THAAD, Patriot & NASAMS vs US Carrier Group: Which Is The Ultimate Layered Defense? | DCS

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Today we look at two different methods of US layered anti-ballistic missile air defense. We test and compare the Army's THAAD, Patriot, NASAMS, C-RAM 4-layer system against the Navy SM-3, SM-6, SM-2, ESSM and CIWS 5-layer system. As part of the test we fire more than 50 Chinese DF-26 ballistic missiles at each system.
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0:00 Overview
2:28 Weapon Technical Details
8:01 Scenario Details
10:00 Predictions
11:08 50 Ballistic Missiles vs US Navy Carrier Strike Group
16:01 50 Ballistic Missiles vs THAAD, Patriot & NASAMS-3
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  • @foxglow6798
    @foxglow679815 күн бұрын

    Hi Cap! I was wondering if there was any way to do a mass JDAM strike from a B-1 or B-2 with individually-targeted munitions to see how many targets a single bomber can destroy in a base (after SEAD destroys SAM radars and SHORAD of course.) I got the idea from the video “B-2 drops 80 JDAMS” from about 9 years ago here on KZread which show the insane accuracy and efficiency of each guided bomb. Could even use glide kits perhaps?

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    They've done this many times, JDAM it's exactly the Target that it's targeted at. They've done it literally dozens of times

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    I've done this recently, let me see if I can find vid.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    I think this one was a mass JDAM attack from B-2/21? kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXZrtst9hZzgk9Y.html

  • @foxglow6798

    @foxglow6798

    14 күн бұрын

    @@grimreapers thanks so much Cap! Your videos have been my #1 source of entertainment for over a year now and I love each one.

  • @biged6336

    @biged6336

    13 күн бұрын

    I just seen a story about a marine designed plane OV bronco they said it was the grandfather of the A10. Have y’all ever heard of it? I had never seen it before.

  • @BlackMesa322
    @BlackMesa32215 күн бұрын

    OMG ITS CAP! Hope you are doing better now.

  • @5Andysalive

    @5Andysalive

    15 күн бұрын

    might be an older recording. Hope the same of course but without rushing it... Most viewers would probably survive a few weeks without daily videos.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574

    @valuedhumanoid6574

    15 күн бұрын

    I believe this was prerecorded so GR would have some content to release when he was gone. But it's still good to hear his voice

  • @Matt_Rides

    @Matt_Rides

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@valuedhumanoid6574what's happened to Cap?

  • @valuedhumanoid6574

    @valuedhumanoid6574

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Matt_Rides He's sick. He said a few videos ago he's going to be hospitalized for a time. Don't know what's wrong, don't want to speculate.

  • @Matt_Rides

    @Matt_Rides

    14 күн бұрын

    @@valuedhumanoid6574 ahhh I think it's the cancer he's been fighting. I remember seeing a while that he had cancer. Hope it's not that and he's OK.

  • @myyoutubename152
    @myyoutubename15215 күн бұрын

    THAAD is a huge addition. Great work!!

  • @Anarchy_420

    @Anarchy_420

    14 күн бұрын

    Yup! Now all we need is Enduring Shield!👍

  • @Doodelz02
    @Doodelz0215 күн бұрын

    Fingers crossed all went well Cap. The boys did "beyond brilliantly" filling in for the past couple days. ("Helicopter hill-top parking" surprisingly similar to roof-top Thaad, btw... except more left-over 'copter bits!) And yeah, "really bloody well done" here. Such good info and expertise from CH! No idea how he pulls that off.

  • @pazsion

    @pazsion

    15 күн бұрын

    i really liked the ground crew pov they did on that video too... and even included getting shot at by infantry. the gunship was terrifying.

  • @bearcatracing007

    @bearcatracing007

    15 күн бұрын

    No left over bits, it's called weight reduction 😂

  • @Shubhabratabanerjee
    @Shubhabratabanerjee15 күн бұрын

    Your passion for DCS never ceases to amaze !

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @spinmaster4348
    @spinmaster434815 күн бұрын

    5:03 That’s how sm-3 deploys its kill vehicle, the “green” part on thaad is the kill vehicle itself, the nosecone is but a fairing protecting the ir seeker underneath

  • @mserfontein5868
    @mserfontein586815 күн бұрын

    Welcome back Cap!

