How Far Could A Stealth B-21 & F-22 Raid Penetrate Into Iran? (WarGames 215) | DCS
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Today we run a USAF 5th Gen Stealth Bomber Raid into Iran to knock out a fictional Uranium Processing plant. How far could a modern stealth raid penetrate into Iran's defenses?
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I can't believe Cap did an entire mid-air refuel without once using the word "giggity" . . .
@ecbst6
Ай бұрын
I was looking forward to it.
@piconano
Ай бұрын
Too much giggity is not good for your health. My mom used to say it can make me go blind...
@RossOneEyed
Ай бұрын
@@piconano I only went blind in one eye
@nobodyhome8148
Ай бұрын
@@piconano I just got hairy palms 🤣
@mirthenary
Ай бұрын
For shame, cap
Cap: "stick to the plan, it's a good plan. We should probably have a plan."
@dexlab7539
Ай бұрын
No plan best plan?
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
lol I was thinking that just as I said it...
@Sabrelynx.
28 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers Plans are over rated anyway :P
I like how the F22 has a massive attitude indicator taking up most of the HUD and Cap still somehow got disoriented and dove straight down lol 🤦
@xpk0228
Ай бұрын
I think he pulled too hard and too early when take off and stall the plane without realizing it.
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
@@xpk0228the problem was he was talking and not paying attention to his HUD. The Raptors not going to stall out, he literally talks about that the video. It has enough power to continually fly straight up until it reaches almost 50,000 ft. What happened was he just kept pulling
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
lol yes I'm not going to live that one down am I?
@hf117j
2 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers Depends on if you can find which way down is without missile assisting you, lol
The F-22 is undergoing another major upgrade now that will include an IRST, new ECM and an updated radar. Also will get stealthy fuel tanks.
@TimInertiatic
Ай бұрын
And french anti ship missiles... obviously
Cap asks Simba about the Tanker's lights at least twice a week. lol
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
Yeah but you got to cut the guy some slack when you realize how much time he actually spend flying comparing to editing and such and he has to fly about 40 different planes. There's no way I could keep up with it
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
lol yeh I got dyslexia real bad, still can't tell my left from right.
@tlogle2614
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers Does dyslexia do that?
@alanmike6883
28 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers Hey cap. I have a Idea. Is there any way to recreate the mission from iron eagle? Two of the gang taking the place of chappy And Doug masters and the others the opponents? 😊
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
23 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers>>> Dyslexics of the world, untie! 😉
This went remarkably well .... *Checks to make sure I am indeed watching the GR channel". ......Huh.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
I'm scared too...
Cap’s views haven’t fallen off KZread has
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Hey CJ!
Nice video. You have come a long way since the days when a group take off always resulted in the loss of 1/3 of the planes. Further, the discipline and teamwork is now top notch. This is actually much more fun to look at than the old times undisciplined fur ball dog fights.
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
Nah some of those old videos are pretty damn hilarious and fun to watch
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Roger Cam, just about got there in the end.
The F117 getting shot down was a mixture of complacency, espionage and the SAM operator taking a risk. The US runway was being watched by informants who were taking note of what was taking off and when, on this particular night they noticed that the F117s had gone in without wild weasel cover. The US had been using the same approach route to the target which had been fine because the F117s were almost impossible to target and when accompanied by jets armed with anti radar missiles it was a fools errand to switch on the radars for more than 2 quick scans as they'd soon be on the receiving end of some retribution. The SAM operator knew the F117s were coming and tried to scan for them twice but got nothing, however having prior knowledge that they didn't have an escort he risked a third scan and managed to paint the F117 as its bomb bay doors opened and got a lock. While he did manage to shoot the F117 down it was ultimately pointless as the bomber had already delivered its payload onto a command centre
@VincentNajger1
Ай бұрын
"Pointless"? Are you serious? That was probably the one shootdown that has had the longest and widest ranging consequences in world history, besides Gary Powers getting shot down in 1960 over the USSR in his U2. The wreckage of that F117 ended up in the Chinese embassy and the tech was reverse engineered and is the basis of China's entire stealth program. It also wrecked the 'invincible' reputation of stealth and provided a massive boost to morale. "pointless" ......geez.
