Full podcast episode: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nIZ2zdV9htaapMo.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: kzread.info Guest bio: Paul Conti is a psychiatrist.

@lppoqql

Жыл бұрын

Hey Lex, why dont you talk about how Asian men are castrated and humiliated in the west? This will gain a lot of attention I bet. Might even get you fame in Asia.

If Hitler was a serial killer then fine maybe this analysis would make some sort of sense. But he had a movement behind him. There were huge socio-economic factors behind the Nazis. It wasn't just Hitler having a chip on his shoulder

@Dan0rioN

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it took more than "I hate them & so should you!!" Either hitler was a damn good salesman or there were some actual valid reasoning behind his logic

@shanezanath2092

Жыл бұрын

Agree. You're dead on context is required. Hitler took advantage of a post WW1 Germany that economy was in shambles, and he manipulated his followers by using the Jewish people as a scapegoat. It's not possible to assess Hitler's psychology without this historical context.

@SortaSalty

Жыл бұрын

@@Dan0rioN “valid reasoning behind [Hitler’s] logic”, not necessarily..

@9FisterSpit9

Жыл бұрын

@@SortaSalty what is reasoning? And why is it even applicable to a very unreasonsble thing?

@beng4647

Жыл бұрын

@@Dan0rioN Found the Nazi! 👍

The better question is 'was Hitler an unusual person, or a common person type in a position of unusual power?' Americans concentrate on demonizing Hitler - fair, but forget to ask 'how similar to the rest of us was this guy?'

Who else thought the thumbnail was a younger Jordan Peterson?

@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns

2 ай бұрын

I thought it was an older Ben Shapiro.

Every day, Lex learns more of what it is to be... human.

@xexmatu7s

Жыл бұрын

one day he might pass as one

@mikeg3692

Жыл бұрын

Hes more human then human

@mikeg3692

Жыл бұрын

More human than* human

It is quite amazing how inconceivable the idea of socio-economic conditions and forces playing a role in the rise of people like Hitler is for Lex. Individual psychology doesn't operate in a vacuum, it's intertwined and conditioned by prevailing socioeconomic conditions and relations. Individual psychology is in fact far from the main determining factor in the development of history, it can play a factor but only within definite objective limits.

@mauzekoni5196

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like I found a fellow materialist.

@ourcats816

7 ай бұрын

Bravo, well said.

@Justin-pp3pl

7 ай бұрын

psychopaths can rise in any system or condition so it's irrelevant to analyze the external factors. They rose back when kids were being sacrificed to gods in tribal times, and will rise even in the age of computers and rocket ships.

@italianmiltyfriedman6264

6 ай бұрын

nice comment

@BigKnecht

5 ай бұрын

Well you're listening to gods chosen people.

To use Lex’s own analogy of the flame of jealousy versus the blaze of envy, it could be said-based on Conti’s viewpoint/description-jealousy could instead be regarded as the spark. The blaze, or the flame-the thing with the capacity for destruction-is separate from the spark. If you make a spark where there are no conditions for a flame, nothing will happen. Likewise, if jealousy arises in a place where there are no conditions for envy, then nothing destructive will come of that emotion. The spark and the flame are apart of the same equation, but they are not one in the same.

@ShadyRonin

Жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. Jealousy is the spark to the larger flame of envy. If you don’t put the sparks out quick, you risk the flame being born.

@joneslive586

4 ай бұрын

Good extension of the example

This guy is the most correct about narcs. I’ve always felt there was a directed hatred of others in their function. Not just selfishness. They come after you no matter what you do

@audhumbla6927

Жыл бұрын

yes, narcissism its so wild, its so very obvious to those of us who lived with them as parents for example. battle born again is a good yt

@ttjesus4959

3 ай бұрын

I actually think that it's their self-hatred and insecurity. I think that their inability to ever take responsibility for anything negative mixed with their inner hatred of themselves results in them doing what they always do when they feel responsible for something negative: They project it all onto you. And in this particular case, their inner hatred is strong. Therefore, they project strong hatred at you.

I think Conti is way off base... for one, he actually, by definition, misrepresented Envy vs. Jealousy.

@internetj3r

Жыл бұрын

Genuine question, Do you guys have other peer reviewed sources or maybe another actual psycho analysis of hitler to offer for better more accurate info? I do agree he’s a bit sketchy with his definitions on some of these things. Would love to learn more.

