354646
Ай бұрын
@@sky_pirate I didn’t really go out of my way, it’s relevant. I’ve had a dislike for him since s2 which has compounded with his attitude while being on the balance team, the comment section is for use and it’s user moderated if my story was so baseless and vague ( which referenced exactly when it happened and where) I can retell the story to you if that’s going to give you some closure. I even still have the signed tee shirt; which has krepo, Vasili, kiwi kid, voyboy, amazing, xpecial signatures. I even saw prolly having a dart with some coaches which was cool in a humanising way. Maybe you should just carry less hate and realise that some people leave the house instead of circle jerk reddit :)
His "i dont get to decide what gets buffed or not" phrase back in patch 13.10 doesnt apply anymore. Since hes the head of balance team, he has already stated in some patch breakdown that every change goes through him, and he effectively chooses what to PASS and what to NOT pass, so in a way he DOES decide what changes the game gets (or at least MOST of them).
@TiaguinhoMu
Ай бұрын
Big UP on this comment
I really love the parallel between Phreak saying "you can type is not that hard" and the old Phreak in a spotlight, talking about "We added pings for a dynamic gameplay". This man only cares about what he thinks, and even saying OUT LOUD "This change is a PERSONAL touch of mine" on Seraphines R nerfs, i know the champ is broken but what kind of BALANCE LEADER CHOOSES SOMETHING BASED ON PERSONAL OPNION!!! ITS A COMPETITIVE GAME!!
@ElderwoodHecarim-kw2wt
2 ай бұрын
real :3 im still waiting for hecarim buffs
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
Ай бұрын
he says a personal touch meaning he was in charge not having a personal reason
@vanjamenadzer
Ай бұрын
@@ElderwoodHecarim-kw2wt You had your few months of OP-ness.
@Skarfar90
Ай бұрын
As a Seraphine player, I absolutely hated the changes, besides the small QoL on her Q missile speed. - Not support, but midlane, where she was initially designed to be. Phreak absolutely shat all over my favorite champ to play, by nerfing the R damage, the passive damage, and made Q harder to last-hit minions with. The balance team didn't even factor in the damage nerfs in ARAM mode either, so Seraphine is absolute dogwater to play there, at least in her intended way. - Not to mention the removal of Night Harvester, which was a great item on her. - Changes like these takes a way the dynamic way of playing champions in different roles. So what if she was good in botlane with another support, there are other ways to balance that lane (like making ADC's actually useful again), without taking away a champ's ability to be a flexible pick in multiple roles. Plus, at the time of her drastic nerfs, she was the best counterpick into Jinx, who was incredibly oppressive with her passive stacking. A good Seraphine could easily shut her down.
@skinnybuggo
Ай бұрын
That's not what personal touch means
Is this the same dude who said Vel'koz wasnt in a bad spot, when he had the biggest low in history?
@shaddoww1136
Ай бұрын
Then looked at his stats and immediately back steped "Oh...oh! Maybe he is bad, ok he definately needs buffs" -phreak
@dresean3725
Ай бұрын
@@shaddoww1136 No you have it mixed up. Phreak did say Vel'koz isn't bad, but the person you're thinking of is Riot August. Someone is his chat said Vel'koz is bad and should be buffed, he said "no he's not", then checked and was like, "oh shit i was wrong we NEED to buff this champion immediately". His was respectable because he actually checked and immediatley admitted his mistake and apologized without making any excuses. Whereas Phreak basically said rhe entire Vel'koz community doesnt understand their champ and never went back on that...
@derbart1191
Ай бұрын
@@dresean3725 oh OK thank you for the clarification
@MattBG67
Ай бұрын
It's not even about the lows, it's about not making any quality of life changes and not fixing bugs
@Matt77125
Ай бұрын
@@shaddoww1136phreak defenders remember something that never even happened lmao
that ''dearest karthus'' was his end lmao
Being a designer in ANY design field is hard. But the biggest no no is an ego and unwillingness to accept mistakes. This is one of the first things any designer learns in school… or learns the hard way in the real world. Phreak is ignoring the lesson.
@shaddoww1136
Ай бұрын
Sad thing is he dosent know that because he went from being a caster, someone with very little actual knowledge on the game behind the scenes, straight to designer/balance team. This was always going to be a disaster because he simply lacks MEANINGFUL experience, but has the ego of a 30 year designer.
