now we need to see the fight between all the ejected pilots on the ground

@orpheus280

Ай бұрын

Someone should set it up in ARMA. Regrouped teams of pilots with pistols fighting in a 100 square mile battlefield 😂

@jmjones7897

28 күн бұрын

USAF Pararescue 10/10 wrecks y'all

@spiderenigma2803

5 күн бұрын

@@orpheus280 the thing with America they drop with m4s lol

Next time put F-22 escorts on the AWACS just to spite Simba xD

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

lols

@Vapor0040

Ай бұрын

I support Simba spite, how did he not fly an F-16 in this mission? LOL

@5Andysalive

Ай бұрын

@@Vapor0040 took one for the (small) team?

@maksymsliazin4742

Ай бұрын

This battle doesn't count. You didn't include SU-47

@ausinasmith96

26 күн бұрын

​@@maksymsliazin4742pfffffft

How ironic that the first Russian plane killed in a massive 4th gen vs 4th gen furball was the ONLY 5th gen stealth fighter in the battle!

@ivorharden

Ай бұрын

It makes you wonder about the "stealth" aircraft

@kuunoooo7293

Ай бұрын

It really are the engines, when it gets its real engines is extreemly stealthy ​@@ivorharden

@ivorharden

Ай бұрын

@@kuunoooo7293 what are the real engines?

@Laerei

Ай бұрын

@@kuunoooo7293 Right.

@140theguy

Ай бұрын

​@@ivorhardenMakes you wonder about Russian stealth. The US's stealth actually works.

These battles should have some sort of AWACS protection. The AWACS, being the eyes in the sky for each side, would see the attackers coming for them and would immediately vector planes to intercept them or would at least have AA assets covering them. Both sides would know how important it is to keep these assets alive.

@jamieminnell7316

21 күн бұрын

its cool to see with russia having the starting advantage and having the awacs advantage they still got shat on

@killerblingxbl

16 күн бұрын

See, you say that, but Russia lost three (four?) AWACS to a country with barely any air force or AA.

@theendoftheline

15 күн бұрын

@@killerblingxbl maybe maintenance and training are important too? good catch ;)

@jamieminnell7316

15 күн бұрын

@@killerblingxbl no i was saying it was an unrealistic advantage that russia would have more awacs but it didnt matter cause they still got graped

The end around on the AWACs is not realistic as the AWAC would vector fighters to intercept.

@rnash999

Ай бұрын

It is ridiculous too as this is a can X beat all Y and not can a non command and control fleet beat them and so on. Of course the side without AWACS is crippled and will be worse off.

@mattgangel1

Ай бұрын

And he does it every time. Super annoying

@andrewtv9873

Ай бұрын

Agree. Silly and not in the spirit of the event. Stopped watching the moment the second one went down.

@gunner-qf9eh

Ай бұрын

@@mattgangel1 So if you know he does it EVERY TIME like you claim, why are you still here clicking, viewing, commenting, which directly supports the channel, regardless if your analysis is positive or negative?

@killingyouwithlogic5808

Ай бұрын

@@rnash999 I agree 100% Its like what they do to the F-22's at Red Flag events they put them in damn near impossible mismatchs and give them limits to use and then when 1 is taken out the world acts like the f-22 is now crap! Its Truly useless to judge based on a senerio where one sides has there hands tied tells us nothing!

Simba going after the AWACS immediately and exploiting the logic of the AI adds nothing to the scenario and only diminishes it. Adding some AA fire to protect the bases and/or AWACS would at least add a risk vs reward incentive to go after the strategic assets.

@Guildelin

7 күн бұрын

In a real battle you should bet your ass the awacs would be a priority target.

The sound of this battle on those hills must have been terrifying

I guess it would all depend on how much of their air force could actually start their engines and function, which is iffy.

@RazorsharpLT

Ай бұрын

Have you SEEN the massive landwhale of a Russian pilot that ejected over Ukraine? And they make fun of Americans for being fat... lmao Not only are their aircraft inferior - their pilots are worse than most commercial pilots in the US

@5Andysalive

Ай бұрын

I love that in Red Storm Rising Clancy constructs a reason the Soviets have half a year to get their military working before they start the war. It's nothing new apparently.

