Love for Georgia ❤❤

Go georgian people ❤✊

Go Georgia!💪

@Old-George

16 күн бұрын

Bless you! 🤘

@Sziasztok742

16 күн бұрын

according to the ukrainian scenario? Good luck...

@Old-George

16 күн бұрын

@@Sziasztok742 Between being a slave to Russia or "the Ukraining Scenario", it's an easy choice.

@tsotne

16 күн бұрын

@@Sziasztok742 say so more ruzzian things please :D

@duncansmith7562

16 күн бұрын

but not the protesters

Well done Georgia!!

@Old-George

16 күн бұрын

Cheers Patrick! 🤘

Wouldn’t that also mean that any organization that receives more than 20% of its funding from Russia must also register as an agent of foreign influence?!?

@erikitter6773

16 күн бұрын

seems to apply to this comment, too: Sure. If this will be the first time in history such a registry is used equally in all politicaly directions. The problem with laws of this kind is not what they say they do, but how they are applied as a tool (to be fair that is not specific to them, but a general problem with legal systems not that robustly established, be it because it is somewhat young and still has a lot of bad actors from before as here, or because there was a decades long campaign to undermine it [U.S., but sadly, here, too]).

@Sziasztok742

16 күн бұрын

Google how many Russian big businesses there are in Georgia with much more than 20%, you will be surprised.

@Jim-Tuner

16 күн бұрын

But that is the problem with the law. It treats all groups equally rather than banning the Russian ones. Groups that are bringing freedom and democracy and a modern way of life to Georgia are being treated the same as Russian groups trying to destroy democracy. This law does nothing but get in the way of good people who are trying to bring democracy to Georgia.

@ruyaal

16 күн бұрын

@@Jim-TunerDemocracy??😂😂😂 you are dreaming!!!!

@GwynBleys

16 күн бұрын

@@Jim-Tuner Are you on drugs? What democracy? Where have you seen it? EU threaten to sanction, withholds fundings or even promises to kick states out of the Union for disobeying the policies of unelected officials in Brussels. Its all based on blackmail and bribery within the EU parliament. None of the average citizen has any word in any of this in both EU or the US... Right freaking now they are telling Georgia's Membership is in jeopardy and who made such a decision? Was there at least a vote in EU parliament on this? Democracy rofl

To anyone comparing this with FARA law! According to this law anyone can write down anonymous letter about suspicion that someone may be foreign agent and just submit it without any access procedure and government has rights to access any type of personal information about the suspected person or organisation :) please think what does that mean

@uwepfaff9226

14 күн бұрын

Exactly. Just how it's working in Russia now. Anyone can get the foreign agent label and be restricted with their rights

Russian influence in a former Soviet republic? Gee that's "surprising"....

@mishaknopkin2199

11 күн бұрын

The first law about "foreign influencers" was adopted in our country ...... the United States of America. All organizations receiving money from abroad (>20%) should report to our American Authorities. All other sovereign Democracies in the World (Russia, China, India, etc.) used our blueprints.

@mitchrichards1532

11 күн бұрын

@@mishaknopkin2199 Thats probably because we were infested with foreign influencers. Seriously, we have so many "rights" that we leave ourselves open to other countries taking full advantage.

Those lawmakers don’t represent the people. How do you go against the people who put you in office?

This is Ukraine in 2013. Citizens protesting their governments actions and wanting to be part of the EU and the government making Russian ties anyway.

@mrunstoppable6711

16 күн бұрын

Do you mean a western back coup attempt just like Ukraine in 2013.

@user-tq3vb7vw6b

16 күн бұрын

And look what happened to Ukraine. Hope it does not repeat in Georgia

@kn0wmore126

16 күн бұрын

There's absolutely no problem for Russia if Georgia wants to join the EU. This law also isn't what prevents Georgia from joining the EU. Ukraine was also allowed to join the EU, but not NATO. Same was true for Georgia in 2008. Btw, if you're talking about the coup in 2014, that was done with support, money and arms from certain western entities. After that, everything went to sh.. in Ukraine, leading up to current situation.

@yndividual1

16 күн бұрын

@@kn0wmore126 You should inform yourself better about Ukraine. Russia was blocking Ukraine's EU accession in 2013 and what happened in 2014 is called a "revolution", not a "coup". What went wrong with Ukraine is the fact that Russia attacked it. That is what lead up to the current situation: Russian aggression.

@parker2066

15 күн бұрын

@@user-tq3vb7vw6b yes, they were attacked by a murderous dictator that kills his political opponents and has killed hundreds of thousands of his own people.

Same thing happen in HK 2019 , when gov want to check foreign $ to opposition.

Bravo Free Georgians.

GO GEORGIA! Stand united as a nation and with Europe! - Love from Iceland.

