How chimps, gorillas, and humans are related | Richard Wrangham and Lex Fridman
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Richard Wrangham is a biological anthropologist at Harvard, specializing in the study of primates and the evolution of violence, sex, cooking, culture, and other aspects of ape and human behavior.
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Lex giving us old JRE vibes
@TheEnderBand
2 жыл бұрын
Like jre on xanax
@AustinNovel
2 жыл бұрын
Lol it’s a little nostalgic b/c we’ve heard Joe talk about how much bonobo’s fuck 😂
@joshallen4848
2 жыл бұрын
Joe is a meathead. Entertaining as hell, but still kind of a meathead. Lex is brilliant and so much more of a deep thinker.
@dutchmastah07
2 жыл бұрын
@@joshallen4848 Lex is a true intellectual. Joe is a comedian. You can’t compare them wtf lol
@loucard4856
2 жыл бұрын
@@dutchmastah07 exactly
2:24: love that you've got a photo of Sigourney Weaver who played Dian Fossey in the movie of her life, instead of the actual conservationist 😂
@matthewcomeau2695
Жыл бұрын
😂that cracked me up too
@nicknoss5341
Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@truckerfromreno
Жыл бұрын
Shocking stuff. Very American.
I like how you just let them talk without unnecessary redirecting.
What makes Alex great is that he lets esteemed guests talk and stays quiet.
Pretty sure that is Sigourney Weaver in "Gorillas in the Mist" (2:40) who played Dian Fossey in the movie.
@andersemil5541
2 жыл бұрын
LOL yea i noticed also straight away
@hiroyopoetker
2 жыл бұрын
Me too, but maybe that was a legal picture he could use??? I too wondered why but also found it funny!
@mjfraser04
2 жыл бұрын
@@hiroyopoetker Naw. Pretty sure it was just a fuck-up.
@hiroyopoetker
2 жыл бұрын
hahahahhahhahahhah Thats! If so that hilarious!!
@kennyangel9552
2 жыл бұрын
Nah, I think he is just messing with us. Which I think is funny.
3:40 this man gets assaulted by a gorilla and casually goes "fascinating" humans are truly a dangerous species 🤣 🤣
Ever since Joe Rogan left to Spotify, Lex has been filling that void.
@Gatsu_Gambino
Жыл бұрын
He left Spotify too? So what is he doing his pod on? 🤔
@euj0
Жыл бұрын
@@Gatsu_Gambino learn to read bro
@Gatsu_Gambino
Жыл бұрын
@@euj0 I'm asking him.... what is he doing now? Don't be so sensitive
@euj0
Жыл бұрын
@@Gatsu_Gambino im not being sensitive. The original post didnt say Joe Rogan left spotify. You need to work on your reading comprehension.
@Gatsu_Gambino
Жыл бұрын
@@euj0 umm yes it did... and it was edited
Female primate know how to manage the males - sex and food. Males reciprocate with protection and hopefully at least a little entertainment. Thank you for all these wonderful conversations!!
@AT-wj5sw
2 жыл бұрын
We aren’t so different from them
@HkFinn83
Жыл бұрын
You didn’t listen to this at all. He states super clearly that chimps are not sexually competitive on the male side.
@MrCountrycuz
Жыл бұрын
Females domesticate the males.
@Z-nl3ln
Жыл бұрын
@@AT-wj5sw please men will say “not all men” when women tell them they only want them for sex, and then write this stuff 💀
@chopsyoutube
16 күн бұрын
@@Z-nl3ln well humans are apes
Lex, that was a brilliant question. Chimps and gorillas act like premature human adults in many other ways, so great question.
@S0ulsinner
Жыл бұрын
@@Nonenunnen the hell you smoking?
@dakotalowe1194
Жыл бұрын
@@S0ulsinner are you having trouble understanding what he said or what?
@S0ulsinner
Жыл бұрын
@@dakotalowe1194 what did he say?
"Make Love Not War" Bonobo Wisdom.
@ahsinoe4
2 жыл бұрын
They are just as Violent
@laza6141
2 жыл бұрын
@@ahsinoe4 just as violent as who ?
@ahsinoe4
2 жыл бұрын
@@laza6141 As All Primates, Including US!
@laza6141
2 жыл бұрын
@@ahsinoe4 No , humans are less violent than bonobos and chimps , there are many different hypothesis as to why this is.
@alek2536
2 жыл бұрын
@@ahsinoe4 In primate ethology, predation and aggression are relatively distinctive behaviors. If you are talking about aggression, bonobos appear to be relatively peaceful. Data shows they hunt and predate. "Make love not war" does not refer to hunting/predation. They are half as aggressive as chimps and more aggressive than humans. Human comparison is odd since culturally we have been putting substantial barriers to behavior with positive and negative reinforcers. Therefore a relatively objective comparison of the default forms will be interesting to see if you have that data.