@SmugLilBugger
Ай бұрын
Pretty much all billionaire companies today haven't learned this lesson. They learned the opposite: Get rich off of the hard work of good developers, then turn on radio silence and think of all of your players as drooling mouthbreathers and that you're never wrong. Fortnite does this, League of Legends does this, Gacha devs do this, too.
There are multiple things that happen with Riotlers in the Balancing team that is to obvious. Once a Riot games dev got destroyed by a Pyke mid (pyke mid was very bad at the time but this dude was a one trick) and next patch Pyke gets hard nerfed to nearly not playable anymore. Then Riot Auberaum gets pinged by players for inting as Karthus and pings get "disabled". Phreak hits master with Maokai who was/is beyond broken for months with a 61% win rate on 110 games. Janna and Sona are also one of the highest win rate champs in game and are one of his most played + best win rate....and let's not forget where he wanted to NERF Vel koz because his "statistics" he has showed he is to strong. Wishing someone the death or other wise is not right but him ignoring every critic and being arrogant didnt help at all.
@ssbbSephi
2 ай бұрын
Not only those champions, but also the support item itself and all its upgraded versions were beyond broken, the extremely efficient and cheap other items like frozen heart for what was is, 2100? that let every support 1v1 the adc with ease while also making them unkllable. The nerfs to jungle so that poor phreak coudnt easily die to ganks anymore. i thought support was inflated and broken before season 14 came out and he buffed it, kept abusing it for months, let players suffer in that state for the entire season when it should have been it should have been a hotfix on day 1. No, it shouldnt even have make it to the live servers.
@antonioreconquistador
2 ай бұрын
The caitlyn mana regen buff was the funniest
@leahx4552
2 ай бұрын
@@ssbbSephi Yeah. There is way to much "coincident" in terms of buffs/nerfs when it affects Riotlers....Its just super annoying that somehow in every video this never is mentioned and it is always "poor phreak gets hate for nothing" blah blah...
@eeempy99
2 ай бұрын
tbf the pyke mid changes also came when pyke was played top and mid in pro play. wunder was very well known to play pyke top
@mattiacoppola
2 ай бұрын
@@antonioreconquistador that was a personal thing
"You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
@hggpi
Ай бұрын
Hey alexa Play unravel
@CoffeeSipper555
Ай бұрын
More like "When you don't speak about things you don't know you can appear as an hero but when you show your incompetence and arrogance non stop you suddenly are the villain"
@johnnymonsterrrr
Ай бұрын
Was never hero just toxic jerk
6:39 Why do all lying public figures act the same way when called out.
@Draggon211
Ай бұрын
"Nuh uh"
@Matt77125
Ай бұрын
they think they're smarter than everyone else
@RuteFernandes-qs6pc
15 күн бұрын
Because it's frustating to be public enemy #1 where nobody tries to even understand you, let alone know what you are going through. The community saw a punching bag for their frustation and went balls deep nonstop. Phreak as we know got killed by the community, not by himself. Yall simply do not know what it is like to wake up to death threats and fear for your life, yet talk all mighty because your little game with a billion champions feels slightly unbalanced.
@alexderek5233
11 күн бұрын
@@RuteFernandes-qs6pc HE HAS NO MANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@npsick
7 күн бұрын
Narcissism
Remember 1 thing,mao supp jg sat at 56%wr for 2months unnerfed,and when they did he still was at 54 so yea,where s the 50-50 rule when we are talking about his champ pool
"People didn't like the new Phreak." He's always been like this. He just has the power to do something with it now. Or did people forget the really bad takes he'd have on stream?
10:08 miss information: he straight up got spam pinged by a karthus for inting and literally 2 days later removes spam pinging
@CollectorVX
2 ай бұрын
that was Riot Auberaum, not phreak
@ula17404
2 ай бұрын
@@CollectorVXwell you can't make it too obvious no?
@leahx4552
2 ай бұрын
He also hit Master with maokai...one of the jnglers that was the strongest for months and never got nerfed somehow....
@MIKAEL212345
2 ай бұрын
first of all, that wasn't phreak. Second of all, god forbid a game dev actually plays their game, sees something bad and then reacts to it. You do realize it would WORSE if the change happened without any Rioter having personally experienced it, right? It is a good thing that Rioters play the game they work on.