@freedomofpress5605

16 күн бұрын

With Europe??? That means anti-democratic, pro genocide and going bankrupt.

@lashagigashvili575

14 күн бұрын

შენ საქმეს მიხედე.

Sad to say Protest has no effect on the decisions made by the leaders of most countries. They still go through with it no matter how much people protest.

This law was first enacted in the usa in the middle of the 20th century.

@silvasdamata

16 күн бұрын

That's false. They're different laws both in substance and in writing. The US FARA is not a sweeping law that equates any entity or person that gets as little as 20% of its funds from foreign sources, to a foreign agent. It requires an entity to be under the control, or acting under the direction of a foreign party, and also to be acting in the interests of that foreign party. The US law explicitly exempts Humanitarian aid organizations, religious organizations, academic, scientific, fine arts institutions, media organizations and more. The Georgian law contains no such exemptions.

@shizukoklatte1962

16 күн бұрын

@@silvasdamata I see no reason why any NGO should want to hide their funding.

@silvasdamata

16 күн бұрын

@@shizukoklatte1962 It's not about hiding their funding. They're already obliged to make their accounting public, as any other organization - it's about NGOs being forced to declare themselves as agents acting in the interest of foreign powers if they receive funding from abroad. The government already knows where their funding comes from. With this law, the government can pit its own interests against those organizations and claim it's about national interests versus foreign interests. Watchdogs and media can be barred from, say, witnessing next fall's election process - great timing!

@Jim-Tuner

16 күн бұрын

The american law is designed to protect american democracy from foreign threats. The Georgia law is designed to prevent people from helping Georgia to establish a democratic government. Do you get it now Trumpkin?

@poweedlo

16 күн бұрын

​@@silvasdamata Why on Earth there have to be any foreign watchdogs or media at local elections?! Stop poking your nose everywhere!

Well now we can finally know. How many work for Russia and other foreign governments.

@kn0wmore126

16 күн бұрын

Especially our governments, since they oppose this law.

@tomasb.1356

16 күн бұрын

russia no capital letter

@mrunstoppable6711

16 күн бұрын

And how many work for the west.

@Sziasztok742

16 күн бұрын

To find out, Google how many Russian big businesses there are in Georgia, and you'll be surprised.

@22nikatsuki22

16 күн бұрын

good luck. tell me when you find out, because this law won't help you with that :d :d it just forces legitimate organizations to register and label themselves as "agents". It's like those checkboxes on visa forms asking "are you a terrorist?" useless.

The West can't help, the people of Georgia must sort out their Parliament and MPs if they want to join the EU.

@ferrinter7956

16 күн бұрын

its not easy for the people of georgia to do anything since there goverment is a puppet of russia, or they do what they say, or else they will have the same ukrainian faith, in a few words, by by EU for georgia

@poweedlo

16 күн бұрын

They actually don't, it is a sponsored protest

@jjuploadsmapping

14 күн бұрын

@@poweedlo You can clearly see European Union flags raised at the protests. Then no.

@poweedlo

14 күн бұрын

@@jjuploadsmapping ofc EU never paid anyone for protesting and/or another political activity in other countries and has no NGOs anywhere around the globe. Sounds legit and trustworthy to me, exactly.

@jjuploadsmapping

14 күн бұрын

@@poweedlo And obviously you don't have any source for it, and you also just say something like "Sounds trustworthy" or "Sounds True", using your thought of thinking what is true or not to determine if it is True.

America’s politics is littered with dark money. Is everyone saying that’s OK? The thing is when too much money is dumped into an idea and you don’t know where the money is coming from they can influence another countries politics. Look at American politics.

Go Georgia fight for ur freedom

if it is so unpopular, why the parliament comfortably passed the bill? is there like a deep Urban/Rural divide or something in the country?

Georgia's parliament passed a controversial "foreign agents" law on Tuesday, sparking massive protests and drawing international criticism. The law requires organizations receiving over 20% of their funding from abroad to register as "foreign agents", with harsh penalties for non-compliance. Critics argue it resembles Russia's restrictive laws used to suppress dissent and independent media, dubbing it the "Russian law". Tens of thousands of Georgians have taken to the streets nightly for weeks in the largest protests since independence, with clashes between protesters and police. The opposition fears the law could jeopardize Georgia's EU membership bid by undermining democracy and civil society. The EU and US have warned the law hinders Georgia's Western integration and urged its abandonment. Despite the outcry, Georgia's ruling Georgian Dream party, with 84 of 150 MPs, pushed through the final reading amid scuffles in parliament. President Zourabichvili plans to veto but can be overruled. The government claims the law promotes transparency and sovereignty, denying Russian influence.