@DjDolHaus86
Ай бұрын
@@VincentNajger1 it was shot down after releasing its payload, it completed its mission. It only ruined the invincible reputation amongst those who don't understand the realities of combat. The point remains that even though they knew when and where it was coming from they still couldn't get a lock until after it had done what it came to do. The tech might have been pawned off to China but all that meant was they were in possession of incomplete 20 year old technology that they'd have to spend another 5-10 years figuring out before applying to their own equipment. There's a reason why the US holds a monopoly on modern stealth aircraft, they got an unassailable head start and everyone else is still playing catchup.
@jswjr6001
Ай бұрын
My understanding is that it was not complacency as much as it was political constraints that did not allow them to fly over certain airspace, thus restraining them into certain flight profiles
@VincentNajger1
Ай бұрын
@@DjDolHaus86 your response reeks of cope and seethe.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Thanks DJ
Great mission ! Hate to think how many hours Cap spends making this content for us to enjoy ! Caps off to Cap !
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
I can tell you that I am pretty much in constant trouble with my wife for working too long!
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
23 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers>>> Mrs. Cap: *_"CHILL OUT, WOMAN!"_* {Giggity...😉🤭}
"The Raptor Way" - New T-Shirt design! Cap loves it when a plan comes together 🚬 Please note that no F-22 Raptors we harmed during the execution of this mission 😉 Video Valued by Valued Viewer - Fly Army! 🚁
8:45 Raptor has now MCAS.
Penetration tests should be called Giggety now as a standard.
i really hope this doesn't get demoneytised by YT-algorithm. then again it's only a sim, a game that explores probabilyties
@BarkerVancity
Ай бұрын
nothing i say goes through
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Nope, fully monetised YAY!
@josvercaemer264
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers YAY, keep up the good work👍👍👍 personally , i liked it when things go a bit of the rails, you know, the missions where you f'up and then start ranting towards one other. Comedy gold. thx
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
23 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers>>> I ABSOLUTELY LOVE watching flight sim videos on channels like your's, Kortana's, and Grim Reapers'. All that said: YUCK FOUTUBE. 'Nuff said.
@dfinlen
11 күн бұрын
Maybe try night time with low overcast and a full moon? Just a thought.
I would love to see some real-life event, modified with a "surprise" element at the end. Something like "oh no we didn't see they launched 5 flankers" or "we thought it was 100 drones, but its actually 100 ICBMs". as always, I leave the creative spark up to you.
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
They've recreated a lot of real life missions, modified with a lot of surprises just go through their catalog of videos
For future reference, I've heard many people say that the bestest chance of taking down Simba 1 v 1 in a dogfight is when he's refuelling. 😈 Not an hors d'oeuvre, but yeah ... probably worth testing!
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Seriously, I'll do it...
@Doodelz02
Ай бұрын
@grimreapers ROFL Think he'll be nervously looking over his shoulders ... forever? 🫡 #SewingDissent…inGRZsinceLikeToday!😎
@simba1113
29 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers some how I think you won't be the only one to test this as the others will want to duplicate your results "for Science " I believe it the quote commonly used.
@Doodelz02
28 күн бұрын
@@simba1113 Oh cwap! I didn't consider "for science" 🤓 Totally my bad! Hahahaha!
@Sabrelynx.
28 күн бұрын
@@grimreapers Cap, just let me know next time and I'll go from excited to dead as somehow simba still kills me.
I will never not enjoy hearing Cap say "rapt-OR".
WELL DONE, Cap and Crew! Great video.
The ABOS system you referenced being poison is actually an oxygen system because we didn't know what was causing hypoxia. It turned out to be a $3 valve in the flight suits that was sticking closed.
17:30 What manner of man are you that can summon up fire without flint or tinder? There are those who call me... Tim
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
23 күн бұрын
*_"It IS the rabbit!"_* 🤭
A nice little in, hit the enrichment plant, and out with a side of unplanned proportionality.
Both F-22 and B-21 Raider are essentials for next generations of air combat.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Yup
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
26 күн бұрын
Puy
To quote a famous Sportscaster: "They. Could. Go. All. The. Way!"
Thanks for the vid cap!
Great content! I need more!
Loved the daisy chain tactic, fun to watch!
@simba1113
29 күн бұрын
the team did really well pulling it off.
When I was a rookie I was taught when responding to a big fight/brawl to drive slow and run the siren so that everyone involved who was still effective had plenty of time to run away… I imagine the f-14 pilots with obsolete missles doing the same
@JackThelRipper
25 күн бұрын
😂😂 Run Boys It’s Da Policia
My Therapist has a Flight License, and at least in the US, one of the tests for that is flying entirely by instruments. If you use the windows you fail. The instructor/proctor is the co-pilot, so they can take over if you flub. But you have to be able to fly blind to fly legally, at least in this jurisdiction. Also pretty sure your HUD let you know you were upsidedown and falling while you were lost in those clouds.
