I have the same model with 220.000km and recently did Aviloo battery test and it says 91% capacity. SOH says 100%. This car is a beast.

@alexandrutudor9497

Жыл бұрын

wow, omg! That's awesome news. I have the same car, with 60k km. I was wondering how long the battery will last, was not expecting these great results!

@maurice7413

Жыл бұрын

I have the same car also, 88,000 miles (141,600km). My range still reads about 140 miles @ 100% and real world about 105. No real test of the actual SOH. But love the car and zero problems.

@yvs6663

Жыл бұрын

wow. thats great news. i mean it pretty much means it outlasted the last 2 cars my family owned in terms of mileage and is still perfectly usable, probably will be usable pass the 300 000km where even the good ICE models start to be uneconomical to repair. just goes to show that when done properly, even the smaller batteries can outlast internal combustion engines.

@matthewspry4217

Жыл бұрын

And this is a car with 28kwh imagine a car with 4x this capacity and how long it last

@Reddylion

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewspry4217 ya

Thank you for this. I have a 38kwh Ioniq Electric and it’s coming off lease, the residual/buyout is really cheap so I’m considering just buying it. Now I am confident that it will be a good car for many more years.

I have the same model with over 65k miles, with no perceived battery degradation. I love the car and it has made me a Hyundai fan

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Everyone does love their Ioniq. They're so much better than the looks would suggest!

@daveg1250

11 ай бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos I have an Ionic on lease which has to go back next year, I am thinking of buying a used one when the time comes as I like the car so much and the price of these when buying used has dropped significantly. I believe they have stopped production of the Ionic which might explain the drop in value

SOH only indicates the cells are well balanced. My SOH has already dropped to 98% after only partially charging it for weeks (my home charger has a charge limit). When that happens, I fully charge it to activate the balancing circuit, and the SOH goes back to 100%. The capacity seems to have dropped after 150kkm, using IoniqInfo, I seem to only be able to pull ±24kWh from the pack.

Very enjoyable video. Thanks for sharing. I picked up my 2018 Ioniq with 5k miles on the clock, 80k miles now and still getting the same range.

This is AWESOME. Thanks so much for sharing this. At this rate your car is good for another decade!

Thanks for sharing! We have the same model and it´s proving to be very good. Only issue has been a fault in the heatpump. After Tesla opened up the Supercharger network our car got so much easier to use for longer distance trips. Great cars.

Very in depth, loved the scan tool details, thanks.

Thanks Matt for making the time & effort bring us EV owners/users useful information.

I've just got a Mini Cooper SE which has similar battery capacity to the Ioniq so I found this information very interesting. Thanks for such a fascinating and informative presentation Matt.

I have this exact car in the US. It's very nice to have a channel that feels dedicated to this vehicle. It is very difficult to find any information about my 2019 Ioniq EV and you have made me trust my vehicle even more. Range may not be great but I love my car.

@Gregory-Masovutch

Жыл бұрын

Range is everything. Trade it in

@ashtinhill5664

Жыл бұрын

@@Gregory-Masovutch range is definitely important but tell these manufacturers to stop making $40k EVs and then regular people can afford a car with more range that doesn’t take hours to fast charge.

@nicholasbrown982

7 ай бұрын

How many miles do you get ?

My Ioniq 28 kwh has done 166.000 km since June 2018. Range at 100% is 240 km. Looks very good.

@acizko92

Жыл бұрын

no issue with engine or gear?

@reinelektrisch4997

Жыл бұрын

@@acizko92 not at all

We watch your videos all the time and can't wait for the next one. We have a 2019 and love it. Been Hyundai owners since 1989!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Fascinating. Many thanks!

What a refreshing change to find an honest EV review. Thank you.

@GoGreenAutos

3 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

Great vid. Thanx for the real world info... When I had the battery on my Bolt replaced (LG battery fiasco) last year, I was JUST over 100K miles and had no noticeable degradation. I'm sure there was some, physics and batteries being what they are, but nothing noticeable to me... Now have a new battery with a new 8 year 100K warranty.

