I have to say this video is funny as shit I can do 2 million on my engineer you know how you do 2 million don't follow other people's builds 😂😂😂😂😂😂 can you are dead wrong about average would you consider average an idiot that don't know how to play a fucking game calm the fuck on dude this is 2022 get your head out of your fucking ass 😂😂😂😂😂 Star Trek online is a joke the game is a joke it is the buggiest most shittiest game on the planet for the fact there's so many damn bugs that developers decide I don't know they're never going to fix they just keep on adding more crap to it 😂😂😂😂 then breaks the game 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your insightful comment and look forward to seeing you post content with regards to that sick 🔥2m DPS engineer build you have! I took a look at your channel and couldn't find any mid-range or high end builds shown. Please let me know where this content is!

@cryptie4165

2 жыл бұрын

If @deathdealers comment about him doing a 2M engineer run were true, he would have a video on it ... @casualsab has actual proof of at least 4 players doing over 2M DPS ... I'm def not a fan of dps chasing, but it seems to me that @deathdealers only dps record is him just running his mouth about something he can't accomplish in game ...

@deathdealers2919

2 жыл бұрын

@@cryptie4165 😂😂😂😂😂😂 NOOB

@cryptie4165

2 жыл бұрын

​@@deathdealers2919 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 because you know I'm right ...

@deathdealers2919

2 жыл бұрын

Streaming it right now right now I have exactly 4829769 mil in damage 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 DAM NOOBS

Thanks for doing this video. One of the hardest things, when teaching new players, is that the chart topping DPS records were not just because of 1 person, and their build. So many content creators make videos, bragging about how much DPS their build does, but not telling their viewers that it wasn't possible without an organized team. Over the years (I have had to take breaks from the game due to health issues), I have taught a lot of players how to do different types of builds. But the worst thing to do is try to explain to someone that spent hundreds of real life money on the game, that even though they copied the build they saw, they are not getting those numbers without a proper team. Your honesty, and willingness to clearly explain how each role works to make those numbers happen, is going to help a LOT in teaching fellow players. I will be sharing the link to your video a lot. Because of health issues, I have had to take breaks from the game for years at a time. And since I am disabled, and have no income, I can't afford to buy a lot of the stuff needed to keep up with min/max builds. In the past, I was able to just by spending 48+ hours in the game grinding from my medical bed. But when my health started getting worse, it became harder to keep up with the min/max community. This also made it harder to do what you did here, and share different builds that explain how each role works. You video will be a big teaching tool. A few years ago, I started focusing on doing true budget builds, so that new players would have a platform to begin working towards their full, endgame builds. After being gone for a few years, I have had to take time to relearn some of the changes in the game, while I was gone. But I always loved teaching others. And this game has allowed me to do that over the years. But there is an area where I have lately been falling a bit behind in. I was wondering if you would,please, be able to help. If you have the time, and are willing to, would you please do a video that shows how to do true budget builds for tanking, and support? True budget builds are ones that don't use event ships, weapons, or gear, because those are only reasonably available if you were able to do the event(s). Also, they don't use C-Store, Lobi, or Lockbox ships and consoles. Crafting, rep, fleet, and episode rewards are the only things used in a true budget build. If you could make a video on these things, it would really help a lot of new players, that don't spend real life money on the game, to start with a decent, affordable, platform to start with. I have horrible internet where I live, so it is really hard for me to work on things like this. I will even be willing to help if you would like. Sincerely, Razar.

I agree with "Phil's" comment, 'the (time) investment is not not worth it.' I'm at best at the 50K DPS on just one of my toons. I don't have all the consoles that was mentioned and the EC prices on the exchange is just ridiculous.

First part of this video is why I pay zero attention to the ISE parts of Build Videos, as that is what the build does in a dedicated team. I wish they would do like "Wanted" solo on elite of something, as it is a better representation of their build. Thanks for making this btw.

@Astrothunderkat

2 жыл бұрын

Solo borg red alert would be a neat way to measure dps. The large breaks in-between would emphasize piloting. Solo pickle fights could be another way to measure a users "true" dps

@lewisc1114

2 жыл бұрын

I concur. Show me your Wanted DPS parse, then I’ll be impressed. If this shows off anything it’s how well organized your team is, not how good of a build you have.

@KalijahAnderson

2 жыл бұрын

I actually use Wanted Argala Elite as my basic DPS test. My highest so far in there 242k DPS.

The average player only needs to be concerned with getting to or above 50k DPS, and the requiring factor on that is the way they built the episodic missions. I shoot for 100k on all my toons. That's the only chasing I do.

I'm chilling out with a lot of those top player in our discord. And every time I hear them talk about their optimisation I think I could be on that top player list too... but then I think fuck it... the (time) investment is not worth it :D

I try to not be too elitist, but one did slip through regarding "Are Torps OP". Gonna follow that up with another video in the near future to dive into that topic a bit more.

