How Big Food and Pharma Make us Sick and Fat For Money - Calley Means

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I'm excited to sit down with Calley Means. We talk about America's biggest scandal, antidepressants, and much more. Make sure to listen to the full interview to learn more.
Calley Means is the cofounder of True Medicine, built around the idea that food (and lifestyle habits like exercise and sleep) is medicine. The company’s goal is to make tax-advantaged spending on healthy food and exercise seamless.
Calley invests in healthcare companies working to transform the sick-care system, and is also involved in multiple consumer startups. Formerly, Calley co-founded Anomalie with his wife, which was acquired by David's Bridal. With a background in public policy, he graduated from Stanford and Harvard Business School and started his career in politics. He is active in groups such as Council on Foreign Relations, Teneo, and Stand Together.
We discuss the following:
0:00 Intro
2:38 All about Calley Means
6:39 Medication, nutrition and systemic influences
13:16 America's biggest scandal
17:06 Soda and Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP)
20:26 Impact of food industries on public health guidelines
24:01 Nutrition research
29:15 Blood markers
35:16 Medications for seniors
39:08 Low income earners and health outcomes
44:00 Kid's nutrition
48:31 Antidepressants
54:10 Calley's company
58:28 Where to find Calley Means
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  • @NutritionwithJudy
    @NutritionwithJudy3 ай бұрын

    Our practice stands for wellness for all. Here's how to support yourself with metabolic imbalance and inflammation: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dWmL2amDepTdqcY.htmlsi=1vE5PskT_Khip1F0 (comes with a free guide too). Here's how much to eat on carnivore (also with a free guide): kzread.info/dash/bejne/rKetysh-o87bhdI.htmlsi=jlnQ6rS0PkVElklT. Finally, here's a resource on the case for carnivore (also with a free guide). kzread.info/dash/bejne/qYB8ucRmlrDJf8o.htmlsi=CA5MgdtEIjBkOYmT No excuses. Take the power back and start healing.

  • @WastelandMama
    @WastelandMama3 ай бұрын

    It may never happen, but I will be patient…One day, Layne Norton will say that he was wrong about defending the processed foods/flexible dieting to the degree that he does. He always cites these studies on moderation and it drives me crazy.

  • @williammccartney4833
    @williammccartney48333 ай бұрын

    Thanks Judy! for all you do for us .

  • @vikitheviki
    @vikitheviki3 ай бұрын

    How about a world movement to sue them all out of business?

  • @jodyjackson5475

    @jodyjackson5475

    3 ай бұрын

    Dr Sean OMara has talked about doing just that

  • @JennifertxCarnivore

    @JennifertxCarnivore

    3 ай бұрын

    Yep, people need to take them to court!

  • @coffeemachtspass

    @coffeemachtspass

    2 ай бұрын

    Tempting, but they’d be replaced by the following week with more people doing the same thing. The only way out is for individuals to exercise their own choices well and tell everyone around them how to do it. Eventually the money will have to follow the public demand.

  • @megankwisdom
    @megankwisdom2 ай бұрын

    I live in a large metropolitan city and whenever I drive by a construction site I always think oh this must be a new factory or tech center, nope it's always a new hospital, they're popping up EVERYWHERE

  • @leavesofchange
    @leavesofchange2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Judy. I was carnivore which was great, but it wasn't enough; and watching your videos made me think it wasn't necessarily my fault that I wasn't carnivoreing hard enough. I brainstormed many ideas then finally I began Andy Cutler Mercury detox - it is working very well. heavy metal poisoning seems to be the problem with me. xxx

  • @NoonyNewborn
    @NoonyNewborn3 ай бұрын

    Mind-blowing talk! Thank you Judy and Calley! This world is unbelievable 😫 Great information, God bless you 🙏🏻💓🥩

  • @salberthal88
    @salberthal882 ай бұрын

    Calley and his sister, Casey put on the BEST interviews. God bless them

  • @alanlierz3745
    @alanlierz37453 ай бұрын

    I escaped the matrix. Thank you Jesus

  • @Citizenhelper

    @Citizenhelper

    3 ай бұрын

    Exactly how I feel

  • @heyheather111
    @heyheather1113 ай бұрын

    Wow, what an eye opening and informative interview. Can’t wait to read the book!

  • @NutritionwithJudy

    @NutritionwithJudy

    3 ай бұрын

    Yes, Calley knows his stuff!

  • @therealjenniferrr
    @therealjenniferrr3 ай бұрын

    Nice, Casey is his sister right? She was on Dr. Berry's YT recently. I'm loving all these people I've not heard of before coming out of the woodwork (for me lol). It makes the fight feel a little less daunting.

