How QBs Can Throw A PERFECT Spiral

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  • @jameswallace5133
    @jameswallace51332 жыл бұрын

    Breaking the palm habit has made my spirals tight. I was coached to have as much of my hand on the ball since I had smaller hands, along with swinging my front elbow down hard. Its crazy to think that some coaches have little idea what they're saying LOL

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that’s totally wrong😂 glad I could give you some insight man

  • @rulinghand2166

    @rulinghand2166

    2 жыл бұрын

    Who would palm the ball while throwing… that’s so uncomfortable anyways

  • @jameswallace5133

    @jameswallace5133

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rulinghand2166 it’s surprising comfy, especially since I have 8 inch hands which are fairly small on the ball

  • @j.g.mcbell9494

    @j.g.mcbell9494

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a HS coach I’m blown away at this. Literally any 5 minute video on a coaching site, hell even KZread, will show that’s the exact wrong way to throw. You need to accelerate your elbow *through* the throw to get a quicker release, definitely not down. It’s irresponsible. This is a dangerous game and if you don’t know what you’re doing get out of the way before you ruin a kids life.

  • @j.g.mcbell9494

    @j.g.mcbell9494

    2 жыл бұрын

    @THE TRACKCAR then you simply haven’t been in front of good QB coaches. Every QB on earth, possibly minus Rodgers (because I can’t find any flaws there and I’ve yet to hear someone give one) has mechanical aspects to be improved. It might be as small and simple as they’re extending their front foot out 2 inches too far on the throw and losing a lot because of it. But everyone has something.

  • @niceauthority2641
    @niceauthority26412 жыл бұрын

    This is perfect since I am trying to get better before school when I do start football.Thank you so much!

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man hope this helps!

  • @kenxiong6830
    @kenxiong68302 жыл бұрын

    Definitely agree with you! The pointer finger matters the most. If I can feel my pointer finger roll off the ball I know it will be a spiral

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessir no doubt!

  • @ArthurTheAce
    @ArthurTheAce Жыл бұрын

    This man has taught me more about football than anyone else ✌🏻

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you bro! Thank you for watching the videos and I’m glad they can help

  • @aplonicycommunity7407
    @aplonicycommunity74072 жыл бұрын

    If you followed his steps and still cant throw spiral it's ok Just keep finding the right grip for you. And also throwing over the shoulder is always more accurate.

  • @Damion-
    @Damion-2 жыл бұрын

    I needed this thx

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man hope it helps

  • @zzz-jj6zh
    @zzz-jj6zh2 жыл бұрын

    This is why QB hand size is so much more important.

  • @Noah.Nation
    @Noah.Nation2 жыл бұрын

    I usually put more pressure on my middle finger and it works for me

  • @HarshPatel-so7gl
    @HarshPatel-so7gl Жыл бұрын

    I need this, the index finger tip helps a lot 🏈

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Yessir glad this could help!

  • @tintedishere6615
    @tintedishere66152 жыл бұрын

    This video has helped me tremendously! Thank you for the tip.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man glad this could help you out!

  • @liusam651
    @liusam651 Жыл бұрын

    This video helped my lefthand more than my right for some reason

  • @soapevar
    @soapevar2 жыл бұрын

    Here because we have a football unit in school lol and my teams mad at me because I can’t throw

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope it helps 😂

  • @liamw6335
    @liamw63352 жыл бұрын

    I’m a wr but this was still so helpful for just throwing around with people thank u so much

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man glad this helps!

  • @stevenbruno7710
    @stevenbruno77108 ай бұрын

    Today was my true day 1 learning QB mechanics via YT and spending some time putting that in motion. And the Number 1 reason I started throwing more and more spirals(albeit not insanely far like 10-15 yards) is the grip. Having a gap between your palm and the ball is tremendously important as well as grip strength. You should be gripping the ball hard enough that its your fingers holding the ball not the palm

  • @redpillforreal3053
    @redpillforreal3053 Жыл бұрын

    This guy watched a Tom Brady video, I need to see a resume lol

  • @OfficialSportySkitsPROD
    @OfficialSportySkitsPROD5 ай бұрын

    Thanks man this helps a lot! I’m a high school QB and I just got a scholarship to Rhode Island! I’m going to be there starting QB next year! This helps thanks! I’m Randizon Zoe by the way!