Georgia Dream says they will join EU by 2030. Oh, and climate goals will be be reached in 2030, too. Same "urgency".

Hold on, how does transparency and Russia come together?

@user-yc6jg7zj3c

16 күн бұрын

Same way as: "democracy" and "the US".

@robertjamesonmusic

16 күн бұрын

@@user-yc6jg7zj3cpathetic ruskie bot 😂

@nahyoxsoldier3264

16 күн бұрын

What’s transparency.

@PhillipGibbon

16 күн бұрын

@@robertjamesonmusic fact's don't care about your feelings 😂🤡

The "No Leader Movement" was also said in Hong Kong, Myanmar, and Ukraine. It has nothing to do with "democracy" but everything to do with "global geopolitics". This model can be used across culture and geography aiming at "regime change" for the "alliance" of WWIII

Shame on the Georgian government

@younevercant

16 күн бұрын

This is not the real georgian government

WEF will not be pleased!

Problem is not the law but the Russian influence, that they are occupying land and Georgia risk getting occupied to 100% or forced to become like Belarus. So people protesting are smart doing it now, once the stakes get higher it will be harder.

No to Russia Law Yes to the EU and freedom more than Russia is no life and suffering under Putin

@Max_Jacoby

16 күн бұрын

Yeah, we suffer so badly in Russia that million Russians earn more money than president of Moldova.

Where is Rezzo Govnoidze the legend of youtube 2008-2010? 🤣🤣😂😂

Really starting to think, what power do people still have anymore? If months of demonstration are not enough to sway an elected party to government, then what will? This to me means that the ruling party is laying the foundation for slowly degrading the democratic systems in Georgia.

@DallasTaylor

16 күн бұрын

Exactly. All the weak pulsed "leaders" will just clutch pearls while they pretend to be cheerleaders for freedom

Why would the parliament pass a law the citizens don’t like ? Who are the parliamentarians representing. No wonder why politicians are not trusted. Once you vote for them, they do what they want. Unbelievable. Politicians can never be trusted. Shame on the politicians.

@VakhtangBerikashvili

16 күн бұрын

They represent one billionaire oligarch, ruler and owner of my country. For now. But we will change it!!

@Max_Jacoby

16 күн бұрын

Yeah, an average citizens suddenly become political aware and go to protest against the law which doesn't concern them in any way. It's obvious the protest is instigated by foreign influence to protect itself.

So foreign agents funded by foreign governments will have to disclose that fact? Seems like a great law! 😎

Stay Strong 🇪🇺❤🇬🇪

Support Georgia’s anti-ruzzian democratic freedom protesters

@williamwalker3837

16 күн бұрын

Anti Russian-Nazism you means

@ElenaKomleva

16 күн бұрын

They should protest gainst their own corrupt politicians who actually passed the bill.

@RudolphoAqui

16 күн бұрын

@@ElenaKomleva absolutely

Seems 🤔 Nice to see people try to figure out what is going on, peacefully

Could somebody please explain the foreign agent law they’re trying to pass or they have passed and what it means for Georgia ? Thank you.

@vincentbani7557

16 күн бұрын

bad reporting... no explanation about what this law is a about.

@Memovox

16 күн бұрын

@@vincentbani7557 DW framing the story to fit their narrative

@coffeegator6033

16 күн бұрын

It's the same law that's used in russia to make sure no one is allowed freedom. If they get money from KZread, then they are considered a risk to covering up the government crimes.

@coffeegator6033

16 күн бұрын

@@user-ke8zm4pj5i Lol whose embassy paid you?

@user-yc6jg7zj3c

16 күн бұрын

@@Memovox as usual. DW is a propagandist outlet, against Russia.

In 1938, Congress enacted the Foreign Agents Registration Act ("FARA"), requiring “foreign agents” to register with the Attorney General. As amended over the years, it applies broadly to anyone who acts on behalf of a “foreign principal” to, among other things, influence U.S. policy or public opinion.

Why DW has never talked about what is wrong with this law? What's wrong with asking for transparency for NGO's funding source?

@TrixiLovesYou

16 күн бұрын

Why don't you watch the video and listen?

@michaelwilson9921

16 күн бұрын

Because that would revel who wants to fund a color revolution. When the West eagerly wants another one like the one in Ukraine, of course they don't want to be obstructed.

@malkhaznikoladze2268

16 күн бұрын

@@TrixiLovesYou Please I kindly ask You to clearly explain to me what in this law is similar to Russian law? Thank You in advance

@Omega0850

16 күн бұрын

If it is just that, why would people protest it?

@Old-George

16 күн бұрын

The law would let the autoritarian goverment directly target all initiatives to move Georgia away from the Russian sphere of influence. It's important to note that the person behind the law is literally a Russian Oligarch.

Fair play to Georgia .