At about 23:21 in this video: *_"Have a little FAITH, Baby!"_* - KELLY'S HEROES [1970] 😊
Nicely executed!! I think the highlight for me was how you guys quickly came together and executed Simba's exit strategy of like a chainsaw indian-run!! Perfect strategy by the People's Champ and brilliantly executed by all of the boys!! Damn fine flying as always grim reapers!!
Stuff like this is awesome. Love watching it!
I think a lot of the problems the Grim Reapers have is that they like to fly to close in formation (parade) and it's making your radar cross section way to big. I think spreading out at least 5 km or more from each other when flying stealth aircraft. I wrote this as you just said it doesn't matter in DCS. Lol
Thank you for reading the word "anyways" as "anyway". I fkn HATE it when people say "anyways".
@filmography3930
Ай бұрын
Uh, so, anyways..
@yeeeehaaawbuddy
29 күн бұрын
@@filmography3930 I used to have a boss that said "Acrosst" instead of "across". Actually he said it like this: "Acrawst" ....he was a redneck.
I imagine getting smacked with a big ol' anti-ship missile would hamper your chances of safely ejecting.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Yarp
@armastat
13 күн бұрын
flying into a cloud of canister shot doesn't make for a good day either.
TBH this mission is quite stupid. You deliberlty put all the sams away from the plant and made your self and easy route. I mean you are telling it is a vey important plant but with no form of on-site protection:))) In a more realistic scenario the sams should be place densly around the plant and you would need to first perform SEAD/DEAD, then there needs to be CIWS and ECM on the site (such as Tor, Majid, Krasukha 4) so you can not use GPS guided bombs that easily.
@Pigeon342
6 күн бұрын
It’s not that serious
You guys should use autopilot next time in the name of less blood pressure during formation flight :D
I wonder how many viewers and players here know who was the inventor of "frequency agile radar/radio like the lpr radar. Fun Trivia question
anti-ship missiles ftw
Stu is a clever goose. I like everything about this.
Great to watch mission!
Iran did get SU-35, so there should be a new mission with SU 35.
I love the word "Discipline and Teamwork"..... Great set you guys......
@meanman6992
Ай бұрын
That’s more than a word, some might call it a phrase even.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Rarely hear those words here...
@pahtar7189
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers: Unless it's something like, "You don't understand teamwork and will be facing discipline."
According to my dad [who spent many decades in the middle east]; They pretty much all hate all of their neighbors, but its usually a tribal thing, not nationality (as the national borders do not represent the tribal lands AT ALL). But, they're usually happy to try to put that aside because they hate Israel and/or America much, much more. Isn't it nice here in the western world where I (in England) only 'hate' the French and the Scotts as a [now] friendly rivalry.
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
Things have changed a lot in the Middle East in the past 10 years. Especially after the Abraham accords. In fact I believe it was Jordan and Saudi Arabia who shot down the majority of those missiles that Iran fired at Israel. Times are changing. Which is a reason Hamas launched their attack because they were afraid that Saudi Arabia was going to normalize relations with Israel which they're pretty close to doing already
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
What an absolute nightmare.
@sir_vix
26 күн бұрын
I recommend listening to episode 105 of 'The Red Line'. It is an excellent international security podcast, and that particular episode focuses on Iran; interviewing a number of subject matter experts. One of the most significant take-aways, is that the Iranian people by and large are far more progressive and cosmopolitan than their government would suggest, at least in urban regions. However, they are also generally patriotic. One of the analysts on that episode suggested that the revolution would likely have collapsed if not for their war with Iraq, given the regime's extensive unpopularity and the raft of crisis they were undergoing, and furthermore, that an outside force attacking it likely result in a similar outcome of propping up the struggling regime.
Saudi and Jordan intercepted most rockets and drones heading toward Israel from Yemen and Iran
@Dawson-vn8nq
25 күн бұрын
no, us did.
Would love to participate in one of your wargames, I can refuel and am comfortable with all things Raptor. In your Discord as well, how can one get involved?
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
Well if you're a donator they frequently have donator missions
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
DM in GR discord plz.