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    5 ай бұрын

    Awesome to hear man! Really glad the content has been able to help you

  • @GuitarBoyWill
    @GuitarBoyWill2 жыл бұрын

    most informational 47 seconds ever

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂appreciate you man

  • @joshmontague9567
    @joshmontague95672 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate all your helpful tips man. Keep up the good work! 👍

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you! Glad the content gives you some value

  • @K.E.U.
    @K.E.U.2 жыл бұрын

    I was about to say it’s all on the wrist but I e always had the natural spiral so I really didn’t know how to explain it

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wrist is definitely important

  • @johnromero6485

    @johnromero6485

    Жыл бұрын

    I definitely has to do with the wrist too, but you don’t want to manipulate your wrist! What I mean by this is, throughout your throwing motion, you want to keep your wrist locked in place! You don’t want to break at the wrist to try and get a spiral! Your wrist being unstable will actually make your throw worse!

  • @JAYJay-qd7ov
    @JAYJay-qd7ov2 жыл бұрын

    This was a Great lesson. More then you learn form most people in a days worth of coaching.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate that man! Glad this gave you some value

  • @0ni0nKn1ght
    @0ni0nKn1ght6 ай бұрын

    i have my ring finger on the first lace and my pinkie finger on the third lace and it has helped me throw better spirals

  • @shadowlp9790
    @shadowlp97907 ай бұрын

    Bro your on crack breath air bro still great Information love it keep it up

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    7 ай бұрын

    Appreciate you man. Aglabs.org pre workout actually

  • @smoky-rounders2940
    @smoky-rounders2940 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro, now I’m gonna be on top next season! 🏈🏆

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Yessir hope this helps

  • @smoky-rounders2940

    @smoky-rounders2940

    Жыл бұрын

    @@firstdowntraining you earned yourself a new subscriber!

  • @maa7332
    @maa73322 жыл бұрын

    This is how you shoot a basketball with the index in the middle of the ball.

  • @jaydentakungo

    @jaydentakungo

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s just one of the ways, it’s not like it’s the only way

  • @maa7332

    @maa7332

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jaydentakungo exactly; you can shoot it with your foot. I think the best way is meant.

  • @simplyNuzi

    @simplyNuzi

    Жыл бұрын

    Most popular and instinctive way so it's more noticeable to everyone

  • @PixelatedFN
    @PixelatedFN8 ай бұрын

    Needed this help thanks bro! Also.. any tips for a small football/nfl youtuber?

  • @meddle3558
    @meddle35582 жыл бұрын

    Hey coach, quick question: at what point in the arm's motion does the ball point right at the target? The ball starts off pointing behind me but im confused as to when I rotate the ball to face my reciever. thanks

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Would be just before the release after your hips have rotated through and your body is facing the target

  • @Kingabu22
    @Kingabu2211 ай бұрын

    Ima wide receiver but I told my QB this. Thanks bro

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    11 ай бұрын

    No problem man hope this helps him

  • @I-have-sticky-feet
    @I-have-sticky-feet Жыл бұрын

    I have a bad habit of wobble balls so this will really help

  • @Sebsy1
    @Sebsy19 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much I never knew how to shoot spirals and now I know thank you so much❤

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    9 ай бұрын

    No problem man glad this could help!

  • @CapricornsGhost
    @CapricornsGhost2 жыл бұрын

    Really good tips. Smart. Well done, bro.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you man! Glad it gave you some value

  • @nflarabia
    @nflarabia2 жыл бұрын

    Tha ball 🏈 is so big , or am I have something in my eyes 👀 ? 🤣🤣

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Subtle way of calling me short 😂

  • @parkertaylor2774
    @parkertaylor2774 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you bro this helps

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem man glad it could give you some value!