@sathariel3231
2 ай бұрын
@@leahx4552 I thought he played him support...
You didn't mention the buffs to his champions and nerfs to the counters to his champions
Phreak is the head of balance, he is responsible even if he had no direct involvement in the particular change. If his teams fails, then its his fault for letting them ruin the game or not firing them just because they are his friends.
@Dash_ishere
2 ай бұрын
Thats what i am saying sending death threats stretch too far but his job is to balance and if it is not accept your mistake and dont be an asshole
It's his condescending attitude and his clear lack of high elo game knowledge that makes him unfit to be in his position
@GG-hi5if
Ай бұрын
And you’re d1/master?
@angelfury8182
Ай бұрын
@@GG-hi5if higher
@GG-hi5if
Ай бұрын
@@angelfury8182 opgg cheers
@dagowow
Ай бұрын
80 iq hardcap. The majority of game devs have never and will never be in the .1% of their game. Being uneducated and publicly speaking should be a crime.
@noribinios5873
Ай бұрын
So you need to be the best tennis player to make rules for tennis or the MVP in NBA to make rules for NBA?
Phreak is usually being the freak of balance changes
Dearest Karthus, I hope this finds you well. We seem to have found ourselves in a dire situation at the bottom lane. Please consider casting your ultimate ability to assist us as i do believe Lee sin has come to dive our tower. Sincerely, Your bottom lane
"Freak wasnt directly behind the ping changes so the hate didnt make sense" *shows clip of him defending ping changes and telling people to type karthus ult*
The sad thing is, Phreak can use his voice to actually bring legitimate changes. But what happened is that he got drunk in it and just started to make these mistakes in the patch changes. Another thing is how he replied to the concerns, where he is not really thinking of the point raised by the player base. It's sad to see the voice of League, to actually be this person now...
@d0sxxgaming94
2 ай бұрын
Your dumb,you know why, because phreak is 1 person, these patches are worked on by at least 20 people. He just coordiantes it to get it done , thats what being head of anything is, knowing everyone and knowing who can get the fucking job done. His not making up all the changes! Lmao his got a list of changes already that needs to happen and as the head , you dont use your hands you use your head! Like in find the fucking people that will get the job done and make sure it is done by the time the big boss neeeds it done. Phreak the man to get it done thats why hes where his at.
12:12 - "You can never please everyone", but you can indeed upset everyone "You are wrong and if you disagree you are clearly wrong and stupid" -Phreak probably.
Bro, there is no way to defend Phreak after the Velkoz incident. Also, the "you can type karthus ult" is the most outrageous Dev argument ever since "do you guys not have phones" back in Blizzcon 2018.
His diamond climb with jungle and support was after getting to diamond with twitch adc.
@onlywide
2 ай бұрын
twitch been op 3 seasons tho anyways. i say this as a twitch player lol hes still half a step above every other adc even afterthe nerfs hes getting
Think we should make an annual effort to send him new creative ''league compliments'' like ''Ornn E into incoming traffic'', make it an official day.
I quit then come back to play league. I’ve been doing the same thing for 13 years now. One thing I learned is that league will always be toxic and you will never please this community. But I will say if the toxicity starts with the developers, that’s a clear red flag. I just want ADC to be more of a game changer especially on the early-mid game phase.
@damartsnakk
Ай бұрын
That’s why I stopped playing aswell, adc hasn’t been good since s3
@better_mindset17
Ай бұрын
the definition of ADC is to be a late game carry. you farm up in early and become stronger then everyone late - thats the tradeoff. Making them strong in early mid AND late - sure lets make botlane a solo lane and give them even more power ... jesus
@morningglory2129
Ай бұрын
Bot lane is a large decider of a match rn.