  • @therealjenniferrr

    @therealjenniferrr

    3 ай бұрын

    Haha ok watched to end and then you said her name again and confirmed it. 😅 Hopefully you have her on too.

  • @Jennieadams1979
    @Jennieadams19793 ай бұрын

    One of the best interviews I've heard!

  • @rwaltz4491
    @rwaltz44913 ай бұрын

    Outstanding interview! Thank you!!

  • @FocusedFighter777
    @FocusedFighter7773 ай бұрын

    Truth !!! And maddening.

  • @ClassicJukeboxBand
    @ClassicJukeboxBand3 ай бұрын

    Both studies about olive oil are correct. They are good for you, and most of them are cut with seed oils.

  • @NutritionwithJudy

    @NutritionwithJudy

    3 ай бұрын

    lol

  • @omazlife4229
    @omazlife42292 ай бұрын

    I'm 68 and went for some diagnostic testing a few weeks ago. I was told to bring all medications, in their actual bottles, with me. I am on zero meds, fortunately, but the waiting room was filled with folks (mostly older) and many of them had gallon sized Ziplocs nearly full... the visual of that really hit home!

  • @genesismccormack7540
    @genesismccormack75403 ай бұрын

    Thank you for shedding light on this. Honestly, the interview has my blood boiling! I can’t believe how absurd people “in charge” of the food are. Lunchables and ketchup count as Fruit in a school lunch!?!? WTH!😤No wonder kids can’t sit still in class and they think they all have add and learning disorders. It’s absolutely criminal what those greedy ppl are doing! Just yesterday i went to the cardiologist with my mom and the dr said she had “good” cholesterol but was trying to decide if he wanted to put her on a statin or not…and he didn’t like the fact that I asked him if he checked her particle size or just straight cholesterol. We did not leave with a script and he did end up order the test to check her particle size And her insulin levels(not just the blood glucose).

  • @Jennifers_HappyPlace
    @Jennifers_HappyPlace2 ай бұрын

    🥰 My goodness, Judy! This was amazing! Thank you for your work!💜

  • @TheKadeRose
    @TheKadeRose3 ай бұрын

    Amen! Thank you Judy!

  • @TheKadeRose

    @TheKadeRose

    3 ай бұрын

    I’m on a carnivore diet. I eat about two pounds of ground bison per day.. sometimes a pound and a half. I’ve had a lot of health issues over the years, including being predibetic for many years.. I cannot seem to lose weight. (I’m 72 years old) though I have lost inches. I’m 5’5and 3/4 and I weigh about 200 lbs. I really want to lose the weight. Is there something else I can do? I started doing carnivore a year ago (in February) but went off to keto for a few months.. I also self diagnosed with SIBO, and the veggies caused swelling in my abdomen and a lot of discomfort and fatigue and lethargy. Should I just keep with the diet.. and be patient? I’m okay with that if that’s all I need to do. I’m good at sticking with something once I understand that the results will come.. eventually.. ❤

  • @TheKadeRose

    @TheKadeRose

    3 ай бұрын

    Oh! And I’m on NO MEDICATIONS !! Yay!!

  • @Jennieadams1979

    @Jennieadams1979

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@TheKadeRose I would say stick with carnivore! Sometimes our bodies go through phases for reasons unknown. It could be because you're healing in some area. Maybe check to see if there is an underlying infection somewhere? Also, I'm curious to know if you're under eating perhaps?? I'm not a huge fan of tracking all the time, but tracking your macros for a few days may help you get a more realistic view of what you're eating. If you realize you're eating lower fat then try to up that and lower protein a little or vice versa. Congrats on no meds 🎉❤

  • @TheKadeRose

    @TheKadeRose

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Jennieadams1979 thank you so much for the encouragement! And YES! I do intend to stick with the diet! I’m sure I do have plenty of fat.. I do make pork belly snacks and I render suet to cook my bison burgers in. I pretty much have to stick with ruminant meats right now, though I do have an occasional chicken thigh (skin on) or pork chops or pork ribs. I eat until I’ve had enough.. so I hope that’s all good. I was thinking just what you said.. that I’m probably healing my gut.. and over time things will get better. Again, thank you for the reply and the encouragement!

  • @marnieginsberg6597
    @marnieginsberg65973 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much Judy for bringing Calley on to share this information! It is urgent info.

  • @mannyquiero6044
    @mannyquiero60443 ай бұрын

    Somehow the masses fail to see the obvious.