  • @SonnenLyfe
    @SonnenLyfe2 жыл бұрын

    this will help a lot in the backyard 🐐

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessir appreciate you! Glad this helps

  • @jonasandnoah578
    @jonasandnoah5786 ай бұрын

    I wish I could be a pro at football

  • @TheMccarthy327
    @TheMccarthy3272 жыл бұрын

    My boy geeked 😂

  • @stillholding4975
    @stillholding49752 жыл бұрын

    This guy is excellent 👌

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you man really appreciate you

  • @WesleyParksTTV
    @WesleyParksTTV2 жыл бұрын

    Brett Favre had his index finger literally on the top of the football lol

  • @LibertyGoblin
    @LibertyGoblin2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you coach

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man hope this helps!

  • @lethull
    @lethull2 жыл бұрын

    Knee drills and focus on snapping the wrist. Do it daily for months and your spiral will get tighter.

  • @CoachB7
    @CoachB7 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate you as a QB coach I try to teach my son but he doesn’t listen well when it’s from Dad so a few minutes of watching you he realizes what I show him is true and he is more inclined to listen lol

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    😂 you’d be surprised how many times I get that same message so I’m glad I could help! That’s why I have a job lol

  • @turbo6540
    @turbo65405 ай бұрын

    thanks man im a freshman and next year im gonna try playing football and i havent played before

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    5 ай бұрын

    No problem bro, hope this was able to help! I appreciate you watching

  • @stevenfarnesi9126
    @stevenfarnesi91262 жыл бұрын

    I could never explain this to someone

  • @BEANZ100
    @BEANZ1002 жыл бұрын

    Memorise : look at the flick of rist

  • @tropic1799
    @tropic17992 жыл бұрын

    I can throw a perfect spiral every time but I need to work on aim

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessir keep grinding ✅

  • @tropic1799

    @tropic1799

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m starting seventh grade football next year and I’m 5.7 so what position do you think will be good for me

  • @don_NFL

    @don_NFL

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tropic1799 are you fast or are you kinda fast and can catch decently while pushing through kids?

  • @tropic1799

    @tropic1799

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@don_NFL I’m fast i can easily get through kids but I do need to get better catching

  • @don_NFL

    @don_NFL

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tropic1799 hmm alr idk what you could be I mean maybe TE?

  • @KenIbenduova
    @KenIbenduova5 ай бұрын

    Sounds good... Where is the video of him throwing a football?

  • @thomasmartinez5874
    @thomasmartinez5874 Жыл бұрын

    Great coaching point..

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you man thank you very much

  • @derekross6649
    @derekross66494 ай бұрын

    Instant spiral. Dope

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    4 ай бұрын

    Yessir, thank you for watching! 🤝

  • @BullCraftMaxx
    @BullCraftMaxx9 ай бұрын

    Why does that football look so big lol

  • @yes-if6lb
    @yes-if6lb2 жыл бұрын

    I could throw a spiral but it would always be a spiral facing the sides of the ball this helped me throw a spiral from the tip of the ball

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessir glad this could help!

  • @Notharyour
    @Notharyour18 күн бұрын

    I really wanna know more about the nfl but I’m from Africa 🇳🇬

  • @sinedenosky
    @sinedenosky10 ай бұрын

    Think about your finishing move being like your hitting the woah

  • @shawnmcnickle3191
    @shawnmcnickle3191 Жыл бұрын

    Breathe bro 💀

  • @evanditto5980
    @evanditto59802 жыл бұрын

    Bruh idk how but no one taught me how to spiral and I self taught my self lmfao

  • @FragranceDecant
    @FragranceDecant Жыл бұрын

    I put my pinky on the 3rd lace middle finger on white line ring finger between and pointer finder near the point

  • @Shutupmuteurself
    @Shutupmuteurself8 ай бұрын

    Bro is 3 different skin tones 😂

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    8 ай бұрын

    This was from 3 years ago… it’s only gotten worse

  • @N.O.XpressFF
    @N.O.XpressFF Жыл бұрын

    Finally someone says something about the index finger being the last one to leave the ball

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Yessir hope this helps man!