Maokai used to be very op for many patchs and he didn't get nerfed, janna has beeen op for ages still not nerfed.Any other champion in a similar state would get insta hotfixed but this guy shamelessly doesn't want to nerf champions he play
@someguyontheinternet1093
Ай бұрын
maokai i get how he can easily be nerfed to a okay state but how the fuck do you even nerf janna
@better_mindset17
Ай бұрын
@@someguyontheinternet1093 longer cds lol - its not that hard
@someguyontheinternet1093
Ай бұрын
@@better_mindset17 and the fuck does that do exactly? she already has pretty decently high CD for what are pitiably tiny stat boost spells and she's still gonna be a roaming bastard with the ability to out rotate everyone. okay you nerf her cd. guess what, thats not what makes her strong anyways so again, atleast try a little. how the fuck do you nerf her
he really should have stayed a caster, he truly excelled at it. Seems to be a better fit for him as a person as well, especially compared to his current role
“You can type karthas ult in chat” That’s crazy bro if only there was a way to automate that process in a game where seconds matter. Crazyyyyyyyy bro
man I still remember his personal vendetta against tyler1
riot balance team is like ''neverending story''. Despite phreak's dumb decisions, its nothing new to balance things in wrong way- nerf kassadin dmg with -5 move speed or like ''hey, karma deals too much dmg, time to buff her shield and make her more support than ap''... or even make rell jungle and remove after because riot didnt like that.. maybe hes hated for a reason, but i rather think its riot itself, and phreak is a part of it... the guy in wrong place.. i believe.. right?
@nero.blackstar
2 ай бұрын
Still don't know why they removed Rell jgl. I absolutely loved it. Yet, after a while, it was a rare pick - at least, in Emerald elo. Can't say for other elos.
@saimur2126
2 ай бұрын
@@nero.blackstar i rarely play rell, im not even jungler, but still jungle rell is more interesting pick than every yi, ww or forrest gump aka udyr imo. And riot did that because why not, they can.
@Volidasp
2 ай бұрын
@@saimur2126 Most of these changes were to serve the proplay scene most than the average soloq/normal game, still dumb af but what can you do/say.
@nero.blackstar
2 ай бұрын
@@saimur2126 Yeah, exactly. Jungle Rell is interesting and unique. It helps make the jungle a bit more open with variety. Yet, the fact that they butchered Rell jungle for no reason upsets me.
@ssbbSephi
2 ай бұрын
@@nero.blackstar it shoudnt have existed in the first place
Phreak attacking player base sure didnt help his case Edit: Phreak is at Balance team's lead and he is the person where most changes gets APROVED by him in the end He might not be involved in most decisions but he sure "stamps" them out
Mortdog is to TFT what Phreak was to LoL. Sad to see Phreak tank like this, given the passion that he showed in the early years.
I was an old follower of his channel, and watch him grow more ego throughout the years, and become obsess and cocky with his numbers, does not take feedbacks but only arguments with his percentage and spreadsheets
The main moment I lost my respect for him was when he openly admitted that both the balance team and the pro players said that the change he wanted to make was bad he still went through with the change. Basically saying no, you pro players and my balance team don't know anything. This will solve the problem, which was around the Maokai being OP for a couple of patches while him having a 61% winrate and finally reached masters which when you look at his stats he would never gotten without him abusing the champ he kept OP for so many patches.
@sky_pirate
Ай бұрын
There's a principle in business that says people don't know what they want until they're told - because even if you get positive feedback, words are just that. We would not have the Nintendo Switch, the most respected gaming console in generations, if Nintendo listened to player feedback. Motion controls, touch screens, low processing power, tablet controller, these features all received scathing reviews in past hardware. Yet Nintendo persisted.
@mformotivation9152
Ай бұрын
@@sky_pirate wrong comparison. Nintendo is one of the oldest giants of the gaming industry. their vision is not to be ignored easily. They also had fck ups and learned from them. in this case, Phreak came to the balance team from a player and caster background. his expertise is rightfully questioned, and he refuses to acknowledge his mistakes even when he's CLEARLY wrong about something. even after stats (his favorite metric to measure his performance) show he's wrong, he still puts his foot down and double down on his mistakes. people don't hate him because he's bad at his job. we hate him because he looks down on everyone and claims that he knows better ALWAYS, just because he's the balance lead. people tend to hate egotistical jerks, that's all.
@sky_pirate
Ай бұрын
@@mformotivation9152 I was pointing out that you wrongfully described the moment you lost respect for him. People often ignore good sense for a reason. You learned his reason, thus losing respect for him. Not for ignoring good sense.
