Totally apathetic attitude from the councils around the country. How hard would it be to offer the empty units, rent/rate free, for 24 months whilst you build your little business.

@galleryhad7747

3 ай бұрын

Me please. Biulding.little model boats.

@OldQueer

3 ай бұрын

I did some contract IT work for Newcastle Council at one point and the whole place is thick with incompetence. They blame Tory cuts for everything while failing to look within at their own misgivings. The place is filled with busybodies who wouldn't know what good looked like if it slapped them in the face. The politics of the place were utterly ridiculous and people would rather waste taxpayer money than upset a senior or Councillor. It made me sick to see it. I saw similar on a central gov contract I once did.

@peterkiernan7745

3 ай бұрын

They don’t want small businesses

@paulmartin4285

3 ай бұрын

@@galleryhad7747 Soooooo many little businesses ideas could be realised, you create an incredible place to shop and interact. The only things that seem to open are bars and expensive chain eateries.

@EgoChip

3 ай бұрын

It's not apathy, it's corruption.

Somewhere in Newcastle there's a graffiti supplies shop that's doing fantastically well.

@brinjoness3386

20 күн бұрын

They probably buy it from Amazon

@PRDGLBRD

20 күн бұрын

Colours in Ouseburn 😂

@XKoriX214

15 күн бұрын

😂

@johnwhite2293

11 күн бұрын

B&Q

@isobellickes8543

6 күн бұрын

Like a ghetto.

16:57 you missed a little gem being the Central Arcade, beautiful small glass roofed building cutting through two main streets Grainger Street & Grey Street

@Withnail1969

29 күн бұрын

that is a beautiful little place built when Newcastle was a real boom town

@sweenytodd202

22 күн бұрын

I worked on Market Street for 10yrs and it was buzzing.What Killed the Town was a place called the Metro Centre which came with Free Car parking.Which Newcastle could not compete sadly due to the ridiculous high parking fees in Newcastle and this was the kissof death I spent 20yrs of my life working all together working in there so I kown how it affected it.very sad.😂

@craigjohnson2301

22 күн бұрын

@@sweenytodd202metrocentre seems to be dying out as well now. Online shopping has killed the high streets. The work from home change accelerated by the pandemic might be the final nail.

@invertlaws94

17 күн бұрын

​@sweenytodd202 metro centers not much better these days the two little village things in there are completely empty now and half the shops are shut in main part

@jonk9697

16 күн бұрын

​@Withnail1969 part of Grainger's plans in the 1830's but was intended as a corn exchange. Only became a shopping arcade in 1906 after a second fire completely gutted it.

I think it suffered because it was a weird little bit in the corner of Eldon Square. There is a flow through the rest of Eldon Square but you have to make an effort to walk off and around Eldon Garden and then come back into the main mall again if you're just generally shopping.

I think people like you who make videos touring the UK are doing really important work in drawing attention to the situation and getting us talking and thinking about what to do with it.

@MargaretCampbell583

3 ай бұрын

It’s awful

@haveanotherpinacolada

3 ай бұрын

Drawing attention... all anyone has to do is go out for a walk and see it for themselves it's everywhere.

@MackerelCat

3 ай бұрын

@@haveanotherpinacolada who can go everywhere?

@lordpurchase9189

3 ай бұрын

The problem is that a lot of people are in denial about it all with there eyes glued to there smart phones. Its good that there are videos like these to show people what is going on. Unfortunately there isn't anything we can do its just modern times. Britain has seen better days.

@kissofjudaz

3 ай бұрын

@MackeralCat Get people to stop shopping online, that’ll not happen.

Eldon Garden was never a hub of shopping. An absolute fortune was spent to extend Eldon Square, and literally no-one ever went. Two problems are the cost of Newcastle's business rates, and the fact that we're all totally skint here :D

@gailcollins2397

3 ай бұрын

I remember when Eldon Garden opened it never really took off the way the rest of Eldon Square had and now since Debenhams has closed Eldon Square is looking a bit sorry as well

@Justice237

3 ай бұрын

⁠@@gailcollins2397I lived in Newcastle for 5 years and left last August, Eldon Square was fairly bustling when I was there, especially on weekends. Eldon Garden has been a ghost town for as long as I can remember though.

@thomasgordon2081

3 ай бұрын

Eldon gardens was just always too far out of the way, tucked in some shite corner and filled with shops that were too niche. If the company running Eldon square had any sense they'd have got a popular shop or two in there to drive foot traffic but it was just shite like Rohan or that indy art dealer.

@gailcollins2397

3 ай бұрын

@@Justice237 it’s mainly the mall leading down to what was Debenhams that’s gone quiet quite a few empty shops now . The rest is still ok

@hmq9052

3 ай бұрын

​@@Madie839Comparatively, you are.

My lovely partner who recently passed away showed me her city. The city of Newcastle. As a Southerner I loved the culture character and buildings history of this great city.

@wanderingturnip

3 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that about your partner. The buildings really are something special up there, no wonder she wanted to show them off. You should get back up and have a wander around 👍👍

@guestandsons

3 ай бұрын

@@wanderingturnip Thank you I will.

It was always very quiet. It was an attachment to the Eldon Square centre and was mainly an access for the shop mobility and car parks over the road. Lakeland had one of the stores which pulled people down from the main centre. There was no footfall when that shop left. They can't really shut it as it is an entrance. It was never a busy hub down there.

I saw an ad on TV about visiting Turkey last week and thought that'd be nice. As I was searching online and came across a nice hotel and flights included for 250pp, I had a call from a mate who wanted me to go into town with him so I could sit in his car so he can park close to where he wanted to go to avoid a ticket. Three parking attendants turned up in 15 minutes, and three times I went round the block and came back. Most of the shops were boarded up except a few, including one travel agent. When my mate got back, I went to it and found the same package for £489pp! Here's why I think the high street is dead. It can't compete with online experience, let alone parking fines of £100 for a few minutes over and their silly overheads. Impossible.

@JenniferA886

3 ай бұрын

True… the high street is dead. It’s too far gone 👍👍👍

@the_9ent

3 ай бұрын

Yup, that’s their mark up on top of the actual price - the one you found online. They find the exact same deal and whack a commission on top. It’s why I don’t bother with travel agent’s.

@JenniferA886

3 ай бұрын

@@the_9ent so true. And most of the people I’ve found working in that type of retail are just jumped up little shits with a chip on their shoulder. For me, it’s online all the way 👍👍👍🌎

@wrathofatlantis2316

3 ай бұрын

What exactly IS an online experience? I always support local shops, regardless of markup, because I want my streets to not look like a zombie apocalypse... If I order something, it is after scouring all the local shops to ensure they don't have it. With the cost of shipping it all amounts to about the same. People claim ordering online is cheaper (in my area of interest it is mostly plastic modelling), but a lot of specialized shops offer fidelity discounts, so the rationale barely adds up, with the massive inconvenience of delayed reception by days or even weeks, and having to wait at the post office. In addition, a Hobby Shop will have the small paint bottle you just ran out of and want right now, so not supporting retail makes even less sense. For barely a 15% gain, often well under 10% if you include shipping, I just don't get people turning their cities into deserts and calling it a deal...

@JenniferA886

3 ай бұрын

@@wrathofatlantis2316 good point…

The flag at the end of the video depicts Britain. Worn out, fatigued and no more care. Great Britain should be renamed, Broken Britain and no government is willing to repair it as long as greed exists. "Scrap business rates" and those shops will be alive with trade, culture, meeting places, music shops and farm produce. Governments are supposed to care for us, not neglect us.

@Vikface1978

3 ай бұрын

The term “us” is very liberal here… they do care but only about the elite 😢

@ellenoneill7853

3 ай бұрын

🎯

@TheDoosh79

3 ай бұрын

A country in its death throes, clear to see by every man woman and child except anyone in Westminster.

