The change was a response to the Colgan Air crash, in which both pilots had more hours than that anyway. The accident report suggested that neither pilot had any business being at the sharp end of an airliner. Raising the barrier to entry risks deterring people who would make competent pilots in favour of those who particularly want to be pilots.

@davidkavanagh189

20 күн бұрын

The change after Colgan air was done because of solely political pressure brought by the families. It was not a recommendation from the NTSB or FAA after the accident.

Quantity is not quality, requiring huge amounts of hour doesn't mean a person is apt to be a commercial pilot. There has been (and probably will be) many incidents where "experienced" pilots made dumb mistakes for lack of knowledge or experience in edge situations. All programs should focus on variety, training and testing and not just a logbook hours that you don't even know they were properly flown. Don't need to go too far to watch this effect: there have been many KZreadr-pilots accidents recently where the "pilot" was extremelly poor and for some magical reason had up to instructor licenses but didn't know the basics on flying.

In EU the graduates from academies associated with airlines can get into the airline cockpit with about 300 hours and a multi crew license. By the time they graduate they will have a type rating for the aircraft which is the same license a captain needs used by the airline. The process took about 18 to 24 months from zero flight time to job and about US$125,000.

The US requirement threw out the baby with the bathwater, in my opinion. It was a kneejerk reaction to a situation that developed. The European system is much more level-headed here.

@ViktorFromDK

20 күн бұрын

I would say that the hour req. and only allowing full ATPL makes US aviation more dangerous as it gives the pilots time to develop bad habits where the way done in Europe is better as it stops bad habits from starting to develop with a frozen ATPL and then at a certain hour mark they can get a ATPL which then allows the holder to become eg. a captain

@Anuj-1

20 күн бұрын

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I think it's a bit excessive in the USA. But then again, it's such that you could be flying for a couple of hours in Europe and have passed multiple countries and flying for an hour in the USA and not leave your state. So the demand for air travel is proportionally greater there. Maybe, in that sense, it should be more hours needed. But more than 5 times the EU and Chinese requirement still seems a bit excessive. Especially compared to China with the population of the countries in the region.

1500 hrs is very excessive. Much of that is not used to practice difficult situations and instead is just to gain hours. Not very effective

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What about international transfers? Are flight hours transferrable if one moved between countries mid-point, both during the initial hour accumulation and after the pilot is certified to fly commercially, or does one have to restart from zero?

I had about 150 of hours in real aircraft before starting flying the E195

So, let me get this right, in the US pilots that can't fly yet, CAN BE INSTRUCTORS ??? What kind of crazy is this?

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Min hours=Min experience. 90% of being a professional pilot is real world experience that can’t be taught in a structured school environment.

The US has the least effective path to airline flying. Too much time wasted on having to be flight instructors in light aircraft doing maneuvers instead of practicing real world transportation flying in complex aircraft. New pilots out of school can have a hard time going to charter or corporate because of insurance requirements.

I have to hire a pilot for my plane from 3 choices. One has 2000 hours flying banners at the beach. One has 1000 hours flight instructing. One has 200 hours single pilot flying all seasons night scheduled freight. I want the cargo pilot. Airlines also consider D I E (Diversity Inclusion Equity) or D E I ( Didn't Earn It) so their qualifications are different.

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