@Plan_Tain_STO

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to share all of this fantastic information! You go into great detail and this should really clear up the mystique surrounding high-end DPS runs. Great job, please keep up the great work!

@i_nosc0pedjfk.227

2 жыл бұрын

This man don't know what 12x20 is without help oof

I get it. Tell people engineers suck to lead them off the trail and avoid the competition. We all know they are actually mega OP.

Great vid, alot of valuable info here. I think with most things, to be elite at something, it takes alot of time, dedication, effort and failure to really set the table to be the best/ top 1% in/at something.

thats why i think the max DPS from only one player is kinda nonsense. Timeruns from the whole TFO would make much more sense and could expand the mission schedule from only ISE and HSE (idk how ppl can run these million times with out getting heavy depressions) to many More.

DPS measuring in sto is flawed and inconsistent. A 300 second solo fight against a trio of tact cubes would yield a consistent sustained DPS measurement, instead of the clicky fest it currently is.

Hmm, get a third of the damage of a 2 million DPS build? I'll take that 600k+ DPS build please.

Good video. Thank You.

This is a really interesting video, came up in my recommendations, I’ve been trying to get my DPS higher for sometime now. Through watching some really good build videos and with a little help from friends online my Prometheus phaser build hits somewhere between 70K and 80K DPS. I still consider my build incomplete. One thing you mentioned in this video that I’d like some clarification on, you mentioned timing on clickies? Is there a preferred order that you activate abilities in? Do you activate all abilities at once or only certain abilities at a time?

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

Many abilities need to be used at certain points in a run or only under certain situations to get the most value out of them. For example, lets say you have the Agony Redistributor (AR) console on. The AR console is marked on a target, and will deal a portion of the damage you do to hat target to up to 10 nearby foes within 5km. So knowing what targets are good to hit that on will allow for much more dps potential from it in a run vs someone who runs it on their spam bar. It's basically figuring out what conditions each ability is best under, and waiting for those conditions to maximize the impact of that ability. Many people either don't hit their abilities at all, or just spam bar everything. Both of which can result in poor ability usage.

I'm happy with 100k DPS purrsonally. :)

+1 sub and thumbs up. thank you for doing this.

The magic words here team composition and team practice, i wish people would understand that it's those things that make the records and not just the builds they fly, so they don't get frustrated copying the high end builds you or others use for lots of money and hope to get the same results, and when that doesn't happen even hate on the likes of you! Great content!

A great video - helped me understand reasons why some of my attempts at increasing my DPS have not led to any gains. Thanks

The term "excessive" comes to mind. Honestly, as a veteran of STO since day one, I do not understand the DPS record-breaking meta. So much time, effort, and in many cases ridiculous amounts of money is put into it that it can't be worth it. You can complete elite difficulty content with free ships and free builds, but people continue to find the best possible build despite the game not increasing in difficulty as the builds get better.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

It's a result of STO having no long term endgame. Once you complete reps, what is there really to do? People that chase DPS have a goal number in mind, compete vs other players, or just want to see how certain builds/ships do. It creates an endgame that attracts part of the playerbase.

@ODST_Parker

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB We all know Space Barbie is the true endgame, and that grind never ends.

@SteveRobertsUK

2 жыл бұрын

DPS chasing is just another end-game goal. I have many, one is levelling toons that cover every faction species in the game, another is DPS with an aim of getting to 160k, and as someone that pugs, I've got to 127k ISA and 130k ISE. Once I hit 160k, I'll look to get 200k, and look to more like Hive. If I don't feel like going for those goals, I have plenty of others to do on any of my 56 toons!

@johnn8373

2 жыл бұрын

End game should be PVP honestly it takes true skill to do pvp not just key binds and that’s it your done lol most people who do pve runs I’m sure would get it handed to them in pvp tbh so that should honestly be end game not chasing some meaningless run that’s been done forever it’s so boring lol but I’m sure people don’t like losing so guess why people stay away from pvp

@ODST_Parker

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnn8373 First of all, learn sentence structure and punctuation. Secondly, PvP will never be a focus of STO for obvious reasons, and there are about ten people who take it seriously in this game's playerbase. Lastly, we don't like PvP because this game is ridiculously, hilariously unbalanced. Getting killed in one nanosecond because someone is running a $1000 build on a gambling ship with the best consoles, doffs, and traits with a keybind tool that lets them do everything faster than you can blink, that is not fun, it's just pointless.

This is random but I wanted to know if it was possible to make a martial arts build in STO after seeing the 3 hit combo. I made a Vulcan female that hit 1200 damage with one Lunge I. I don't remember if that was a crit or flank or both there was a lot of people shooting at one of the field bosses at once so It wasn't in a clean environment. Are there training dummies or other npcs you can test on on ground levels? I have been testing on the worms on Nimbus but it's annoying to setup.

