NOTE: As of 2023, this guide still covers 99% of what you need to setup a Torp Boat. However the Maelstrom Torp from the Legendary Akira is now a must-slot, and the console from the Terran Eagle replaces the Ferrofluid console from the Terran Rep. In addition, the Eagle is the current Record holder for torps, as the console it has allows you to fire torps over twice as fast, and it can use the 4 main torps discussed here, alongside the Maelstrom.

@IPM71

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the update and guide. And as of today ( June 11th 2023 ), the Shuk-Din code is still available when you order the PDF books, which is neat :)

@shawnoconnor4633

9 ай бұрын

shame console cant setup custom power settings D:

@michelkoopman753

3 ай бұрын

This still accurate in 2024?

@bryanstudley1219

3 ай бұрын

Would you replace Spire tac consoles with a mix of Colony tac consoles and Isomagnetic Plasma Distribution Manfold [Torp] consoles?

@CasualSAB

21 күн бұрын

@@bryanstudley1219 Just saw this, but Isomags are not compatible with torp builds. Torps don't care about weapon power.

Congratulations on putting together a concise, easy to follow guide on torpedoes in the game.

@Rincewind75

2 жыл бұрын

Dang high praise from the king of torps

@AvoozlPlays

15 күн бұрын

Hey Odin, I used your torpedo build for years in STO.

So much effort has gone into this dude! Flooded with info.

Thanks for the video. I didn't realize that I was effectively trolling elite runs by slotting Concentrate Firepower 1 or 2 (CF1, CF2). I went through and upgraded all my builds to CF3 or removed the ability if CF3 was not possible. The results have been quite satisfying. I'm sure the elite community will appreciate it, when and if I get a team together for elite content.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

It's an unfortunate issue with CF that I hope one day gets fixed. Your torp teammates will very much appreciate your change there.

@William.Shakespeare

2 жыл бұрын

dude , right now for me it looks like when people use the hyper rom torp but im using lobi temporal torp , has been a blast.

Great video Spencer much appreciated 👍🏽We all thank you for your time and effort in making content for the STO community.

I've been playing around with some meta builds for the first time since I started playing years ago. The video has given me some good ideas to play with in order to boost my damage for sure, thank you!

Very nicely done, easy to follow. Informative and extremely thorough!

Great video, like the format. I really like the PowerPoint format and how I can watch it on my phone if I'm not home. Being able to read everything on a mobile screen is awesome. 👍

Awesome. Many thanks. My S31 is pretty much there, it seems after help from Auggie and the Discord. I was told on the Discord to remove one of the 3 quantum mines but I didn't as I didn't know why! Now there's a Black Ops on there! What I like about this guide is plenty of alternatives to some promo gear.

Thank you for the Build guide! I was able to improve my build! Also i used the code today to get that ship and experimental weapon; It is an improvement on what i had. thanks!

thank you ! ,I have been looking for something like this for a long time. easy to follow and going to take me Awhile to watch the whole thing :)

I’m so proud of you. 💪🏿❤️🖖🏿⚡️🏋🏿‍♂️

Thank you for this guide! I just got my hands on the Mudd Command bundle and had no direction to go with builds for the ships. I'm going to have to start at the budget level, but this guide will lead me into the meta! Thank you!

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Great effort you did so much work on this it shows congratulations

I'm just going to say this... this is amazing and awesome work that I have no hope of duplicating in-game because of its complexity, but I'm humbled by this dedication. Would thumbs-up again.

I highly appreciate the powerpoint presentation version for easy reference and searchability.

I’m surprised you didn’t mention that the Delphic’s biggest selling point is the stacking debuff that allows each successive torpedo hit to do more damage. You’re underselling Delphic in single target scenarios. 😎

@artificialgravitas8954

2 жыл бұрын

Eh doesn't the extra torpedo in the salvo outweigh that, great as it also is?

@OdenKnight

2 жыл бұрын

@@artificialgravitas8954 I’m not sure what you mean. Care to elaborate?