@subjectc7505

Ай бұрын

They literally fly sortie daily into Ukraine 🤦🏾‍♂️

@Archer89201

Ай бұрын

Well that goes to all the militaries in the world, half the brand new F-35s are down with maintainace issues according to the airforce due to reliability issues.

@subjectc7505

Ай бұрын

@@Archer89201 right, not only that but logistics and if enough pilots are available. People love crapping on the VSK, when they're dominating Ukraine right now with glide bombs. Plus NATO just came out and debunked Ukraine analytics on their losses. Russia only lost 10% of their air force, aside from two A-50s and allegedly one Tu-22M, they're still going strong and just delivered a batch of new Su-35S's.

I love these videos! Also just wanna say thank you for keeping the spark going... recently the F-4 preorder stuff arrived which prompted me to redownload DCS, then one thing followed an other and I am playing through a gazillion of my dust collecting modules and using your videos to re learn the startups and systems... and now added VR on top of the mix... yeah I am lost to the simulator xD And the F-4 is not even here yet. Just wanna say thank you for the content and the inspiration to fly more :D

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

Pleasure

Love the ‘grass blowing’ effect…well done DCS 😊

Simba’s puzzy move of swinging around to take out the AWACS is so predictable, it’s becoming boring.

@jonathankenton7182

Ай бұрын

It’s pu$$y not puzzy. I’m just messing with y’all. Hilarious comment.

@rat2244

Ай бұрын

Definitely a sweaty nerd that takes his role too seriously

I really wish you would give the awacs escorts because it seems that nobody pays any attention to them once the game starts and your missiles don't work as well without them

I reacted the same way Cap with the grass. First time I seen it myself, awesome stuff!

"Roughly as good as Chinese stealth, I would say" oof, talk about damned by faint praise

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

lols

@HowIsAsh

Ай бұрын

@@grimreapers are you retarded or retarded

@Bababoy6969

Ай бұрын

U do realise both China and Russia use American stealth tech when Yugoslavia shit down the f117 they gave parts to China and Russia which both modernized

@miriamweller812

Ай бұрын

Stealth doesn't work against a real army. And no, targeting is no problem. When the air defense sees the aircraft, it's absolutely enough to guide the missile close to it, the missile will do the rest on sight, stealth doesn't help you anymore at this point.

@yomama629

25 күн бұрын

@@miriamweller812 if that were even remotely true then every country in the world with the means to do so wouldn't be pursuing stealth aircraft, and yet they are. You clearly know nothing

35:11 "Foxes are in the hen house, now!" Funny because the Soviets actually had an OTH Radar with the NATO Reporting Name "HEN HOUSE"

Maybe my favorite GR video yet. Not only did the Vipers win, we still have the rest of our Air Force and Navy to deal with China next. This is exactly what would happen, only it would be more lopsided. The American pilots have way better training/experience, and their equipment actually works. Don't mess with the Viper. Fantastic airplane.

@xiphias2997

Ай бұрын

"We are the greatest, we are the best, we will crush them in a minute." And this gentlemen, is how defeats are created.

@Juan-os4hs

Ай бұрын

The biggest threat to the F-16, are the US Generals and the MIC pushing their craptastic "latest GEN, leading edge technologies".

@MrHeroMarines

Ай бұрын

@@xiphias2997 when talking about the US airforce that quote is more of an understatement 🤷‍♂

I'm not sure how long I've been subbed to your channel but it's pretty amazing you've put out a video everyday I've been subscribed and it's been multiple years. I think a couple years before covid. My brain is faulty though so I could be off by 5 years.

When cap said "oww look at the grass being blown by the jet", I started imaging the smell of the burnt Avtur 😊

Someone remind Simba that he doesn't sound as cool as he thinks he does

After reporting the spam bots, there aren't any comments.

@RT-qd8yl

Ай бұрын

With as "advanced" as KZread's algorithms etc are, you'd think they could figure out a way to just delete every account with an ass in the pfp. I call them ThotBots.

@bpop2148

Ай бұрын

The state of KZread in 2024...

@aztec0112

Ай бұрын

​​@@bpop2148 Each video has more of them too. Was only 1-2 per, now it's up around ten so far on this video

@bpop2148

Ай бұрын

@@aztec0112 It has for sure gotten a lot worse yea...