  • @Netbug
    @Netbug15 күн бұрын

    16:52 "WAAAGNERRRR!" (I'll never stop saying it)

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    oof, not allowed to say that any more.

  • @nuclearTANK

    @nuclearTANK

    14 күн бұрын

    ​@@grimreapersThe ppl want it CAP, you must give them what the ppl want

  • @kushangchu1506
    @kushangchu150615 күн бұрын

    It's crazy how many SAMs were launched were launched in that short final phase of the land battery attempt, so much so that some PAC-3s were getting hit by the NASAMs on the way up. The red entries on the left-hand side log @ 24:00, 25:06 and 25:12. Mindblowing.

  • @randymoyer7871
    @randymoyer787115 күн бұрын

    I used to build modules for the THAAD radar system.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Awesome :)

  • @Delta36A1
    @Delta36A17 күн бұрын

    One slight correction SM-3 is by far a larger and more capable missle than THADD rather than the other way around. An SM-3 Block I weighs 1,500 kg (3,300 lbs) and THADD is 900 kg (2,000 lb). Range and max altitude also are heavily in the SM-3s favor with the SM-3 being designed for exoatmospheric midcourse intercepts of ballistic missiles while THADD as its name implies is designed for high altitude terminal intercepts.

  • @shveylien7401
    @shveylien740115 күн бұрын

    The 120 degree doctrine is (in my theory) due to radar emission interference. If you point a radar at a coms antenna, even an antenna tuned for a completely different frequency, you're still broadcasting HUGE unclassified MW of power at a receiver who normally listens to uW. So you can either go above telephone pole style (which is easier seen from the ground), or go directional, so you can have Command and Control coms on the inside of the circle, and radars pointed outside the circle. By not transmitting towards your own equipment, you don't have to program azimuth broadcast block angles and break locks when the bandit flies behind your own equipment.

  • @sebfettel

    @sebfettel

    15 күн бұрын

    Na, its the difference between defensive technology and offensive technology

  • @wilson2455
    @wilson245515 күн бұрын

    welcome back Cap. Hope all is well ? You'll be happy to know in the previous vid, only 1 Huey was taken out by 'green on green' action. Last words from pilot, " Ouch, bye.. ",

  • @cassius_eu5970
    @cassius_eu597012 күн бұрын

    I know DCS is mostly an air combat simulator, but videos like these and the naval battles are by far my favourites. :D

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx66615 күн бұрын

    Hi Cap. Hope you're feeling better. That was a good little test. Nice work CH.

  • @danarogers3489
    @danarogers348915 күн бұрын

    You sound much better, Cap. Proud to be a valued viewer.

  • @Godsjudgement12
    @Godsjudgement1212 күн бұрын

    actually patriot mse missiles have their own radar seekers for fine tuning when closer to target, and that makes it so too many missiles dont hit the same TBM, we fire a set number of missiles per TBM to achieve 100% pK. -patriot operator

  • @dougroberts3840
    @dougroberts384015 күн бұрын

    CH does some fantastic work with these mods, keep up the great work.

  • @saintuk70
    @saintuk7015 күн бұрын

    Always love CH's work, just awesome.

  • @dylandarnell3657
    @dylandarnell365715 күн бұрын

    We _are_ doing very well, Cap, thanks for asking. Wonderfully well, even. Glad to hear you back in action.

  • @SeanChYT
    @SeanChYT15 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the video, Cap!

  • @aatwinner1377
    @aatwinner137715 күн бұрын

    CH is a blessing to all of us

  • @colinboneham7387
    @colinboneham738715 күн бұрын

    Glad your felling better Cap, & great work again CH, the THAAD is defo a good addition to DCS.

  • @John_SlideRule_Bullay
    @John_SlideRule_Bullay15 күн бұрын

    Great job with the modeling CH! Get Well Soon Cap!

  • @dennisvandermarkt8263
    @dennisvandermarkt826315 күн бұрын

    Glad you're back cap

  • @cadetrenew
    @cadetrenew14 күн бұрын

    Good to see ya back, Cap. The boys did good in your absence but it isn't quite a GR video without the Cap!