@jhonklan3794

Жыл бұрын

He is on base, but did not explain himself well. Its clear that Hitler did not care about being right or wrong. We underestimate how much our base impulses motivate our decisions. We often use the veneer of rationality or principles action to mask our uglier impulses. Hitler was ashamed and enraged at Germany's humiliation in WW1. Frankly, the whole of Germany was. Hitler was conduit for their rage; their collective animus in living form. His race ideology was constructed around this resentment and animus. This is obvious as the Nazi ideology evolved based on Hitlers changing preferences. For instance, he made the Japanese honorary "Aryans" when that made no sense even according to his own ahistorical theories, simply because he liked them. So it was not really principles or reasoning that motivated Hitler, those were a byproduct of his true motivation--envy and shame.

@MrCLUTCHPANTS

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think the textbook definition of the words really matters. It’s the idea he’s trying to get across. And if you can decipher his language to the point where you understand what he’s saying, than whatever words he chose were adequate. Arguing with someone by nit-picking his vocabulary seems like a weak position

@NY51663

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Mr._Infamous

Жыл бұрын

@@jhonklan3794 you're wrong my friend. There's much anthropological evidence that East Asians decended from Aryans. Look into the Yellow Emperor of China. Said to have had "Golden hair". Also, Ghengis Khan was tall in stature and with Red hair and blue/ or Grey eyes. We've been purposely lied to about history. Same with the "losers" of WWII. Many things are not accurate. Just as the "out of Africa" theory has been debunked but there's a lid kept on that info as well. The world is not what it seems my friend. The true information is out there. The Mu people were said to have more cuacazoid features than East Asian. History is a lie and was written by the victors.

I would highly recommend: Hans Blumenberg - „Lebenszeit und Weltzeit“ (Lifetime and worldtime). In this philosophy, he elaborates the idea, in which his narcissistic mania is explained as aresult of the realisation (or philosophical conflict) that the worldtime (which we observe as infinit) is going to outlast his Lifetime (which is our life expextancy). And in realizing this, he commits his last atrocity. If his ontological spirit won‘t live forever in the form of the „ewiges Deutsches Reich“ the whole world (and it‘s time) shall go to hell with him. Greetz from Germany. Love your Content.

This at the heart of the human tragedy: the worst things in history were done by people acting out of a sense of duty, by people did not generally relish the violence and the atrocities they committed - but compelled themselves to do so out of a sorely misplaced sense of moral obligation.

I've never quite understood these obsessions with psycho-analyzing Hitler as if he was some sort of pinnacle of evil. Hitler was one man who played a role within a huge mechanism that is a reoccurring theme throughout history. It's not Adolf Hitler who is important in understanding an evil mind. And in many ways he was likely not at all like he's portrayed in conversations like these. It's Ordinary Men who are ALWAYS the people who carry out the stimulation of evil. It's really things like cult psychology, orphan psychology, group-think, ideological possession, desperation, perversion are all the just some of the main ingredients in understanding evil. It's so much more dynamic and deeper than mere jealousy, envy, etc.

envy is the sin of letting jealousy get out of hand. so lex was right on there. just like gluttony is letting hunger and drive get out of hand, wrath is letting anger get out of hand, etc. dude is right that there’s a human emotion underlying the toppling into the “sinful” or “evil,” to use their word, state. but lex is also right that one leads to the next. the catalyst is what lex seemed to want to talk about but they didn’t get that far cause the guy disagreed lex has a lot of love and grace in his heart that i had up until i gave in more to cynicism. i hope to get back to that way of framing the world

@maryspriggs8435

Жыл бұрын

My friend, you’ve come along way merely by acknowledging this !

@kwg5044

Жыл бұрын

Word

@bapsy078

Жыл бұрын

No he's wrong. He just doesn't get it

@Mrmtl100

Жыл бұрын

what an amazing comment. Thank you

@Llamasondeck

Жыл бұрын

I think envy is when jealousy is driven by hate. both envy and jealousy share the quality of covetousness, but they're at different levels. jealousy is manageable because it is not driven by hate, but envy is there because of hate, there doesn't need to be a slippery slope starting from jealousy because hate will find any means to justify itself.

I wonder what Kanye has to say about this?

@thomasoneil798

Жыл бұрын

😂

@The-KP

Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares what West thinks.