@RazorsharpLT

Ай бұрын

@@bpop2148 It's mostly the state of "Mention anything NATO vs Russia" and you get plenty of Russian spambots.

Great vid guys, thanks for the entertainment.

You guys are awesome! My background is Infantry so I know little about piloting in a dogfight however I think by staggering the Americans it added a little game advantage to the Americans. Less aircraft to be killed by Russian missiles initially, as AI just shoots large number of missiles and end up wasting a lot of them. So I think the slow rate of Americans getting airborne was to their benefit.

Cap could use comms to redirect human fighters towards other human players who try to do the AWACS end around run.

I think your warehousing is a great addition. I wouldn't complain if they all got 2 premium and 2 old missiles. Keep up the great work!

what this really show is how incredibly superior human players is (well skilled human players). And that can probobly be extended to good or bad trained real fighter pilots

I’m sure Grump is missing the F-16 action

Fun and interesting fight, thanks for the entertainment.

theres always something with hundreds of aircrafts simultaneously take off

Love these scenarios!

Awesome challenge!

I wonder how much of the swing in numbers was due to the slower launch rate of the F-16s. It would also explain the lower number of American missiles fired, and it wouldn't be the first time one of these battles ended up being won by the slower-launching force still having offensive capabilities after the faster force had burned through their armaments in an initial surge.

if only I could have got to AWACS sooner must be a reason they hide in the back like that so that can't happen

@hf117j

Ай бұрын

Yup. They're a long range radar. Far as I know they aren't armed

@ivorharden

Ай бұрын

Are you Simba?

@JLH111176

Ай бұрын

@@ivorharden no

Man. I wish you could feel better. I hate that you can't break free of this, Cap.

@gibbousmoon35

Ай бұрын

LOL I'm guessing you mean hope, not hate

@Musix4me-Clarinet

Ай бұрын

@@gibbousmoon35 Oh my. Thanks. I adjusted it.

This is my new favourite channel. Binge fest is on!

@dexlab7539

Ай бұрын

You have years of binge’ing my friend…been here for years myself. GR has a Patreon too if you wanna help Cap and the boys out too 😊

That was a good scrap, far more entertaining than Gen 5 vs Gen 3 or 4.

Thank you chaps.

I'm only here for the rewenge

Next video Growling Sidewinder vs Grim Reaper

The update also includes bomb blast shockwave which looks awesome

Good watch!!

When did you do the "USAF vs Russian Air Force" fight referenced in the beginning? I'm not seeing that in your recent videos.

This battle was pretty much the fox three slaughterfest I expected it to be. Simba could've gotten to AWACS's earlier and faster if he was flying the Mig-31. Now we need to pit the F-16 against the entire PLAAF fighter fleet.

The lovely swan-neck SUs definitely win on looks, if nothing else.

@off6848

Ай бұрын

They’re so hot MIG35 too And the Foxbat is just tuff like f15 on roids

@PongoXBongo

Ай бұрын

@@off6848 Yeah, the Foxbat drove itself way too hard and burned out, as if it was on roids.

@off6848

Ай бұрын

@@PongoXBongo in this video or irl?? Because I didn’t watch the video but that did happen once irl

@PongoXBongo

Ай бұрын

@@off6848 I was referring to IRL. Their materials science couldn't fully keep up with their ambitions, lol.

I love these all out slug fests. This one was a nice twist. Need to figure out more interesting ones. Examples: Pre NATO joining Sweeden & Norway Vs. Russia or Poland vs. Belarus. Probably not in DCS yet but, "Could S. Korea defend itself from N. Korea with JUST its domestic KF-21?"

All hail the mighty VIPER!

If we’re using futuristic missiles then shouldn’t the U.S. be able to use the AIM-260, due to it becoming operational in 2024, and being two stage like the R-77M; which like you said, is also futuristic. Any thoughts by anyone?

@RazorsharpLT

Ай бұрын

Honestly the US would win, and that would be boring. They have to handicap themselves to give Russia a chance. Let's say - they don't want any of the new, future missiles to land in Russia to give them an edge.

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

They didn't really need it TBH.