@seansmith445

3 ай бұрын

@@TheDoosh79 ~It's those in Westminster who caused it - deliberately.

@magsk6721

3 ай бұрын

Yes that' just said it all ! Didn't it ? Sad !

The Eldon Gardens was put for sale in early 2023, which is why many of the few remaining shops have closed or relocated. The main Eldon Square shopping mall is still pretty busy, esp on a Saturday, as is Northumberland Street. (featured in the video). Basically cannot compete with the Metro Centre (15 minutes away by car) and Amazon. Shame ... it had some nice bars and restaurants when it first opened. The shops were too specialized though and pricey for typical Geordie shoppers. Just came back from a holiday in Valencia, Spain. All malls were vibrant (old and new) ... Spanish still love to shop and eat out. There are other factors at play here ... not just changing customer shopping habits. Sky high rent and rates, greedy landlords, apathetic councils etc etc. Great video ... thanks for posting.

@lawrencesword5183

27 күн бұрын

glasgow and dundee hve one full centere and one with nearly no shops and just like pound shops in them

@MP-vc4nu

3 күн бұрын

Rent isn’t really that costly, Extra expenses like rates, service charges are out of hand. Why on earth these cost nearly equal to rent? Plus, things are much cheaper to afford in Spain, as in price for customers. Products are overpriced in UK expecting to get most of money out of very small amount of customers instead of massive flow of customers with much less price.

My cousin had his wedding at the castle in Newcastle. It was class!

It's been a total White Elephant from day one. The worst thing is, they demolished the fantastic Handyside Arcade of 1906 to make way for this monstrosity.

@stconstable

3 ай бұрын

Actually it was burned down. Very suspicious.

@nelzapoppin

3 ай бұрын

That was Leazes Arcade just behind it, the Handyside was demolished. @@stconstable

@jimh4072

3 ай бұрын

⁠That happens a lot in Belfast too, if you want to see spontaneous combustion - just go up to an old building, pointing at it while saying the magic words “listed building” next thing you know is the whole street is ablaze. 😂😂😂

@nelzapoppin

3 ай бұрын

That was the Leazes Arcade behind it, the Handyside was demolished. @@stconstable

@abc33944

3 ай бұрын

Same thing happened with the fire of ..London Incredible concrete tartarian architecture “ burned”

You would be amazed at how many malls are gone and dying here in the United States. Developers built way too many malls in the 1980s and 90s…. It’s a mess and many properties are rotting away while homeless people are everywhere.

@SEANPOL203

3 ай бұрын

Americas homeless is another level, says it all about the US Government

@nigelkthomas9501

3 ай бұрын

We didn’t have the internet until 1989; and no-one knew at that time how big it would eventually become. The White Rose Centre in Leeds was built in 1996/7 and that’s well patronised today. Parking is plentiful and buses frequent. It’s soon to get a new train station albeit about 300 yards away. There’s a number of things you can’t buy online because you need to see how they fit and work. If you buy clothing and shoes and they don’t fit it’s an inconvenience to have to return them.

@pholdway5801

3 ай бұрын

There was definitely a gleeful and unwise over expansion but the other factor is OUR altered habits as to WHERE we shop and how difficult it is to do this efficiently when the internet shopping option is only a click away WE KILLED THE MALLS AND SHOPPING PRECINCTS too And were helped by Amazon and all other online sellers.

@simonsadler9360

3 ай бұрын

Good to see from Spain donations to build more Steam locos !under Britain a fortune in safely minable coal ,we gave steam to the world, even now steam catapults used on aircraft carriers ,all of Britain was fabulous inventors

@user-mn4cc6bb7t

3 ай бұрын

@@pholdway5801 I agree. Car ownership is higher and people are prepared to drive immediately to out-of-town shopping centres with free parking rather than wait for the bus. Although many city centre factories have now been turned into flats, not least for students, there has been a drift of people moving to the suburbs. Visiting the city centre is more than a 10-20 minute walk for a much larger proportion of the population.

Glad you got to the castle I used to play in the castle when I was a child 1952 sixpence entry the dungeon was very spooky I have been all over the castle. I emigrated to Australia with my wife and children 1970 When I came back on holiday to visit my family I made a beeline to the castle and was sadly disappointed most of it was cordoned off, so thank you for happy memories

Excellent summary of the city's struggling retail industry. Balmbra's - still closed - was the iconic place mentioned in the famous Geordie tune entitled The Blaydon Races. Sad times indeed.

I remember when this first opened - it was filled with super-high end boutique shops, all priced way above your average geordie's means. I think their prime custom was WAGs of footballers and that's about it.

@OpticalChaos

3 ай бұрын

exactly right, no one ever went to this area of town. no one knew who it was aimed at. Overpriced stuff, I knew one person who bought a lamp there once, that is it.

@oceansunset6147

26 күн бұрын

For Cheryl Cole and Gang???

@user-er2cl4wp7y

24 күн бұрын

It was always about a global economic collapse.

@davidhuggan6315

23 күн бұрын

I remember when it first opened too. It was the clean, very white, posh part of Eldon Square

@LadyAuld

23 күн бұрын

@@oceansunset6147Cheryl Cole didn’t live in Newcastle after her fame. Then she Married Ashleigh Cole who played for Manchester. I don’t think she’s lived in Newcastle since she was on popstars.

It would have been interesting if you went across the river to Gateshead. Absolutely miserable high street filled with the walking dead, scabby pigeons, and perpetually unemployed.

@cutterbacon

3 ай бұрын

I just drove to gateshead and what a scary shithole. I made a wrong turn near some shops and ended up at some nasty rough prison looking flats all empty and looking like a scene from walking dead. No im never going near gateshead again. Awful area.

@cutterbacon

3 ай бұрын

Similar feeling at baltimore md.

@RobinPalmerTV

3 ай бұрын

That trendy bit near Hillgate Quays is quite nice on the Gateshead side but that's about it.

@user-ft2oo7yj2m

3 ай бұрын

Uk gone downhill everywere

@Futura2500

3 ай бұрын

I worked in Gateshead in the 2000's it wasnt anything like that 20 year ago -really sad @@cutterbacon

I laughed when John said it was back in the day in the late 90s when he went to the night club. The night club was called Madison with Chassons in the mid 70s when it opened and we got in there. I actually got to dance with Hot Gossip in there. There were two dance floors. The main dance floor was for your mainstream disco music. But at the top end was a smaller dance floor for funk music and 12th inch singles.

@AnthonyPatterson-qp7bx

29 күн бұрын

I was a DJ in 1994 in the 12inch bit😊😊 that was where the RAVE music was played😊

@Malubvra

28 күн бұрын

@@AnthonyPatterson-qp7bxDid you say you had some old tickets for this place mate?

Thankyou for featuring my city Newcastle! Love that you checked out the history and the cats!

Despite the similar names - Eldon Garden and Eldon Square are owned by two separate companies. Eldon Garden was due to be put up for sale last I heard in 2023.

@deniseproxima2601

3 ай бұрын

Who was playing elder scroll?

@nicknewton7384

3 ай бұрын

It always has been a quiet area, but I remember the cafe being busy.

@grannygrump4407

3 ай бұрын

INTU owned some of it

Another issue is developers and councils will combine 3-4 shops into one massive shop. Nobody wants 2000-3000 sqft shops. Short sighted.

@freedomvigilant1234

2 ай бұрын

I have noticed some companies combining several shops into one in order to split the costs etc.

@Llamarama100

14 күн бұрын

This is why so many shopping centres have so many huge empty shops. It's not that people don't want a shop, it's that they couldn't fill the huge spaces on offer.

I love your videos, you leave no stone unturned, great effort. Thank you.

