This is where the Edison Motors the company is built. Anyone can slap together and fab a one off truck. It’s business relationships and suppliers that get the company made. You never see this part of how a company is built. This is also why you see those fancy startups fail, they are all about investor money, not scalable production. Going to love seeing all the kits options coming out of Edison.

@theunemployedtrucker

7 ай бұрын

No not anyone can slap together and make a truck that makes this much sense to the industry until it can make a viable truck that no longer needs a diesel engine.

@edwardrook8146

5 ай бұрын

Well, not just everyone can slap together a truck... 97 percent of people could not build what these men have.

@sarge1077

4 ай бұрын

This is awesome not many ev trucks that can go upto 500 miles plus the charge time is insane you save money on charging than paying at the pump at the cost of fuel times

Not to mention how much easier it is to replace the hoses. A hydraulic hose has burst and you don't have to roughly estimate how long it is, just look for the tag and the mechanic will arrive with the right hose and the right fittings

@Celciusify

7 ай бұрын

And those replacement hoses tend to grow over time as you add a few cm to the old hose "just in case". And finding the right fitting can take ages if you're not experienced.

@PaulSchaffert

7 ай бұрын

And if the kit hose is not in stock, using standard fittings will let a shop fab up a replacement hose that will work without issues. Wont be as quick as stock but it will get you back on the road.

@daverussell9627

7 ай бұрын

Having a OEM hose list for each build will make your end user VERY happy! Have the hose number stamped at each end. Then they can CALL in the spec to their hose shop and send someone to pick it up. Hoses have been the bane of my existence with the Kaiser excavator.

@wirefeed3419

6 ай бұрын

Down time is a killer in business and production having Specific marking and identification makes it very easy to manage inventory and also identify if a certain hose is failing more frequently and look at possible reason why and make adjustments to the build.

Love seeing a manufacturer that actually cares about its products! They are not a huge production company and hopefully as they grow they keep the same standards for production!

@Premier-Media-Group

7 ай бұрын

I hope that's part of why Chace is highlighting these companies early on - to keep em honest...

I’m waiting for the mini Topsy kit. I’d really like the Dumbo kit.

@PurpleNovember

7 ай бұрын

@@codyfrisch4378 Exactly!

@JV-pu8kx

7 ай бұрын

​@@codyfrisch4378 Wings!

@bradhaines3142

7 ай бұрын

Edison plane incoming?

This is how most vehicle manufacturers do the parts. But choosing the top of the line suppliers is the key. Congratulations !!!

I am so happy about Edison motors finally bringing a sane application for the electric hybrid vehicle technology! These guys are really great and are doing such an important thing. Look at their attitude and humility. I pray they will keep this company private.

As a parts guy, please make part number supersessions easy to deal with. Dont change the whole ass number every time, just add a letter at the end for your new version. Save the parts guys a huge headache

@cameronwebster6866

7 ай бұрын

And perhaps add a * or something if there may be an inter-revision compatibility issue.

@kylelaw7210

7 ай бұрын

You definitely need to put some thought into how you come up with part numbers and how you revise them. Also it would save a bunch of headaches if on your website you had a data based that told costumers what charged when the part number rolled. Ie. Part A is the same as part B except length of hose was increased by 3cm.

@Nate-bc1el

7 ай бұрын

if interchangeable, making the last number -00, to -01 ect is amazing... JS... NGK/yamaha both use this... for 1 reason or another, and knowing why/ how by an easy rule of thumb helps the techs tremendously

Buying full kits will save money not cost money. Predrilled frame rails would also pay for itself. I remember a story from a class I had. Henry Ford would also sub out parts. I guess at some point he required shipping boxed made to a spec, and the supplier just figured he was nuts. In fact they were cutting out and making the wood flooring with all the holes needed.

@WatanabeNoTsuna.

7 ай бұрын

What?! He tricked a supplier of another part into making them the floor pan of the car?! That's genius! 😂

@henryl3617

7 ай бұрын

​@@WatanabeNoTsuna.Yes, he did. I heard about it last month.

@lightningdemolition1964

7 ай бұрын

​@@WatanabeNoTsuna.he didn't trick them into it. It was known that is what the boxes were used for and why the specs were important. If it cost more to build the box the price would be built into shipping. If Henry had to pay a little more for each shipment it was probably cheaper than buying and cutting all his own wood

As a mechanical engineer I enjoy watching you guys dive down the rabbit hole of streamlining manifactioring . You probably know this but large factories outsource a lot of components not just parts, but kits like you see here. The are companies that make the wirring harnesses, part assemblies, etc. for almost every kind of manifacturer

Omniflex seems awesome, great connection, lets go Canada!!!