@whysoenvious

Жыл бұрын

I think Jesus loves all including all if you watched the full interview that was his main point

@orlandoyero7151

Жыл бұрын

Kanye really messed up with the Hitler thing but tbh it's BC he's just stupid and doesnt know history don't know handicapped people would get gas chambered any race.....

@benneden2580

Жыл бұрын

Don't give Lex ideas

The shock was not that it was different. It was just bigger, more industrial, and more extreme than what came before. But you can find numerous antecedents in history, in the various nationalisms, and sometimes in religious texts and actions.

Sometimes Lex gets stuck on the high school point. Obviously, envy and jealousy are in the same vein. The point is that everybody feels jealousy, but not everybody becomes destructively consumed by it. The envious person is the person with other damage/issues that allows the envy to develop within them. The way Lex is stuck on it, inaccurately implies that anybody jealous might become envious.

Stalin was a similar discontent who had a harsh, controlling father. His inner sense of lack grew into deep paranoia, and a complete distrust of everyone around him. If we are an untrustworthy and ruthless person we assume everyone else is the same, and out to get us. If we are dishonest, we assume that everyone else is similarly minded, and trying to rip us off. With Stalin his paranoia led him to have both friends and enemies murdered. This in turn, logically led him to believe everyone was 'out to get him'. He died alone in his Dacha and his manservant, afraid of reaping the wrath of Stalin by disturbing him, didn't enter the room where the man lay dying. A little poetic justice I think, given the numbers of people who died under Stalin's regime.

The Fuerher is everyone's favorite vilan Im surprised Marvel hasn't made a superhero character out of him.

I agree with this guy. Jealousy is borne from admiring another. Envy is borne from hating yourself.

@Randsurfer

Жыл бұрын

Backwards.

@kwg5044

Жыл бұрын

@@Randsurfer perhaps. You might be right. The point is there is a gradation in severity, whichever order you'd like the words. I think that's what he was expressing. I could be wrong again though. Thanks for talkin' it out

@Randsurfer

Жыл бұрын

@@kwg5044 I don't understand what "gradation in severity" means in this context.

@kwg5044

Жыл бұрын

@@Randsurfer Okay. One more exchange, and then I'm out. Too much other stuff to keep learning. So, from what I'm seeing, they were talking about one kind of jealousy/envy being sort of surface level. "Look at that. I wish I had something like that/ or one of those.. I wish I were, I wish I might.." that kind of stuff. And that's not even a jealousy to the degree of covetousness. Which is more like, "I want THAT. I want to have Your dog, Your wife, Your title in the company. I'm gonna try to take it from you." Then even worse (more severe) is "I hate myself. I hate my life. Everything is shit. I hate your happiness. I hate your success. I hate your little life. I hate that you remind me of me in some way. I wanna watch it all be taken from you, Not because I want It. But because I want to watch your life burn like how mine feels." I don't actually think it was the point og their conversation though. This whole clip. I think this was an unintentional sidebar: this discussion about the possibility of whether or not there might be some interplay between the grades of jealousy/envy as on a scale of the same phenomena or related in nature enough to jump rails from one to the other OR if the root of these motivations are different enough that they are truly not the same kind of thing. I think this was a waste deciding which word fit the idea better. (Example: comparing yourself to a picture of a beefcake model and maybe feeling jealous or a little 'less than' in comparison VS. arranging for that model's face to be slashed and force-fed lard until they were fat, pocked, scarred, and ultumately dead. . ..are those the same KIND of jealousy/envy? Is one rooted in a different thing than the other? Can the simpler one lead to or leap to the more severe one? Is there zero room for jealousy and competition? At all? There were other factors they were weighing in on too. Social pressure, sadism, etc... but where did Hitler's self-hatred come in to play? It's the first I've seen of this guy, and of course Lex is awesome and curious, but something about this guy strikes me as "K-Mart Peterson". I could be wrong. I frequently am

Interesting discussion and parsing of the terms. I think of envy as a verb, formulating hopes or plans for something to bring the target down, where jealousy is more a state of being, still negative but not weaponized outwardly. For me, jealousy is more about the pain of perceiving one’s own comparative shortcomings, before that pain is mitigated through self improvement or sabotage of a target. Loved what lex said about celebrating others!

@kwg5044

Жыл бұрын

We were just talkung about that in another comment. I know words matter, and maybe we could argue which qord bests fit which expression, but we did get the message anyhow.

the fighter jet part is something else

You can use the little flame of jealousy to shine light on others and guide your way to acceptance or betterment, or you can feed the flame of jealousy with self-loathing, blaming others, and hate to take away from those who have something you desire… I agree with lex, jealousy and envy are very closely related.