From Newcastle and I remember when the giant building (7:04) used to be a Barclays Bank. Also used to work part-time at the cafe in the centre of Eldon Gardens (before it changed to Sambuca's), the area was deserted of shops even then (granted only around 10 years ago) - some businesses came, then left and their was a broken air-con/fan constantly making a noise.

I visited Newcastle last year for the first time in 10 years and whilst it’s not the city it once (I lived close by 40 years ago) was the city centre is still very vibrant as you’ve shown. The quayside is such a nice place to visit in the summer too. The fact that the City still has John Lewis, Fenwick and a big recently refurbished M&S tells you there is still money there. FYI there is still a branch of Waitrose in nearby Jesmond. There are so many towns now as bad or worse, I was in Glasgow last year also and Sauchiehall St is desolate these days all the shops have pretty much closed now, even Buchanan Galeries shopping centre is almost empty, just John Lewis and a few small shops now. Looking at some smaller towns, Grimsby Victoria St has around 70% of the stores closed. I can’t believe the government think throwing these towns a few million to fix them is going to work, they need hundreds of millions to fix them and some out of the box planning too.

@marierobson8144

3 ай бұрын

Don’t hold your breath or try and make it look shinier than it actually is; haven’t you heard that John Lewis is making 12,000 redundancies?!

@mgthestrange9098

3 ай бұрын

Buchanan Galleries has been busy any time I’ve been in it lately.

Good grief! I lived in Newcastle from 2007-2012 and remember going in there a lot, especially to use the toilets when out with the lads on a pub crawl. I find it almost hard to comprehend how it's gotten like that in just over a decade. 😱 I mean I know the answer, it's Amazon and online shopping in general, but it's still almost unbelievable how quickly things have died. Princess Quay in Hull will be like that soon, if it's not already - been many a year since I've been in, but the last time I did it was clearly on its last legs and the place was only built in the '90s at a massive cost. Pretty much a giant greenhouse on a dock, all glass and water. Impressive to look at.

@Sandra-Gibora

3 ай бұрын

Probably because the shops don’t make any money if the lads and you only going there for a pi$$

@ChristineHillier67

3 ай бұрын

I went to Kingston upon Hull last year,it's a beautiful place,but you are right,the princess quay is being deserted, when I went a whole floor was shut.such a shame,but the shops outside of the mall were quite busy.there you go David, another place to investigate! 😊💜

@Wambo-ex3yu

3 ай бұрын

The shops in Eldon Garden were always struggling and there was a perpetual turnover of half the outlets. When the financial crash hit in 2008, units started to empty. It was always a soulless place.

@Simon-xc5oy

3 ай бұрын

Yes I am as shocked as you. Last time I was there was in early 2013. My ex wife used to go to Bravisimo. The place was thriving. All units and shops open, cafes open and people browsing and getting coffee. It was always pricey in that section though, and the shops were more upmarket than the rest of Eldon Square so it was a short of up market niche. Looks like they priced themselves out of business totally. Too expensive for shopping so shops shut. I bet they were charging silly money for rental, rates and electric etc and could not make profit. I used to park in one of the carparks that opened onto Eldon Gardens so you would walk in to there from parking the car. All the shops were utter tw*ts about it though and would no help you with change for the car park. The blasted ticket machines would not give out change so you had to have the exact money for parking to the penny. The machines took in coins but gave nothing out back if you went over which was just pure greed. Hardly surprising its empty now looking back on it....

@jamegumb7298

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon-xc5oy Something few people think of. Something local, little shopping centre, it charged €5000 per m² per month, 2008-2010. Then around 2015 it was €8300. I stopped working there then but supposedly around coof days a lot of shops went down the drain and desperate to make their money they went to, I heard, well over 14K. Then no shops opened up anymore and they reportedly only invited larger chains after a big remodel and kicked most of the rest out, with the larger chain stores getting big discounts the more area they rented, as low as €4500 per m²in 2023. That is a great deal. Judging from the €12.95 the shoemaker asks for a simple key copy he has to pay big still.

The arcade area where the snooker hall is. Is getting redevelopment to the largest tower in Newcastle called Gainford tower

All those busy places were always busy. They’ve struggled to expand the centre though. Eldon Garden was always quiet even when first opened- load of designer shops no one was interested in. Great vid - taken me back home

I'm surprised that coffee machine hadn't been stolen from the abandoned centre.

@AndrewBuckleBookReviews

3 ай бұрын

Sadly, I thought exactly the same thing ... perhaps a good sign that it is still there and intact and has not been vandalised.

@Magic-Florence

3 ай бұрын

I thought so too! And the abandoned tables, chairs and artificial plants. The centre looks like it's waiting for a magic wand to breathe life back into it!

@GarethSewell1982

3 ай бұрын

This centre still forms part of the larger Eldon Square complex…

@glynhayes5930

3 ай бұрын

Lol my first thought was to nip down there and grab it. Bit of tlc it probably works lovely.

@AGeordieTravels_

3 ай бұрын

The place is still open as has CCTV and security and lots of police very close by.

I'm surprised how clean and and tidy it still is...

@richmaniow

3 ай бұрын

I thought that, the shopping centre looked like it had just been built, bizarre..

@paulmcdonough1190

3 ай бұрын

So agree 👍

@lesigh1749

3 ай бұрын

Eldon Garden stays open because it links a large multistorey car park to the main Eldon Square Shopping centre which is a dozen of times bigger than Eldon Garden itself. Its kept clean and tidy because hundreds of people pass through it all day. it has no shops in it now sadly, but its not abandoned.

@newsmonger77

3 ай бұрын

I saw a lot of graffiti!

@jean2740

10 күн бұрын

That's because there's nowt there to steal, otherwise it would be full of pickpockets purse snatchers or shop lifters?

This was a good way to show how much needs to be done in Newcastle xx

First time viewer and really enjoyed the video, I’m from the North East and really really enjoyed it. I have some great memories of Eldon Gardens but it’s really sad to see now!! Keep up the great videos!!

I worked in the nightclub from 1987 until it closed ,largest in Newcastle , thriving every week ,,sad to see it like this ,,we were a great team ,miss all you madison staff ❤

@harryl9yearsago788

3 ай бұрын

People still rave on about maddisons nowadays,must of be decent

@geordieal

3 ай бұрын

@hazelbarnes8556 Me and me mate used to go to Madison every Thursday night for party night..I still have some of the free tickets to get in!. Sometimes I'd go to Bulletproof! in the top half ( was it called Macy's??) but my mate would never go because he didn't like "indie music". Had some amazing nights in there around '89-97

@hazelbarnes8556

3 ай бұрын

@@geordiealyes it was macys way back in the day, I am glad you have good memories,, it certainly holds alot for me, and all of you regulars,,, Fantastic

@geordieal

3 ай бұрын

@@hazelbarnes8556 Madison always had the best staff! Funny to think that if you worked at one of the bars you probably served me many many times back then! I think the last time I went would have been sometime in '96 ( I think it was NE1 by then).. me and a different mate went on a Friday and he'd stashed some E's in his shoe, the bouncer busted him and called the cops who took him away. The bouncer recognized me, did a search ( I had nothing concealed) and let me go in! I used to go to Madison in 'boro too( I worked down there for a year)...was also a great place and have many happy memories from there too!

@Mod-rw9cw

3 ай бұрын

Would that be Madisons. What a place it was and full of beautiful women.