@drunkchicken8636

Жыл бұрын

Go and make yourself a Gorn Character with the Discovery build, I have seen a 33,000+, right hook on mine. Learned from someone else that this is the way to go. I also have an Andorian that can hit around 13,000 sometimes. Mainly use it for the last boss in TFO, Both are tac's

Nanny runs, that's how.

It's a Team, not a Charity - TheSaltyDragon ... Ah that was great haha

I just enjoy the normal climb, don't do the crazy outrageous DPS , I see some do. I make some of my ships to have a fighting chance, not a overwhelming auto win. It becomes boring if I did that ever day.

Newb Question. Would cannon scatter volley provide more depuffs that fire at will? Video suggestion budget tank and support builds(for the non-elitist that want to get into this with a few friends).

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

FAW just allows for spreading debuffs to as many targets as possible around you. CSV would work if the enemies were only in front of you, but the issue then is that CSV will be doing quite a bit more damage to the foes. The supporting team generally doesn't want to be doing a ton of damage, so we've opted to go with the mk ii beams + faw route.

I just look at my combat log (console) and guess I’m doing 13K ish dps and around 21K with a torpedo atm .

12:32 so that’s what that is .

Its not just Torp builds for the Exploiters, its also for Energy too. It all I use and I do well over 700K and I have used both for testing. I do better with Exploiters. And you are exactly right about those record runs. I've watch Timber Wolf in the past, and he always put up larger numbers but it was always with a specific team setup. and btw, my build could defiantly use some tweaking.

Can i just look up my dps, or do i have to calculate it

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

You need to parse it yourself with a 3rd party program. MCStu has a good setup guide for the STO Combat Meter (SCM) program.

Omg, I never expected STO to be that deep 😅. I just want more than 50.000 DPS. Is that just possible with a support team? No thanks, way too much effort.

I bet that 150k was from those 3 lv15 epic weapons you could get them again at lower level maybe and not upgrade them support run lv 2 weapons maybe even common weapons for absolute no damage.

This . . . Well, is nuts 2mil dps

Am I crazy or would sci captains make the best debuff supports?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

The ideal team config for a high end torp run would be 3 Tacs + 2 Sci. Sci debuffs are quite good, but need to make sure you have full Tac Fleet coverage in the run.

IMHO, uncon is more of a pain in the ass. Sure you get more dps but trigger time ie if everything goes as planned... doesn't seem to happen all the time....I think most of the problem is do to server performance issues...

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Are you using it with consoles that have a counter on them once activated? Like the DPRM, when you hit that, it goes on a 20s timer to show how long til buff ends. You can't reduce its cd during that period, only after that's over will uncon help it.

I'm at about 200k DPS in ISE but get just over 100k DPS in solo play in most places. I'm trying to get up to about the 500 to 600k DPS when solo with Beam Overload builds. Anyone know who I should be asking to understand how to reach that level with energy weapons?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say to post your build up on the Builds Discord (discord.gg/stobuilds) just to double check things. But it's largely going to be down to your piloting and what type of team you have in the run. Beam overload is a bit more difficult in ISE because of it being single target. So you need to have a team that can clear the small targets while you focus entirely on the large ones.

@KalijahAnderson

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB I'll do that as well, but I mean just 500k to 600k DPS normal without support no needing to worry about if it's an ISE run.

How much money have you honestly already spend on this game since the start you are plaything it?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

2021 massively spiked up the amount I'd put into the game. But overall, probably around ~$150/year since 2012. That's ~$12.50/month, so not bad for how much I have played.

@JohnJohnson-zq9rg

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB Thanks for sharing. Impressive teamwork and knowledge regarding the game.

I'm playing this game on Xbox and I would be happy hitting 100k lol I never understood how to calculate those numbers exactly. Edited: 29:00 Yea manual clicking on console is practically impossible. At least for me it is. Lol

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, console has no combatlog file that the game generates, so you can't use any 3rd party combatlog parser to give you detailed numbers like on PC. I'd recommend checking this out: reddit.com/r/stobuilds/comments/prvr18/estimating_dps_on_consoles_xboxps_using_japori/

Spreads on the gate, yes at that point you should be firing EBMs and quickly delphics, but isn't your FAW off CD basically also a DPS loss if your HY is on CD ?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Should always be CF on a target in these runs, so you should have HY for most of the run. As for Crit, I think that'll be my next video

yeah, engineers sucks) where you been 5 years ago when I start playing STO?) ty for video

And these comments are exactly what i expect from DPS chasers. Trash-talking troll people that think they are better then anybody else just because they are good at one aspect of a game. Spencer, i thank you for this insight into the DPS community, and how they achieve their goals, very educating. really.. i had no idea. I myself will never be a DPS chaser, I do not even want to be one, even if i could. I play this game for fun, immerse myself into the ST world, and forget about all the daily shite that sometimes happens to me, as it does to everyone. And if i have to run around for 30 min to chase, and being chased, by one assimilated Undine, and i kill it at the end, alone.. because all my BOF's are dead, i have a ton of fun... so no, i don't do a lot of damage, obviously. But i do a lot of fun, and thats important to me. But.. again, thanks for this...