Really interesting video! I love to learn about how evs are holding up in the longer run! I hooked up the first hyundai charging station in my city on Friday, looking forward to seeing ioniqs around town soon!

@abdalrahman5072

Жыл бұрын

Where any town

We have the exact same car with 90k miles on. Still performs as new.

@yowhaatsup

3 ай бұрын

im unsure about electric cars what do you service on electric cars?

@JohnLasseter-ct5in

2 ай бұрын

@@yowhaatsup barely anything

Love your video man!

Very informative Matt. Wall box and software updates are a pain.

Hi Matt. Very helpful to keep monitoring the same car. Too bad on the wallbox charging in this instance. When I measured the difference between wall to wall and actuals going in the car, it was at c10% at 7kW, so a bit more than the 5% you were mentioning. Both this and usable capacity estimates are on my page if you're interested to compare notes.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info!

Thanks for another great video Matt. All set for another 100,000 miles then!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

For someone else to do...I'm going to sell it as we've changed to an Ioniq 38kWh.

@davecorlett4849

Жыл бұрын

I have that model so will be watching your future posts with interest. A great car for long distance driving & not once has the slower charging speed held me up. I drive mid 60's on the mways giving more efficiency, eat while charging, arrive at destination sooner.

You have a very good channel👍 i drive a Ioniq 2019 regards from Sweden.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks and welcome

Would love to hear about your charging practices.

Thank you, after watching your video I bought one with 106000km...

Just bought a 2020 Ioniq Se and I really like it.

@GoGreenAutos

4 ай бұрын

They're great EVs.

Excellent videos,

We had a lift in a Tesla X Taxi last year in Miami. It had 120k miles (US miles admittedly which are only 0.8 of a UK mile !) And it's range was down to 297 from 300 miles when new according it's owner. Amazing really

@ignasanchezl

Жыл бұрын

Hey sorry but US and UK miles today are the same. You might be confused because the US and UK gallons are different which changes MPG values between the US and UK. 1 UK MPG is about 0.83 US MPG.

@waynesimpson2074

11 ай бұрын

@@ignasanchezl That might be the other way around i.e. 1 x US gallon is smaller as it's 0.83 of 1 x UK gallon.

@ignasanchezl

11 ай бұрын

@@waynesimpson2074 We are both giving the correct numbers. Double check your math.

@Ryan-ff2db

6 ай бұрын

Not sure about that. I've had a couple Tesla's and currently own a Model 3. The degradation is always somewhere around 10 percent after 100,000 miles and in the 12 to 13 percent range after 150,000, almost like clockwork. A Tesla only losing 3 miles after 120,000 miles would be unheard of. Also, I don't think there was a 300 miles range Tesla. They had a 315 miles range and 330 range battery, which is probably what that driver had.

Thank you for renewing your uploads! I BOUGHT A HYUNDAI IONIQ @@@@@ :D;D;D AND at this moment I am HAPPY!

Wowza! 100% SoH after 102K miles? That's remarkable! My current EV has 65,652 miles on the odometer, and its capacity is about 93.59%.

@Lewis_Standing

Жыл бұрын

Apart from the recalls of some Konas, Hyundai seem to have made very good decisions with their batteries. Very conservative with charge speeds and paying off with longevity. Wonder how the EGMP one's will fair.

@adrianguggisberg3656

Жыл бұрын

@@Lewis_Standing The 28kWh Ioniq isn't conservative in its charging speed. In fact, it's still got one of the fastest charging batteries of any EV to this day. And it will still charge fast when cold as ice too.

@stephenholland5930

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianguggisberg3656 Does your car have a battery heater?

@adrianguggisberg3656

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenholland5930 The 28kWh Ioniq? Yes, it turns on automatically if the temperature drops below -7C when driving or plugged in, and turns off at -3C. While driving, the battery is cooled/heated with the cabin air, which is pumped from an air intake under the rear seats through the battery and out through an exhaust under the right rear fender by means of a fan. The activ heater works in the same way, but it uses PTC elements inside the air intake of the battery to preheat the air. The battery charges just fine at a battery temperature near freezing. That's most likely due to large amounts of cobalt in the chemistry. This is probably the most robust an also one of the most expensive batteries of any EV.