I think a little bit of context is needed for this video those that don’t know the area. Basically there are two separate shopping centres, Eldon Square and Eldon Gardens, owned by separate companies. But they are connected, in that you can walk from one through to the other and form a complex that covers a lot of space right in the heart of Newcastle, by Northumberland Street, the main shopping area for the city (which is actually the most expensive location in the UK outside of London to own a shop). I think if you’d have started your walk from the Monument end of Northumberland Street and walked down in and through the busy Eldon Square to get to Eldon Garden it would gave given a very different impression of the area, with big stores like TK Maxx, Fenwick, John Lewis, and a very large M&S on your way to Eldon Garden. Also worth bearing in mind that there was a third mall connected to the other two, that was Monument Mall which was refurbished to become the large TK Maxx store along with other units alongside it. And with the Metrocentre (the UK’s second largest mall in terms of size) being only 15 minutes drive away and offering free parking you can see that there’s a lot of competition in the area.

@OpticalChaos

3 ай бұрын

Everyone who watches this video should read this. Whoever contacted David and told him about Eldon Gardens is distorting history.

@est6682

Ай бұрын

Not a lot in the metro at times

@Elina_Strongbear

Ай бұрын

I read they were going to build the metro in Consett on the old steelworks site, wonder how different that would have made things, Consett might have actually had a metro link.

@gateshead_angel

Ай бұрын

Eldon Gardens was put on the market last year, that's why it's empty and nothing in there to let, no it's for sale 4.9m

@craigjohnson2301

22 күн бұрын

@@Elina_Strongbearis that deffo true? First I’ve ever heard it and that would’ve been a cool what if

i love going to the top floor of eldon garden with my friends when out at town, its a really nice place to get a quiet moment especially on really busy days

I had absolutely no idea Eldon Garden was still open! I really miss the food court they had in there. Great video, keep up the good work.

The empty shopping center would be a great place for a film set. A remake of "The Langoliers" or something like that.

@falaise6077

3 ай бұрын

...or one of those "liminal space" videos, which are scary

@johncummins3860

3 ай бұрын

More like " soylent green " !!

@falaise6077

3 ай бұрын

@@johncummins3860 Sadly, Soylent Green has become reality. Can't believe it was made 50 years ago and set 50 years in the future

@X-raySpecs

3 ай бұрын

@@falaise6077 Check out Kane Pixels 'The oldest view'

@hugoagogo4324

3 ай бұрын

Or a Newcastle Hill Billy film like the one they did in Yorkshire inbred I think it were called 😂😂

Moved to Newcastle for uni and it’s crazy I’ve never seen these. As an interior architecture student you’d think our projects would be focused on the regeneration of those spaces. Not a big installation in grainger arcade which is already busy. It’s sad to see

@royfontaine5526

3 ай бұрын

Have you not wandered off the beaten track at all whilst at university there? Especially given your area of specialism? I certainly did while I was there, plus many of the surrounding areas.

@NTL578

3 ай бұрын

If you do any exterior architecture or know anyone who does, please design some classical architecture for the housing that's going to replace it.

@redf7209

3 ай бұрын

I believe GA is council owned

I live in Newcastle, but I didn’t know Elden Garden is empty. Sad to see many closed shops. Thank you for showing me around.

As others have said, even when there used to be shops open, Eldon Gardens was always quite quiet compared to Eldon Square. In fact I can't actually remember ever going in a shop there. The only time I ever used to go in that part was to use the public toilets that were there.

@gav5389

3 ай бұрын

I remember going with my mum so she could be a filo-fax for her new job.

@Carlin2810

3 ай бұрын

"quite quiet" Very impressive spelling skills I bet you even know the difference between Their Theyre & There dont you...Clever bastard..

@AdeboFunkyVoodoo

3 ай бұрын

​@@gav5389that stationary shop was the bomb.

@simonjones7727

2 ай бұрын

I remember that it might have been attached to a car park. You would walk through it to get to Eldon Square. Had smaller and speciality shops. Still very sad to see, the retail sector in the UK was so vibrant in the later 80s and 90s.

Im from Newcastle and went to live in Spain with my parents and never went back for 30 years and i returned in 2023 and stayed in the premier inn you saw: Here are my conclusions: First thing that shocked me: i got the metro from the airport to the city centre, it was the same rolling stock from when i left (1981) it was obsolete and the rails were not straight as it shuddered, then i traveled up the escalator to monument and walked to the hotel, i was then shocked by the amount of indigenous britons living rough asking ( politely) for money! Then i stopped at mcdonalds and was shocked to see two policeman on duty buying bigmacs in tatty worn out uniforms, im used to seeing the guardia civil in spain and how well turned out they are. All the shops on the highstreet are obsolete buildings, all they sold was junk food, no one sold anything. I hate to say it but the place is really run down, if anyone is ever in spain checkout the infastructure: the roads, pavements, metro, high speed trains, the bins, the police…. Everything is better. What shocked me the most was the war memorials, all those poor souls who paid with their lives for the country to end up in the state its in

@johnathandaviddunster38

3 ай бұрын

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@johnathandaviddunster38

3 ай бұрын

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@johnathandaviddunster38

3 ай бұрын

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@johnathandaviddunster38

3 ай бұрын

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@johnathandaviddunster38

3 ай бұрын

Google 3000 mille viviendas , and Canada real Madrid and see the bad side of , spain is the best country in the world on balance in my opinion but is far from perfect..

Love the chilled way you explain to the camera"a man there offering me a sausage" 😂

Wow. I just come across this video. In the 1970s, I remember when Eldon Square was just being built and opened up. I remember my mum shopping there. I was about 12/13 years old, my parents owned the Forth Hotel pub on Pink Lane, which is still there in 2024. On Saturdays I well remember wandering around huge areas of this newly built precinct. I even remember walking around a part where a leisure centre was taking shape, squash courts with overhead balcony type walkways, so you could look down at the players, huge rooms which were to be gymnasiums or dance studios. Nobody around, equipment and tools just left, no security or camera surveillance back then, we were just two schoolgirls exploring on our own. Hard to believe that fourty years on, you are walking around it now abandoned and empty. Very strange. Thank you for this hidden gem, and thank you to the the viewer that told you to investigate the area. You brought back so many memories. Good luck and success with your channel going forward.

Maybe the library was asked to move because it was being too loud

@RB-jq6gh

3 ай бұрын

It was because they were educating people.👨‍🎓👩‍🎓

@SuzanneO707

3 ай бұрын

Ours was with over 300 during austerity, and the Edwardian building is derelict , pigeon zoo. Wrecked and for sale. The libraries now squashed into a few rooms in the town hall. How very inspirational.

@HeavyMetalPowerBottom

3 ай бұрын

@TerryCollection 😂

@tonyf832

3 ай бұрын

All the page turning sure does make alot of noise

@davidfisher9026

3 ай бұрын

No need for a library. Needing extra cash, I enlisted in the Fusiliers TA a long time ago. After my medical I was asked to help other recruits fill in their application forms as they were illiterate.

Even the Gateshead MetroCentre, which is one of the biggest shopping centres in the country, has big parts boarded up. All of that happened post-covid.

@zak3744

3 ай бұрын

Nah, it was well before that. I lived in the North East for a couple of decades, but left just before covid. The Metrocentre had been looking really sad and empty a long time before, 'cos I'd noticed it for several years. I reckon from my memory it was maybe a couple of years after the financial crash that the shops really started changing in the Metro, some of the branded chain clothing and luxury shops started being replaced with phone shops/nail bars/seasonal gift shops/that sort of thing? Then a couple more years after that, you started getting more and more shops just empty completely. That's roughly as I remember it anyway! (I used to browse round Eldon Gardens for inspiration for Christmas shopping and presents! Being tucked out of the way, it was always full of the fancy, luxury shops: jewellery, artworks, posh furniture and nick-nacks and such.)

@lesigh1749

3 ай бұрын

@@zak3744 yep, it used to be high end boutique shops and luxury department stores like John Lewis, Debenhams, M&S, even Sears back at the start. Now its pound shops, budget book shops and nail bars. Primark is what passes for a high end shop there now. I remember going to the Metro Centre as a kid in the early 90s and everyone dressed up smart for a day out there, now the punters are as low class as the shops, tracksuit bottoms and hoodies all round.