  • @jeoverv
    @jeoverv15 күн бұрын

    This is cool, I live just south of Bodø, and Cap fired a ballistic missile from the roof of the civilian terminal at Bodø Airport 😅 👍

  • @brianjohnson8725
    @brianjohnson872515 күн бұрын

    CAP!!! Happy to see you back! Hope you're doing better!

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea944014 күн бұрын

    I wonder if anyone has ever tried putting a hotdog on a stick in front of a THAAD radar to cook it for science?

  • @Max-lf3tx
    @Max-lf3tx14 күн бұрын

    Does the integration of long range fires, advanced air defence systems, and lasers bring back the concept of land ships?

  • @kenhelmers2603
    @kenhelmers260311 күн бұрын

    Once again CH makes GREAT toys! :) Glad to hear you Cap, you sound good.

  • @mrlodwick
    @mrlodwick15 күн бұрын

    Hope you getting well Capt!

  • @ShadyRiver-xu7kc
    @ShadyRiver-xu7kc15 күн бұрын

    your back Cap yay!!

  • @chrisstopher2277
    @chrisstopher227715 күн бұрын

    Great to hear a healthy sounding Cap on this video.

  • @wilfredodiaz3445
    @wilfredodiaz344515 күн бұрын

    Welcome back cap

  • @jamesslusher417
    @jamesslusher41715 күн бұрын

    yay caps back everyone did okay channel is okay take care of yourself

  • @TheCab1970
    @TheCab197010 күн бұрын

    Well, i'll be... Welcome to Norway, Cap. Greetings from Oslo. 🇳🇴

  • @CombatWombat7.62mm
    @CombatWombat7.62mm15 күн бұрын

    Can the ships replenish their missiles after an attack at sea or do they have to return to port? Great video Cap! Get well soon

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    In game they actually can not re-arm at all yet.

  • @dhwave1
    @dhwave114 күн бұрын

    Oh cool, welcome back. Your boys did fine but we missed your voice :)

  • @jasonverhagen5253
    @jasonverhagen525315 күн бұрын

    Awesome

  • @user-ft2zc5or9d
    @user-ft2zc5or9d15 күн бұрын

    According to Wiki SM-3 (depending on the variant) has a flight ceiling of 500 miles.. thats like 2 million feet lol a bit farther than the 330,000 feet of the SM-3 here in the game

  • @Dawnbandit1

    @Dawnbandit1

    15 күн бұрын

    Yeah, the SM-3 Blk IIA has an insanely high max altitude.

  • @johnsilver9338

    @johnsilver9338

    14 күн бұрын

    That's for SM-3 Block Ia/Ib. Block II on the other hand can reach double of that or more as they need to intercept ICBMs with 2000km apogees.

  • @tomlonguet2060
    @tomlonguet206015 күн бұрын

    Altitude max of SM3 is wayyyyy more than this. It's like way over 200km so like 600 000ft

  • @jeremylove6594
    @jeremylove659415 күн бұрын

    The army navy game we didn't know we needed

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    13 күн бұрын

    Yup and we are all addicted now 😂

  • @jamesscott2894
    @jamesscott289414 күн бұрын

    Only one battery is in service, but the Armyvis getting their own ground launched SM-6 and Tomahawk launchers (the Typhon Missile System, basically a Mk41 VLS in a trailer...) Granted it's a single battery with a max salvo of 6 missiles before needing reloaded, but if we can hypothetical 50 DF-26 vs 6x THAAD 6x PAC-3, and 6x NASAM, we can prob add 6x SM-6 battery as well lol... Wonder how much that would impact the scenario?

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_42014 күн бұрын

    LTAMDS has 360 coverage👍

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    I think that's just for Patriot missiles?

  • @Anarchy_420

    @Anarchy_420

    14 күн бұрын

    @@grimreapers I believe they're all linked together

  • @Anarchy_420

    @Anarchy_420

    12 күн бұрын

    @@grimreapers Now you just need Enduring Shield and M-Shorad!