Almost nothing is funnier then the,” I didn’t come from no monkey!” Argument then the argument .
@bucketstuck7137
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@ismailmounsif1109
10 ай бұрын
But you have no proof that we came from monkeys it’s all speculations nothing else give us physical evidence of a species evolving to a complete different species you don’t have none and just blind following your atheist scientists that you worship lol
@ismailmounsif1109
10 ай бұрын
@@bucketstuck7137give me proof of a specie evolving to a complete different species
@ItsRichyMo
8 ай бұрын
@@ismailmounsif1109 I'll give you 3 examples. 1) Some Whales have pelvic and hind limb bones in there body the pelvis is used for muscle attachment but the leg limbs serve no purpose and are inside the hind of the body. 2) Slow worms are lizards that look and move very much like snakes. They have tiny useless legs hanging from their bodies that serve no purpose and are so small that they couldnt help them walk if they were functional. 3) Galapagos tortoise have two very different shaped shells but are the same species. One has a function that allows their heads to lean back and reach up for food whereas the other allows limited movement as they eat from the ground. Bonus Example) Humans have a useless small organ that serves no purpose called an appendix. It is suggested that it was once used as a digestive tool for much hardy food groups like grass, mulch and tree barks which we dont eat anymore. There are many more examples that are very easy to look up online and here on youtube.
@kyu6938
3 ай бұрын
@@ismailmounsif1109 if you want proof just look at the fossils, there’s direct evidence right there
Keep it up Mr.Lex Jre introduced me to podcast with intellectuals You’ve driven that interest further for me I appreciate it greatly.
@ryandalion8379
Жыл бұрын
Same
But who did you think would win in a fight? Jane Goodall or Dian Fossey?
God, I could listen to this guy all day. What a story teller.
Lex is getting it done, thx dude
@jacobh869
2 жыл бұрын
Ur welcome
Lex has such good questions. dang
Does it even have to be explained how? Simply go to your local mall or a major event with a lot of people. Sit back, kick your feet up and watch closely. Heck, in MANY if not MOST cases I prefer "animals" to "people". Not even a contest.
This guy is an excellent communicator
at 2:42, that is a picture of Sigourney Weaver from "gorillias in the mist"
Very interesting. I never knew the Ape/ Human Evaluation tree.
Every human being and animal on earth is connected in a tiny small almost unseen way
@ChatGPT1111
2 жыл бұрын
The DNA strands and sequencing of trees is more like humans than not!
@ismailmounsif1109
10 ай бұрын
Why can’t you reproduce with them since you are so connected hahahaha you must be mentally ill to believe such rubbish
The thing between Hugh and Charlie and the branch. I've actually witnessed within dogs.
I’m not gonna lie I zoned out until I heard that the bonobos were scissoring each other
Lol - That's not Dian Fossy's picture. That's Sigourney Weaver who played her in a movie.
I love nature and science
@CodClip.bzr56
2 жыл бұрын
@SATAN 666 why?
@ismailmounsif1109
10 ай бұрын
@@CodClip.bzr56nature is an entity according to you right
Communication is the key !
I would have sworn that Dian Fossey's photo is that of Sigourney Weaver
Why does the guest purposefully keep is elbows visible the whole interview? Some kind of chimp power move?
When he mentioned digit my heart broke. If you don't know Diane fossey's story and what happened to her and digit please read up on it.
@spencerdickson9693
Жыл бұрын
I went Gorilla trekking in Rwanda last year. Amazing.
The only think is that the next spade might unearth a skull older that looks less like a champ,
It is not yet clear if or when genetic data might support, or refute, our hybrid origins. The list of anatomical specializations we may have gained from porcine philandering is too long to detail here. Suffice it to say, similarities in the face, skin and organ microstructure alone are hard to explain away. A short list of differential features, for example, would include, multipyramidal kidney structure, presence of dermal melanocytes, melanoma, absence of a primate baculum (penis bone), surface lipid and carbohydrate composition of cell membranes, vocal cord structure, laryngeal sacs, diverticuli of the fetal stomach, intestinal "valves of Kerkring," heart chamber symmetry, skin and cranial vasculature and method of cooling, and tooth structure. Other features occasionally seen in humans, like bicornuate uteruses and supernumerary nipples, would also be difficult to incorporate into a purely primate tree.
Absolute gold..."make love not war". Unfortunately us greedy bastards haven't learnt that yet.
He did he never think of that? I came to the same conclusion as Lex.
@joemidd2362
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the same immediately, but maybe that says more about us
Scissoring Bonobos
I loved Dian Fossey in Alien
we now know who to call in a planet of the apes situation
Not using all of the chimpanzee's Genome while comparing it with humans, is like telling the professor to only count the questions on a test you got right.