  • @danlemmon2739
    @danlemmon27393 ай бұрын

    The question is how do you get healthy when you live in poverty? I am sure I am not alone on this disparity facing many that are forced to rely on the allopathic medicine model. I feel very frustrated that I think a new approach needs to be implemented. I would love to use the many different modalities that would make my life functionally better. Methylation testing, microbiome testing, using fecal microbiota transplants. Detoxing heavy metals, parasite removal protocols. The reality is to highly optimize my physical, and mental health would probably take an investment that most can’t afford. I am blessed that I am aware and well informed of the toxic environment we are living in. This perplexing problem has to be dealt with at a grassroots level. Escaping this situation requires a conscious population collaborating at a tribal, not for profit approach. How many podcasts and KZread videos does it take to sounding the alarm?

  • @tuyendo7409

    @tuyendo7409

    3 ай бұрын

    So you believe you can live healthy if you are not in poverty level?

  • @christicostigan

    @christicostigan

    3 ай бұрын

    Greens and beans and grains, cheap and healthy.

  • @powerguiller

    @powerguiller

    3 ай бұрын

    Upgrade your life, stop being lazy. Eat meat, salt to taste, hydrate and repeat.

  • @dieselbourbon3728

    @dieselbourbon3728

    3 ай бұрын

    Ground beef and eggs. Salt, butter and water. Buy other meat on sale whenever available. Stop eating for entertainment and boredom. Eating is for fuel and nutrients only. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's doable if you change how you view food.

  • @dieselbourbon3728

    @dieselbourbon3728

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@christicostigan I feed grains to my cattle to fatten them up. They are the last thing a human should eat.

  • @andrewpizzino2514
    @andrewpizzino25143 ай бұрын

    Hell freakin yes they do. There is no honor, no Hippocratic oath in American medicine. Do your homework and go your own way. Unplug

  • @brianruckle98
    @brianruckle982 ай бұрын

    I love this guy…….. good honest people do exist today with a ………,,,, ….. back bone!!!!!!

  • @vpfund
    @vpfund3 ай бұрын

    Interesting thing happened as I was preparing to go outside for my workout. Put on my headphones and paused this video on my iPad and opened up KZread on my phone. For the last three years the video I was listening to my iPad queues up on my phone. Didn’t do it this time. I tried six times in a row and the video didn’t load so I had to do a full search. It’s almost like google didn’t want me to see this… nahh must have been a glitch lol

  • @scottstevens6380
    @scottstevens63803 ай бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @azurec6001
    @azurec60013 ай бұрын

    Brilliant and true ❤

  • @michaelgalaxy
    @michaelgalaxy2 ай бұрын

    This is such an interesting and insightful interview. Wow.

  • @tuyendo7409
    @tuyendo74093 ай бұрын

    We just have to calling them out 💙💙

  • @ccmusic2249
    @ccmusic22493 ай бұрын

    Hey Judy! Question: suppose someone cant eat beef, what would be the next best way/the best alternative meat options to get full nutrition on a carnivore diet? Thanks in advance! Keep up the great work!

  • @StanDupp6371
    @StanDupp63712 ай бұрын

    You should only get diet advice from a real Ph.D in nutritional biochemistry with awards and honors and or a Nobel Prize with a long term track record of being right such as Roger J. Williams, Frederick Gowland Hopkins, Fred Kummerow, George H. Whipple, William Parry Murphy, Edward Adelbert Doisy. All 6 would say the same that Linus Pauling said that meat, poultry, fish and eggs are good for you in moderation and that dairy is ok in small amounts if you like it and are not allergic to it.

  • @ethanhill7732
    @ethanhill77323 ай бұрын

    Hey Judy, can fixing a Folate deficency make a big difference in healing process on Carnivore?