@stephenholland5930

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianguggisberg3656 Thanks for the info. Great car, the classic Ioniq. Wish my Ioniq 5 had a PTC heater for the battery - it charges dog slow in freezing temperatures. Hyundai really dropped the ball not fitting them as standard.

This is an eye-opener for me. The battery degradation criticism is one that has registered with me, but it seems that, at least for EVs less than six or seven years old, it just isn't an issue.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

All manufacturers warranty their packs for 8 years now and to typically 75% or more. So of course, they have got to perform significantly better than that otherwise they'll be crippled with warranty claims. The reality is that the battery packs will typically last the life of the vehicle. Ok, the range will reduce slightly as the pack ages, but the vehicle will still be completely usable. But you wont be throwing it away after 4 years which is what many still believe.

@stevezodiac491

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is ! Read the warranties, you don't get a new battery only a promise to add a few percent capacity back to what they perceive as an acceptable loss, which for Nissan is 25% loss after 8 years. They can also withdraw that warranty at their discretion, without giving a reason. Read the damn thing !

@Hans-gb4mv

Жыл бұрын

It does depend on the owner of the car. If you only charge with a fast charger, you probably will see degradation after a few years, if you hammer it a lot on the highway, you will also risk more degradation. But if you treat it well, charge it slower, drive and accelerate a bit more sensible, the battery could last a decade or more.

Very well done video. And to think the US even has a prototype hybrid battle tank with a huge battery that can run on battery for sometime and with automation it’s 10 tones lighter. Also just demonstrated are other military transport vehicles and robotic ones. The tank can plug into an efficient turbine recharge base as well as other vehicles. This cuts down fuel use by 50%. There is some interesting tech in these vehicles and it appears South Korea may be getting it too in a 6 wheeled HIMARS type vehicle that is hybrid PHEV. That would be fun to convert to an overland motor coach minus the missile launchers.

Very helpful video. Thank you for informing my decision 🙏

@GoGreenAutos

3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful

Nice video, thanks

You can easily get the actual energy charged by noting the "accumulative charge power" (around 9:10 in the video) before the charge and after the charge. The difference is the energy that's been charged into the battery, i.e. after losses. Tools like EVNotify and OVMS also read these values, the OVMS can automatically create a long term charge log from these.

Love my ioniq5

Thanks Matt. I'd forgotten how efficient those early Hyundais are. Great to see some real-world data about a battery which has undergone around 630 full recharge/discharge cycles. At that rate, it should see at least another 3 or 4 years until it reaches 1,000 cycles. It will be interesting, therefore, to see how it performs after 150,000 miles or reaches 10 years of life. If you still own the car. 😉👍

@NeblogaiLT

6 ай бұрын

It has done the bandwidth of about 1k cycles: ~27000 kWh charged/discharged on a 28kWh battery (9:13). Also- great efficiency, as it did 102 thousand miles/160 thousand km, which means 3.77miles per kWh/5.9km per kWh.

Unfortunately, the MSM tends to quote Nissan Leaf battery losses rather than success stories like your Ionic because it boosts viewings/newspaper sales. Good video!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

True, plus a lot of exaggeration.

Great news, I'll be using that for any EV vs ICE debates I get into 😉⚡🔋

@Markcain268

Жыл бұрын

Lol, that figures🤣

You have the best thumbnails! Are some or all of these people you or anyone that you know? Thank you so much 😊

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Just royalty free clipart in Cava.com, the image software I use to make the thumbnails. I find if I add a person, it gets more views.

@mitchellbarnow1709

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos I think that by using beautiful people it really helps as well and I can attest to that working.

Thanks for this, I'm sceptical about EVs but I want to know the truth rather than confirming my assumption. After watching this I acknowledge that these batteries can last even more than the lifetime of an ICE engine.