America should look after his country. to enter Georgia.

So who would be against a law that provides transparency in funding, only those foreign nations like US or EU who use NGOs to support anti government groups

@Old-George

16 күн бұрын

It's very naive of you to trust an authoritarian goverment with that information Mr Moon Dog

@Omega0850

16 күн бұрын

May i remind you that its Russia which still occupies part of Georgias territory? The EU doesn´t need covert methods to turn peoples opinion in its favour, since most neighbors of Russia desperatly want to join, in order to escape Russias grip.

@piratesofthebarentssea

16 күн бұрын

​@@Omega0850Firstly, Russia is not occupying anything. Secondly, Georgia and Russia have very close historical, religious, cultural, and economic ties. All of today's strife is precisely due to the Western influence of various NGOs. And finally, Russia is not keeping Georgia from joining the EU or any other economic unions. Therefore, all your insinuations towards Russia are groundless.

@Whydafuqineedayoutubenickname

16 күн бұрын

​@@piratesofthebarentssea*Cough cough*, South Ossetia *cough* Abhazia.

@piratesofthebarentssea

16 күн бұрын

​@@WhydafuqineedayoutubenicknameThis is not the territory of the Russian Federation. These are independent states. *Cough.

Georgians are amazing !

@user-oi3mz8gs2c

15 күн бұрын

If you are white.

@mishaknopkin2199

11 күн бұрын

The first law about "foreign influencers" was adopted in our country ...... the United States of America. All organizations receiving money from abroad (>20%) should report to our American Authorities. All other sovereign Democracies in the World (Russia, China, India, etc.) used our blueprints.

Remarkable how outraged DW is over the Alternative for Deutchland being foreign agents while simultaneously condemning the Georgian Government for doing the same.

@dissco.partysan3333

16 күн бұрын

DW is funded by the German government. Do you expect it to be impartial?

@yndividual1

16 күн бұрын

The difference is that Alternative für Deutschand represents the interests of a despotic dictatorship whereas the government in Georgia wants to outlaw NGOs that represent Western values such as freedom, democracy, fundamental rights and the rule of law. Not at all the same.

@dissco.partysan3333

15 күн бұрын

@@yndividual1 What? AfD does not represent the interest of a despotic dictatorship but common sense. Georgia wants to make those NGOs transparent so they can be an independent country not some Western satellite. We in the West do not represent freedom, democracy and fundamental rights etc. anymore, maybe we should ask ourselves if we ever did. The EU has become similar to the Soviet Union. Unelected officials (European commission , European central bank) are forming our policies and agendas. Stop living in fantasies and accept reality as it is. "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

If the UK had this we could have seen all the Russian money coming in to promote Brexit. We could see how much Israel and Saudi influence our politicians. Transparency is never a bad thing....

@silvasdamata

16 күн бұрын

"I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand, Frodo. I would use this ring from a desire to do good... But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine". Sometimes it's a good thing that we lack certain capabilities. Tolkien may not have been a political scientist, but he didn't lack common-sense.

@geeksworkshop

16 күн бұрын

@@silvasdamata What are you going on about? Knowing who is bribing your countries politicians is not a bad thing...

@silvasdamata

16 күн бұрын

@@geeksworkshop Then enact transparency laws on politicians and political parties' finances, not on environmental and humanitarian NGOs, watchdog organizations and media outlets. Sweeping "anti-corruption", "transparency" and "surveillance" laws are candy for would-be dictators.

@geeksworkshop

16 күн бұрын

@@silvasdamata Oh!

@leonardell-bon7104

16 күн бұрын

Are you saying that Farage is a russian agent?

Foreign aid also has a bad side, it causes your country to divide, or third parties will take advantage of it to increase conflicts and cause riots and wars. (Especially if an organization with terrorist intentions receives external aid)

People in the comment section that don't understand the meaning of the law, please go and do a google search about the exact same law in Russia. Then you understand why it is dangerous for Georgian idea of democracy country.

@Jim-Tuner

16 күн бұрын

But don't look at American or European laws that do the same thing.

@Max_Jacoby

16 күн бұрын

Aren't you sick of repeating "democracy" and "freedom" everywhere even if it has nothing to do with it?

@yndividual1

16 күн бұрын

@@Max_Jacoby Reasonable people do not get sick of democracy and freedom.

@howl262

12 күн бұрын

@@Max_Jacoby Nope not gonna be sick of it. I love my freedom

@Max_Jacoby

12 күн бұрын

Pathetic bots gets triggered by keywords and don't even read into context.

I am confused, am I the only one who sees nothing wrong with this law, from what I hear, agencies who get their funding from foreign countries have to register. Even America has a similar law, so what is really happening, what am I missing?