Envy is the fear of missing out in a competitive survival scenario where if they get it, you don't, you starve. So we have a fear of other people getting things, meaning that we won't, and as society becomes more affluent and abundant, these things become more and more irrational.

@JS67137

Жыл бұрын

You can see this being a problem with intangible things that can't be bought such as how other people percieve you.

Take a drink everytime they say "benign"

@thomasdap8659

3 ай бұрын

Now I’m druknk thanks Defor that 😢

it wasnt envy that drove his view of jewish people it was disgust

Big non sequitur. How does envy effect evil? What's the mechanism, causal chain? This gut just puts that out there as a given, axiomatically, with no rational of why that could be the case.

was about to comment asking if you could upload full podcasts again lol, didnt realize i was looking at this amazing mans clips channel

How about giving equal time to Mao and Stalin?

Ideological evil is often supported by elaborate arguments and beliefs. Does he really think Hitler didn't deeply believe in what he was doing? Does he really think he couldn't have mustered arguments for the final solution?

One is jealous of what he or she has. It is protective. Envy is the coveting of other's property. I cannot be jealous of what is not mine. As absurd as saying: I am envious of my own success. The word jealous has drifted into the word envy, which is not commonly used. Hence Lex's difficulty in understanding it. Paul has just made up a new meaning of jealousy: "benign envy". Its real meaning is: the emotion that stimulates protective action of one's own entities, properties, domains of power from unwarranted attention or threat.

The ai sock puppets swarming Lex’s comment section are the most impressive part about this channel. How do I get my hands on that tech??

Jealousy is seeing someone achieve what you already wanted, you want to be a successful farmer. You like your girlfriend. Envy is wanting something simply because you see someone else has it. "I only want it because they have it and Im entitled to have it." "It has nothing to do with whether or not I desire it." One is authentic the other is parasitical. It's that toxic friend you hesitate to tell who you like because you know they will start to like them.

Where there is no vision, the people perish.

"we are products of the soup we swim in" 👍🏼

I wanted more from this conversation

The Seven Deadly Sins are pride, greed, lust, envy, wrath, gluttony, and greed. There are other sins, like adultery and jealousy.

I knew Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro were close but I didn't know they had a baby together.

I am starting with the option that he was born as a normal introverted person, who was a dreamer, wanted to be an important person, able to have total control of his life and may had a sexual restriction that creates a filling of inferiority that he compensated somehow with a sense of some kind superiority. Love for Germany, and his participation in the first world war, and the need for retaliation for losing the war corresponded with his need to retaliate for all his failures in his life before the war. The desire for a great Germany and to punish all "real and imaginary enemies" fits with his complex of fillings of greatness and his total failing as a young man. He believes that his talent was not appreciated by his teachers, but the cross of the first class was given from the same kind of people. He went after 1924 through "A Spiritual and psycho metamorphose"

So many similarities between hitler and characters involved in modern day terrorism. There is a connect between the two in history with the mufti in Baghdad fascinated with Hitler and meetings were frequent. Fascinates me how much filtered through to today.

Consider Chaos, negotiations, constraints & need for growth

Very interesting discussion. They are both right in a way

Jealously can create positive gains,,,envy leads too war's and loss

can we also do the history of the biden administrations evil? more relevant today

Just as you try to eliminate the wild grass or flowers in your own garden to keep the others, good ones from dying, one can argue the justification for all the evil was just that, trying to "perfect" one's own (you know who) garden ( in this case nation), from a post-modern perspective, logically, this is not wrong, but ethically (thats where we slap the tag evil, good, bad etc) and morally, thats a completely different story. So if he could easily convince himself that it was for the good of his nation thus for greater good by completely ignoring the moral side of it, that just makes Hitler a complete psychopath who was completely out of touch with his counscious and not worthy of even discussing about it. I'm really curious if he ever felt any guilt or not, but I strongly believe he was just a regular psycho who happened to have enormous power in his palm, so not even worthy of reading and discussing his psyche after all these years.

@ltmund

Жыл бұрын

Hitler was many things. But to truley understand him, and be forewarned of a repetition you have to accept that he really believed what he was doing was for the greater good. The early 20th century was completely racist. Science had no dna evidence, just bigotry formed by bigoted 'intellectuals'. Hitler and many others, blamed the ills of the world on what they perceived as lesser races. Throw in revenge and you can start to understand that Hitler was driven by a grossly misguided ideology to improve mankind.