Battery health monitoring has nothing to do with battery degradation. It's just like using a tyre pressure monitor to calculate tire wear.

it has 100% of the 28kwh...because the actual degradation is hidden behind the difference from the 30.5 A normal user will see an under 10% degradation, closer to 5%. So if we calculate 10% out of 30.5, it leads to 3kwh at most being lost, and that is within the hidden value of the battery on this vehicle. If you have like 5-7% loss, you will still have a reported 100% health

I have a MY2012 Vauxhall Ampera and I’ve mainly drove on electric power over the 5yrs I’ve had it and the usable 10.4KWH battery has never dropped. If ever I used the full battery it is always 10.3-10.4 KWH. Not bad for a 10yr old EREV. Lol

I follow your channel, and watch all your videos (I'm a big fan). In Hyundais mind, battery health has nothing to do with degradation. I agree with that. Battery health has to do with unbalanced cells... cells that are "off"... so, you have the same voltage on the top and bottom... so 100%. If you have a pack with one that's 3,98 instead of 4,12v... then the SOH is not 100% anymore... so, it's not a value of degradation on these cars. You actually found the way to calculate it on these cars in your walkthrough of the BMS. The key is the percentage and 'Accumulative charge power'. Make a note of those before and after you charge the car from. Then you can caluclate it. If you charged from BMS 1% to BMS 95%, then you've charged the pack 94%. 'Accumulative charge power' before and after, and you have how many kWh was put in it... and you can work you way from there. Oh, and the batterypack is no under the floor. It's under the rear seats and the trunk... where the fuel tank would normally be... in this car anyways. I have one, if it wasn't obvious.

@Lewis_Standing

Жыл бұрын

That's not degradation it's charging losses I think

@MartinPedersenTM

Жыл бұрын

@@Lewis_Standing If you look at that value and the one you get from the chargepoint, you can calculate the chargeloss...

Your point about warranties is interesting. A lot of people misunderstand what warranties really mean. Regarding the battery SOH, Hyundai are warranting what *won’t* occur after 5 years, not what will!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Actually, its 8 year warranty on the battery, as with most manufacturers. They typically warranty it to 75% of its original capacity.

A very interesting video proving the Hyundai battery packs longevity. I think this demonstrates that buying a used Hyundai Ioniq, with either the 28kW or the 38kW battery pack, would prove a good buy that would last for years. What you've proved is a great advert for Hyundai's battery technology. I wonder if they, as one of the first mainstream manufacturers to really embrace and develop EV's, would want to use this evidence when promoting their new EV's.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

The Ioniq 38kWh could potentially be even better as they have slower DC charging and the pack is water cooled, whereas its only air cooled on the 28kWh models. Not that that is a problem as its more than up to the job.

Nice, I have a Gen 1 Ioniq as well which is 4yrs old now and driven 60,000km so nice to know my battery is probably also 100% SoH even if some of the top & bottom buffer have been used to protect the net capacity. Nice in winter after I converted you have similar range to mine in winter in Tasmania. The 5% top buffer means you can regen even when at 100% unlike other EV's that cannot do that. Have you changed your tyres over the life of the car? What tyres do you current have on them are they EV specific or not?

Nice video! A shame that the charger did not record, but your diagnostic device did ;) You can see (barely) in the beginning of the video a "accumulative charge power" of 27164.2 kwh and after charging it shows 27192.5 kwh which is a delta of....... 28.3 kwh ! Well done Hyundai!

Subbed, bell hit and comment left:-)

@GoGreenAutos

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I still have the 2021 mg zs Done 48000 km. I can't exactly figure out the soh but so far I haven't noticed any loss in range.

Had a 28 ioniq. Loved it. Currently on 30 leaf but tge rate the GOM goes down is erratic. Are the batteries in the 38 ioniq as good as the 28 do you know as I’m quite interested in the extra range it offers.

Well done video, great news! Thank you! How often have you been charging the car to 100%?