@erikitter6773

16 күн бұрын

and another one where it fits: Sure. If this will be the first time in history such a registry is used equally in all politicaly directions. The problem with laws of this kind is not what they say they do, but how they are applied as a tool (to be fair that is not specific to them, but a general problem with legal systems not that robustly established, be it because it is somewhat young and still has a lot of bad actors from before as here, or because there was a decades long campaign to undermine it [U.S., but sadly, here, too]).

@zhengguo3178

16 күн бұрын

This makes it difficult for agencies to pretend that they are on behalf of citizens instead of foreign governments, something US government really hates. Won’t be surprised if the protests are also funded by US.

@mrunstoppable6711

16 күн бұрын

Exactly, it’s a color revolution attempt by the west. There’s nothing wrong with the law, it’s about full transparency which, the west doesn’t want.

@leysan7729

16 күн бұрын

The law in Russia was supposedly not to be harmful. Now you don't need any foreign funding at all to be labeled a foreign agent, having an opinion different from the official is foreign influence enough. Once you get labeled you lose many rights of a citizen like for example being able to be woted into a parlament and you are harassed by the bureaucracy in many ways.

@howl262

16 күн бұрын

Haven't you see the same law in Russia? No one can say bad thing about Putin and his regime since the law passed. The main goal for this law, is so that they can call any foreign funded NGO as foreign agent.

REGIME CHANGE FOR RUSSIA !

History sometimes should repeat itself in order to remind people to their limits.

A few hundreds does not constitute 1000s

@captainrex4723

16 күн бұрын

Thousands nationwide, hundreds in any one place

Democracy will always lose if Billionaire rulers are aloud to carry on regardless

This law will also allow the people to see if Russia is influencing the media and NGOs. So what are they protesting about. Sounds more like they don't want them to know.

@nikyankee1080

16 күн бұрын

Well done ... But who catch Russian spy in this country ??? Republic of Georgia is little Russia ...

@rosit3839

16 күн бұрын

What about including the politicians fundings in this law?

@alphabogeyman7462

16 күн бұрын

They know the real foreign influence is the US and EU.

@zanizone3617

16 күн бұрын

Yes, for sure the corrupt politicians in the pocket of the Kremlin will RUSH to apply this law to themselves and not even think of using it against their enemies! Are you for real? Tell me someone is paying you to spout this nonsense!

Ukraine 2.0 loading

@Tabula_Rasa1

16 күн бұрын

Some might argue Ukraine was Georgia 2.0. lol

@ad_astra468

16 күн бұрын

Yeah Georgia got hit first, people tend to forget that.

@Joey-ct8bm

16 күн бұрын

Belarus 2.0!

Lovely

I think the people that are protesting are in the minority

the same law is in US, Canada voted recently to enact same law....no protests. media not questioning this? how is this being touted as a law from russian leader?. US law Foreign Agents Registration Act provides the public with an opportunity to be informed of the identity of persons engaging in political activities on behalf of foreign governments, foreign political parties and other foreign principals, so that their activities can be evaluated in light of their associations

@saltzkruber732

16 күн бұрын

Lmao. Because the FRA only applies to organizations operated and funded by a foreign goverment. This Georgian one applies to all, even if its a Romanian newspaper or whatever.

@Jim-Tuner

16 күн бұрын

Because America is a democracy and democracy has to be protected from foreign threats. America having this law is understandable. But Georgia is not a democracy and the law in Georgia will just be used to stop people outside Georgia from bringing change and democracy to Georgia. How can you not understand that?

@zanizone3617

16 күн бұрын

That law was passed in 1938 and the US has continued being a democracy to this day. The Russian version, that this law copies word for word, has been adopted in 2012 and Russia is a full blown dictatorship, with zero opposition, and zero free press, since then. See the difference?

@pivanov3321

16 күн бұрын

The key difference is : for the west it's structures engaging in political activities, for Russia it's structure/persons having economic relationships (You Tubers, Exporters/Inporters, Athlets, Artists etc). A lot wider selection, and it's used to target opponents of the regime and intimidation.

@nelsonmaingi1297

16 күн бұрын

@@Jim-Tuner Is it a Democracy or a Dumbocracy?

I’m watched reports from several new channels on this law but I am yet to see any serious and convincing discussion as to what is specially wrong with this law. Except I am Missing something, I am struggling to see anything wrong with a law mandating NGOs and media organization to disclose their source of foreign funding. Will that not ensure that such organizations are legitimate and not used by external forces to intefere and influence Georgian politics? It is my understanding that several countries like the US and Hungary have similar laws. Why in this case is it out of bounds for Georgia to pass a similar law? The best I’ve heard is that the law is similar to a Russian law. My response is and so? So if Russia has a law that for example guarantees free speech, it would be out of bounds for another country to pass a similar law because Russia has such laws? This is just looking like another orange revolution and we all know who were the people behind that and how that has since turned out.