Make love not war 💜
Gorillas are hybridised with Forest Hogs, getting piggy with it.
Love the storytelling, wish the question was answered though. Make love not war.
This guy's imagination is in overdrive, but I definitely saw the guy with the top-knot in the thumbnail at Burning Man.
My immature brain forced me to make a really specific clip of this
Cultural evolution could take humans to the next level. The priorities of community and relationships and sex instead of war lol
5:06
Did I really just see a picture of Sigourney Weaver posted as Dian Fosse? Yeah,SW just played DF in a movie back in 1986...Anyway,there are unknown primates/hybrid humans in NA and SA to this day.
Lmao At first I thought for the thumbnail you chose Osama Bin Laden to represent the final evolutionary stage of Homo sapiens
In Vietnam they tell me that my face get dizzy, not the room. In America they tell me the room is spinning. 🙏 Sorry for the collapse 🤣 personally speaking
Hershel walker explained all this
My chihuahua does that also! Are we related ??
@genjidora8742
5 ай бұрын
yes, all life shares a common ancestor at some point. Probably early placental mammals millions of years ago.
Our cousins. Thank you.
@asanteyadakavenz
9 ай бұрын
How many people are you? 😂
Explain the origins of the missing link....Joeroganesse Knukleheadicus
I don't know what is my position while I'm sleeping
Make love not war. 😍
I was wondering when Lex will talk about love... spoiler... the very end
@Saiiisiii
2 жыл бұрын
I love that it's predictable he will talk about love 😊
Tell us about how our chromosomes fused? Can't be done in nature but mysteriously it happened with us..
@jameswright...
Жыл бұрын
It does happen in nature, your part of nature for a start, a human ape side it happened to our ancestors.
U showing a picture of an actress??
Without doubt I prefer lex discussion to Joe Rogan any day.
bonobos like bonobos, new from drake
@TheAverageSome1
2 жыл бұрын
Your profile pic lol
@ekdkldlflhyjlnjggg8134
2 жыл бұрын
Monkey me too…
Lex "mhmm" Fridman
isnt that the actress from the movie Alien lol
Cavemen were beautiful.
Scissor me timbers!!
They are not related if so why are they still living. If the traits are related then why we have them in our zoo
Interesting, but not really responsive to the caption.
Back in the old days, Chimps had long curly strands of hair, like Rabbi's, whilst other members of the ape family would brew corn liquor and dream of life on other planets! fact
Are the Orangutans related to humans as well?
@oneill765
4 күн бұрын
I think so. We're all "great apes" so id assume so.
we are NOT RELATED... case closed
@vladtheemailer3223
Жыл бұрын
No, we are.
@chopsyoutube
16 күн бұрын
where is your evidence buddy?
❤😮😅 yes we are so related and they are our cousins
The lineage actually appeared to have started with the common ancestor of orangutans. They evolved before gorillas and we share 97% of human DNA with them. Orangutans evolved in Indonesia around 12 million years ago. The common ancestor with orangutans beboped around Eurasia and probably multiple forms until it made it to Africa and the lineage split off gorillas and then chimpanzees. Given the plethora of hominids in Europe and Asia The real question is going to be where did humans split from the common ancestor... Here's another quirk. Orangutans don't walk on their knuckles and they spend up to 9 years teaching their children before they're on their own. The gestation period of an orangutan is 8 1/2 months. Chimps gestation. Is a little less than 8 months. Chimps wean their offspring at about 4 years..
@Dr.Ian-Plect
5 ай бұрын
"The lineage actually appeared to have started with the common ancestor of orangutans" - if you are referring to the taxa in the title, it doesn't. Chimps, humans and gorillas start with a common ancestor _after_ the one shared with orangutans. On what basis do you state orangutans evolved before gorillas?
He left out Bigfoot @Lex
Awesome
What about Sasquatch/bigfoot?
@brodiemorris5971
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and leprechauns
@JUSTJOElc
2 жыл бұрын
@@brodiemorris5971 that was my attitude a few weeks ago but they're real. Check out channels NvTv, Bigfoot Odeyssey, SnowWhiteBigfoot but there's thousands of channels. It only takes one of thousands of reported sightings and encounters for them to be real. Also thinkthunker is brilliant as he analyses videos of them.
@monkeytennis8861
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUSTJOElc don't talk shite
@JUSTJOElc
2 жыл бұрын
@@monkeytennis8861 they're real. Start with the Sierra Sounds, then thinkerthunker and then go onto the thousands of sightings...or don't and wait until the government is forced to confirm their existence one day
@DaveCompton5150
2 жыл бұрын
@@JUSTJOElc If Bigfoot were real, some ex-military hunter would have capped one by now and become famous.