Im truly honored to watch this company grow.

Never thought Id be mesmerized by hose production

At time 11 minutes 30 seconds. The cost of the hose kit pre-built is going to be more than your labor in the shop. But what you're saving is time and certainty those hoses are made to ISO specification their pressure tested they're correct each and every time consistency. You're buying aspirin for a headache. You're buying simplicity you're buying accountability. The added cost of buying a kit of hoses is just like your analogy buying braided hoses instead of PVC hoses.

Mate it’s amazing to watch the morph from a few mates building a Idea to how do we make and produce them - and the amount of education stuff your managing to show - we are all learning every day - It’s inspiring for sure. 👍

Great to see all that Danfoss hoses on there! Have been following the project since the start. So cool to see it all come together.

Yesss! Congrats on this big step forward! I love your focus on quality and you making sure to have a good supply of parts to accelerate your job is just awesome! Godspeed!

The enthusiasm, pride and workmanship this video exudes really makes me smile and look forward to seeing it all come to be in the future! Bravo and greetings from Germany.

this 100% quality over quantity, and scale as needed, for everything. this is why old stuff is still lasting

so stoked to see edison getting ready for business

I think it’s awesome you guys are showing all the lead up to production. A couple things you guys may want to look into for down the road is. Galvanized frames and an option for a stainless steel cab for municipal chassis. Salt does a number on the plow trucks. These are kind of nice options to have in your back pocket for when specing a truck

@markbremmer8642

7 ай бұрын

Galvanized frames for the salt belt is a great idea. Not sure what the cost would be to do a frame for a semi, or a vehicle of any kind.

@ABetterLifeInc

7 ай бұрын

⁠ you could call it the stainless galvanized special. SS cab and galvanized frame. This would probably be a little cheaper than going 100% stainless steel as well.

@jscott6058

7 ай бұрын

@@markbremmer8642 I don’t think the cost is really that more for what you’re getting for it. When you Compare it to a paint

@bradhaines3142

7 ай бұрын

​@@jscott6058i know galvanized is cheaper than stainless, and depending on the grade stainless could be 3x more in materials

Flashbacks to when I built and tested hosed for anything that needed a hose on board a ship or sub when i was in the US Navy. Love what you are doing and following your journey!

Small steps add up. The tags on all the lines and hoses is pretty damn genius. Hyundi does that with their hydraulic lines, there is no guessing on getting the hose changed, just a part number. Its cool to see a little more progress.

Chase your team needs to visit some actually production facilities, from various industries, including Automotive. It will help you vizualize how things are done, and what way you'd like to set up your facility. No only hoses are premade, but wiring harness, insulation, metal cab fabrication, your headache rack. You won't need Mechanics for actual assembly once you get to a certain point, just trained people and procedures to follow.

@EdisonMotors

7 ай бұрын

I have visited one truck manufacturer, but we couldn’t film anything. Automotive manufacturing is so far ahead of custom vocational trucks in terms of production

@Nate-bc1el

7 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors production is what made ford/ set the manufacturing bar/ assembly lines... several of those originals are still kicking... quality made as perfect as possible, but averaged by standards, and keeping it simple is what makes a product last the test of time...

@morosis82

7 ай бұрын

The volumes are a bit different, they'd be best looking at someone who does similar volumes to what they're looking at. The bigger manufacturers will be way more automated and use equipment that makes sense at scale but is too expensive for a small manufacturer.

@netvapor1169

7 ай бұрын

@@EdisonMotors yea, they are real sticklers due to competition. I did like the trailer manufacturer you visited. They have a lot of good processes and setup.

@attesih

5 ай бұрын

One good place would be Sweden Volvo/Scania are most powerful and advanced trucks in wolrd.

This is awesome. I wish more manufacturers took the time to plan out their products before mass production. If you keep this up you'll be the leader in trucking industry. Especially if you can have these hose kits available for repairs down the road.

Dang, I'm super close to Cambridge, if I knew this was going on, I would have tried to come by haha.

Dedication to excellent quality from the guys at OmniFlex👍👌😉🇮🇲

Another benefit of not having to do your hose kits in-house is not having to stock all of the hoses, fittings, wrap and whatever else is required. Keeping stock of parts is expensive and managing it can be difficult. I used to design wire harnesses, which is basically this, but for wires. There is no question, this is cheaper, higher more consistent quality and more reliable service, given the right partner of course.