@jasonvick55

Ай бұрын

@@grimreapers very true. Thanks Cap!

@jasonvick55

Ай бұрын

@@RazorsharpLT makes sense. It would most likely be a slaughter. Lol

How those F-16s managed to take off without being bombarded by Iskanders, Kalibrs, Kinzhals etc. is a complete mystery to me...😆

@MrHeroMarines

Ай бұрын

rigggght

@HarrDarr

22 күн бұрын

do you think russia is the only country with ballistic missiles?

I think it can be done seeing our F-16 stock is about the size of the entire Russian Air Force. So this should be Interesting! Thanks GR TEAM!!!

Also thought the F-16's could have a hard point with a split Aim-9 missles to have 2 sidewinders on a hard point. times 2 for each wing and we could have 4 missles instead of 2.

I want to say the reason it stayed even was the fact that the Russians were wheels up before the F-16's at least thats what it seems. If i'm correct in that it might've given the Russians a better chance at the starts when it was a few F-16's vs the majority of the Russian Air-Force (relatively) giving an initial Russian advantage (even though the Su-57 already did give a slight advantage which was showed by the the 57 immediately getting a couple of kills before being locked on). Then as the F-16's starts to gain traction in the fight enough to let other F-16's up in the air which also allowed the F-16's an advantage of still having munitions in comparison to the already winchester and retreating Russians. I will say i loved seeing the extremely slimey and slippery evasion that the F-16's were able to do (dodging at one point 4-5 missiles at once and still surviving) and it kind of proves why its one of the best aircrafts in the world. I would love to see the same thing however with the F-15's to see how kuch of a difference if at all it would be for the F-15 to F-16 and actually compare to who is truly better in air superiority

I get F-35's, F-18's, and F-16's over my house mostly. But I'm about 2 and a half miles north of Lockheed and a joint reserve base. It'd be nice to see an F-15 or something else once in a while. Occasionally a raptor is seen but rare these days.

There are so many F-16s that it would be hard for the Russians not to get overwhelmed. Imagine if had been the F-35 fleet (including exported and sold ones there have been over 1,000 made, yikes!)

@subjectc7505

Ай бұрын

Russia wouldn't get overwhelmed.

@knight1706

Ай бұрын

@@subjectc7505Yeah, the hundreds of 5th gens launching fox-2’s disagree’s with ya’.

@subjectc7505

Ай бұрын

@@knight1706 Keep dreaming broski. It can only happen in video games.

@dgthe3

Ай бұрын

@@subjectc7505 Oh do tell us how the mighty Russian airforce could not be overwhelmed by a 3:2 numerical disadvantage against an air fleet comprised entirely of stealth aircraft. This'll be good to hear.

@subjectc7505

Ай бұрын

@@dgthe3 only in video games would that happen. Russians always operate within their defense radius and as you can see in Ukraine, neither side is unable to takeoff without their RWR beaming from a track radar. It's not the middle east broski. You'll push back the Russians but overwhelm is an understatement.

Wargame idea: Israeli airstrike on Iran, supported by US tankers and AWACS, but the Iranians launch their F-14 fleet in an attempt to take out the tankers and AWACS before the Israelis can refuel.

Dear @Grim Reapers This DCS simulation results corresponds to "official" information about the performance of weapon a or weapon b. As you can right now see , weapon systems like s-300 / S-400 are neither able to shoot down cruise missiles / storm shadow or the technicians are not able to do what their weapon systems are able. So i would say, the russian SU-35 and other types are not that good. We gonna see soon :)

@geraltofrivia8529

Ай бұрын

If we "See soon :)" then the first targets hit will be aircraft carriers by cruise missles, and thanks to the houthi we now know that american ships are unable to stop dodgy low tech missiles, let alone a swarm of 200-300 high end russian cruise missles. The loss of 2 or 3 aircraft carriers plus escorts will probably trigger nuclear launches. Because that is americas entire military doctrine gone. So if thats what you want to "see soon :)" Then we'll be seeing the sarmat 2 close up. I doubt russia would even launch their air force.

@ivanvenema5052

Ай бұрын

So Ukraine has been lying about shooting down cruise/ballistic missiles?