You know what i recognized? The old Phreak laughed alot more and alot brighter than the new one. The old Phreak had fun playing and balancing league while the new one only trys to do it best and totally forgot why he wanted to be in the balancing team in the first place; So everyone can have fun with the game. At least thats how i view it ^^
let me also mention that Phreak was abusing Support to climb to grandmaster when he was hardstuck dia for all his life. Support, which was a broken role with broken items and broken champs, got hard buffed with season 14 and he kept abusing champs like seraphine, maokai, janna must have known how broken they were and refused to nerf them for at least 3 months into the season with janna finaly receiving her first nerf after 4 months, close to the end of the split. Players had to suffer for over 4 MONTHS with this. thats INSANE
@IzuKiNoUzushio
2 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that they nerfed 47% winrate nidalee 4 patches earlier than his 57% winrate otp support maokai, I have genuinely no clue as to how this guy still gets to work in this industry
@paulomesquita5278
2 ай бұрын
We could say he is using his role to his own benefit. He doesn't think MACRO (to us, players), but MICRO (to him and himself only). It is hard to believe, but putting all things togather, it does make sense.
@GothyG
2 ай бұрын
If support is so broken then I should be able to climb from bronze to diamond, but I can’t and I main support and I play most of the support champions, I build different types AP mixed with healing, I main sera sona and Morgana aka 3 broken ass champions and yet you wanna say he’s exploiting shit when even support players in lower ranks can do the same shit and not move a single inch in competitive.
@IzuKiNoUzushio
2 ай бұрын
@@GothyG sera and Morgana are absolutely carburo dogshit champs, and Sona is only useful if you play with a human, so definitely not in bronze
@rvs_rogue7049
2 ай бұрын
@@GothyG Keep in mind that Phreak has a Riot account, so he was probably always on smurfQ playing with people that have at 3 neurons active and good hands, the other normal players are playing on pisslow mmr with stupid ppl, feeders, toxics etc
The fact that Riot actually thought it was a good idea to promote this guy to the head of the balance team is absolutely mind boggling.
Oh no, i know the ping shit grew on Riot Auberaums pile and he shall be shunned forever. Implements ping mute, doesn't use it himself when he gets pinged and instead removes the ability to ping, 10/10 game design I didnt want to communicate in a moba anyways. But how Phreak got stomped by some random karthus then immediately nerfed karthus is still funny. Him flaming T1 is just sad tho.
@vanjamenadzer
Ай бұрын
Ah, the chat and ping "abuse" is one of the things I will never understand from a company viewpoint. If I was RIOT-er, I would make a short video presentation of how EASY it is to combat chat toxicity and ping abuse with simple built in button and it would be unskippable video you will have to watch when you open client. But no, I will get permabanned for calling a run it down mid support "autistic", while he will go 0/7 in first few minutes and won't get any punishment.
@Kek393
Ай бұрын
@@vanjamenadzer But they don't want to combat toxicity. They want to show you how many people got banned for toxicity and how that makes League "moroe approachable to it's players". Realistically there should be no bans for typing shit in chat, why? Because you can just write /muteall. But nobody's gonna do that because they'd rather cry and moan about it instead of ACTUALLY creating the safe space they want, aka muting toxic people.
@Delouser69
Ай бұрын
The nail in the coffin for me was when they took out the ability to ping teammates. Haven’t played the game since.
Nope, nope, nope. That guy totally deserves every bit of hate he receives. I fully supported Phreak back when he was a caster, but now his ego is unbearable. It's not a question he knows the game, but that doesn't mean he knows how to make it balanced or fun. And it's blatantly obvious he is making some changes to support HIS champions. Plus, his inability to not only accept the fact he screwed up but blame the community for being idiots by not seeing his supposed data is just icing on this ugly cake.
@xv9866
Ай бұрын
get this comment higher
Honestly when Maokai was sitting at 56% win rate and his entire play log was just him spamming him Jng, that was more than enough to point the finger at it for playing favorites
Phreak was starting to ruin his reputation way before retiring from casting BTW
just play what he plays then you know the meta, also funny everytime he gets stomped by a certain champion it immedietly gets nerfed. He abusing his power for his own solo queue
Let’s not talk about the time he hit gm abusing maokai while refusing to nerf it for months
Does Phreak have a Dugtrio and other pokemon card on display in his home in some of those clips?