Very cool. Deligating production of components is definitely the way to go.

Thanks for bringing us along on your supplier build. 🙂

Honestly blown away by OmniFlex. Those hoses skoocum!

I'VE NEVER SEEN A TRAILER LIKE THIS!!

I'm just blown away at how quick chase and his team managed to build and bring a seriously strong very strong alternative solution to the trucking industry, i honesty believe that Topsy will sell so many trucks they won't be able to keep up with demand 🎉🎉🎉🎉

I was a block away from this shindig. Had no idea. Definitely would have swung by.

Love that you guys show exactly how you plan to scale production! Truly I think you guys will be up there with the big names in no time with this kind of production planning!

what a company.very impressive

Badass. Great quality company

The cab design is definitely driver oriented with the center drivers seat...

@archangel729

7 ай бұрын

Not so good for teams though , but love the look of it , next prototype needs to have a sleeper and a good sized one not a coffin sleeper lol .

@archangel729

7 ай бұрын

@@codyfrisch4378 thats why i said the next protype or the next model you always need to look to the future and there are a lot of over the road trucks out there also the retrofit of their tech to an over the road would be awesome that way they dont have to do the manufacturing of them ,win win

@jonasstahl9826

7 ай бұрын

​@@archangel729Will not happends, Diesel-Electric Trucks are not sutable for long distance onroad transportation.

@archangel729

7 ай бұрын

@@jonasstahl9826 hybrids are sustainable and the best suited for long haul as the engine charges the batteries then off it goes less fuel consumption ..

@archangel729

7 ай бұрын

@@jonasstahl9826 not a big fan of all electric as the distance is poor and not enough charging stations available at the rest stops due to no electric trucks are available all in test mode . Hybrids can be the first guy on the block as a full production heavy truck .

Let's get on the go boys!

Nixie tubes in the dash would look amazing for this truck.

Vim pelo canal PRESS TENSÃO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love how you do stuff

If I ever hit the lottery, even though I have absolutely no use for it, I am going to buy an Edison truck. And then I am going to hit up every one of those "hybrid vehicles only" and "green vehicle" parking spaces....

Having farmed out that company to pre make your hoses. Be it low pressure or high pressure. Yes it’s a bit of an extra expense. But that takes a lode of you. And frees up time for building your trucks. Knowing the hoses and made correctly

Absolutely amazing work! Even the "small" details are awesome!

I don't speak Canadian but I see a great company.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the irony that edison motors is building more like Nikola Tesla and Tesla Motors is more like how Thomas Edison worked is not lost on me

Absolutely need businesses that are specially made for stuff like this, where it isn't taking time out of you or your employees day allowing them to do other tasks at hand that cannot be outsourced. Plus you know the quality is going to be there when you have someone who has been doing it for years on years and has a well thought out work procedure.

this is an awesome company ,, i love this kind of quality control

Exciting stuff! Very cool video

Topse still in Cambridge, truck is always getting closer and closer to me

also, a great system so the owner/operator can do a full service fast, amazing stuff

Chase, the trailer factory spawned an idea: electric drive axles on the trailer for more traction. Like a logging truck setup with matching trailer for traction and braking on every axle (computer controlled smooth braking is another benefit of electric).

@SillyPutty3700

7 ай бұрын

There is a new camper trailer doing that. they are supposed to be on the market next year.

@WatanabeNoTsuna.

7 ай бұрын

They mentioned that before. Good idea though! 👍

Looking forward to seeing the first lot of trucks sold. Go for gold.

You are getting there! Using tape measures on your axle installation made me scratch my head, but now that you have your first prototype built, I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN YOU! 😊

She had me at free beer😂

This is an impressively run company.

That hoser knows his stuff, eh?

@-LightningRod-

7 ай бұрын

heheheh,...i see what you did there,...

at least the hose blowing off at 20:35 was an air hose not a hydraulic line! Lot easier to clean up an air spill

I am so proud to be a Canadian. Thank you for that. Your logic is the same as the way I think. Fight the obsolescence always. I wish my company would jump on board. I work for Kriska in Prescott Ontario. They love to be on the leading edge of technology. FYI. The fact that you are so focused on heavy duty should work for any trucking company in the future.