@Solinvicti

3 ай бұрын

​@@lesigh1749 huh? MetroCentre has Omega, Tag Heuer and Breitling boutiques for watches. Jo Malone and L'Occitane boutiques for beauty products.

@matthewpescod3920

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the quality of the place has went downhill for sure, there’s still a couple of nice shops about but places like the village are just empty. shame, if it wasn’t for extortionate rents they could be filled with local start-ups

@user-my2ji5dr9v

2 ай бұрын

You can see now how all that convid was planned years ahead.

If you're ever in Newcastle again, not too far away is Seaton Delaval and New Hartley. Lots of abandoned railway lines, mining buildings and remnants in the woods.

I think one the things that keeps the space in limbo is that its the corridor between one of the main carparks and the still widely used Eldon square.

Eldon Garden is a small marginal offshoot of the Eldon Square shopping centre. It was never a "hub" of shopping and isn't a standalone shopping centre. Some of the previous shops have just relocated to elsewhere in town, eg Rohan. That Waitrose was not on the main footfall and that was its problem.

@richgl31

2 ай бұрын

To be fair Waitrose was next to Haymarket bus station… so plenty of footfall… but perhaps not their target market!.

@LouciferFlump

Ай бұрын

Yes I feel like this is not an accurate reflection of what it’s truly like. Dear me 🙄

@hb3393

29 күн бұрын

Didn't even know there was a difference between them!

@jackspnc

23 күн бұрын

​@@richgl31I know a girl who worked there when it was shut, they were told that the shop was making no money compared to the Jesmond and Ponteland stores so that definitely makes sense, just not the target demographic.

The roof in Eldon Gardens that you liked, came from Handyside Arcade which was a bit further down from there, which was sadly pulled down 1980's I can remember the night club down that alley in the 1980's. A lot of pubs and night clubs no longer exist there used to be loads.

@Magic-Florence

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info, very interesting 👍

@sk1d00

3 ай бұрын

It was a massive shame when Handyside was pulled down for Eldon Garden. Handyside was a very cool Victorian gallery with lots of funky stores.

@paulne9

3 ай бұрын

Yes it was, sadly a lot of old buildings were lost to so called progress. Under what was BT Swan House roundabout ( now 55° ) was built a copy of the Royal arcade, to house some shops for the workers of Swan House. They never opened, dont know as now its housing if you can still go there, but it was open to the public for years.

@user-qq4ev6il2r

3 ай бұрын

The Handyside Arcade was destroyed by fire in 1986, two days after it had been granted Grade2 listing preservation status, it was an inconvenient obstacle to Newcastle's "redevelopment". This was fairly standard practice in the the Thatcher era and the Eldon Garden was an extension of Eldon Square designed to pander to the Tory-voting enclave who reside in a charming place called Darras Hall. Consequently it was doomed to failure since it has nothing to do with the actual population of the rest of Tyneside, but then neither does anything else of Newcastle's "redevelopment". Multiple club owner/gangster Michael Quadrini got away with burning three nightclubs in insurance scams, one of them the infamous "Tuxedo Princess", the corpse of which was shuffled off to Middlesbrough Teesport and remains there to this day. The lockdown provided another excuse for "developers" the Reuben Brothers who evicted 150 small businesses from a building called Bamburgh House by denying they had signed a lease with the company who were subletting the rooms in this building to the small businesses, claiming the building was structurally dangerous and would be sold to the council for demolition. Not surprisingly, it's still there and has been converted into apartments, Reuben's bid for ownership of Newcastle United having been usurped by the House of Saud who managed the awesome achievement of appearing to be a more trustworthy owner!

@user-fo9bv2mm1g

3 ай бұрын

I loved the Handyside back when I was a kid.

I think we need more spaces to do things. In nottingham when topshop closed they turned the shop into a roller skating rink (not sure if it still is), and in Durham they have ping pong tables in empty units.

I remember going to Eldon Garden in the very early 90's, not long after it opened. It was a kind of 'upmarket' corner add-on to Eldon Square, with more 'boutique' shops as they'd be called today. It was the place you'd go to find an expensive pen shop, or a luggage shop. Shops that sold specific products, but perhaps with more selection than was available in Fenwick's or Binns (Binns is long gone now, but was a very popular department store). It just never really got the footfall they expected.

The graffiti pedestrian street you showed never had shops on it. One side was a hotel, the other side a night club (Madisons, when I used to go to go in the 1980's). Great video mind.

@GBDT

3 ай бұрын

@@bigstu4700 We did a photo survey in early 2000's and the graffiti wasn't half as bad as it is now. The path was part of the aerial walkway that wasn't well used. The sooner it is redeveloped the better.

@OpticalChaos

3 ай бұрын

your right, I'm nearly 50, I've never seen a shop in that area, its a shame the guy showing David around doesn't know the history other than the Nightclub we all used to go to there. it never had any shops, so this is kinda like fake news.

@LouciferFlump

Ай бұрын

@@OpticalChaosI’m the same age as you, and your comment is dead right!

@user-pb8gf1gc9e

Ай бұрын

There was a few shops there in the 90s as I used to buy my oils in one

@GBDT

Ай бұрын

@@user-pb8gf1gc9e I was talking about the raised 'street' between the Centre Hotel and the Madisons night club. There were no shops.

Built in the late 80's, early 90's it was never busy still sad to see it so empty.

@stconstable

3 ай бұрын

Yes not in a good location. Bad planning.

@Happyheart146

3 ай бұрын

I'm sure it's older than that, perhaps the gardens part was built later than the square, was convinced the square was there right at the end of the 70s. Recall my parents taking me there and I'm old lol

@davidwhitton9050

3 ай бұрын

@@Happyheart146 Eldon square is the mid 1970's I believe but it was Eldon Gardens that were being discussed. I am also old. I can remember Madison's nightclub that was talked about later in the video.

@Simon-xc5oy

3 ай бұрын

Eldon Gardens was an add on. Eldon Square was and still is a success and full of shops and shoppers. There are some empty units but not many. Shops have come and gone and changed a lot over the years. The Gardens was a late 80s addition and it used to have upmarket shops in there. Posh pots and pans, and jewellers etc. All the stuff sold there was not things most people needed day to day and it was expensive, its no wonder its empty in the current climate....I bet the rates and rent on the shops just got too high for them to make profit. The Metro Centre is going that way now. When Debenhams closed they could not find a company or store to take it all over, so its now been split down to smaller units. Waterstones had a huge shop in there, and moved to a tiny one as it got too expensive. Same with HMV. These problems for it started when it was sold off to a different company and they refurbished the whole place, ripping out the fountains and trees and plants and retiling the whole place. And now its got more empty units than shops... Med village gone, Antique village gone, Roman forum gone, just loads and loads of over priced food shops and cafes and some clothes stores is about all that is left there now....

@davidwhitton9050

3 ай бұрын

@@Simon-xc5oy plus it's only connected to Eldon square by the bridge over the road so missed out on all the foot traffic passing through Eldon square to Northumberland street, not a well thought out development.

I think they're planning to do work in Eldon Garden, because I keep seeing people with clipboards walking through and taking notes. Also seen them in little huddles pointing and discussing. It's been like that for quite a while, but it wasn't that long ago it was full. It's mainly there for the car park now lol.

I was just there today. I remeber every bit of Eldon Gardens, the place practically raised me. It's just sad to see it now.