  • @davidsalais9662
    @davidsalais9662 Жыл бұрын

    Always fire content ! Kudos coach G👀

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you David, thank you as always

  • @baperizerr8813
    @baperizerr88132 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much bro

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man hope this helps!

  • @janeldebord1
    @janeldebord1 Жыл бұрын

    Me looking at his shirt like I like this guy

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate you man!

  • @kadencragg1730
    @kadencragg17302 жыл бұрын

    Damn first throw

  • @zerodegre1881
    @zerodegre18812 жыл бұрын

    Thanks choch I am trying to a bedder qb and that helps. Thanks

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man hope it helps

  • @ScottReynolds003

    @ScottReynolds003

    2 жыл бұрын

    Try being a better speller too, lol

  • @Vettetographer
    @Vettetographer2 жыл бұрын

    Tyreek hill shirt on LMAO 🤣

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    ?

  • @Vettetographer

    @Vettetographer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firstdowntraining read the shirt it says ty hill 2021

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I coached a camp with him

  • @Vettetographer

    @Vettetographer

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firstdowntraining Ight that’s legit should’ve coached him more before the super bowel😂😔🤭

  • @raphael9783
    @raphael9783 Жыл бұрын

    I've never used laces and I throw 90% good spirals.

  • @user-ce1jd7ck8u
    @user-ce1jd7ck8uАй бұрын

    It works very good

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Ай бұрын

    Yessir glad this could help! Thank you for watching

  • @MactheHusky
    @MactheHusky7 ай бұрын

    Good advice

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    7 ай бұрын

    Appreciate you man, thank you for watching!

  • @twinpowerbebernitz3835
    @twinpowerbebernitz38352 жыл бұрын

    I get a bunch of compleints about my spiral

  • @tom_bradys_son3672
    @tom_bradys_son36722 жыл бұрын

    Nice tips. I throw a pretty good spiral 9/10 times. My biggest problem is throwing it far.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessir no doubt!

  • @lorenzojones-raston243
    @lorenzojones-raston2432 жыл бұрын

    Aye man, don’t be telling people how to throw like me

  • @Atlskater-gc4ql
    @Atlskater-gc4ql8 ай бұрын

    I throw with my thumb on the grip and my hand on the ball or with nothing on the grip and get perfect spirals

  • @zenseii_5135
    @zenseii_5135 Жыл бұрын

    Bro if only you could see how moving my index higher helped! Thanks

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    No problem man glad it did!

  • @lop5174
    @lop5174 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @gioflores96
    @gioflores96 Жыл бұрын

    Who the heck made this surfer dude king of throwing footballs

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    I actually appreciate the surfer comment- I’ve never once stood up on a surf board let alone rode a wave 😂

  • @gdeleon4711
    @gdeleon47112 жыл бұрын

    I gotta see you sliing that thing man

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go to my Instagram ad we post about it or checkout my most recent YT post

  • @goplaypc5059
    @goplaypc50592 жыл бұрын

    This man intakes so much air

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have to

  • @rosemelaguerre210
    @rosemelaguerre21020 күн бұрын

    That really help

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    19 күн бұрын

    Awesome to hear man, thank you for watching i appreciate it!

  • @chris7gabriel
    @chris7gabriel5 ай бұрын

    You got the voice of a rapper. Also not sure how i got here

  • @dugger0
    @dugger09 ай бұрын

    I'm not a QB but my kid's friends are going to think I was.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    9 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @mason_salt
    @mason_salt2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone is different. This is advice holds no water.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Let’s see your advice big fella 😂 easy to hate from the cheap seats

  • @jamesparham8908
    @jamesparham89082 жыл бұрын

    thank you bro i’m 15 and my hands are huge like 10 inches so moving my index finger worked

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yessir awesome to hear!

  • @fazespongebob3295
    @fazespongebob3295 Жыл бұрын

    For some reason my middle finger has always been my last finger to leave the ball

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly that was the same for me too- I don’t think it’s a huge issue as long as it spins

  • @SpeedyJK902
    @SpeedyJK9027 ай бұрын

    I keep slipping with the football at school

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    7 ай бұрын

    If you search up “first down training how to throw with sweaty hands” or “dry hands” we have some content there that can help you!