  • @JennifertxCarnivore
    @JennifertxCarnivore3 ай бұрын

    Here is something I have to mention here. Calley Means is awesome but I do not agree with broccoli consumption! I agree that natural iodine is depleted from our soils, but I firmly believe that this push of humans consume large quantities of cruciferous veggies is really harming human health and has drastically caused this excessive high rate of iodine deficiencies! Everyone is told eat lots of cruciferous veggies (broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage, asparagus, brussel sprouts to name common ones- but google cruciferous veggies as there are at least 30 of them), but cruciferous veggies block the absorption of natural iodine found in foods! Everyone is told cruciferous veggies prevent cancer, but that is NOT true! Every time I ask people who have any form of cancer, fibrocystic breast masses, polyps on their gender internal organs, cysts on their internal gender organs, PCOS, hormones issues, nodules on thyroids, I ask them, “do you eat cruciferous veggies” and they all say “YES!” I have done this so many times in comment sections with carnivore interviews and they all say yes! Cruciferous veggies should be banned or have a large warning label on them that they damage the thyroid, cause cancer, and all the other issues listed above! Before I switched to carnivore, I ate broccoli daily for 6 years with half a chicken skinless breast, and a little of whole wheat noodles. In those 6 years I had a build up of fibrocystic masses in my chest. Then I started getting huge very painful cysts with one as large as 2” x 1”, and many smaller ones around 1”x1”. I became fed up with docs saying about breast cysts and fibrocystic breast masses , “it is normal,” “nothing you can do,” “we don’t know why it happens,” “diet does not cause it,” “it can turn into cancer,” “it is a disease that may not turn into cancer,” “you can’t reverse it,” “eat more plants,” “saturated fats makes it worse,”. ALL NOT true! I started researching on my own and found out fibrocystic breast masses swell and occur due to seeking for natural iodine in the body. All organs need it! Cruciferous veggies block absorption of iodine!! Saturated fats are VERY GOOD for the human body and helps heal all on carnivore diet and avoid plants! I jumped right into carnivore with zero plants and sure enough my fibrocystic masses started shrinking. I added a drop of Lugal’s iodine 2% or 5% to a glass of water at the start to help build up my iodine deficiency as well. I am now 1 year 6 months into carnivore and all my cysts have been gone, and I barely have any fibrocystic masses anymore. All shrank and almost all gone. Everyone that replies to me saying they had fibrocystic breast issues they all said they ate cruciferous veggies too because we are told to by docs!!! But the fact that people with any cancer also have been eating cruciferous veggies isn’t good and red flag that cruciferous veggies are causing all this due to blocking iodine! And broccoli alone has over 100 natural toxins in it alone, besides it blocking iodine! Avoid! Avoid all plants to be honest! Look up cruciferous veggies as there are at least 30 of them! Google it to see! Stay away from cruciferous veggies! Docs, please stop telling people they are good for us! That’s my rant on that topic! Say “no” to cruciferous veggies! Go carnivore! I am carnivore for life!

  • @Layla-df7hp

    @Layla-df7hp

    3 ай бұрын

    Thank you for saying this. Broccoli was one of my go-to foods as a vegan. I would literally microwave it and eat it with pasta sauce almost daily. After 9 months of veganism, I developed a breast cyst that wasn't there before at just the age of 19. Haven't been vegan since but it's been around 5 years and it's still there. It's been identified as noncancerous twice with ultrasounds. Now I'm trying to supplement iodine to get rid of it, in addition to ketovore/carnivore. I suspect I've been deficient a long time, like most Americans. I'm also trying to avoid being burdened with too many bromide detox symptoms (the fatigue is REAL, no wonder bromide was used as a sedative in the past; on my second day of drinking 2 drops Lugol's 2% in water, I took a deep nap in the middle of the day which I never do). I'm currently reading The Iodine Crisis and next on the list is Iodine: Why You Need It, Why You Can't Live Without It.

  • @insertmyidentityhere

    @insertmyidentityhere

    3 ай бұрын

    This. That stuff has destroyed my thyroid, gave me a goiter!

  • @JennifertxCarnivore

    @JennifertxCarnivore

    3 ай бұрын

    @@Layla-df7hp you are just more evidence that these cruciferous veggies are so damaging and dangerous! People need to stop consuming them, and all those websites and docs recommending them need to stop! It’s complete misinformation and fibbing saying they are good when in fact they are extremely harmful!

  • @JennifertxCarnivore

    @JennifertxCarnivore

    3 ай бұрын

    @@insertmyidentityhere which- did you consume lots of cruciferous veggies too? Tell us which ones please. The more that see people talking about it the more people will stop consuming them.

  • @tuyendo7409
    @tuyendo74093 ай бұрын

    It looks like we want to be in charge in some one’s kids diet but the parents Where is the parents in this conversation?

  • @jenduhe47

    @jenduhe47

    2 ай бұрын

    The parents don't think processed food is bad. They think if it is made for kids, why would it be bad? They think of it as kid food and if they are eating it, they are getting what they need They think there is no connection between diet and mental health/adhd/asthma/behavior and such. They think if the child doesn't look overweight, they are fine because they are just burning it off. They think if the child is overweight, it is genetics. I work in schools and I can assure people that things are not fine. Sadly no one asks me!