@billscannell93

3 ай бұрын

He had no remorse. His will and testament was basically an encouragement to his followers to continue the war against the Jews after his death. He didn't even care about the Germans--even during the early stages of the war, he told his generals that, if the Germans lost, they would be proved the inferior people and deserve to die out. Defeat would prove them unworthy of his leadership. (If it had not been for Speer and others disobeying his orders, he would have had the whole infrastructure of the country blown up.) He also continued to order the executions of people close to him mere days before his own death.

Honestly why jordan is treated like an intellectual polymath is beyond me. He’s just a shock jock. I couldn’t give two shits about his speculations on history, or on anything for that matter.

@thomasdap8659

3 ай бұрын

I’m sorry. Do you think this is Jordan Peterson ? 😂

What we should be focused on is how the right in America is circling deeper and deeper into fascism

He is so right - *Jealous Guy* is one of John Lennon's best songs !

They should delve into the essence of evil, which I believe is selfishness along with the absence of empathy for others. The disturbing thing is, we all have a certain level of selfishness within us. Therefore, we call have the capacity for evil. What combats that, and gives us some level of conscience, is the capacity to understand and feel other's pain and issues.

Lex running out of topics we’re now debating “Hitler’s evil” 🥴

I have an avoidant personality. That, or something else, makes me incapable of jealousy. However, it also makes me incapable of normal ambitions or passions.

I need that mindset for our business

I agree 100000% lex, the seed is already planted in all of us, it's up to us to feed it, and if life throws a bunch of shit at us, the seed will grow easier.

I can see that Friedmanovich fully accepts the ideology, he only regrets being the victim

I don’t think demagogues like Hitler exploit pre-existing envy. I think they ignite envy in them as a way of speaking to their jealousy, resentments, etc. For many of these people, I don’t think they previously had a desire to inflict harm on those that had something they wanted.

I challenge Lex to go a full year without mentioning or discussing hitler or nazis in general

@bloodcurdling3581

Жыл бұрын

It is a phenomenon that is really interesting to people. We don't mind

@firesoy

Жыл бұрын

literally impossible lmao xD

I thought this was Jordon Peterson from the thumbnail

To me, desire & drive are normal & healthy, but demands & theft are abnormal & unhealthy. That's the delineation.

My favorite part of this clip is where they gloss over all the things happening to people now decades later at the hands of the people who won this conflict.

I think where evil is concerned, all roads lead to and flow from a sense of oblivion. This state of mind can cause you to become dissociated from yourself and thoroughly alienated from society and paves the way for multiple bad scenarios for the subject and/or others.

I clicked expecting Jordan Peterson but non the less an amazing video

You are absolutely correct Lex, it is a slippery slope.

Love this convocation! I only just found this video as I'm only just getting into listening to podcasts and clips as I drive. My thought process, we are but domesticated animals, by choice. I feel that many of us have the capability to do great evil, the evil is not foreign, the act of restraining evil is the rather "new" skill we have mostly all adapted to. The act of being able to be evil is and was critical to our survival, as it is still at large with many other animals in the kingdom. We as a species no longer need high survival tactics in day to day living, but I believe if you could hurt, mame or murder someone with no consequences, and remove the psychopaths from the experiment, I believe some extremely unsuspecting individuals will surprise a lot of people. The moral of right and wrong still exists, but I guarantee the little old lady walking down isle 4 will get shoved every time as people want to move past her. That loud neighbour will get a rock through their window every night. I don't think many of us are honestly and wholeheartedly good, I think many of us understand morals and agree with laws and think prison is not a great place to spend a lot of time. A successful species needs evil characteristics. The ability to do something wrong to something else to gain themselves.

for me, regarding Hitler, I believe he was jealous and envious, in extreme ways. I totally agree that they stem from the same "fire" as said here by Lex...this manifested through his rejection as an artist. I believe that was when he had his mental fragmentation satiated. This manifested by the stealing of art from the jewish people during the war...he literally became an "art critic", burned, destroyed what he thought was "good" or not. And this is exactly how he viewed the jewish people...as objects for his criticism...Jewish people are successful. This was also a turning point in his regime, with the demeaning progroms of segregating and de-ligitimitizing those who clearly had successful businesses, or lives in general, as in "displaying hatred" on the windows of successful jewish businesses. ...out of his lack of his own successes...because he couldn't accept the fact he was a failure at a basic level. His ego was crushed...And could he have made a crucial change in his way of thinking? What would you suggest to antisemitic tropes of today? Especially those who deny anything happened at all... A classic example for today: Putin wanting to "denazify" Ukraine as an excuse to his madness, all while having a "Wagner group", and bombing the Babayair site, and even to the restrictions he has implemented upon the current Jewish people, who live in Russia, wanting to leave Russia??? And may God bless these people who are persecuted all the more...this behaviour is unacceptable on all levels. Just my opinions here...