@bohomazdesign725

16 күн бұрын

There is a reason why its worded "foreign agent" and not "foreign funded organization". "Foreign agent" in our post-soviet reality means "spy". So any NGO, including silly things like animal shelters, that gets donations from abroad will be forced to call themselves SPIES.

The US has the same law, whats the fuss about it

@KaralMarx-tb8tw

16 күн бұрын

Eu ruins is approach soon by viladimir Putin

@mishaknopkin2199

11 күн бұрын

@@KaralMarx-tb8tw Ridiculous. The first law about "foreign influencers" was adopted in our country ...... the United States of America. All organizations receiving money from abroad (>20%) should report to our American Authorities. All other sovereign Democracies in the World (Russia, China, India, etc.) used our blueprints.

The “divide and conquer” strategy They use it on middle east , Europe and now Asia. This strategy is mostly attributed to the Anglo-Saxon(Uk U$ CAN AUS) diplomacy, they simply applied it most effectively through history. "This strategy, and all other strategies that try to weaken others so we could overcome them, rule over them, is the strategy of our inherently egocentric, self-serving nature, that thrives on succeeding at the expense of others."

Russian bots using chat gpt lmao

In April 2022 I was in Tbilisi, in Georgia. I opened KZread trends in incognito mode, and 9 out of top-10 videos were in Russian language about how Russia was losing the war. And between videos there was an ad with men in masks with guns who asked to open the 2nd front with Russia. Now I see that the EU tell us how media transparency is bad for Georgia. Hm...

@zanizone3617

16 күн бұрын

Uhm, "spartakmoskva5708" 🤔 clearly an unbiased and trustworthy source of information 😂😂😂

@user-ky7hd7rr4c

16 күн бұрын

Thanks ...they are crying because they can't seem to be able to push Georgia into Chaos.

@spartakmoskva5708

16 күн бұрын

@@zanizone3617 Bro you can open incognito KZread with GE VPN and check my words yourself. I understand why you don’t trust the other side, but this is the case where own conclusion is possible after a double check

@spartakmoskva5708

16 күн бұрын

In April 2022 there were a lot of pro Ukrainian demonstrations organised where flags, badges, feeds with UA flags were gifted to any stranger. Meanwhile streets of Tbilisi were full of dog s*it. I asked myself - why the country which doesn’t have money to clean their main streets in their main city has money for pro Ukrainian demonstrations? My conclusion was - it wasn’t their money. And motivation of such destabilisation is pretty clear as the motivation to not let this funding transparency law pass

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

This law has zero things to do with transparency, Moskovitz. Nothing regarding transparency is even mentioned in it. We've had laws for transparency for ages already, all the domestic and foreign funding is already reported in detail to the government. This law legitimates ANONYMOUS REPORTS as a basis for shutting down press and organizations. Placing the power to do so exclusively in the hands of the Prosecutor and eliminated the need for any involvement from the court the judge etc. We won't let this happen

Georgian nightmare party.

Why is democracy dying just about everywhere?

@laykabayka

16 күн бұрын

Transparency is a bad thing?

@jonaswladimir6889

16 күн бұрын

​@@laykabayka. No not as such. But most dictators use it only when is suits them self. If everything was transparent it would be great. Is it great in Russia?

@aliahmadpasoon624

16 күн бұрын

​@@jonaswladimir6889 How is it a dictatorship if the elected representatives are trying to pass a law through the parliament? Just because it doesn't suit the US and NATO agenda, doesn't make it undemocratic. Also, every law has its supporters and opponents, just because some people are protesting against it in the streets, doesn't make it undemocratic.

@jonaswladimir6889

16 күн бұрын

@@aliahmadpasoon624 . Democracy can be fragile. You have to protect at all levels on all parts of gouverment and courts. Do you have 100% trust that a parliment in a country that are occupied at 20% are free to follow their voters wish fully? In Russia all oposition is forrign and unlawfull.

@laykabayka

16 күн бұрын

@@jonaswladimir6889 We have the same laws in the US to prevent foreigners from controlling the media, actually it's much stricter, so why are they protesting? They want China or some other country to secretly take over their media?

The EU & U.S want to be able to fund NGOS in other countries or political parties in other countries but restricts such funding in their own countries. This is the essence of this LAW.

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

This law has nothing to do with who can fund what and even transparency about who funds what. Those things are taken care of by our old laws implemented ages ago. This law gives the Prosecutor power to shut down any Media outlet or non-governmental organization on the basis of an anonymous report. No court or judge or anyone or anything else will be required. A scrap of paper and anyone that speaks against government is going to be under investigation, their property confiscated, their offices shut down, associated citizens under law enforcer's scrutiny + defamation. Soviet repression style.