I'm now waiting for the air-to-air mission using Exocets. How big is the warhead on one of those things again?
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Massive!
@hanrockabrand95
Ай бұрын
Hypersonic is just the arms race the public is allowed to see. The real competition behind the scenes is to see what other things you can use anti-shipping missiles against.
Cap all the my new ideas now that f22s now have French anti shipping missiles
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
lol
Nice - Good Video :)
Just read Argentina bought some F-16s from Denmark. F16 vs Falklands Eurofighter please!
My cat, and I found this very enjoyable.
As you mentioned this is slightly futuristic with The B-21's, you guys should have had Chrome Raptor's ;)
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
You could just imagine them as B-2?
@Anarchy_420
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers lol nah I do enough imagining already
@Anarchy_420
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers talking about imagining lol bc it's no longer imaginary*. Super Raptor coming soon? I kno CH is a busy person however this is one is very sorely missed/needed🙏
@Anarchy_420
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers New stealth coating slightly reduces RCS and drastically reduces IR signature while allowing The F-22 to accelerate and maintain higher speeds without the worry of melting/compromising stealth coating, lol you already have The AIM-260, definitely needed HMD, and several other improvements and additions, stealth IRST Pod, stealth drop tanks and pylons, and so on!👍
@Anarchy_420
Ай бұрын
@@grimreapers You guys working on The Mako Missile yet?
Nice mission all, no collisions with tanker, bombers or each other GR got it right, must be practising a lot.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Only took eight years :)
@BoraHorzaGobuchul
Ай бұрын
...on the gr practice server!
@simba1113
29 күн бұрын
@@BoraHorzaGobuchul yes the grim reapers stone burner server.
Very well played gentlemen, impressed. Love your videos, can't wait to start finishing up all my crap I've bought to get into dcs, all the furniture and chair, etc etc makes it slow going, I'm not even going to say how much I've spent TOTAL on equipment and planes and etc and haven't even fired up my new PC yet, wanna get it all together first, I've got a blown back and knees so it's taking me ages to go and finish this chair and stand I got for it, not even sure if they'll be compatible yet haha, but I've got a lot of learning to do to be hopefully invited to an open game sometime, I run servers for a living (Linux variants) so it's kinda fun, I'd imagine these bigger games eat up cpu and memory like crazy but I'm gonna see how bad when I start my own just to toy around and see if a sizable vps works or if it'll need a dedicated server. I'm thinking the dedicated for big games but it is what it is!
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
I'm running a fairly middle of the ground gaming desktop, it was top-of-the-line a year and a half ago when I bought it. But it flies these missions very easily
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
Now when they're running these big ones they're all on a dedicated server. But as a individual DCS player she don't need that at all unless you're wanting to host you know 10 or 20 people
@okcstormchaser
Ай бұрын
Awesome, glad to hear you're able to play with a not so top of the line computer, even though I went a little crazy on it I didn't buy the highest end at all, so cool deal. And yeah, kinda figured it'd require an actual dedicated server vs a vps for instance, thanks for the info.
Perfidious Albion.
Pilot Dory, best pilot!
Nice Hop Boyz!!!😎
Wow you guys have come a long way it's been 3 months that was an impressive professional mission plan
I'm in a Raptor. I'm just looking for things to shoot. Thats the spirit!
😮that was amazing
This video is great :)
@ Cap, I understand your views of flying in cloud. I served in the RAF between 1986 and 2013 and in the mid 90s I was part of a security detail flying on a VC10 cargo aircraft which had to be refueled in flight. We were in full cloud and peering out of the fuselage windows looking for the refueller when out of the gloom emerged a Tristar tanker on our starboard wingtip, also in full cloud. Needless to say all went well, but to see two large aircraft in formation at that range in cloud was somewhat concerning for those of us who didn't fly.
If i remember SA is the voice of the middle east for Iran proxies and their relationship with Jordan isn't as bad.
@SpamSucker
Ай бұрын
Jordan helped to intercept some of the Iranian drones & cruise missiles in the recent attack on Israel… I believe Saudi did too. Not sure what you mean by “voice of the Middle East for Iran proxies” but Saudi was the main (external) force opposing Yemen’s Houthi rebels until 2021 or so. Iran proxies being Shia Muslims and SA essentially leading the Sunni Muslim world, theirs is a cool relationship at best, each jockeying for influence.