@divineoverhand5307

Жыл бұрын

When he was on top, he was more successful than and powerful than any jewish or 99.99 percent of the people, and he won a medal in the war and was awarded for his bravery. So he was not an unsuccessful people, i dont know where this narrative comes from, at the age of 25, he did more than 99.999 percent of what today's average 25 year old did. Obviously not everyone's life story is going to be full of stories of success from the early childhood to adulthood. Majority of humans fail again and again before they succeed. This isnt an accurate point in my opinion.

@kellyismyname777

Жыл бұрын

@@divineoverhand5307 are you saying that my point/opinion isn't an accurate one or yours? Just to point out, I wasn't trying to achieve a point...but rather an observation of behaviour that mimicked his distaste for art that didn't belong to him...and since he wasn't received as an artist...I just don't believe in coincidences. Thats all... I personally don't subscribe to wanting to know to the 99th percentile of hitlers supposed "success" ratings...thats not on my list of "inspirational people I want to learn about", I was stating a possible reason for his rage towards people who were unjustly vilified because they were an ethnicity of people. To which I ignorantly thought was basic knowledge... ...and I totally know about failures...story of my life, but I am content with what I have and with what I don't have. I don't need the world telling me, I need this or that to be somebody...success isn't limited to achieving, its about realizing what matters the most... And anyone who wants to "be on top", needs to understand the reality of eventually falling, not to mention the higher one climbs, the harder it gets to breathe...because even air is competing for the same position.

The mental gymnastics these 2 go through to absolve Jews from any fault is truly uncanny

lex seems genuinely nice

Good, full of academic psychology. But this thing about free will is easy for those who are free, but not a given for someone who is trapped by something. A big problem is that just sating people is making statements about what the reality is for everyone, then it becomes unreal, like their ideas about free will.

Hatred toward other groups is not caused by a farmer being envious of his neighbors, it is fomented by demagogues like Hitler, and more recently Trump.

Replace Hitler with Griffith & this is even more profound lol. RIP Miura he really managed to create the archetypal megalomaniac

I’ve always kind of pitied Hitler. If all of his actions are a manifestation of his emotions, imagine how much he must have hated himself. He was a wretched soul. He didn’t die in the First World War but his humanity did.

7:30 in and stopping because this guy seemingly just wants to disagree with Lex at every turn, yet Lex is making infinitely more sense lol

Personally, I'm sick to the teeth of Hitler - who will drive a stake through his heart?

Still not ready for captcha 😅

Yea.. gonna have to disagree with lex here. There's a difference between natural jealousy vs. intentional breeding of envy. The difference is choice and what seeds you choose to water

Jealousy, envy... How about he said himself... My nation is in danger by enemies within. Who invented socialism and social democracy?

I guess there's no 'right' so there's no 'bad' either rationally, although it's different from the irrational empathy you might feel when seeing someone else's suffering for example

The significant difference in the number of human deaths attributed to the Stalinist regime compared to those under Hitler’s rule invites deep reflection and analysis.

The stock market crash put Hitler in the position to achieve his goal.

I think often the moral justifications we ascribe to our actions are a posthoc rationalization of our base impulses, rather than being truly born of moral principles. I think this is true for Nazi Germany. Hitler and his ideology were a conduit for the resentment Germans were feeling about being humiliated in WW1. Nazi ideology existed to rationalize this resentment. You can see this if you look into the construction of the Nazi state. If you read hitlers theory about the Aryan race, its completely nonsensical and devoid of any historic substance. Its clearly based on his own racial preferences; who decided were part of this Aryan super culture was not based on historic or even ethnic ties. The same with his race `'science". All results were made to support his batshit theories, with or without evidence. So clearly, he did not really care about fulfilling an ideology. Or rather, the ideology did not come first. It was constructed around his shame and racial resentment.