@warfumble12

17 күн бұрын

You know very little about level of sophistication of operations that ukrainians conduct. Almost every attack starts with overloading AA, shooting cheap crap and launching harms, probing different directions and finding weak spots etc. In perfect conditions storm shadow is an easy target for s400 but they dont exist in a real war. Same goes for patriot btw, Israel is ditching patriots since they didnt achieve much success against Iranian rockets, even though on paper it is not so

Simba: *flies Soviet plane* Soviet plane: **MISSILE ALERT!** Simba: “This is where the fun begins.” F-16 squadron: “Are you sure about that?”

The short answer? Yes. The long answer? Yes.

How do you achieve that leval of clarity in your graphics?

Great video as usual. Where is RC? It would be great to hear from him 👍

@SmithandWesson22A

Ай бұрын

Where is Violet? She was good fun

@rumannkoch4864

Ай бұрын

Unt wo is Fly?

It's not surprising those wooden Su-57's didn't perform too well..

F-16 C/D do not use AESA radars, they have APG-68 (V)10 Pulse Doppler radar, US F-16 in real life is old, obsolete and have no AESA.. They are all inferior in all parameters against SU-30, SU-34, SU-35, SU-57 and Mig-31. In all versions of this fight Russian fighter would get the first shot fired and lots of first kills. Mig-31 would be a monster against F-16 when they could rise to max altitude and send all of their missiles against F-16 before they are detected and F-16 would have problem to intercept them on that high altitude before they gain max altitude themself. SU-57 would kill all AWACS before all this started, return home, rearm and killing more, and no, SU-57 is not super stealthy, it’s not, just that F-16 radars are obsolete. F-16 detected all Russians fighters way way and way to early, half of them would be shoot down before releasing a missile. The entire fight was made in a way to give USA an edge and removing all Russian edges in the form of long ranged missiles, altitude and radars.

Does DCS have a way to replicate the F18 Growler? That would be a fun mission to see if you can make SAM sites fire at nonexistent targets.

The F16 holds a 92:13 kill/loss ratio, stated by UN Military Command......But It is undoubtedly a game changer for undeveloped countries...sure ...will it defeat the RAUF ...Hell no its holds a great kill Ratio ...but when you look deeper, its only vs sub 1999 and prior enemies ...VS +1999 equipped enemies it touts a abysmal 12:28 kill/Loss ratio

Are the results linear, between various scale factor simulations?

+GrimReapersAtomic *_Don't_** forget the 三栗 Mitubisi/Lockheed Martin F-2A, an ASDF (JPN) execution o' the General Dynamics Project Agile Falcon.* The Federal Russian Aerospace Forces divide the missiles by type: Vympel R-37 for Mikojan-Gurjevich-31 Bolshogo Modernizarovann'yj assigned to the Anti-Air Defence Corps (a descendant o' the Soviet-era IA-PVO); R-77M and R-73M2 amongst MiG-29 Modernizarovann'yj, MiG-35 Sapfir, and Sukhoi-27/30/35 assigned to Frontal Aviation, plus the MiG-29 Korabeln'yj Istrebeitel and Su-33 Korabeln'yj Perekhvatchik assigned to Naval Aviation.

SIMBA - People's target!

Wiki not biased. are you interested in buying a bridge. could do you a good deal.

Would it actually be possible to have that many data link missiles in the air simultaneously?

Foolish AI! Simba is always the greatest threat.

More proof that the F-16XL is the greatest plane 'we' never had.

@totalNERD-eo7wx

Ай бұрын

Aaand that is the best plane we never had because we had the option of having the F-15E instead

I would like to see this same mission ran with F-15s

@TheGobin

Ай бұрын

f15's would do better than the f16's until they run out of missiles

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

US only has about 400 F-15s so they'd get smashed :(

It would take 3 days, with the F-16s feeling out the opposition for 2 days

Looks like a vast amount of the initial Russian missiles were launched against very few F-16s in the chokepoint.

I would call the F-16 the most successful fighter jet of all time. It does everything cheaper than everything else. It's a damn shame the F-16XL never picked up traction. Those delta wings would have pushed it to a new level.

Short answer would be no... Long answer. F-16s requires a large logistical support to work effectively, an AWACS or at least a sophisticated long range ground radar to compensate for its short-range radar, and AMRAAMs... Lots and lots of AMRAAMs.