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

6 out of 7 nights per week it gets charged to 100%. That's another myth that gets repeated far too often, that batteries shouldn't be charged to 100%. Correct on most Tesla's, but not on most of EVs. Just charge it and let the BMS do its job of managing the battery for you.

You need to use more OBD II scanners to check the figures. Doubt 100% can be correct. I recently read some HV battery warranties, and it appears they don’t necessarily replace the battery, but repair them to 70% SOH and not higher than 70%, which isn’t quite the warranty I thought. Enjoy your vids and an EV owner at 26,000 miles.

@karla6999

9 ай бұрын

Of course these cars batteries still don‘t have a SOH of 100%. Since they have a grosscapacity of ~31kWh in most cases degradation is still hidden in this buffer. Mine, a 2017 Model with ~83.000km on the clock still has the same range under comparable conditions as when I bought it 4 1/2 years ago with 10.000km Here on YT you find many reports about the Ioniq, many in German though.

Thank you for the video. It's really very informative. It also makes me a lot less anxious about battery degradation the fact you still have very good battery health after 6 years and 102,000 miles clocked. It is obvious as well that you take care of the battery and so, I am really interested to know what your usage and charging habits are like? And what are the habits that you feel might have contributed to the protection of your car's battery health? Big thank you for sharing.

@GoGreenAutos

Ай бұрын

No looking after needed. The car (BMS) does that for you. Just charged to 100% at home (or ~85% if DC charged) and used.

I would love to know how many times you fast charged your car.

I love videos about your Ioniq, it helped me make the decision to purchase my own 28kwh car! Have you had any issue with the 12V battery voltage dropping to ~12.2v regularly even with a new battery? When this happens I lose the regen and scheduled charge settings. Thanks

@kiae-nirodiariesencore4270

Жыл бұрын

A friend of mine here in France has a 2017 28kWh Ioniq, I have a 2019 Kia e-Niro. We both had the same problems with the 12v battery. The factory fit just wasn’t up to the job, the Ah rating was too low...this is a common problem with these cars and most people, me included have upgraded to a higher Ah battery. It never stopped us using the car though as I keep a battery booster on board to make sure of having 12v. EV’s don’t draw high current as there is no cranking to be done but they MUST have 12v to engage the relays to access the big battery on startup

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

We've never had any 12V battery issues with our 28kWh after 3 years of ownership. Occasionally the battery has got very low, when not used and we've never lost any settings. I have a feeling you don't even loose the schedule settings if you disconnect the 12V battery completely. But I'll have to test that to be absolutely sure. But I have disconnected the battery quite a few times and I'm sure only setup the scheduling the once.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling the app and emergency system on the newer cars (such as the Ioniq 38kWh, Kona etc) is the cause of the 12V drain issues on these, due to the telematics in the car. The Ioniq 28kWh has none.

This is still such a brilliant car and it is sad that Hyundai has discontinued this model. It has shown me that you don't need a big battery to get far, and that cars can be efficient. The winter is a bit moe difficult, but in the summer I have no issue getting this car under 10kWh/100km and have even gotten it below 8. I don't even mind taking it on longer trips. Yes, it takes a bit more time and some extra charges, but when you don't need the range on the average day, you're also not dragging that additional weight around. And in the summer, I've learned that the estimated range indicator is capped at 300km (when you have it in metric). Strange thing to drive over 20km and still see that GOM at 300km. Checked with other owners, and it does seem to be a software limitation. I'll be trading mine in in a few months for the spiritual successor, the Ioniq 6, which should be even more efficient. But wasn't easy to get hold of one with the smaller battery pack. I'll probably miss my Ioniq.

@diehard200

7 ай бұрын

How s the ioniq 6? I shoukd gdt my epiq version in 6 weeks

Another question, has the distance per charge stayed the same?