"All the way up to 6 inch" *mimes 6"* "That's a big ass hose!" 😂

Another great video, keep it up!

AWESOME!

17:30 The look of a person wondering if there was anything in the hose lines when done manually.

@BurnabyAlex

7 ай бұрын

Also, if you are relocating out East, you may find the Frasers Directory good for finding vendors in case you need to guarantee you have at least 2 options for getting parts from a vendor.

Have you considered conversion kits for class a motor homes and food trucks could be a strong side hustle 🤔

@capnkirk5528

7 ай бұрын

Edison has so much going on they don't have time for a side hustle (yet)! I strongly encourage Chace to start building on their success now. A program to build another Carl would make a lot of sense.

@dposcuro

7 ай бұрын

Likely doable with either future pickup truck equipment, or if they get into it, the medium duty vocational trucks. First though, they need to be a functional business, with you know...sales, and income, and products being shipped, and, dare I say it? Profits?!

Canada’s geography and the cost of logistics will likely decide the location of a manufacturing plant. Merritt BC would be a challenge compared to anywhere in the southern ON region.

@ianmclean8980

7 ай бұрын

I think they will try to keep it in BC

That's beautiful

@Edison Motors Chase, I wish I lived in Canada, i'm currently in Indiana. I work for Caterpillar's Diesel Electric Locomotive division as a Product and Manufacturing Engineer. I deal with everything that you are working on getting figured out early on, every single day. There is something good companies and scalable manufacturing relies on, STANDARDIZATION, STANDARDIZATION, STANDARDIZATION. If you can make appropriate and easily followed Bill-of-Materials, and standardized part numbers (bonus points if it is serialized and trackable through production), you will succeed and SAVE MONEY doing it. I would love to work for a great and ambitious startup like Edison Motors as a product and manufacturing engineer, because everything I have seen from your videos screams that you are not only interested in, but wanting to implement Lean Six Sigma (6S) manufacturing. If I am ever in a position to work in the PNW, I would be applying for a job with Edison. I hope that if/when that happens, Edison Motors is giving the current heavy duty industry a run for its money.

I just love that the two ladies have f****** rancid and and tool shirts on

We have a full hydraulic set up at our shop. The crimper and fittings and a rack with hydraulic and dot airline. We use a metal chop saw. Im surprised they haven't investrd in that set up

@dposcuro

7 ай бұрын

I'm not. They converted one truck, and made one truck. Now they are getting ready to build five(?) for testing, before going into production. From the amount of interest their product has garnered, they are looking at trying to quickly ramp up to fairly serious production. 10-30 trucks a month, as Chase said. Which makes more sense? Investing in a proper crimper, inventory of fittings, inventory of hose, and either finding 1-2 people who know how to make the hose right, or training a couple people.... Or going to a company that has a reputation for quality, already has all of the tools, the knowledge, the equipment, and the inventory, and getting your hoses done right? Edison is, as far as I can tell, trying to break open a market that currently isn't being served very well by the primary manufacturers. If they get their foot in, they could easily become the Primary Manufacturer for that market, but that's also where they stand to throw every advantage they have, away. If they send out trucks with improperly made hoses, or wiring, or in other ways have repeated reliability issues? That leaves the door wide open for Kenworth or some other company to swing in with a knockoff design, but sell based entirely on "Brand Recognition" and "Trust."

@Nate-bc1el

7 ай бұрын

great for a repair shop, they'll eventually need to do so for warranty, but first couple out... and wanting to make more quickly?..... this would be the best route imo

Omniflex has their shit together.

Hose company has it together nice stuff

You need to come to the Milon Keynes area - we have all but 2 F1 teams based here and add to that we have a lot more other race teams based here as well - so working as a delivery driver when on vacation when I was home from university I could go for days and days just dropping off/picking up parts and assemblies from companies like this one for all type of cars.

is there anyway i can buy stock in your company ......please lol

Looks sinister! Like something out of a Stephen King movie. I love it!

Maybe it's because I'm from Michigan and there's a ton of OEM parts manufacturers littered about that supply all the big auto companies with all of their components, but it almost surprised me to see Chase not knowing how/ where other manufacturers get their own supplies of parts. He builds an entire high tech, top of the line truck in a year, but didn't know about general manufacturing/ parts supplies/ OEMs. I'd imagine seeing/ going through this process with OmniFlex so thoroughly has got his wheels spinning for how he can reduce labor cost and manufacturing time of each truck. He'll have a whole assembly line set up in no time

@bradhaines3142

7 ай бұрын

one off custom is an entirely different ballgame than mass production parts. makes senese to me that he knows one more than the other.

