How dangerous is it for independent journalists in Russia? | DW News
Authorities in Russia have detained two Russian journalists on charges of extremism, accusing them of working for a banned group founded by the late opposition leader Alexei Navalny.
The two men - Sergey Karelin and Konstantin Gabov - both deny the charges, and could face years in prison if convicted. They both worked for Deutsche Welle before the channel was banned and expelled from Russia. Navalny's movement is designated by Russian authorities as an "extremist" group, meaning his staff and supporters can face prosecution.
For more on this, we talk to Sergey Lukashevsky. He is the head of the Andrey Saharov Center for human rights in Berlin.
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Nobody should be going to Russia for any reason.
@ScottishAtheist
15 күн бұрын
They were russian. Did you even watch the video?
@w1113zuch
15 күн бұрын
😂 канешна 😂
Human rights is the most double standard word in this world.
@burns281981
15 күн бұрын
Why do you think it is the most?
Russia looking more and more like North K.
@happymelon7129
16 күн бұрын
He is lucky not in GZ. --or already X by.. 1 D F
@fritzraake22
16 күн бұрын
@@happymelon7129 Says the rotten melon.
@artman12
16 күн бұрын
Looking more like the EU and the US. Can’t tell the difference.
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
LOL, you have NEVER visited neither Russia nor Korea!
@neilnelson7603
16 күн бұрын
What about Isreal killing 100 journalists? Are they still a beacon of democracy?
Dictatorship.
@neilnelson7603
16 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Isreal kills over 100 independent journalists and you're silent. It says a lot about so called western democracy.
If Germany is free country, then why banned RT ?
@Rod732
16 күн бұрын
Because we don't accept lies you bot
@neilnelson7603
16 күн бұрын
@@Rod732So, you silence them and get upset when Russia silence your journalists?
@SNkumar-cy7xq
16 күн бұрын
@@Rod732more then DW?
@adnanalikhan6890
15 күн бұрын
Because they're American puppies. They only bark when their master tells them to.
@user-kk5cv1rs5r
15 күн бұрын
@@Rod732 that is not how democracy works. EU are authoritarian states.
Nothing new...
Remember Gonzalo Lira? He is dead now! So how dangerous is it for independent journalists in Ukraine?
@MsLUFC
16 күн бұрын
I followed him, he had health problems for a long time, his health was really bad. He was warned several times to leave, he didnt, so they jailed him for pushing russian disinformation inside Ukraine. He was not bright
@ronnie5329
16 күн бұрын
He was already very ill. And warned several times to leave
@carolinerondon8934
16 күн бұрын
When you got the lungs of a 90 year old chain smoker, you might want to just not push those type of information war, when warned multiple times. Not a bright guy
@notastone4832
16 күн бұрын
@@ronnie5329 he tried to leave, and they said he tried to flee the country and jailed him again.. then he was found dead in his cell. dude had an american passport.. if ukraine will do that to him they would do it to you if you dare stand in the way of their lies.
Free Assange! "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals." ~ Edward Snowden
@kainv.9221
16 күн бұрын
The same, Edward Snowden, who was gifted at luxury apartment in Moscow by the Russian government?)
@kensuz
16 күн бұрын
@kainv.9221 Yes, the same Edward Snowden who exposed that the US government was spying on its people and the world.
@kareemi7080
15 күн бұрын
isn’t the point that europe is an open society and has democratic values?? Once you question that they’ll compare themselves to the “dictatorships” and say see at least we aren’t like them…😆😆.Nobody has even mistaken Russia or parts of Asia for having the same democratic values as Europe…Europe and the west do that.
@user-sk6qj9yf6w
15 күн бұрын
@@kainv.9221 You envy silently
Obviously far more dangerous for all journalists in Gaza.
@ScottishAtheist
15 күн бұрын
Zzzzzz Zzzzzz.....
@burns281981
15 күн бұрын
How so? Let's see if Kevin can respond or if it will only be random others speaking on Kevin's behalf.
@DSan-kl2yc
14 күн бұрын
What a non point
Lol ...European lacture Russia on freedom of speech And free press😂😂😂
@katzensindweich3505
16 күн бұрын
Russia will never listen. Too far gone into a failed state. Russia is beyond help.
@MsLUFC
16 күн бұрын
In Russia you get prisontime for criticism towards the war in Ukraine. They dont have any freedom of speech. Does a pakistani know anything about europe?
@MsLUFC
16 күн бұрын
In Russia you get 10 years in jail for being against the "special operation"
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
@@MsLUFCWho has told you this nonsense?