I think its more impressive if someones doing RANDOM Elites and getting like 600k with every literally on auto fire, like me! lol

This game's perpetual power creep has broken it so badly now - you've either fanatically farmed this game for a decade or you go into group content now as a joke that's not even *flown* between groups fast enough that they've all been obliterated by some random top end DPS build that's already flown to the next group along and is halfway through smashing them all up too. Shame really, new players haven't a chance of enjoying what's left of this once fun game now and wont stick around for more than a week or two before they catch on that they'll need to spend hundreds of real pounds/dollars/whatever just to buy a ship/traits with which they could keep up even if they magically learned how to play that build before the new meta comes out...

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need to invest hundreds into the game to do well. Plenty do it F2P. Just a matter of taking the time to figure things out, which most are not willing to do.

@ossirioth

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB True, there is plenty to do F2P. But as soon as a noob enters 2 or 3 TFOs now they are shown exactly how ridiculously off the pace they are. I don't know about you, but I dont enjoy content where I'm not involved - and example from this very morning, I was in Random Infected advanced; i made it to the 3 borg cubes and then over to the first tansformer. Stayed to clear up the spheres, turned my camera around and ever other mob on the map was crumpled debris. someone posted a DPS report, 162k, 162k, 80k, 24, 20k (for me). 20k is what this game was designed to require and back in the day wasn't a bad parse. As a returning player I have all reps unlocked to lvl5, over 2 dozen ships, the traits from all of those, all crafting unlocked to lvl15+ and *I dont stand a chance* against the playerbase now.

Whatever happened to good ol fashioned PvP?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Complete lack of balance with new items released into the game. I used to PvP a ton, but I just feel like it's a waste of time given the current state of the game. I'd just say to think of the difference in player performance in PvE with DPS stuff here. Now imagine that type of focus in a PvP environment.

200 Crit severity 60 Crit chance Forty to Fifty ish Acuracy That will give you that score. The only stats you need to work on for DPS is Accuracy Crit chance and Crit Severity. Every bridge officer boff weapon and console should have some amount of Crit Chance on it if not your wasting a slot.

@zevailes

Жыл бұрын

I only have a 52% Crit Severity with a low chance of 2.5% I gotta figure out how to increase the chance more.

Gaining high dps through hitting multiple targets is kinda cheating your dps numbers I can average 150k-160k dps under half buffs to a single target per beam array under full buff with doff procs between 200k and 260k single target dps AOE dps is doing little bmg to a bunch of targets and adding them together Nice crutch bro

@99Cheops99

2 ай бұрын

Video is 2 years old. This is Torp based. Which is largely single target except for spread. If you think THIS is bad... you are going to lose your mind when you see what CSV, the firing mode put into the game by the developers, is doing. CSV isn't a crutch. It's a nuclear powered fucking wheelchair! But you have fun shooting one thing at a time.

@Deadrage1

2 ай бұрын

@99Cheops99 being dependent on multi target hits to pad dps numbers is a crutch

@99Cheops99

2 ай бұрын

@@Deadrage1 I look forward to seeing you in the next ISE doing 50K dps flying in circles trying to beam overload your way to map completion. Relying on other people to do dps for you is a crutch.

@Deadrage1

2 ай бұрын

If you want to play that then how about this Each one of my beam arrays Do on average 150k dmg per proc at 4 procs per cycle so let's say 600k dps per cycle per beam array my ship has 8 of these beam arrays so for every 2 arrays 1.2M dmg per cycle so that would be approximately 4.8M dmg per cycle and that's not even touching buffs and procs Again nice crutch bro

@99Cheops99

2 ай бұрын

@@Deadrage1 Every word of what you just said is wrong.

STO was good, when Cannon Ships were top DPS (Defiant). Single target DPS > all. Ripping a Borg Cube appart in one or two passes. When it became a little kids AOE DPS Sh*tshow, the game went down the drain.

Lol

This did nothing to explain how to increase personal torpedo damage. All you did was prattle on about team dynamics.

I take long breaks from the game. And can’t for the life of me figure out why people are still running 10 year old raids. And bragging about it. Only game like it.

I do 544851 dps. But I'm a tank so I can take 10 times more