Now, the question is: will owners of Edison trucks be able to buy those same hoses directly from Omniflex?

Very cool

My factory has just started trying purchased hose kits. It's brutal. Every length must be flawless and the fitting install angle must be flawless.

Nice truck

Seems like a lot now but I think in the not too distant future you will have multiple assembly lines building these trucks.

I think a COE side load trash truck chassis would be an awesome concept. It'd have a lot of duty cycle though.

I think just knowing the hose is clean is worth it. Don't want shit to contaminate the system. Hope you mount all your filters in easy to access places. I'm very excited for you. Hopefully someday I'll see your truck driving around california

16:40 I laughed Chase's face when the guy he was with said "we go all the way up to 6 inch". He drew the diameter out with his hand and replied "that's a big-a$$ hose". I'm sure there's a joke to be had in there somewhere.

Hopefully Omniflex, once you guys get up and running do a short video of making a set of hoses for ya.

Free beer??? Count me in

Are you going to find someone to do your wiring harnesses which can help your production to start after you get more and more experienced you can always bring it inhouse .

@scots_knight4706

7 ай бұрын

I think they do already, I'm sure that was mentioned when they went to the Fully Charged truck show. I think it's their partner Flodraulic at least I'm sure that was in the video commentary from Fully Charged.

@archangel729

7 ай бұрын

@@scots_knight4706 ok mabe i misunderstood i just thought they were doing the hoses for the electrics land hydrolics ect .

@marsrover001

7 ай бұрын

​@@scots_knight4706I think flowdraulic just does the headache rack, the cab and chassis wiring was done in house and looked like it took a while

Im a welder and i would love one of these in a flat bed that would be awesome as a rig

Ya hoser eh. XLNT 😎👍

When I toured Boeing years ago assemblies came from many different areas including Winnipeg.

We need to see you driving topsy. Howard Hughes test flew all his plane with or without permission 😂😂😂

I wish they made super duty’s like this

I think you guys need to hire a actual production manager that just knows this stuff. A guy to shop around for the best prices and efficiencies, already has connections to supply chains.

@user-rh2ve7je6o

6 ай бұрын

Out of control production managers can destroy a company. I have seen very bad choices come into the shop in the middle of a production run. Parts had to be scraped they just did not fit the build. Parts that went to the low bidder did not meet quality standards. A lot down time and re-engineering and cost over runs.

I take pride in keeping my semi and trailer in good working condition. I'm no mechanic or technician, but I can do some work. Often, it would really help me if I could take a picture of a parts number, send it to my boss and ask him to order that part for me. So I'd like to suggest, that you put on the parts number in a way it stays on and is relatively easy to find and read - if that is possible.

@Nate-bc1el

7 ай бұрын

from each end/ visibly as a tech, this is loved for warranty and after repairs....

@rolnthunder6737

5 ай бұрын

even better is having a digital copy of the parts manual stored and accessible in the truck... see the actual part get the number, pull it up in the truck and confirm it in your parts manual. order the right part every time. added bonus would be to further braking down the part number with a further click ie... hose 123,.. #6 hose 132 inches/ 330 cm ends a: JIC 90 deg; b: straight or widget xyz Fort Garry isle 7 shelf 3😅

@SierraKilo76

5 ай бұрын

@@rolnthunder6737Nice idea.

That's always the battle, you want to do everything yourself and know you can't blame anyone except yourself. But there are so many sub companies that take care of the random things that it's just easier to pay the guy and done be done. The more efficient you can make your supply line the more efficient you can make your manufacturing line, and time is money.

Just imagine making a peterbilt 372 aerodynamic COE diesel electric. That thing was making 11mpg (roughly 17.70km to 3.78 liters) in the late 80s when it was introduced.

This can easily scale down to a pick up truck and you can find vintage truck cabs at any junk yard. Anyone could built this that's so cool On the scale of a car all you need is a cheap little generator

this needs a OTR version 100%, after all day cab is nice and all but i would think that the biggest gain with a Hybrid system is gotten from long distance heavy hauls.

so in all of BC there isn't a single company that manufactures the hoses you need? or did omniflex reach out, if they did, they should front you the hoses.

Are you looking foward to the day when you can just drive this from event to event instead of trailer if?

I really want to see the peak performance and what it's capable of doing under load