I am in shock! My ex wife was from Newcastle and we used to shop there and the Metro Centre all the time. This year is the 11th year since the split. So say back in 2012, Eldon Gardens was still REALLY busy. More or less every shop open. That cafe in the middle was where we got coffee. The huge Jewellers shop that ran right around the corner was top end stuff and super pricey, but quality. There was a health spa in there, some pots and pans shops, high end clothes, a phone store and various other exclusive boutique style shops. It really was the expensive, upmarket classy part of Eldon Square that sold unique posh items. There was a custom pen shop that sold original fountain pens for example. All expensive, and all mostly things you did not really need, but stuff you bought if you had money. At Christmas the lights on the ceiling and the Christmas trees they had in there it was stunning, tasteful and classy. There was not one empty unit. Now in 2024 its more or less deserted. The fact that its basically a section of Eldon Square, that is not empty is really shocking as it still seems to me like I was there recently, even though its been over ten years. It proves a number of things. That the what they were selling was not necessary and vital to most people. That what they were selling was too expensive for most people. And that was simply due to rates on the stores are now too high, and the taxes. The owners could not make money off what they were trying to sell. All that is left is a nail bar, as people will always need nails fixing etc. I bet Covid and lack of footfall did it terminal damage as well. No one will go there now as there is nothing to buy anyway and it will be too expensive to open. If one or two places tried they would be shut in no time due to lack of interest. Newcastle is the capitol city of the North East. If you cant make a shop work there, then there is no chance. What can you do? Its sad, but all that sells now is food, cheap junk and takeaways. Things that you will need everyday. Nosh. Other than that its over...so sad.

@northernmostman

3 ай бұрын

I remember this place being alive and thriving 10 years ago, online shopping, covid, brexit, austerity, it's all too much and everything is changing.

@pigeonsareugly

2 ай бұрын

I think another reason is with the ridiculous inflation and cost of living people just couldn’t excuse spending money on as many luxuries. People are definitely still shopping in real life as Eldon square is usually packed whenever I’m in there

@Simon-xc5oy

2 ай бұрын

@@pigeonsareugly Yes I think you are right. People still go shopping for various things. And Eldon Gardens was a really luxury area with all posh shops selling things that no one really needed in the real world. The Jewellers store was incredible, it was huge but the prices were insane. It might have stayed afloat in London somewhere but not here. And the pen store was bound to go, who writes letters with old fashioned fountain pens? Not enough to sustain a business. Bravisimo though, that used to sell nice underwear as the ex used to go there specially....You were paying something like £75 - £100 for a bra...well...crazy. She had...huge....front extensions, so needed a decent bra, but I was astounded by the costs and that was over ten years ago. I think that most people never bothered with Eldon Gardens as it was just selling things people either did not want to buy, or need or were too pricey. And then as soon as the downturn hit anything like that becomes a zero priority. It was still sad to see though. The downstairs coffee shop was always pretty busy and people did go to wander around there. Its like this everywhere now. If you go to the Metro Centre, I used to park in the Yellow section and walk in from there. The cinema is there now and the arcade, but the DIY shop is gone, the DVD and high end Tv store, gone and also the Guitar shop I used to visit. When you get to where the cactus garden used to be its all just open space with kids play area, and a bit further down all these daft climbing walls and bungie jump rope style rides filling the space. The only thing left there from years ago is the newsagent, still in the same unit as well. Everything else around it is now gone, or something different. And upstairs its just all food outlets and eating places, no shops at all, just bar after bar selling food.....As that is all that sells now, everyone still has to eat.

Native here, great to see you do a video of the toon. I've lived here my whole life, I love the place. It's always been quite "edgy" but that's part of the charm. There's a lot of redevelopment happening / about to happen, so the city will look a lot better in a few years. If you ever fancy another trip, Gateshead would be my suggestion, dreadful place!

@kal558

3 ай бұрын

Stick South Shields on there as well while we're south of the river

@tameracingdriver

3 ай бұрын

@@kal558 to be fair mate I'd say Shields has got more going for it than The Heed!

@mellowmarkable

2 ай бұрын

​@@tameracingdriver It's got the beach for a start..

Wow I'm from Newcastle, I was there 1 year ago. It was jammed, can't believe this.

great video pal! I've lived in Newcastle all my life and didn't know Elden Gardens was open! Haha.

I'm from North London. Brent Cross shopping centre has quite a few empty shops in it now. Sad cause it's was great in the 80s and 90s even into the 00s. Shops are on borrowed time.

@Taylor23890

3 ай бұрын

Brent Cross always busy . I went mainly for John Lewis and fenwick . I’ve since moved from London

@spacechannelfiver

3 ай бұрын

It's pretty close to me, but you need to to get a Bus or have a car really. It's quicker and easier to get into town

@rezalrahim5258

2 ай бұрын

I often went to Brent Cross when I was studying in London in the early 90s

@kermito3659

2 ай бұрын

with the arrival of thameslink and all of the new towerblocks, it will probably pick up again

@Taylor23890

2 ай бұрын

@@kermito3659 high street and shopping centres thing of the past now . Shame I love going shopping , grabbing lunch and a few cocktails

The flag at the end is very symbolic of the country as a whole.

@2010gtoner

3 ай бұрын

your right.

@rain_down_

3 ай бұрын

The UK is in a rapid decline. Maybe we should take advantage of our links with Europe and grow strong together. Wait.... erm what??

@leejames1792

3 ай бұрын

@@rain_down_ yea, EU going down the pan too, look at Germany, Spain and its mass unemployed youth, Italy in a hole. The entire West is in decline, not just UK.

@EgoChip

3 ай бұрын

@@rain_down_ I agree, we did have an economic union with them, and it should have remained that way. But the bureaucrats turned it in to a political union, which we did not sign up for. That's one big reason Brexit rightly happened. They got drunk with power, and now the EU is going to become a totalitarian regime to survive, rather than admit it is a failure and return sovereignty to the nations and people.

@JoolsUK

3 ай бұрын

keep buying plastic Chinese goods and Chinese clothes online. Or choose not to.

I remember shopping in Eldon Garden and the Newcastle Furniture Company, but it was 25 years ago. However, I just learned that my favorite cafe, Cafe Royal closed down in 2020.

I lived in Newcastle from 1979 to 1988. And again in the late 2000s. In the Eighties and Nineties it was a destination. Iconic. Buzzing. Lots of fun. Stag and Hen parties every weekend. The nightlife was amazing with several big clubs and many bars catering to all tastes. The clothes shops did well because people needed to dress up to go out. Lots of places provided take away food - kebabs, fish and chips, burgers - for those leaving the nightspots. You couldnt get into the bars at The Bigg Market they were so busy. The Tube was recorded there. Then its successor programme. Bands played at The Riverside and other venues. Then the city council started to fuck it up. Demolition after demolition for no obvious good reason. And disastrous decision making like the closing of the busy Green Market opposite Grainger Market. Of course The Metro Centre at Gateshead drained custom. But the visionless people voted in again and again were the true culprits for the commercial decline. (Northumberland Street wasn't busy, btw, not to my eyes, compared with how it used to be on week days and weekends.) The Toon, as it was known, has been criminally mismanaged. And your video proves that.

@Wambo-ex3yu

3 ай бұрын

Agree with all that although I'm pretty sure a Tory administration would have been no better. The council has long seemed determined to destroy the beacons of counter-culturalism in Newcastle (Royal Arcade, The Broken Doll, Handyside Arcade), while chasing rates at the expense of civic improvement (Cathedral Square, the new Haymarket Hub, Eldon Garden). All short-termism.

@phil8528

3 ай бұрын

It’s honestly still like that. He’s walking round early in the morning on a week day. Newcastle is bursting with life in the evening.

@jackking5567

3 ай бұрын

I agree. Northumberland Street used to be rammed full with people, as did Eldon Square Shopping Centre. The night life of Newcastle was legendary. All gone, all destroyed by poor decision making. I mean look at Whitley Bay now - once heaving with social venues. It's all old folks homes now!