@kareemi7080
15 күн бұрын
@@MsLUFCisn’t the point that europe is an open society and has democratic values?? Once you question that they’ll compare themselves to the “dictatorships” and say see at least we aren’t like them…😆😆.Nobody has even mistaken Russia or parts of Asia for having the same democratic values as Europe…Europe and the west do that.
The DW Goebells network won’t even allow RT or Sputnik in their country/satellite countries.
@Jezar7
16 күн бұрын
Cry more Ivan... 😂 .
@icu17siberia
16 күн бұрын
Russians don't even believe those stations, thats why you all come here for information
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
@@Jezar7Why? Because he is right?
@kareemi7080
15 күн бұрын
@@Jezar7 europe really sacrifices it’s own values to fight their enemy but then also uses the excuse of “Russia and others are bad” to justify diminishing their own values. Israel does the same, because believing your morally superior gives you that ability to crack down on the basis of your country’s moral superiority. We paint Russia and China as not morally superior so when they crack down we don’t see the hypocrisy as we do from the west.
@user-kk5cv1rs5r
15 күн бұрын
@@Jezar7 European media are streaming from Moscow, but not the vice versa. why ?? so much for the European freedom of speech Democracy
People who work for state owned media are actually propagandists not journalists. Jullian Assange is a Journalist.
@Stebetto3
16 күн бұрын
That pretty much covers the whole russian media 😂
@josephshields2922
16 күн бұрын
@@Stebetto3 DW BBC PBS and Ukraine
@ronnie917
16 күн бұрын
@@josephshields2922Sure bro, its the same. 🤡
@happymelon7129
16 күн бұрын
He is lucky not in GZ. --or already X by.. 1 D F
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
@@Stebetto3When have you been in Russia?
He should know better to respect local laws. But I think he did it for some promotion or something. Now he probably learnt his lesson and won't break anymore laws in the future.
Is a joke to call him "independent journalists." When his is from state midia
> DW journalist >independent It's a joke, isn't it?
@j.e3651
16 күн бұрын
Lmao bro as a European. I feel insulted really. I mean, obviously DW does nothiing more then sharing opinions, that is not journalism. And there is no place for alternative voices unless in certain settings. Again it is a journalists task to have multiple opinions fight eachother. How dumb do they think we are.
@kareemi7080
16 күн бұрын
Duh don’t you know Germans also lost their ability to think for themselves after the Holocaust? There is more free speech in some arab countries than there is in Germany. No such thing as an independent German journalist.
@adnanalikhan6890
15 күн бұрын
@@j.e3651 Extremely
Let's ask Julian Assange he might know?
@DSan-kl2yc
14 күн бұрын
Ask him
@GarnetNewfree
14 күн бұрын
Do you mind mate, I'm on the phone to Edward Snowden
@DSan-kl2yc
14 күн бұрын
@@GarnetNewfree what do you think would happen to him if he had done that in Russia? Assassination probably. Nelvany didn't do squat and he's six feet under. Democratic governments aren't flawless. But they give people the ability to fight back, discuss. There's no comparison to Russia.
@GarnetNewfree
14 күн бұрын
Keeping up with the news even the American cia believes nelvaly died not murdered, he wasn't lazarus ey
@GarnetNewfree
13 күн бұрын
You mean like Gonzalo Lira American journalist died in a Ukrainian police station?
What about Julian Assange?
How dangerous is Independent journalist in Ukriane and Gaza or the Westbank 🤣🤷♂️🙄
@burns281981
15 күн бұрын
Would you be able to explain how they differ in English? Just wondering if you are capable of thought.
He is more lucky than Gonzalo Lira. Gonzalo Lira already X in Youkrain.
@neilnelson7603
16 күн бұрын
And the 90 journalists killed in Gaza by Isreal
@user-kk5cv1rs5r
15 күн бұрын
Gonzalo Lira was literally slowly murdered by the Youkrina secret service
How dangerous it is for journalists in Israel genocide
@awalii21
15 күн бұрын
Its so dangerous, they killed hundred of journalists
@user-kk5cv1rs5r
15 күн бұрын
their career destroyed
@burns281981
15 күн бұрын
Wow the poor English really hurt some people in their comments. They don't grasp how badly they grasp the understanding of the words they use. Like watching a child play with a loaded gun.
There is no such thing as "independent journalists." The days of story-telling have passed.
Well Amnesty International are not allowed to operate in Western Ukraine! When AI said that Kiev forces were deliberately using civilian buildings, Zelenskiy forced them out!
DW pls send your reinforcement journalist to fight for freedom and justice. Pls send all your journalist
Is much worst being a palestinian supporter in Germany
How independent is DW?
@carolinerondon8934
16 күн бұрын
They cover all stores, and do it better than most outlets. So id say, pretty independent
@josephshields2922
16 күн бұрын
100 cheerleading war.