  • @MrWadeant
    @MrWadeant11 күн бұрын

    In the CV CIC some one screams VAMPIRE VAMPIRE VAMPIRE! And faces go Pale thought the CSG!

  • @jameshewitt8828
    @jameshewitt882811 күн бұрын

    Up on the roof Thinking of that song

  • @barriemclellan1423
    @barriemclellan142315 күн бұрын

    Cap. Hope you're doing well. The boy's did a great job covering you, but you were missed

  • @lylemiller345
    @lylemiller34515 күн бұрын

    throwing everything at us including the kitchen sink from the one in the house.

  • @Kevin-hb7yq
    @Kevin-hb7yq15 күн бұрын

    Cool Stuff! ..but can you do it with an F-86 Sabre? 😉 Get well Cap! 😀

  • @brianjeffcoat5974
    @brianjeffcoat597415 күн бұрын

    Cap is back!

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks Brian!

  • @superbudegu
    @superbudegu15 күн бұрын

    The SM-3 is bigger and goes farther than thaad in reality. At least the SM-3 blk. IIa

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    The other versions as well

  • @myke5696
    @myke569615 күн бұрын

    Well land based units can store more reloads. That's one reason the Chinese are so nervous about the new Marine units with antiship missiles.

  • @mthomas6
    @mthomas615 күн бұрын

    Good evening gentleman, I would like to make another request if you all havent done this yet. Scenario : the Movie Fail Safe with Henry Fonda and cast. I would like Cap and his team to split up into 2 groups. I would like Cap to command the Bombing group of Convair YB-58A-1-CF Hustlers, and Simba and the rest of the team fly the MiG-21s sent in to intercept these vindicators from delivering there payload. if the mig 21 isnt the right choice, you can try using the french Mirage of that era. also needd to be included are the missle systems of that era based around the city as last defense. I thought your team would love this tactical scenario. Keep up the great work guys. Mike from Chandler AZ

  • @warbuzzard7167

    @warbuzzard7167

    7 күн бұрын

    There are no B-58 Hustlers in DCS.

  • @mthomas6

    @mthomas6

    7 күн бұрын

    @@warbuzzard7167 we can change that to a group of B52-G Stratofortress instead.

  • @rjansandnes3325
    @rjansandnes332515 күн бұрын

    Yeay… Bodø❤️

  • @Davros-vi4qg
    @Davros-vi4qg15 күн бұрын

    Navy vs Army… is it rugger, is it ‘Football’, no it’s robot wars 😝

  • @speeddemon2262
    @speeddemon226215 күн бұрын

    I'd love to see Ground Based Interceptor modded into DCS

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    What do you think the Patriot and THAAD are? They are ground-based interceptors and these are mods for DCS. What are you talking about

  • @kadabrium
    @kadabrium14 күн бұрын

    25:10 "PAC-3 has been hit by NASAMS"

  • @SuperAd1980
    @SuperAd198015 күн бұрын

    a 3 minute and 21 second un-skippable Ad... KZread are REALLY taking the p155!

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Wow! Well done for waiting.

  • @KaiDidumaNx
    @KaiDidumaNx15 күн бұрын

    Im more impressed by how fast billion dollars went in smoke. Amazing

  • @Musix4me-Clarinet
    @Musix4me-Clarinet15 күн бұрын

    I do not know anything about the TacView, but, it looked like it was saying that there was some friendly fire in there? Was that true?

  • @SmithandWesson22A

    @SmithandWesson22A

    15 күн бұрын

    THAAD hitting Patriots

  • @DeltaV64
    @DeltaV6415 күн бұрын

    Great stuff, but shouldn't the anti ballistic missiles be positioning themselves directly in the path of the incoming ballistic missiles ? It seems like they are trying to hit from the side which seems odd.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    I'm guessing you didn't watch the video? Because that's exactly what is happening. The ballistic missiles were fired at the naval units. And then they were fired at a ground base that had the defense system right behind it. I'm not sure what video you watched

  • @BobH809
    @BobH80915 күн бұрын

    I know you said about the layout of the defensive land based missiles would not make a difference, but... would you try and set them apart a little more, maybe into three sections. The deconfliction of the defensive network must be harder with them all together. Or is it just that the defensive DCS setup as you have it in this video would make no difference to the success rate?