Nice video

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Accumulative operating time is interesting. works out to 7,216 hrs of operation. If you spread that over 6 years you've used 3.29hrs a day on average

Bought a 4 year old Tesla S85 in 2018, it had 120.000km it, drove another 60k km within a year, it had 6.5% degradation, so no problem. My 10 year old SmartED has 12% loss after nearly 120k km, due to the hard use and little battery. These cars had very old battery tech, modern ones are even better. Nissan made a big mistake on early Leafs not heating/cooling the battery, that caused 30% loss. Not the fault of the battery, simply the improper car design.

Hello , thanks for doing this informative videos. Want to ask what is the equipment you are using to check the battery, I would love to fo this test on my MG zs ev long range .. please let me know about the equipment. Regards.

In USA, 8 yr/ 100,000 mile warranties are pretty standard and have been since 2015. The differences are typically in what SOH is specified. E-Golf has 8 yr /100k against 70% net capacity.

What scanner and software are you using. I tried some different odb2 scanners and none of them seem to work

I'm in Canada, 6c is not cold!

​@GoGreenAutos what is the OBD used in video? Like to buy that one😊

Great video Matt shame about the Wallbox. We've got a Wallbox, well we've had two as the first one packed up after 6 months. Getting a replacement was problematic dealing with them in Spain. Hope mine's still at 100% at 100k miles, still got a long way to go which is fortunate. Still getting great m/kwh even in this lovely weather. I'm beating the wife's Zoe even with her 14kwh advantage.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Shame. I have two Wallbox Pulsar Plus units and they've been great...apart from not recording the power consumption sometimes.

@GregAnslow

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos We must have been unlucky. New one has been faultless, its up to date and recording energy usage. Most annoying thing is it now checks with the government before deciding to let me use the electricity that I'm paying for.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

@@GregAnslow Its not the government though, its your electricity supplier??

@GregAnslow

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Its government legislation behind it as all new chargers sold have to be smart and therefore remotely controllable. It's ridiculous because I just press the skip delay button. Sure I'm going on the naughty list for that.

@Lewis_Standing

Жыл бұрын

@@GregAnslow don't you have a smart meter/ time of use tarrif? I pay 1/4th the day rate on octopus Go... I thought everyone with an EV would have cottoned on to time of use tariffs

What a car! Why did Hyundai stop producing such a great car! Not enough profit?

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Yes it was a shame they've stopped making this, as even the 38kWh model still has its place in the market now. Due to being so efficient, it does more miles than many 50kWh models from other manufacturers.

@stephenholland5930

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame they couldn't have produced a 64 kWh version. I would have bought one instead of my 58 kWh Ioniq 5.

Very interesting video, thanks. If I went to a Hyundai dealer to buy a second hand Ioniq, would they be able to do and show me the battery health with one of those diagnostics before I buy the car? Ps I have a two year old 38kWh Ioniq on lease, which has done 11000 miles, currently 5.1 miles/kWh ave, range when fully charged 192 miles, down from 228 miles in the summer, which was about the same as this time last year. Love the car.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

No, its almost impossible to get the battery health from main dealers. Sales staff don't understand. They will say it needs booking into the workshop and they'll want a ~£180 diagnostic fee. At the end of the day, the batteries are nothing to worry about on a Hyundai and most other EVs too.

Non biased reviews need to be done by public. Not by people with a vested interest in seeking these vehicles.

He is not wrong. The capacity only 20kwh now and can use 100% but the range is automatically reduce 😅

My Tesla battery has a 10 year warranty. It is 6 years old and still 100% Not unusual for modern packs with thermal management.

BTW the Ioniq is amazingly efficient! I dream of those levels on m/kWh. 😅

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Yes they are and its a shame they haven't continued this efficiency with the later models, even the Ioniq 6.

102k miles. I wonder how many cam belts, oil changes, injector cleans, intake valve cleans, exhaust system issues, aux belts, water pumps, spark plugs, oil leaks, brake pads, brake discs, clutches etc. this represents for an old fashioned ICE car?