@Matt77125
Ай бұрын
no thats just phreaks head
Abusing champions you know is too powerful while in the position to balance said champions is extremely scummy. Even if he was not personally involved in their balance, he should know that it looks terrible.
@shaddoww1136
Ай бұрын
Even if hes not directly involved hes still the head now. The decisions go through him and he ultimately has the final say. So its very, very likely hes been involved in those scummy changes. Even if it was just approving them, despite knowing they are to strong.
@mikevos4460
Ай бұрын
So he should intentionally play weaker champs purely because he's in the lead of balance? Lmao
Phreak had the legendary statement: "Pings are not relevant if you want your karthus to ult you can type karthus r pls" edit i just saw it made it into the video xD
He was a hard stuck adc main. Stuck in Diamond 4 and 5 when that was still a thing. He switched to support and then ignored the adc role. Adc players asked for 25% crit chance back. But of course that’s ignored. Nerfing Jungle even further making it so junglers won’t even bother farming their jungle camps anymore. Why bother when laner exp is just better.
@Shaggy87781
2 ай бұрын
yeah i dont know how phreak defends "using jungle to climb" as well. hes been negative wr on nearly every single jungler (if he even plays jungle) and hasnt really mained jungle in almost 4 years.
@SansTheClassic
2 ай бұрын
Well now he brought back 25% crit chance, but also removed something...
I think you meant to say "synonymous" at 8:05, not "synomynous" xD I had to listen to it again to make sure I heard correctly haha Btw, I found your channel like 2 days ago and have already watched most of your content, so great job and keep it up!
professional videos, you deserve more attention, keep it up !
how xchinnin vanished NEXT.
@Demi-kid
2 ай бұрын
Omg my favorite French Asian youtuber. All I know the guy got tired of making English videos and went to French KZread.
@LEKIDOMAN
2 ай бұрын
Recently rewatched some of his old vids and man while the jokes definitely aged i still love it.
Phreak's my hero. I've never seen so many pissed off league players.
this time i have actually researched and wish to ask of you to make a documentry vid on ThePeacePigeon, Trinimortal and UberDanger (please!) Also the one on gripex was sooo good but sad at the same time
whos in charge of adding emerald fire that guy. most unenoyable climb to diamond ive ever had. #BRINGBACKPROMOS
* odd changes all around * awful takes on said changes * egocentric comments towards the backlash * continues dickish attitude * doesn't take any contsbility on his attitude. "Why are you all so toxic? Not engaging on socials anymore" Hypocrite.
@bleh8407
2 ай бұрын
realest comment ive ever seen
the typing of karthus r is the thing that really hit me the wrong way, i play league without chat on whenever i am really tryharding because pings are good enough to get your point across, but now that i cant ping anyones r's or death timers my ability to play around my team is much harder
By biggest complain about Freak has only and always been how he's insuferable as a caster yet constantly got to cast every single big game
People always hate the balance team, he went and made himself the most known member of the balance team. League players aren't the most stable anyway, so honestly, I think anyone who was in the role would get equally hated if they were visible.
@vornamenachname8629
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree, this is a thought which is very underrepresented in the discussion of this topic. Becoming the main representative of a team that decides upon the balancing of a game with a community of this level of toxicity (before him joining aswell as after) was obvious to have consquences as it has now and should have been predicted. He either should have taken that into account or should not have made that decision in the first place.
The fact that Phreak is employed at all is mind blowing. He was a TERRIBLE announcer who was no good at the game to somehow being allowed to balance the game? Played since S1 & now that he's balancing the game he's finally masters after 14 years lmao
@brownstreetboys4623
2 ай бұрын
iF I was Phreak, if i noticed my fan base was on a decline, Id take my experience and decent resume, towards a different job that values his caster skills
@adcas3y
2 ай бұрын
@brownstreetboys4623 I couldn't care less what he does I just know he's awful at this job & it sucks
@LeonsHarmonica
2 ай бұрын
you trippin i love phreak
@adcas3y
2 ай бұрын
@@LeonsHarmonica 😂
@jhinwick5251
2 ай бұрын
Womp womp
btw, the problem is him doing balance changes on his or "specific players" sentiments. Not him using hard statistics. like his sentiment, player sentiment is easily dependant on losing games to x "and feeling it's strange".