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    In real life they would probably be several kilometers apart. DCS treats it as the same so it would not make any difference how far you put them apart realistically

  • @jamison884
    @jamison88415 күн бұрын

    Hey Cap. The SM-6 is deployed by the Army via the Typhon system and is the intermediate range missile currently in service to assist Patriot. NASAMS isn't actually deployed in the big US military and as far as I'm aware, is deployed in Washington DC and then Sweden (I believe) and Ukraine. The new Typon missile launchers fired both SM-6 and Tomahawks, and the capability is massive since the US recently deployed the first version of their new integrated fire control sensor network, where they're deliberately designing all systems (all sensors/radars/data collection points from land/sea/air/space assets) to be collected and used together across all weapon systems. Theoretically, this means an F-35 can use its thermal imaging sensor to detect a ballistic missile launch, while also being picked up by a satellite picking up that ballistic missile launch, and then any radars from ships or ground-based radards between the ballistic missile's launch point and target can be used by the Aegis/THAAD/Patriot/Ground-Based Midcourse Defense/Typhon/any other system to then shoot down the incoming missile. I hope you're doing well Cap.

  • @jeoverv

    @jeoverv

    15 күн бұрын

    NASAMS stood originally for Norwegian Adapted Surface to Air Missile System, developed from US components like missiles, launchers and radars, but some software and the Fire Distribution Center FDC are, I believe, Norwegian. I don't think Sweden has got any of these, but we do of course in Norway. As for Cap; I think this video was made before he left the building... Fingers crossed and best wishes 🤞

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Thanks J

  • @jamison884

    @jamison884

    14 күн бұрын

    @@jeoverv I admit, I was lazy as hell. I should have thought about it for a bit more, N for Norway. Thank you!

  • @williamhumber5890
    @williamhumber589015 күн бұрын

    Out of curiosity what was the PK of the THAAD interceptors? Based on the Tacview it looked pretty terrible.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    Currently it's 100% in real life.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    It looked like about 60-70% in game? Not sure. Not sure why so many misses?

  • @williamhumber5890

    @williamhumber5890

    14 күн бұрын

    @@grimreapers Ah ok, that seems pretty reasonable. It just looked like it was much lower from the video but sometimes that can be deceptive just "eyeballing it". Thanks for the response!

  • @poohbakke
    @poohbakke15 күн бұрын

    Cap back👍

  • @Type09V
    @Type09V7 күн бұрын

    Maybe also do a ballistic+cruise missile time on target version if possible?

  • @nietkees6906
    @nietkees690612 күн бұрын

    I am pretty sure that SM-3 would have a higher max altitude than THAAD. SM-3 does exo atmospheric interceptions while THAAD does endo atmospheric ones.

  • @cyronader
    @cyronader15 күн бұрын

    SM3 has a flight ceiling of 550 miles and speed of mach 13 whereas THAAD has a flight ceiling of 93 miles and speed of mach 8.....that is if wiki is to be believed.

  • @patricktho6546

    @patricktho6546

    15 күн бұрын

    Flight ceiling of 550 miles? That's higher than quite a lot of sattelites

  • @cyronader

    @cyronader

    15 күн бұрын

    @@patricktho6546 well it's designed to take on satellites and ballistic missiles coming down from the exosphere

  • @thepatriot676

    @thepatriot676

    15 күн бұрын

    Yeah…. That’s WIKI

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@thepatriot676 And it is likely true. It is an exo atmospheric weapon. It isn’t that hard to go mach 13 when you are in space.

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@cyronaderNot even coming down from the exosphere, but just in the exosphere. It can intercept them in the middle of their course.

  • @Netbug
    @Netbug15 күн бұрын

    Huh? How long was Cap gone for? I just had a cold for a couple of days.

  • @CheapSushi
    @CheapSushi15 күн бұрын

    I wonder, with so many targets coming in in a "blob" or "cluster", does it actually make the radar have a harder time picking out each object to hit?

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    Not at all, not with the amount of power Behind These radars and they have the Fidelity to pick up individual targets

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    I don't know, but if one crosses in front of another, surely that would confuse a radar?