Hitler is often portrayed as a loser who had low self esteem and was insane. I don't see that as possible. While some of his actions were insane, context is missing in that argument. Hitler was in charge of Germany when the population was much more religious. Christianity was the dominant religion in Germany and was a part of peoples lives in a way we don't see now in western societies. So, given that Christianity elevates Christians as being the only people who "will be saved", that seed of exceptionalism already existed and was nurtured in that society prior to Hitler by the church. Germans wouldn't have as difficult a time accepting that non-Christians were not as important as them, and that imensely helped Hitler vilify Jews. It isn't an argument that's mentioned but imagine selling others as sub-human if the religion of the land at time of religious dominance in people's lives contradicted that notion. It would not have been impossible. Hitler led Germany for many years. The Germans are not stupid people. Hitler had to be extremely intelligent and cunning to convince them to follow him to such extreme evil. Unfair war treaties, economics and sanctions against Germany had a large role too. However, as witnessed by the Vatican helping Nazi's escape Europe after the war, he leveraged religion, propaganda, technology and anything he could to rule the German people. I'd love to see Lex do a podcast on the role of Christianity in mass killings, including the Holocaust. Another example of the role of the Vatican in mass murder how Christianity was used to vilify Indigenous people in North America by European invaders by labelling them as "Godless savages". It eliminated guilt in that genocide for the invaders. The church, again in lock step with the state, even stole and murdered the Indigenous children for decades. Hitler needed the teachings of the church to sell the hatred he peddled.

Hitler was one of the world biggest bullies. Had problems at home, and took it out on the kids at school; so to speak.

Sebastian really changed up his material

Whether he thought he was doing right what he believed in allowed the people in his military to do evil things

This guy looks as if Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro morphed into one person.

Idk if there’s such thing as benign jealousy… seems convenient to his argument

There is no good and evil, there's just convenient and inconvenient.

I can't get over how much Paul Conti looks like a cross between Bobby Cannavale and Jordan Peterson.

If he felt it was necessary he would just kill them not torture them .

Nobody can grasp the immensity that was A.H. Certainly not this guy.

The same identity politics “game” we’re playing over here in the West

Very interesting 🤔 I think Narcissism played a role in it. Xxxx

I wonder if he [Lex] sees the staggering similarities between Hitler and Benjamin Netanyahu. Benjamin Netanyahu equally feels he is doing good and sees nothing wrong with the complete anhailation of Palestinian people.

Stalin was 10 times worse but Lex is absolutely obsessed with Hitler

Must read: Psychology of totalitarianism by M Desmet

What if there was a red ant hill next to your dog house. Biting your dog and annoying it. You are gonna exterminate the whole mound. you think you are doing good by protecting your dog but then eradicate a whole colony of a certain species that’s “below” you. Is that what they were trying to get at? (Hitler is still evil btw) But I never looked at it from that perspective

Beautiful explanation by Conti. It resonates with me a lot how Hitler did not genuinely believe he was doing good, but instead lived a life filled with deceit and refused to make way for the truth. To look at his empire and not realise its evil sounds like deep denial.

My opinion is that given equal stimuli, our responses are governed by our character. Our character is a complex amalgamation of genetic predispositions and life experiences and, in my opinion, is dominated by the genetic contribution. Those who have done evil in the world at scale - as did the subject of this clip - have shown all the dark triad traits necessary to fuel their megalomaniacal drive to be the apex predator.

@coimbralaw

Жыл бұрын

Word salad.

@macnchessplz

6 ай бұрын

And keep in mind there was genetic inbreeding in his direct line.I also believe genetics are at play.He was also doing hardcore drugs (meth,basically), abused and beaten as a child,inferiority complex,Mother was an ice queen … He was a Malignant Narcissist and had other disorders.

@Top10Chess

5 ай бұрын

Too many words

@Top10Chess

5 ай бұрын

@@coimbralaw😂

Imma simple man, I see “Hitler” and “psychology”, I click

Lex is totally confused. Wanting something someone else has is different in kind, not degree, from wanting something someone else has and wishing them harm for it. The mere wishing them harm is the flame to the fire of doing harm to them. The initial feeling of jealousy is more akin to just being a flammable substance. You need extra stuff, different in kind, to enter the equation to jump from jealousy to envy.

His mannerisms look just like Jordan Peterson's

stand up for yourself!!