@ParapenteAngola

26 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Wait for it

@ParapenteAngola

26 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 Wait for it

There's a problem with your setup here, which should actually make the F-16 missile much more impactful. You excluded the bombers, and planes that aren't "front-line capable". In reality, such planes would be intended to launch at the same time, and come through to destroy the F16 airbases and/or other HVTs, while they're busy engaging the fighters. You would end up having to engage them as well, possibly even in priority over fighters in some cases.

Probably the same simulation that predict massive success for counteroffensive last year

Don't forget, it's not just their air force,arming the F16

You should do a video negating stealth like an F15 vs F22 set with an equivalent RCS. Just to see which would be better from a pure performance standpoint

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

hmm could do but pretty sure they'd be about even?

@michealmccormick9102

Ай бұрын

​@@grimreapersf15 could hold a whole heap more missiles... depends on type of fight I think

@zachhoefs9543

Ай бұрын

I think the 22 can go "beast mode" like the F35. So that would decrease the disparity somewhat.

@yomama629

25 күн бұрын

@@grimreapers even then, the F-22 being capable of carrying its weapons internally would have far less parasitic drag so would dominate in a BFM scenario. Beyond visual range its superior radar would win it the fight

The Russian 4th gen aircraft fleet. LOL...good one.

Yes. Next video.

In Scandinavia we are merging our air force response. Was wondering if you would like to do a simulation where Norway, Denmark, Finland and Sweden fighting against the russian arsenal?

@rustysutton

26 күн бұрын

just imagine a big flash and a huge mushroom cloud there you go

The most laughable aspect is that 100% of the missiles hit their targets... 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂.

strange to see su-57 without 2 S-70 drones

How many of these F-16s have Have Glass on them IRL? Wouldn't that be used in modern combat especially if fighting Russia?

That fleet strength report seems awfully low. I wonder what it accounts for... USAF only or ANG/ANR plus mothballed.

~900 F-16s vs ~700 Russian frontliners... no wonder

@grimreapers

Ай бұрын

It's accurate...

Yes!

Hey, could you do a smaller scale battle with Russian aircraft in Kaliningrad (12 Su-30 + 24 Su-27SM) vs Poland with 36 F-16s? You could also make this a tactical battle, with both sides using GBAD, SEAD, and potentially naval assets, perhaps Helicopters too

@wujekstalina

Ай бұрын

Is this russian general staff tryna save money on wargames?😂

@totalNERD-eo7wx

Ай бұрын

@@wujekstalina What?

@Psydvckthefirst

Ай бұрын

@@totalNERD-eo7wx He means instead of making the computations in operations center they just ask ppl on youtube to make them simulations to save money.

@totalNERD-eo7wx

Ай бұрын

@@Psydvckthefirst That would be in character I guess

@Psydvckthefirst

Ай бұрын

@@totalNERD-eo7wx I think most intellegence agencies and their army friends try to get as much free labour from the internet as they can. Of course it has to be hard filtered, but they own the "filters" so to say, so i't easy for them.

Uncle Shmuli.

Wikipedia shows 22 su 57 and 10 test versions of the su 57 meaning 32 in total. So instead of 10 you should have added 22 but okay!

@YossefMan-hg9cz

9 сағат бұрын

There is 50 su 57 according to latest russian sources

If it can't, the simulation is completely broken. 😂

not likely f-16s could take on mig 29 and su-27s but the 0 su 35s would be a issue

Russia has AT BEST 32, 22 production and 10 test.....but those 22 aren't even in full service either and the test aren't either, so 10-15 is a solid estimate. anyone who says "100" or "hundreds" lost their mind

With nerfed R37M sure anything is possible

Simba ruining it as per usual

No. Longer answer - it depends but still no. You are not going to be fighting a conventional air to air battle. They will always choose to fight under the cover of their S400s and the F16s would be annihilated.

Gotta have some Su34 in there

Where do i find the Russian airforce vs modern US aircrafts?

Could you do the mission from Iron Eagle in memory of Louis Gossett Jr?

how about a similar mission Europe's 104 Gripens, 195 Rafale, 422 Typhoons vs Russia