  • @markscion
    @markscion15 күн бұрын

    Welcome back Cap. The boys did a thing in your absence. Hope your bowels did not climb through your next and throttle your brain, because that's also totally a thing

  • @Maltechr
    @Maltechr5 күн бұрын

    Just a weird question.. But isnt there only two Flight III's in service?

  • @jouniairplanevideos
    @jouniairplanevideos9 күн бұрын

    What about the Dutch SMART-L-ER?

  • @lohrtom
    @lohrtom15 күн бұрын

    Can you do a Cold War version? PAC1 + HAWK + Chaparal + Roland vs a virtual shitload of Soviet missiles?

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    All the missiles were get through because they weren't designed for anti-ballistic use, contrary to what you may have heard those were all anti-aircraft missile systems

  • @thepatriot676
    @thepatriot67615 күн бұрын

    Whatever happened to THAAD-ER?

  • @Netbug
    @Netbug15 күн бұрын

    Map looks great at high altitude.

  • @johannbezuidenhout2976
    @johannbezuidenhout297613 күн бұрын

    You need to add the mim-23 Hawk system at some point. It's still in service and is being used in the Ukraine war.

  • @MaXwellFalstein
    @MaXwellFalstein15 күн бұрын

    THAAD seemed to be too nerfed in this simulation. The gap between THAAD and Patriot is too large. The solution is more THAAD intercepting earlier in the enemy parabola.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Agreed

  • @nuclearTANK
    @nuclearTANK14 күн бұрын

    THAAD-ER is a multi-stage missile

  • @t.r.4496
    @t.r.449613 күн бұрын

    I don't think Cap was sick. I believe he hit the pub and was hungover. Now I maybe wrong but he got better awful quick.

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    13 күн бұрын

    Haha unfortunately Cap get sick all time…feel sorry for him

  • @Ultima115
    @Ultima11515 күн бұрын

    The patriot has a missile that fills the gap between Thaad and patriot its pac-3 mse

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    At 6:20 in the video you can see that they actually modelled PAC-3 MSE

  • @whousley
    @whousley15 күн бұрын

    So THAAD is a kinetic energy weapon?

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    yes

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    Any missile is a kinetic energy weapon. Either by using hit to kill or by shrapnell.

  • @docauger2032
    @docauger203215 күн бұрын

    And that's what the US relies on for our nuclear missle defense

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    You do realize this is a simulation based on nothing but conjecture? 😂 the real system,THAAD literally has a 100% interception rate at this point

  • @christopherchartier3017
    @christopherchartier301715 күн бұрын

    Almost makes you wonder why they don’t just replace THAAD and Patriot with SM-type myssiles

  • @totalNERD-eo7wx

    @totalNERD-eo7wx

    15 күн бұрын

    They are - there is a land based mk41 VLS system under development

  • @totalNERD-eo7wx

    @totalNERD-eo7wx

    15 күн бұрын

    Not to mention AEGIS Ashore

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    Because they are designed for different missions.

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    @@totalNERD-eo7wx There is also a sea based PAC-3 MSE missile under development. So the replacement could also go the other way... In reality they will not replace eachother but will complement each other on both land and sea.

  • @totalNERD-eo7wx

    @totalNERD-eo7wx

    12 күн бұрын

    @@nietkees6906 Ah, just looked at the specs and it seems like PAC-3 MSE is better than the SM-2MR in almost every way. Of course, PAC-3 cannot compete with SM-6 and SM-3. It would make a cheap complement to the SM-3.

  • @gcwyatt
    @gcwyatt14 күн бұрын

    For SCIENCE!

  • @hughmungus2760
    @hughmungus276015 күн бұрын

    2 things. Ballistic missiles like the DF26 are designed to be used at 2000km+ range, meaning that at 200km they would be firing at incredibly high parabolas. Reaching well over 1000km in altitude and basically coming down vertically on the target. MRBM type missiles like the DF26 would carry decoys which would greatly complicate interception up until the very last couple dozen km.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    And in reality, nobody has proven that they can hit a moving Naval Target from thousands of miles away with a Hypersonic vehicle. Take things with a grain of salt😂😂

  • @hughmungus2760

    @hughmungus2760

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Wyomingchief satellite guidance is a thing.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Fair point. Currently limited to 300,000ft in DCS.