I was in Newcastle a few years ago and loved it!🇨🇦went to see the Fantastic Roman museum and excavation.Enjoyed a sandwich at Greggs sat in the park went up to Eldon Square loved the British History all around me.🇬🇧👍

@NTL578

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, this is major doom mongery. Newcastle is class. I don't pine at crappy 60's architecture being pulled down for housing and Georgian/Victorian buildings having the retail units removed from the bottom. My only hope is they don't take too long about it.

Its actually really beatiful I used to walk through as a short cut you can access Eldon Square from that Eldon Gardens

Where the premier inn is used to be a huge coop that had lots of different department.I used to work there when the food hall was all that remained however when I had problems with the alarm I used to have to explore the empty floors to find the problem and it was very eerie

The Premier Inn used to be CO-OP department store.

It really makes you open your eyes, truly by watching your videos. Really brilliantly put together material and in-depth research as always The Wandering Turnip. Such a sad and sorry state all our cities and towns are turning into. Makes me worry what will be left for my young children and by the time they have children. We need to get these greedy governments and councils out and start again with real people running them. ❤

@lonalxaia

3 ай бұрын

That's where the WEF come in problem, reaction, solution.

@hugoagogo4324

3 ай бұрын

Yes not bloody foreign people running them who can't even say a sentence of English and you haven't got a bloody clue what they are saying

@peterjones3100

Ай бұрын

"In depth research"? he didn't even know Newcastle had a castle ffs 🙄 He's wandering around making assumptions with no knowledge at all. jesus christ.

3:10 This reminds me of a shopping centre in Walkden, Manchester called the Ellesmere centre. One half of it is a ghost town. Looks similar too.

This is the same as the Whigift Centre in Croydon - which also has buckets every few metres to catch the rain from a very leaky roof and escalators always out of action!

Eldon. Gardens was once the Side Arcade, a beautiful Victorian shopping arcade the was a haven for marginal shops - cool record stores, vintage clothes shops (this in the 80s) It was turned into an extension to Eldon Square, which wouldn't be allowed today, but there was never any reason for anyone to go across the bridge to go there - it was just the same shops as the rest of the shopping centre had. It took away from the character of the city, for no reason at all.

Newcastle was once one of the most fortified city's in europe due to all the battles the city had protecting England from Scotland

@wanderingturnip

3 ай бұрын

Ah very interesting cheers 👍👍

@RachaelMorgan-om4xw

3 ай бұрын

Aye, and that's why we are called Geordies 😊

@MishMash22

2 ай бұрын

Now they protect England from Sunderland 😂👍

@RachaelMorgan-om4xw

2 ай бұрын

@@MishMash22 Shhh!!! I know a lot of Makem jokes, but they all end with the same punchline , chuckle! It's a friendly feud...unless football is involved 🤭

this is such a shock, i left newcastle in 2014 only going back on uni breaks, but I never imagined that the city would be this dead, its a shame growing up here was amazing but I feel a lot of us like me didn't see any opportunities in the city and had to move elsewhere

I came to Newcastle by train on a Saturday from Glasgow in 2005 for the great north run, I had a broken arm, which is why I didn’t drive.I walked around the city centre, and when I was in here, it was a very busy, bustling place.

Keel Row shopping centre in Blyth, just north of Newcastle.

@Blessingsuponyou

3 ай бұрын

Dave You should go to two cities in united states San Diego ( use be lovely with paradisical weatger most the year) Then a city like Detroit So you can contrast Both are now poop 💩 New York always been trash atleast far as I know San diego went downhill Tons of illegals now It's chaos Go to both and do a " death of high street" american edition Both plagued by mass migrants Which would be OK except purposely here paid for by politicians We are experiencing same problems as you But our " high streers" or main streets aren't empty like tgat Since covid restrictions lifted there's alot of people

@Wrest88

3 ай бұрын

Aye two shops left trading in there. And then it'll be completely gone at the end of the month. Blyth is finished well and truly

@Magic-Florence

3 ай бұрын

​@@BlessingsuponyouI like the fact he remains in Britain 🇬🇧

@tommo9757

3 ай бұрын

​@@Wrest88I was talking to the owner of a shop on the outside of the Keel Row in August 2023. They said they had received notice to move coz they were going to knock the entire block down for re-development in 2024.

@lesigh1749

3 ай бұрын

I hear that's been slated for demolition now.

They knocked down the Handyside Arcade in order to build Eldon Garden . What a waste

@chrisnash6992

25 күн бұрын

No, there was a fire which destroyed Handyside Arcade.

@nolslifegren

25 күн бұрын

@@chrisnash6992 No there was a fire which destroyed the Kard Bar which had moved to near Westgate road after they knocked the Handyside down

Elden Gardens was a white elephant from the start and never really took off. The night Club area has been empty since I lived in Newcastle and the night club was the last place left apart from the snooker hall. Night club was NE1 but it was so quiet we used to call it Nee One. Newcastle city centre is pretty vibrant at main shopping areas. There's a newer Frankie and Bennies at Eldon Square. There's lots of redevelopment always going so some empty areas are for that. Grainger Market has really picked up over last few years

@Malubvra

28 күн бұрын

Do you have any photos of the nightclub when it was open?

I used to work here! 20 years ago when I was a student I'd do this walk through the shopping centre hungover early on a Saturday and Sunday when I was working at the Eldon Square McDonald's (no longer there) inside this shopping centre. It was always quiet first thing in the morning and it hasn't changed much. I didn't realise they'd closed most of the shops! 😢

A potentially interesting shopping center for you to check out would be Castle Quarter in Norwich. Not even because of the impressive build and location, but instead the way it has reinvented itself over the last few years. I remember a few years back walking through and it was all pretty much empty. However management took over and decided instead of trying to fill the space with retail. They instead tried to get it full of activities! The whole mall now has a completely different vibe and is a great activity destination, both for young and old!

@Wambo-ex3yu

3 ай бұрын

True. My two favourite cities in England are Newcastle and Norwich!

You never hear of prisons shutting down.🤔

@tommo9757

3 ай бұрын

HMP Ashwell was a cat-C prison closed in 2011. These things just don't make the news ...

Even before they did the final closures in Eldon Gardens it was always really quiet. It just never seemed to take off. People walk past it in the main mall and hardly ever went into it.

Oh man that is crazy...back in the mid 90s I was a student in Newcastle and I worked at the Early Learning Centre here and the place was buzzing.

That’s so creepy. Sad. Wonder what they’re up to? Be safe sweet wandering turnip. 🙏🏻✨❣️

@GT380man

3 ай бұрын

What “they” are up to is what I term the “decivilisation of the West”. “They” no longer need anything from us. That’s a perilous position to be in. Imagine you find yourself regarded as surplus livestock in a loss-making farm. What do you think the owner would do? Yes. That’s what “they” are planning.

@Original_Guy_Fawkes

3 ай бұрын

They'll turn it into shared accommodation to house the "New English".

I remember Eldon Gardens when it opened, when I lived in Newcastle during 1988/89. Was one of the first of its type, very swish at the time and would become the norm across the country in the years to come. I remember it having a huge food court, full of food from different parts of the world, it was all new at the time, but no one could foresee the damage these type of places would do to the traditional High Street. I always thought Eldon Gardens though essentially another adjoining part of Eldon Square was detached and isolated, you never seemed to get led to it, but had to make a conscious effort to find it , maybe it was just me or maybe that helped in its demise. You could say that was around the time the UK decided it wanted to become the 51st state of America, and now it feels like it, with all the extreme contrasts of wealth and poverty in a divided UK, to be seen before our very eyes. It makes sense for the council to move shops to one place, rather than have two half empty shopping areas. The reasons for the decline are well known and documented, but I do think in the UK our decision makers made some bonkers decisions and still do today, where we built new shopping malls in towns, leading to more units than were actually needed, fuelled by deliberately allowing people to amass huge personal debt on credit cards etc, whilst everything suggested the High Street would suffer in the long term. Even since these videos started, things continue to get worse. In the North East in the last couple of weeks, Marks and Spencer's have said they are closing their Sunderland store. These flagship stores are the key to thriving shopping places, as I believe a lot of people initially head into town to go to these places, then may go into other lesser known shops afterwards. I was only in Waitrose recently and there was no indication it was closing. Too expensive for me, but I would go in there before I got the bus home, to see what was reduced. You used to get some quality food heavily reduced just before the closed.Not all doom and gloom though, I'm sure shuttering firms have done well over the last 20 years or so, similar to being a Glazier in Belfast during the 1970s.