  • @SVNT0
    @SVNT010 ай бұрын

    *cries in european*

  • @aabahdjfisosososos
    @aabahdjfisosososos2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks bro

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    No problem man hope this can help

  • @Noah.Nation
    @Noah.Nation Жыл бұрын

    I have a question. Should my wrist pronate at the same time that my elbow reaches full extention, or should my wrist pronate just barely before that?

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes same time you reach extension

  • @heatherkeener7748
    @heatherkeener77488 ай бұрын

    You are smart

  • @yeetproductionsbah3809
    @yeetproductionsbah3809 Жыл бұрын

    My dad left for milk and never taught me

  • @king_ltc_
    @king_ltc_2 жыл бұрын

    Do you have any tips for people with smaller hands. I can't grip the ball hard enough to bring my elbow down. Especially if I have to run, I don't know how to build that strength with my hands.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Improve grip strength, that is the key. Grip strength is more important than hand size

  • @king_ltc_

    @king_ltc_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@firstdowntraining That's what I was wondering how to do?

  • @Ericsta7.2
    @Ericsta7.2 Жыл бұрын

    Bruh I just realized I have to flick it not push it to release it 🤦🏽

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope this could help!

  • @user-rv2oc1dw7x
    @user-rv2oc1dw7x10 ай бұрын

    Thanks some people thank im special

  • @_Your_Daddy
    @_Your_Daddy Жыл бұрын

    how do you save yt vids

  • @JaquaviousR3
    @JaquaviousR33 ай бұрын

    Question is it normal for the football to shift to a direction for example I throw right handed my ball shifts to the left slowly. Is that normal for throwing

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    3 ай бұрын

    So it can be from a few things- if you search up “first down training why the ball spins sideways” we have a few videos there that can help!

  • @GeneralA01
    @GeneralA012 жыл бұрын

    How big are you handspans? I wonder if it makes a difference.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    Grip strength is more important I’d say, plenty of guys with big hands who can’t spin it however it can definitely help and give you an advantage but if you don’t have big hands you can still spin the ball with a strong grip

  • @YourFellowRNRSisterFan98
    @YourFellowRNRSisterFan9810 ай бұрын

    So the rules haven’t changed since I was in middle school I was taught how to throw foot ball and baseball and play tennis and a bunch of sports the only sport I can’t play is soccer I never did learn that one? But I assume I can find a video here and I’ll subscribe here and on my posting channel. I use this one for commenting and watching and the other for everything .

  • @christiancarnley6667
    @christiancarnley66672 жыл бұрын

    im not a quarterback but i am a blocking back... u got any tips?? im also linebacker and some plays wr and im struggling on explosiveness and i want so help

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    This workout plan could help you below! www.firstdowntraining.com/product-page/28-day-speed-workout-plan

  • @Imdyingslowly
    @Imdyingslowly Жыл бұрын

    Thanks dad 🥲

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    Жыл бұрын

    Anytime son

  • @quentinbell5617
    @quentinbell56172 жыл бұрын

    We need a video that actually shows a ball being thrown.

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you scroll down (probably a long ways) we have a ton of videos on that. Gotta put in the work

  • @adamgardener8624
    @adamgardener86246 ай бұрын

    Let's see this miracle spiral you keep talking about

  • @watchmyback400
    @watchmyback4002 жыл бұрын

    Hey coach i got a question. So i’m a bball player rn and i’m above average like i play aau and all that. but i’ve been really wanting to play qb, i’m 6ft 160 ish and i’m 14. should i give it a try? if so, where should i start??? (i have a lot of football knowledge)

  • @firstdowntraining

    @firstdowntraining

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would say try out for a high school team and checkout a trainer you can work with. I’ll send something below that can help you get a grasp on the position and what to expect www.firstdowntraining.com/product-page/the-qb-bible

  • @eliajhh
    @eliajhh11 ай бұрын

    I’m young but I can throw a instant spiral

  • @sargepowell2113
    @sargepowell21132 жыл бұрын

    I just wanted to see him throw a spiral but.

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