  • @MrNoobed
    @MrNoobed15 күн бұрын

    Caaap

  • @hardrockuniversity7283
    @hardrockuniversity728315 күн бұрын

    Glad to hear your dulcet snark again Cap, get healthy soon!

  • @ivensbass1592
    @ivensbass159212 күн бұрын

    SM-3 is a much better missile than thaad regarding interception. Don't know why in DCS it's different.

  • @everypitchcounts4875
    @everypitchcounts487513 күн бұрын

    Aegis ashore would be better at targeting

  • @Filthy_Morgan
    @Filthy_Morgan4 күн бұрын

    Your using Norway as a test ground 🥲🥲

  • @gutstompenrocker
    @gutstompenrocker15 күн бұрын

    The hit % for THAAD was pathetic. It should hit at least 35% or don't use it.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    Well theoretically it should hit 100% because that's what it's done so far. But again this is a computer mod based on publicly available information

  • @gutstompenrocker

    @gutstompenrocker

    14 күн бұрын

    @@Wyomingchief I know. I watched some of the thermal intercepts and is amazing.

  • @johnoliver4739
    @johnoliver473915 күн бұрын

    With a battle group you have multiple targets, missiles towards each of them, kind of spreads just a little, the land target, you have all of those systems protecting 1 building, missiles lining up, same targets, thaad and patriot dont get used, at least very rarely, to protect 1 single target. Usually an entire target area, multiple facilities, infrastructure, an air field with many craft long runway, etc.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    14 күн бұрын

    You also realize that this is a computer simulation? And based on that and based on the way DCS works it doesn't really matter. This is a simulation based on publicly available information, and it's not meant to simulate or be conclusive to what the real thing can do😂

  • @adrianpaz472
    @adrianpaz47215 күн бұрын

    Just a small tiny clarification: The THAAD is FAAAARRR HUGELLY LESS CAPABLE than the SM-3.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    15 күн бұрын

    No because it's not designed to do the same thing.

  • @adrianpaz472

    @adrianpaz472

    15 күн бұрын

    @@Wyomingchief Correct. The SM-3 has shown the ability intercept ICBM type targets. Thats 8 Km/s targets (~mach 24). While the THAAD is no capable of that. THAAD has been tested up to 2.5 Km/s targets (~mach 8).

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    ​@@adrianpaz472But on the other hand SM-3 can't intercept short range ballistic missiles, while THAAD can. They were designed for a different mission.

  • @adrianpaz472

    @adrianpaz472

    12 күн бұрын

    @@nietkees6906 correct, but that’s where the SM-6 come in with better characteristics than the THAAD. There is a region at high altitude where the THAAD could perform better than the SM-3 and SM-6, but overall these two missiles are far better than THAAD.

  • @nietkees6906

    @nietkees6906

    12 күн бұрын

    @@adrianpaz472 SM-6 is not better than THAAD. SM-6 has likely less range against ballistic missiles than THAAD and also is not hit to kill. Even PAC-3 MSE is better against ballistic missiles than SM-6. SM-6 is however more versatile as it can also intercept aircraft and cruise missiles at very long ranges. And it can even be used in a surface attack mode.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid657415 күн бұрын

    I lose 42% of my paycheck to pay my income tax. Now I know why. $12 million for one SM3 really drives it home.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Yarp...

  • @ryabow
    @ryabow15 күн бұрын

    3:55 Russian systems also tend to frag their own aircraft. sometimes, you just have to trust the people behind you to remember what team they're on.

  • @Vulture-1066
    @Vulture-106611 күн бұрын

    Range far range fast 😁

  • @Mr.Su-35Flanker-E
    @Mr.Su-35Flanker-E15 күн бұрын

    S-400 vs DF-26

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    14 күн бұрын

    Will try.

  • @Mr.Su-35Flanker-E

    @Mr.Su-35Flanker-E

    14 күн бұрын

    @@grimreapers Ok, Thx!

  • 15 күн бұрын

    Aegis is the world's ultimate Air Defense System. Not even S-500 or any Air Defense can match.

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