👍👍👍

So the real full range of this vehicle after 100k mi is 130mi/210km in cold season and 160mi/260km in warm seasons vs the stated 218km? Pretty darn good!! Charging losses are substantially higher than 5%, btw... My wifes i3 has a whopping 20..25% loss in the charger alone.

Be interesting to know if it has the same power on a rolling road as the battery degrades the voltage will sag under acceleration

@ursodermatt8809

Жыл бұрын

what has that got to do with the price of eggs?

Fantastic battery performance, I would like to know your charging habits. For instance what percentage of charging has been done using fast chargers? Also do you usually only charge to 80%. Very interesting, thank you.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

We've owned it for the last 3 years and during that time, very few rapid charges, but charged to 100% on AC every night.

@markglanville6495

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Thank you very much, I was worried about a constant 100% charge on a non Lithium Iron Phosphate battery. You have answered my question, much appreciated.

why did Hyundai stop making this Ionic model? I like this shape better than the 5. Sorry if that's just me. But I like it since it looks like a more 'normal' car.

A lot of taxi drivers in Edinburgh use these,if you car is your living, I guess they are good cars.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Yes very much favoured by taxi drivers, mostly in hybrid form. Obviously Hyundai went after the Toyota Prius market when they designed this car.

Thanks. It sounds unbelievable. But I suppose you have proved it to be true. What do Hyundai know about batteries that Tesla and others don’t? Just active cooling?

I think you live in the northern hemisphere where the ambient temperature is relatively conducive for lithium based battery to perform optimally for that period of time.. I wonder if the same lifespan can be achieved in the warmer climate region where the ambient temperature is 40C on a good day, sometimes reaching 43C on a bad day..

Is the miles per kwh with heating off ? Does the car have a heat pump ? Range in winter ????

I was wondering what device you use to extract the battery data? My son has a leased Kia Soul 30kWh, now in its fith year, and in winter it still has a 100 plus mile range. Day to day he has always kept the battery at a mid level state of charge. I have just taken ownership of an MG4 standard range with 50 kWh battery and its winter range seems to be similar to your Ioniq at around 130 miles, it has no heat pump. I do expect it to be a lot better in the summer. But perhaps I should have bought an Ioniq mk1 having test driven one a few years and been very impressed. It of course has the reliability that I don't expect to see in the MG.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

I'm using an £800 Autel diagnostic scanner.

@peteroffpist1621

Жыл бұрын

no problem with Tesla they just reduced the charging speed by almost 50% but still over 50kw charge rate so 60 minutes instead of 30 minutes charging time.

@johndoyle4723

Жыл бұрын

@@peteroffpist1621 Surely that is a problem, one of the main selling points these days is the charging speed, 50 Kw is poor these days. Mine can take over 200 Kw, it was one of the main reasons I bought it.

@peteroffpist1621

Жыл бұрын

@@johndoyle4723 no problem at all in our case. We have 4 Teslas 3 old with free supercharging and one new with fast charging but we have to pay for charging. We just have to decide who need to go far and fast.

I think those battery life myths only came about because of the early Californian Leafs getting all hot and bothered - and back then of course, the batteries really were a fortune to replace/renew etc. And, of course, bad happenings really stick in the mind of people foe a long time! Thankfully, people and especially dealers still like to value cars by distance travelled. Early 28kwh cars are coming back down in price again - after the madness! There's one on Auto Trader for c. £15k at I think about 80k miles, I would probably be interested if it wasn't for the poor old UK public charging betwork or the fact the 'classic' Ioniq cannot pre-condition the interior on battery alone!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

You're right about early EVs in California.

What battery chemistry is it in this ioniq?

have you changed the coolant for the inverter/motor as due at 100k, if not it would make a good video as mine is due as well 😜

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Good idea. I will do this.