I know the dude in the thumb nail
Imma go collect my 250 k now thanks lex
The missing link is 👽
at Prestoncross on the mo. Have a buck?
What? No Orangutan love? Had an incredible interaction with one once. Talk about keeping your eye, they seem to look in your soul.
@kurt6447
2 жыл бұрын
Cool. Where at?
@lpluva1
2 жыл бұрын
@@kurt6447 at the L.A. zoo unfortunately, it ended up being the last time I ever went to a zoo because of the connection. When I got to the orangutan enclosure the male just sat in the corner eating fruit loops and couldn't be bothered with anything else in the world. But the female was sitting near the glass and for whatever reason I sat down next to next to the glass also, she looked at me and scooted over. I put my hand up on the glass and so did she. We spent the next twenty minute just looking at each other. The sadness and loneliness I felt in her humbled and angered me to the point of rage, all these assholes just gawking, to lazy to see one in the wild and to stupid to see how cruel this is. I still think about it regularly.
🤨
I didn't know.
Did you know monkeys dont understand pointing. You can point at something and they dont get what you're trying to tell them. A dog can tell because they too use pointing. A cat will just look at your finger. You can teach a monkey sign language but they dont understand pointing lol so weird
@cmonbruh7139
Жыл бұрын
But chimpanzees can be trained to point
@cmonbruh7139
Жыл бұрын
They did experiments around a decade ago of trying to get chimps to point at boxes with food in it. After a while it became natural almost to them
What about the Orangutans
*RICHARD WRANGHAM! *OKAY! ( *LEX ! ?? ) I'd like to KNOW? The 3 Apes ?? ( 4 ? ) Their PALM prints? Finger prints? - (Foot , Feet , too ?) The relationships between them .. & even BETWEEN - ( comparisons! CONSENSUS of? ) ... us Humans? Thank YOU? *Peace ..
My next door neighbor 🤣🤣🤣
@shizshyne8141
2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure there is some hidden racism in this comment 🤦🏾♂️
@joshrunge2238
2 жыл бұрын
@@shizshyne8141 your pretty wrong 👎
@ismailmounsif1109
10 ай бұрын
@@joshrunge2238haha remember Charles Darwin became racist because of evolution since it depicts the black people as the closest to the monkeys
The picture on the screen is an artist's rendering. Six different artists will give six different renderings. There is no fossil record to verify these assertions. No gradual small changes from apes to humans. None. In fact the fossil record is discontinuous not gradual. The evolutionary tree is a canard that evolutionary biologists do not agree on and interpret in a multitude of ways. The time frame to make the necessary genetic changes from monkeys to humans is insufficient. Evolutionary theory cannot explain how something comes from nothing. It cannot explain the fact that random genetic changes bring either no change or negative outcomes. Natural selection simply doesn't work as a mechanism in a prebiotic world. Evolutionary theory is wishful and circular and faith based. Simply not a robust theory. Surprising how many so called scientists stubbornly cling to it with a religious fervor.
@adriantaylor84
Жыл бұрын
Lol good job copying and pasting all the creationist talking points
@ryanskynet6423
8 ай бұрын
@@adriantaylor84 you’re making a monkey out of yourself,bud. Repent !
That lady got bodied bu gorillas?
I want to be a bonobo.
One small decision, by the Apes, say to climb down the tree and walk on legs, probably led to Human beings who are capable of destroying the planet. One small decision, over time, led to a drastic result !
Monkeys figured it out before we did. Woooooow
The non - bald Rogan experience
The also eat other monkeys, some times to near extinction. Let's not brush over that one...People like to say "we are a lot like apes." No, we ARE apes.
There is absolutely zero evidence of this.
" I went out with two women, Kelly and Barb" ... That story could've taken a whole different route than to the jungle to study gorillas..
@buckchile614
Жыл бұрын
I thought he said Bob
@Z-nl3ln
Жыл бұрын
Wth. I’ll never understand how u got that idea. Why do people instantly relate women to something sexual.
@axismundi2142
Жыл бұрын
@@Z-nl3ln you're the one who obviously made a sexual association there. I was merely referring to a book reading session in a park
@Z-nl3ln
Жыл бұрын
@@axismundi2142 haha u are really funny kid
Based
Anytime an American needs educating they bring in an English man 😂🏴🏴👍🏻
Of course she was playing a game, I don't know why he dismisses it as high school behavior when it's the most primate moment of our lives
What about orangoutangs tho?
I want to make a prediction that the next split in evolution like this will happen when/if we move to Mars and leave behind the people on earth
Gd vibes
Lol 🤦♂️
🙌🙌🦄🦄🌈🌈