@marierobson8144

3 ай бұрын

…. add to that the very recent announcement that John Lewis is making 12,000 redundancies! Things aren’t going to get better any time soon, too much damage inflicted already. :(

@Magic-Florence

3 ай бұрын

Really interesting comment, Ronnie 👍

@Wambo-ex3yu

3 ай бұрын

Well, yes. Eldon Garden was a product of that hyper-consumerism of the late 80s period. They demolished a cornerstone of Newcastle's societal and architectural fabric (Handyside Arcade) and replaced it with ephemeral unloved nothingness. Total destructiveness.

Not from Newcastle but from the North East. The building that had the blue tarp in the windows, pretty sure that was a Barclays branch. The restaurant at the end of Stowell St. (Chinatown) was Mamak, went once and had one of the worst meals ever in there. They used to have ducks hanging in the window. I visit maybe 6 times a year, used to go all the time in my youth, and there’s some parts of the city I’ve never been to - The spray painted buildings where the nightclub once, never seen that street ever. Newcastle does have some beautiful hidden gems though, whether it’s shopping, bars, restaurants or entertainment, they’ll be institutions that will survive andnbe a cornerstone of the city! Great video mate.

Have you been to Newton Aycliffe? Small town centre not very far from Newcastle - maybe about twenty minute drive on the A1(m). It was renovated about fifteen years ago and is now a cluster of empty units and charity shops.

I used to work in Eldon Gardens when it first opened and it was never busy xx

@wanderingturnip

3 ай бұрын

Oh really that’s interesting. When did you work there?

@harryl9yearsago788

3 ай бұрын

It's funny because it's a nice place well kept and Immaculate

@lesigh1749

3 ай бұрын

Most people, including me, used it to get between the car park and Eldon Square, it was a place to pass through, not really a place to go to.

@gav5389

3 ай бұрын

yea i thought of it as the posh part of Eldon Square @@harryl9yearsago788

@newbris

3 ай бұрын

@@wanderingturnipit was always in an awkward spot with less popular shops that didn’t attract as much footfall as Eldon Square. I lived there in late 90s.

Get yourself to Blyth, Northumberland quickly. The Keel Row shopping centre has been dying on it's feet for a few years now, and closes towards the end of this month, two shops left, very few others have closed down as the closure was pending. On this Eldon Gardens etc, the one just after Milligan's bakers was a Barclays Bank (taped up windows in blue). D

@contentelm5427

23 күн бұрын

It’ll be a shame having the keel row shut, it used to be my favourite shortcut from Greggs to the bus stop

10:53 used to be "Spirit" gym here, attached to the hotel. Had an excellent pool and facilities. Used to go there in 1998. 11:53 that club, which hosted Bulletproof, the best indie night in Newcastle at the time, was called Madison's.

A few friends and myself used to meet up every week at the “Marie Celeste”. cafe shown. One problem for Eldon Gardens was it seemed to have an ‘invisible barrier’ between itself and Eldon Square, as a whole. When a couple of places shut down there was an accelerating domino effect with businesses closing so quickly it was all over in a few months.

What have we done to England?? Sad..... 2024 We had the best golden years back then 1960 When England was great We had everything Ok no money But we had England ❤❤ Brtish values and common sense And good leaders kept England ❤❤ Street wise tal I was from north Newcastle 1960 Great happiness back then ❤❤

@user-fh7tx6no1v

3 ай бұрын

Yea why did men fight and some die in ww2 for this....

@user-si5sk2hm2n

3 ай бұрын

There is nothing beautiful or positive about it I think we were rich together with the Europeans instead with Rishi and his fellas

@user-yq3nu5hd6n

3 ай бұрын

@@user-si5sk2hm2n true Massive mists leaving Europe Suppose to be boarders control Now millions and millions coming to UK every year from middle Eastern country That just one problems Unfortunately we have a zombie government's One day England will be back

@user-yq3nu5hd6n

3 ай бұрын

@@user-si5sk2hm2n true Massive mistake leaving Europe...... Now millions of migrates coming to UK every year from middle Eastern country

@user-si5sk2hm2n

3 ай бұрын

@@user-yq3nu5hd6n Have you seen who they are hiring now and who they are letting into the country? these people can't even work, they are very lazy, they often take time off and they are not good at work most of them shouldn't be in the UK at all.I wonder if they came to the UK with real documents

I'm expat Geordie now an Australian citizen living in TAS...I remember the days in the 80's where you barely had elbow room to walk in Eldon Square due to the crowds. Eldon Gardens I am not familiar with.

@harryl9yearsago788

3 ай бұрын

Do you Still follow the toon 🤍🖤

@hpotts663

3 ай бұрын

Yeah remember Saturdays Christmas shopping mad, lol

@newbris

3 ай бұрын

I’m an Australian who was in Eldon Square a few weeks ago and it was still pretty busy. It is only Eldon Garden that has closed.

Good job mate and a nice finish seeing something really good.

My home town, bud... Utter shame😭😭😭cheers for the tour ❤️👌😁

The "complex" you mentioned is a new HMRC building. I walk past it every day on my way to work.

Not sure if a few of these things have been mentioned already, the big building with the temporary blue stickers was a Barclays branch. Another one of the empty buildings at the top of the high street was a NatWest (I think, but another bank) the area around the city wall / China Town is mainly business and call centres, the area with the abandoned club has been like that for a good decade and further away to that, we used to have a massive Warner Brothers cinema but all of that was bought by the university and they have a large complex just passed that area. The market is always busy, a lot of food outlets as well as the usual stalls and vendors. The Chronicle office is in the Bigg Market, that place is mainly full of bars rather than business and comes a live on the evening. But 100% right, in saying a lot of it has been condensed to make the high street the centre point as well as Eldon Square. Great video as usual.

terribly sad too see , we are losing so much so quick

@user-qk3kt7jp6o

3 ай бұрын

Agree, maybe that's why they push war so insidiously; they have no other answers?

@GT380man

3 ай бұрын

@@EmptybladderThere are no jobs & the tide has hardly begun to get really bad.

@jamiecovfefe6323

3 ай бұрын

@@Emptybladder it much more than that mate think about it

@billy4072

3 ай бұрын

How come that Union Jack was allowed to fly?? 🤔. Protestors missed it?

@chipbuttytime3396

3 ай бұрын

It has never been busy, it has always been underused and under occupied. I used to go there 30+ years ago and most people walking in it used it as a short cut to the car park

10:50 This was where a nightclub called Madison's used to be. The sloped path lead up to the entrance. That area has been dead for years tho and the council is largely only interested in redevelopments in the city centre. One pretty good thing about Newcastle is the fact that it's pretty compact, you can get across the city in 20-30 mins, the football stadium is in the city and the coast is only 8 miles away.

This is a fantastic video. I’m born and bred in Newcastle and it’s such a shame to see what’s happening to it. Beyond the closed down shops we’ve also started to knock down a lot of historic buildings for glass fronted student accommodation etc. It’s not looking good up here, so thanks for bringing it to light!

Different class, appreciate you doing it mate 👌