@mr_rocbil

16 күн бұрын

Because that’s how they influence elections in Africa

Will Australia be joining europe too. Its worse than the euro song contest .

Congratulations to Georgia politicians to stand up for transparency and national sovereignty.

Who knew transparency regarding press and who funds them is “Russian Law.”

@kn0wmore126

16 күн бұрын

Exactly. Also, this law would expose any, also Russian, interference. Russia doesn't oppose this law, yet we do. It's obvious why that is..

@vincentbani7557

16 күн бұрын

very strange

@wozniakowski1217

16 күн бұрын

thanks for the insight, blakehfreeman without avatar and with one subscription

@zanizone3617

16 күн бұрын

​@@kn0wmore126yeah. The same country that invaded Georgia and is still occupying 20% of its territory is a big fan of this law! What a great endorsement! The olygarch who owns the ruling party and who has made all his money in Russia, will surely use it to expose all his shady dealings with the Kremlin, and nothing else. The guy is itching to send himself and all his pals to prison! I hear there's a Nigerian prince trying to reach you to offer you a great deal! You should call him!

Perhaps its time to change the defacto ruler..... kinetically, Just saying?

Joining EU would not lead to prosperity automatically. EU is toast. Why bother.

@laiXDSD

14 күн бұрын

join​ eu give​ a​ chance​, what​ current​ solution​ give​ more​ chance​ that​ eu?

@AP-ei4jt

14 күн бұрын

@@laiXDSD it’s a grassroots thing, the government or EU does not have any Hercules powers to move anyone out of poverty. They are selling you snake oils tricking you into thinking EU is utopia.

1:03 I think she meant "Political Descent" but I heard "Political Deceit" which is def something we do not want. lol.

@othwesjamabinju_

16 күн бұрын

Actually it's 'Political Dissent'

simple math - in Sakartvelo more vatniks who elected "dreamers"... so protest is a minority but loud

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

Not so. Their (Dreamer supporters') numbers have shrunk dramatically over the years. And after this law especially. The government went to great lengths to collect their supporters during their last rally. They used Budget funds and employed a lot of their people in organizing and transporting their (alleged) supporters for their last rally, and somehow the numbers of volunteer protesters diminished them.

Dream Party is just that, a dream party who's dreaming for Putin.

France has a law similar to this also

@epona1525

16 күн бұрын

It always depends on the government. Georgia is a little country, which stands between Europe and Russia, always in danger that Russia gains more and more influence. But many Georgians, specially the younger Generations, see their future in Europe/the EU. This bill can make it harder for them to become more connected to Europe.

@Aicy77

16 күн бұрын

@@epona1525In which way will this bill make it difficult?

@spartakmoskva5708

16 күн бұрын

@@Aicy77 Because it would expose that the West funds anti Russian narrative and that Putin was right about this

But originally it is an American law which Russia copied in light version..

@lukajalo8635

16 күн бұрын

The American and western law is aimed at countries like Russia, China Saudi Arabia, not the west and its allies

@axelaxel3321

16 күн бұрын

RuZZIan BOT

@spartakmoskva5708

16 күн бұрын

@@axelaxel3321 Nice to meet you. I am a human. What features do you support?

@nigelgarrett7970

16 күн бұрын

Try reading the American law, and see if you can spot the differences between it and the Russian / Georgian one. Here's a clue: DW does NOT have to register under the American law.

@nelsonmaingi1297

16 күн бұрын

@@nigelgarrett7970 Is DW a media organization or an NGO???

How dare Georgia demand transparency from NGOs!

@user-jk3ht5hn3m

16 күн бұрын

Naive

@univeropa3363

16 күн бұрын

@@user-jk3ht5hn3m Right, the actual true purpose of the law is to pave the way towards unification with Russia. I forgot.🙄

Smart Georgia, don’t end up like Ukraine!

Protesters think that the only obstacle towards the EU membership is this law. İf the UE wants to accept Georgia as a member of its union, why haven't they accepted Georgia to the EU for many years? What were obstacles before the idea of this law emerged?

@superdog2758

16 күн бұрын

Где грузия и где ес. Грузии чтобы вступить в ес нужно быть более демократичнее.

@overpope3510

16 күн бұрын

What are you trying to achieve by asking these questions? I'm sure you will find some great educational sources on European laws and regulations which are just ready for you to read. Something makes me think that the pursuit of knowledge and reasonable solutions is not on your mind although.

@Omega0850

16 күн бұрын

The Abchasia and South Ossetia conflict would be a reason i assume, which i guess is the main reason why Russia caused this problem. Also joining the EU also isn´t just a split second decision, it usually takes years until new Members are accepted.