Phreak is a good example for the Peter-principle at work.
To be honest, I feel very sorry for Phreak. The lound part of the community is a dayum toxic place. I mean we see how angry and shouty people get for losing at a game in this video. Propably his main problem was being the one person everybody knew in the design crew. Like he said, he s deciding shit on his own, but when you are the only name of a team that a toxic brick knows, its obvious they will assume its your doing and they start flaming. No wonder why he started showing that "I know better"-attitude. When you get flamed for everything that goes wrong and not a in constructive way, you stop listening to feedback. I m not saying that everything he did, working on the balance team was a good decision and maybe the ADC Crit Item Rework was a huge blunder, but yeah... that guy worked for years commenting on the game. You get better and judging balance through that, but you arent perfect. Mistakes happening and what the toxic part of the community did to him was never even remotely deserved.
@Mega11
2 ай бұрын
Ur completely ignoring how condescending he is and how lose to champion=> nerf it next patch
@WiiTara
2 ай бұрын
@@Mega11 I highly doubt that this is how he/the team works. Again, he does not decide on changes by himself. From what I got to know about Phreak he tends to back up his claims with data and statistics. Feels like confirmation bias to me.
@Mega11
2 ай бұрын
@@WiiTara it’s not even confirmation bias. Remember a while back when azzap was talking about what directions riot could take in buffing velkoz? Well after buffing velkoz in the one way he advised against mrphreak goes and says “ we didn’t get any feedback” and “velkoz players dont know how their champion works” like yeah bro an hour stream by the best velkoz player arguably in the world detailing what’s wrong with the champion and how it should be fixed isn’t enough feedback. And that’s just one example of how ignorant this pig is
@MrDEAFBLINDDUMB
2 ай бұрын
He lost me when he said "You can type Karthus ult pls" when do you have time to type??????? He took the ult ping away!!!! And said just type it?!
@IzuKiNoUzushio
2 ай бұрын
@@WiiTaraThe only arguments provided are winrate arguments, sometimes even taken from iron to bronze elo ( see Naafiri's nerfs last year), other than that it's totally right to say that he's managing the game for his own pleasure ( as seen with him refusing to nerf support maokai for 4 patches in a row as maokai was his otp )
i will always respect Phreak for actually having the strength to put himself in the public sphere and somewhat communicate with the player base, and dont really blame him for the way he acts ,because put yourself in his shoes, you want to ask for feedback, and the feedback is to kys , like...
when i saw phreak in someones stream playing league the first thing i thought of was he must know some easter eggs for all the champions
This video could have been so much better if you had just asked Rhaastie, a lot of missing info
Most people don't realize just how toxic the Internet can be. Phreak always had to balance his higher-than-average intelligence and ego against his love for the game and community, but when the community is toxic and sending death-threats, it's easy to see him give up on that investment. Anyone would. The community has essentially reduced Phreak to the worst parts of himself and have taken no responsibility for it. Whatever Phreak himself is guilty of, the community more than matches. It's an unfortunate and vicious cycle.
freak szn
This video is mostly defending phreak, but he defends every decision, even if he doesn't directly make them. Most of the changes to league in the last 6-7 years have been bad, the riot team doesn't know what they are doing and phreak is a part of that.
After not playing for months, and uninstalling today, I’m sad to see how things have been turning out.
6:50 Excessive blinking can indicate anxiety, which often pairs with lying
@gengar618
2 ай бұрын
“Reading body language” is a pseudo science with very little actual backing. It’s possible to use things like this as tells, but don’t embarrass yourself by pretending someone doing something that could be caused by a myriad of things to just him lying
This video starts exactly like the score esports one on the exact same matter: "how was it possible from him to go from fan favorite to hated?" The Score video bottom line was: people basically got convinced of stuff and ended up blaming him for everything just for a weird brain disposition. I would argue: he was never a "fan favorite".
Becoming a game designer is already rough when it seems like your experience is limited, but then being the face of it. Is crazy rough, but then holding your finger up saying "Uhm actually you're wrong" is the true recipe for disaster. The game is historically toxic and everyone historically flames the balance changes, but giving the players a face that's telling them their wrong is just, man... He should've followed Jeff Kaplan's Lead...