@HectorSantos-fi9xm
16 күн бұрын
@@carolinerondon8934, thanks, but most of the time gives the impression of openly bias.
@TheTwangKings
16 күн бұрын
Trollski what do you know about independence 😂😂😂
@neilnelson7603
16 күн бұрын
@@carolinerondon8934I haven't seen them talk of the 100 journalists killed in Gaza by Isreal. I guess they're not independent as you may portray them?
DW why don’t you make a report about Gonzalo Lira that died in Ukraines prison because he was reporting about Ukraine. USA citizen. And how little USA did to free him (nothing)
Prayer for him
What the heck are you doing there anyways???
Is it more dangerous than in occupied Palestine?
How dangerous is it for independent journalists in Russia? - not as dangerous as in Gaza. That said are these journalists really independent? Do they have a western agenda that they are pushing etc?
This is horrific. Free them immediately!!! 😢
@Tea_with_lemon.
16 күн бұрын
Why?
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
You mean as quick as Assange will be free??
He is lucky not in GZ. --or already X by.. 1 D F
Should have respected local laws then. Can't imagine a journalist being so irresponsible.
Dw propagandist
You have to be very brave in Putins Russia to be a journalist of any kind.
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
Why?
@trevorstanding6462
15 күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa open windows, Novichok and being a journalist comes to mind.
@claus-not-santa
15 күн бұрын
@@trevorstanding6462 When have you been in Russia last time?
@trevorstanding6462
15 күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa where have you been living for the last 2 years -- on the moon ?
@myboysd5772
14 күн бұрын
@@claus-not-santa You dont have to pretend you dont know what he is talking about.
Maybe these are no accidents. Someone maybe trying to tell them to do as we ask.
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" independent" 😂
We don't have an appreciation for just how sensitive things are for the Germans 😃. I mean look how in the name of journalism "their people" are imprisoned in Russia! 😂 But true to form the Germans must give lip service to their "endeavors" should they run afoul of a complication that endangers the IMAGE they want to maintain for themselves.
There are a lot of independent journalists in Russia, especially among war journalists, but there is one common thing among them, they are pro-Russian. Not anti-Russian propagandists sponsored by Western funds. Off course if you are working for enemies of Russia, you will have problems. I think this true for any country.
@adnanalikhan6890
15 күн бұрын
Exactly. What was he thinking 🤔. He was probably doing it for some big promotion or something. But now he learnt he needs to respect local laws.
Oh well, what can you do? They knew the risks, anyway..
good decision by russia western jounalism is double standard
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
@ronnie917
16 күн бұрын
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@archyarchfiendx2938
16 күн бұрын
@@ronnie917 yes they are. You are too lol
Taurus Taurus Taurus
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
TAUNUS TAUNUS TAUNUS
This is why Russians come to this channel. Information is lacking in Russia
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
When have you been in Russia last time?
😂 нашли где лазать 😂
No one should go do any journalism in Russia.
@LuV2SPDup
16 күн бұрын
@@suportbghelp4938, no money is worth rotting in Russia. Average citizens are rotting away, and they are not even in prison.
@srve1149
16 күн бұрын
"Journalism" yea right.
@claus-not-santa
16 күн бұрын
@@LuV2SPDupHave you ever been in Russia?
@LuV2SPDup
13 күн бұрын
@claus-not-santa , I've been to Moscow in the late 1980s, a few times. I've been there in 2006 as well. In 2006, I was there after living in the US since 1991, and honestly, I didn't have a good experience. People were very rude and obnoxious. There were nice people as well that I met, but mostly, they were rude. Maybe because of my accent. Originally, I was born in western Ukraine, so I speak Ukrainian and Hungarian. I do speak Russian fluently, but I always had an accent, even when living in the USSR. I've also been to Leningrad, and I visited many places there.
@claus-not-santa
13 күн бұрын
@@LuV2SPDup I was not allowed to visit Eastern Block countries as I have been NATO soldier with highest security class when I was living 5 years in Finland I in 2002 decided to visit St. Petersburg. I was very disappointed when I came there........in positive way!! NOTHING there was like I thought it should be according to my NATO indoctrination ! After my first visit I started doing a lot of very nice business in Russia, Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan and travelled a lot and met many people, both in business and private as I never stayed in hotel, but rented a furnished apartment. When I became 60 I sold my company to 2 of my skilled employees and since that I visit Russia as often as I can as tourist. In summers I use to stay 2-3 months and travel around with my own car. Last trip was 18.732 km in Russia plus 2 times 4.500 km from home and back again. In 2022 I bought a new apartment in Caucasus and use it as base for my travels.
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