@ProBroOfficial

16 күн бұрын

Because every time we had a bit of chance getting into EU, Russia ruined it all. Russia doesn't want us in EU so they have and they will do everything possible to prevent us joining EU.

West meddling in domestic affairs of Georgia! 84 of 150? Substantial majority decided, is it not an example of democracy?!

Long live Gorjestan!

Why would anyone protest against a law that forbids treason

Why adopt russian law. Let russia annex gorgia.Funny

Anyway human being forget easily, finally they will adapt as nothing happened 😂😂.

This much less strict than the US and UK laws on foreign agents. America was the first with this law since almost a 100 years ago and it’s even adapted it recently to be harsher. We have similar laws in Western European countries, so why can’t other countries ask for transparency? Isn’t transparency one of the tenets of democracy?

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

This law has zero things to do with transparency, there's not even a word about reporting funding or anything in it. Our old laws are the ones that provide transparency and have for ages! This new law allows the Prosecutor's Office to shut down any entity - media or ngo - on the basis of an anonymous report, with just one person's decision from the Office enough to launch investigations. No court, no judge is required anymore. This is how the repressions in Soviet Union worked.

Если Европа говорит не принимать этот закон.. тогда почему этот закон есть в США? Уже очень давно..

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

There is no such law in USA. FARA and this law are fundamentally different. Stop spreading lies

This law, Georgia learn from U$ , not Russia

People who think that was the only thing avoiding their entrance to the european union, are wrong.

@Old-George

16 күн бұрын

It's a nail in the coffin, there's no coming back from it.

Russia go out of Georgia 😡😡😡

"We will not submit to this law."

@Sziasztok742

16 күн бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

What a beautiful people. I wish you a successful integration with your European brothers and sisters.

If you receive funding from abroad,then yes you're foreign agent.What's wrong with that?

@rosit3839

16 күн бұрын

The bill doesn’t include the politicians fundings. When they start with the transparency of their finances this bill will pass unquestioned.

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

That's a ridiculous statement. The most revered and iconic non-governmental organization in our history - The Society for Spreading Literacy Among Georgians - was receiving funding from foreign citizens, which would make them "a foreign agent" according to this thrice damned law. In reality their funders and members were some of the most legendary people in Georgian history, who fought for restoring and preserving Georgian nationality and sovereignty, where an actual malignant foreign power (Tsarist Russia) was trying to erase it.

Show them FARA 😂😂😂

@TamarMebonia

16 күн бұрын

We've seen FARA. Fara demands transparency from lobbying companies. This law has nothing to do with transparency, we already have laws for that. This new law places power to shut down any media and ngo on the basis of ANONYMOUS TIP, like Soviet danoses during repression. Maybe you and yours don't see anything wrong with that, Svetochka, but we have different standards.

@svetakokareva9455

16 күн бұрын

@@TamarMebonia 😂😂😂 I don’t see any independent media in EU or in the US))))

Посольство США проплатило в очередной раз большую массовку, которая под вопли и гиканье расхаживает по Тбилиси. Проблема в том, что 99% собравшихся не знают, что они вышли «против закона об иноагентах», который был проголосован грузинским парламентом, но категорически не нравится посольству США, ведь тогда нужно будет тысячи своих НКО финансировать « в черную», а это большая проблема для Госдепа. В США и ЕС такие законы «об иноагентах» давно приняты, но в Грузии американское посольство готово засевать пачками долларов улицы Тбилиси, лишь бы как-то отменить закон. Но руководство Грузии прекрасно знает вышеперечисленное, они давно выбрали путь освобождения от диктата США, посему закону «об иноагентах» в Грузии быть!!! Посольство США пойдет в «пешее эротическое путешествие»…

@paulfenton734

16 күн бұрын

I think your tin foil hat might be a little tight.

@leonardell-bon7104

16 күн бұрын

Correct and pigs do fly.

Turkey will bring peace and order to Georgia and Armenia once again 😁😁😁

🇬🇪🇺🇦🇪🇺

Democratically elected government talking decisions why making so much fuss😂😂😂😂😂😂

@TalibanAtrocities

16 күн бұрын

Because those "decisions" are the Polar-opposite of the policies they were voted in to provide 🤔🤔🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Need révolution of blad

Protets, backed from western europe, no doubt, because now the media they own , must be registred :)

EU must act pro active, as always you are too late in Georgia too late in Ukraine this is how you support your partner countries?

Are they going to blame Hamas for this too?

At least georgia wont get violently invaded. 😅 with pro russia politicians. 😂

To all ignorant people who have never been to Georgia, I highly recommend Google, you will be surprised how many Russian big businesses there are in Georgia, what enterprises are controlled by Russia. But I’d rather not say anything about Turkish business.