I thought it was the T1 incident
imagine getting mad over league LOL touch grass
I feel like a lot of people complaining are out of touch with reality
I wouldn't say Phreak was fan Favorite there are numerous Riot Employees who were far more favorite than Phreak . Like Nikasaur , Quickshot , Sjokz , Joe Miller even Montecristo
@antonioreconquistador
2 ай бұрын
He was recognizable and very publicly active... Maybe he was Tencent's favorite but that's about it.
man thats crazy he was so well liked back from like 2009-2013 when i quit
Give the guy a break
TLDR: 1-He F ed jungle 2-Over buffed support and made them 1v9 for 7 patches in s14 3-trolled everyone with the ping changes (type karthus ult) gross 4-made chat ban system so harsh for no reason 5-Janna is always op or whatever he plays 6-He re f ed jungle in s14 7-He made fightera > tanks and assasins combined 8-Thanks god he got distracted by Seraphine and Corki since no one play them (players got some safe time) 9-he forces their useless reworks to be fun (reksai and skarner) they can have have 55% wr but he won't accept that the rework is bad And most important please stop wasting air😊 Like so phreak see it
i just quit the game at this point this is the second month of me without playing the game never felt the same after 12.10 and my main champ just got fucked because of those changes i tried playing a week ago but had problems with vanguard then I just uninstalled this shit of a game
His reputation is just fine. Just a bunch of crybabies complaining. I think the game is in the best overall state it's in been over the last several years.
@ronoronoronorono
2 ай бұрын
Found the tencent bot
@racries8708
2 ай бұрын
@@ronoronoronorono ? Ok.
@Nyaracuga
2 ай бұрын
@@ronoronoronoronoi think phreak is a dumbass douchebag but people are allowed to not hate him
@oscarvidrio4336
2 ай бұрын
phreaks burner account 😂
@eyeslikeoceans
2 ай бұрын
I’ve played since beta and it’s definitely in one of its better seasons atm. Sure, Riot will always do dumb things and ruin parts of the game for no reason, but people just love to complain and cry and bad players would rather complain about Riot than work to improve and actually learn how to beat the champs they hate.
i remember this one time someone took photo of his house and posted it on reddit LOL
@WiiTara
2 ай бұрын
Thats completly fucked up. What piece of human garbage would do sth like that?
He could dish the heat but couldnt take it
The only thing that pissed me off from phreak was that he used gold+ pick ban rates to explain buffs or nerfs meant for pro play. So basically he equated gold players to literal top of challenger players and acted like this statistical analysis was sound.
i hate him for what he did to seraphine recently like removing the execute on her Q
@Kappa_420
2 ай бұрын
Should've deleted her instead tbh
@Slayyyaphine
2 ай бұрын
@@Kappa_420 ☹
@fahrenheit142
2 ай бұрын
@@Kappa_420 based 🗿
@SnaggyDemon
2 ай бұрын
Just get c
@rudiahries9942
2 ай бұрын
Literally. Forcing Seraphine into supp/apc instead of the midlaner she was designed to be.
You die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
At Riot, you are promoted for loyalty to the company. This is most likely why he is head of the balance team, even though he is most likely underqualified
Death threats and harm wishing are absolutely not acceptable. And regarding Phreak, i would really wish for him to stay as a commentator and the champ spotlight guy. He was really good at those jobs.
i think he is a showcase for what happens if people do their job well and then get promoted away from what they can do well into a position they are obviously not cut out for suffering in the process.
Never forget this man built thornmail and morello on Singed
You know. A good salesman doesn't get angry when you tell them their product is crap, they find a way to convince you that the product is good, sell it to you and you end liking them. Phreak doesn't have the attitude of a salesman, despite part of his work being selling you the changes and convincing you that the changes ar good, no matter how shit these changes really are. Even if Phreak and the dev team made good decisions over the balance changes in the game, I think it's clear that he doesn't have the attitude to be right person on the front of presenting these changes. If he was charismatic and likeable, it could be, but with this condescending attitude, he could stay as the dev team lead, but not on the front of social media. He just doesn't have the personality for it.
I never knew Phreak was controversial. I remember his champion spotlights when I was playing League in Season 3-5.
I wonder what the next Shaco nerf is going to be.
Hard to stress how important it was for League to create "fan content". Spotlights and sharing fan art