*_"Make sure you got your radars off guys, we're doing a stealth mission, remember."_* Says CAP as they are all flying in formation with A BIG NON-STEALTHY KC-135 STRATOTANKER. 🤭🤭🤭
You should have made the target an embassy for realism
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
oof
@357smallblock
27 күн бұрын
Or a wedding
I come to think of a thing, if this were to be real, imagine beeing the boom operator looking out at 7 raptors in formation to fuel. Id feel mighty safe!
I've been to the Iraqi enrichment site. There's a village in the crater (for lack of a better term) now.
21:21: ...I think I _can_ see them. Two specks on the middle right, between cloud layers, visually right along the top edge of the left half of that thin cloud.
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Tomcats are big.
Teal?... be careful Supercap! 🤣
is there a link where we can download your missions ? awesome video like always cap
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Most GR missions require specially edited version of DCS mods to work, so if I shared the missions they wouldn't work properly anyways. The fully core-game missions we do I'm happy to share.
Can you use the space defense system, curious think that would be pretty cool.
They already tried this with one of the stealth bombers. Iran shot it down. They apologised profusely. They didn’t realise it was invisible. Maybe it was Serbia🙄
In what sense could friendly/unfriendly commercial aviation be used as an early warning system by a defending country and its allies? I guess stealth missions would always happen at night and at altitudes very different from typical commercial aviation, but I guess it can't be entirely forgotten about in the planning of such missions?
@Wyomingchief
Ай бұрын
Well commercial aircraft don't carry the type of Radars to detect other aircraft. They have tcas systems or Tcan can't remember, which is a proximity alert. But no commercial aircraft can't be used as an early warning unless they were actually able to visualize the aircraft. And at night time that's not going to happen because stealth aircraft especially bombers fly way higher than commercial aircraft
9:13 There is a plaque in my school and a cross made of shell casings in my church dedicated to a student who’s helicopter crashed in bad weather in Afghanistan. I believe that is the correct story, but yes, clouds are dangerous
You can sing babyshark all you want. ...Still have no idea what it sounds like
I’m so ready for this patch so I can make my personal citizen to my likeness
Cap, I know you are always concerned about us not being entertained by night missions but we do like the atmosphere of other times of day. Dusk and night time raids have a different vibe. Plus seeing the tracers coming out of the jungle to get the B-52s was cool.
Operation Ivy is pretty amazing also
The F-22 is so badass
This would make a great Tom Clancy chapter!
TU22 reportedly shot down by SA2, now thats worthy of some investigation.
Good fun mission. It's almost like they practice on the Stone bridge server 😅
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
Agreed
You aren't in IFR and the weather isn't IFR....its IMC!!! IFR just means flying by instruments!
That raf livery suits the raptor
Samuel L. Jackson.
Surely they would put their absolute best SAM battery right next to the nuclear facility, they know that the West would figure out where it is anyway so they would protect it with their best. It would be layered too.
Out of curiosity could you do a video of this flying over Moscow to drop leaflets. I always thought it would be funny to say hello to Russia
F-35's just went into Iran with absolutely no issue.
Very curious about that story of you flying into IMC with an instructor on board. They shouldn't have allowed that to even come close to happening. Mine would get jumpy if I came within a few meters of a tiny wispy translucent one on a sunny day.
if a B-22 or Raptor launched an unpowered missile (basically a glide bomb) from 200 miles OUTSIDE the border of Iran, it could easily reach the center of Iran in less than 15 minutes.
In and Out Expidite...Never to be seen! (IOE)
Are B-2's not usually flown at night when there is active SAM defenses?
Ahhh, all the way and back home again🤣
You should do this with these bombers on the battle of iwo jima. I imagine those bombs might do better
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
rgr
I do not know how you would pull it off -- or even if you could -- but it would be great if you could do some kind of crossover video with the character _"Grandpa Buff"_ from the *HABITUAL LINECROSSER* KZread Channel.
Great mission again! Feels like a cheat code. LOL
Fun Fact: George Michael sang “Last Christmas” then he actually DIED ON CHRISTMAS DAY! Coincidence?! I think not…..🧐
@dexlab7539
Ай бұрын
🤔
@MikeN-cs8qe
Ай бұрын
@@dexlab7539 Watch the whole video.
IRL? Alllllll the way
This one is very nice. A milk run
No plan best plan!
what raptor mod is this ? my enhancement mod doesnt look anthything like this
@grimreapers
Ай бұрын
It's just the normal version 2 mod with a couple of flight model tweaks.