  • @tuyendo7409

    @tuyendo7409

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jenduhe47 Things are changing now little by little, social media will have an impact on people knowledge to understand what is a proper human diet

  • @Chris-tv1ev
    @Chris-tv1ev2 ай бұрын

    A lot of people recommend the carnivore diet what do they call it the lion diet check out testimonies

  • @chadzilla45
    @chadzilla452 ай бұрын

    Hmmm. maybe being motivated by profits shouldn't be how we operate as a society. We should discourage and disable that kind of greed, not reward it with power, control and luxurious lifestyles. The problem has always been the system, not the incentives. The incentive of capital accumulation is the entire basis of our current economic model. We need a ground up restructuring of the way our economy works or else we are just spitting into the wind. How we do that? We don't, it basically has to fall apart at a national level. We can only take care of ourselves and try to educate others how to eat properly.

  • @grace683
    @grace6832 ай бұрын

    How do these people sleep at night knowing what they are doing to people by making them sicker .

  • @christopher3d475
    @christopher3d4753 ай бұрын

    Ketchup is a double whammy, it's also high vitamin A. Sugar is part of the problem for sure, and I know you've had Dr. Smith on regarding 'vitamin' A toxicity. I believe the excessive 'vitamin' A content of our modern diet is also contributing to diabetes. As an example, we eat dramatically more tomatoes now than 100 years ago. They didn't even start to become part of the Italian diet, for which they're widely known, until the late 1700s.

  • @NutritionwithJudy

    @NutritionwithJudy

    3 ай бұрын

    I was shocked to learn how much sugar ketchup has! No wonder kids love it.

  • @therealjenniferrr

    @therealjenniferrr

    3 ай бұрын

    There is no vitamin A in tomatoes though, it has beta carotene (precursor) which the body has to convert. It's NOT a 1:1 conversion and you would have to eat a LOT of ketchup. Vitamin A is found in animal foods and your body doesn't have to do any conversion. That's a moot point, it's the sugar that's the problem.

  • @christopher3d475

    @christopher3d475

    3 ай бұрын

    @@therealjenniferrr No, you don't understand how 'vitamin' A gets in the body. ALL 'vitamin' A starts out as plant carotenoids. What is called the 'animal' form is simply there because animals eat plants or other animals that eat plants. 1 carotenoid molecule is converted into 2 molecules of retinoic acid and its metabolites in us and animals. Tomatoes are one of the worst plant foods you can eat. 'Vitamin' A also promotes diabetes through insulin resistance and a host of other degenerative processes. Judy has interviews with several people who outline its dangers.

  • @therealjenniferrr

    @therealjenniferrr

    3 ай бұрын

    @@christopher3d475 I stand by what I said, there is no vitamin A in tomatoes. This is factual. I know exactly what Judy has talked about and it's always in regards to liver, which actually has vitamin A in it. I'm not advocating for anyone to eat tomatoes, I'm just stating a fact. A precursor is not the same as the actual thing. This is like saying folic acid is folate, it's not. We have to be careful what we say, as words mean what they mean. It would be like saying someone is deficient in vitamin A and telling them to go eat carrots. They would have to eat a LOT of carrots to get their vitamin A because the body would have to convert. It's just inaccurate. Nothing more to discuss on this, have a good one.

  • @christopher3d475

    @christopher3d475

    3 ай бұрын

    @@therealjenniferrr You don't have an understanding of vitamin A. It's NOT a vitamin, but a poison called a vitamin. And it's there because you or something you ate ate carotenoids. No carotenoids (beta carotene, etc.), NO 'vitamin' A. Saying tomatoes don't have retinoic acid, the 'animal form'', (or its various metabolites), is slight of hand and dishonest.

  • @tuyendo7409
    @tuyendo74093 ай бұрын

    The question could go another way How do you live healthy when you don’t live in poverty? Because you can fall in to the situation of too much pleasure so go figure

  • @booswalia
    @booswalia3 ай бұрын

    We are mammals. We're supposed to know what to eat.

  • @therealjenniferrr

    @therealjenniferrr

    3 ай бұрын

    Humans over complicate things.

  • @jphone9200
    @jphone92002 ай бұрын

    they want to kill us and the sheep downvoted me recently for saying this LMAO

  • @kernlee7
    @kernlee7Ай бұрын

    Pharmaceutical Solution = oxymoron?

  • @zbawieniejestwieczne9013
    @zbawieniejestwieczne90132 ай бұрын

    Pleae don't say nonsens like these are good people it's just that the system makes them evil. Doesn't work like that. People are evil by their own will. I won't even listen to this guy because he still is not honest to himself. He doesn't want to go against them so makes up pathetic statement. Oh they are not evil. R ............. IGHT !

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