PRIUS BATTERIES HAVE LASTED 10 YEARS OR MORE IN GENERAL, AND WHEN THEY GET DOWN TO 75 PERCENT THEY AINT GOOD ENOUGH TO POWER THE CAR BUT DONT THROW THEM AWAY THEY ARE STILL POWERFUL ENOUGH TO USE AS A HOUSE BATTERY

Matt I would like to say I love your Channel. I have an Ioniq 38 kw and love the car so much. Although it's a shame it does not charge as well as the 28 kw. In my opinion the lower views your getting is probably just because the EV world is moving so fast with 800 v architecture and advances in what's available people are maybe not as interested in Ioniq's except people like myself that have one as well as these fantastic Ioniq videos maybe consider getting hold of some of the new cars and reviewing them? Just a thought please don't take that negatively as it's just an observation. Otherwise keep them coming.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Yes you're right. If I did videos on the Kia EV6, Tesla Model Y, Hyundai Ioniq 6 etc, then the views will be up there. But I don't deal with EVs of that sort of value. As it is, the channel is going backwards and getting lost in the KZread algorithm.

not mention it's an old tech battery! that's impressive!

Very interesting, thanks. There is so much rubbish spouted by EV haters, so good to set the record straight. It won't stop the rubbish comments that infect all social media. The makers would not give 7 year warranties unless they were very confident of their product. Those efficiency figures are very impressive, I drive a large EV, 300 mile range, and average 3.5 miles/Kwh, but the longer range you want means hauling a heavier battery and lower efficiency. A 150 mile range car would suit many drivers.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, 150 mile range suits about 95% of the drivers, who can charge from home. The average we do in the UK is about 20-30 miles a day.

@Markcain268

Жыл бұрын

It's not the EVs that they hate, it's the smug drivers lol

one guy that works for a dealership and bought an EV. He had viewer questions the baffled his mind. They were asking things that can also apply to a ICE vehicle. The everyday vehicle battery has a general lifespan of about 5 years give or take. So why so many are concerned over the lifespan of an EV battery but not of a the everyday car one is odd? Plus there are many other mechanical things a vehicle has that again the everyday user doesn't ask about.

This specific car is a beast in terms of efficiency and battery management, especially for a older EV, its a shame that the leaf, soul and other old EV's are much worse

@insevanhouts

Жыл бұрын

My average consumption over the last 35.000km is only 120wh/km. My driving isn't overly efficient either, and I hammer it quite a lot at lower speeds. Highway speeds are limited to 100km/h here.

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I wonder how the charge speeds effect the long term health of the batteries on EV’s.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't. Well, not enough to be measurable. Many will say it does, but I've seen many hundreds of used EVs now. On average, most EV packs loose about 1% a year, except Nissans which are about 3% typically.

Octopus Go - cant you look at the smart meter data?

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Yes you're right, but we shift a lot to the cheap rate period. Two EVs, washing machine and dishwasher are all programmed to go on only during the 4 hour window.

Can you do this test on the ioniq 38kwh

@GoGreenAutos

9 ай бұрын

Yes, it has the same ECUs. I will do a video.

@e.3-0_m3

9 ай бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos good thanks cause there old enough now that we be start to look at these now for second hand market

Couple if questions. How much does it cost to charge at home overnight in electric, How would you go on using public chargers if you had a trailer in tow as all seem to be on single charge bays. ? Cheers

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

For the true running costs of this car, see kzread.info/dash/bejne/m5Zhx7hmhcTaZrA.html Home charging depends on your energy costs and how many miles a day you do. Using public rapid chargers is awkward. In the majority of cases, you would have to detach it and leave the trailer in a bay and then charge the car. It also depends on where the charge port is located on the car. If on the front, then that would be easier in some cases and you'll be able to leave the trailer on.

At 09:10 your device shows figures in kWh. They are energy units, not power. I am wondering if these numbers could be informative regarding your actual capacity. Accumulative charging and discharging, I am wondering if the ratio of these two is indicative of either losses during charge, or actual battery capacity. Discharge/Charge from your figures gives 0.967, that’s 3.3%. Regardless, one way to calculate actual residual battery capacity is simply to extrapolate DC charging data (usually low losses) to 100%. On my Ioniq, with 100% SOH, the actual capacity is around 96%. Which is still pretty good after 4 years and over 60000 miles.