@artificialgravitas8954

2 жыл бұрын

@@OdenKnight Delphic fires extra torpedos in it's salvos under High Yield

@OdenKnight

2 жыл бұрын

@@artificialgravitas8954 Now that I understand where you are coming from, I can better explain why the debuff is significant. Special case scenario: Above 185% critD value, if 1/2 of the torpedoes in the salvo crit, the lower yield salvo’s would do more damage than the higher ranks. The stacking debuff adds up, and makes the HY3 strong in almost every situation.

Pilot information was very informative, spot on.

An excellent guide, very helpful insights!! Thank you!

Tank you Ser finaly a wery nice explanation using slideds to show off meta meta builds, this took a lot of work as i see but i hope one day you will make same for Energy meta and sci meta :)

Excellent guide, thank you.

Wow didn't realize the situation with CF1 and 2 was so bad! Just switched off of CEA 1 for CF3 instead of CF2, encouraged my friend to do the same.

At the time of writing this I just got the Shuk'Din Code from the e-book and it still works. Be warned that it is a single character unlock, so make sure you claim on the right character you want it on.

Code still worked. Got the book and the shuk din just now!

Thank you for making this video. This has really helped!

3-year-old video maybe, but super informative and really appreciate it. Thanks a ton!

The code still works and I got it for $8 USD.

I just want to confirm that as of 6/10/2023 that code still works and will get you the ship. it is 15$ USD if you get the pdf version of the book. pretty cheep for a promo ship if you ask me.

Not sure if this is just an older video with outdated information, but Kinetic Magnet does not have a damage cap any longer. It just gives up to -50 kinetic resistance and attracts mines to the target.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Intel received a rework 3-4 months after this video was made.

Just want to throw out that at least today 28/11/21 the ST Adventures book is half price and the code is still redeemable

43 min spencer vid... damnnnn im ready

Thank you very much CasualSAB great Video, much learned here. Question on the Phased-Space Membrane and why the DPRM is not slotted However you did not explain if both Damage buffs do not stack just it was not worth it to slot so does both Damages stack outside of trying to get a world record dps score?

thank you for this video. it is super useful

"Concentrate firepower, I don't want anything to get through!"

i think the code still works. someone has been posting many many skuk-dins on the exchange for less then 400m ec

After giving torps a rest for awhile, I'm looking to get back into it. I'm wanting to go a somewhat different route ship wise and am going to be using the Vastam Tac Cmd Warbird. Its 4/4 with a Commaner Command seat.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

The Vastam can work, but it is just the Presidio with a singularity core and battle cloak.

This was the longest ad for Honey I've ever seen.

Very good vid. Thx

Great vid as always sir appreciate the content......I would like to say one thing. I feel CF2 is just fine if you are running solo or pug TFO's and not chasing max DPS, there are a few ships that get overlooked because they only have rank 2 available to them that I feel are very fun and still do a ton of damage (Strike ship) for instance. Perhaps not the right arena for this comment because this is a "meta" build video in which yes you want CF3 but I feel like CF2 gets an unjust bad wrap.....thoughts?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

That's fair, for a solo environment, having CF1 or 2 is def better than not having CF at all.

:D you did a Awesome video it will help everyone :D

CHICKEN TENDIES! GREAT vid.. loved it.. a lot of work but good info sir

Well done Sir! It is perfect so.Long but worth to watch!

So when is the Ultimate Meta Tank/support/Beam/cannon/sci vid. We all don't mind hearing your voice it very chilled :)

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Based on the reception this has received, I think it is an approach I will use again. Just gonna give myself more time for those vids and not set a fixed schedule

If per say you have a 4/3 weapon slots, would you keep the delphic torp set by replacing the beam bank with the Interphase Quantum Distributor if not what do you suggest? Also any other modifications you suggest to accommodate that slotting?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Just drop the DBB in that case. Don't bother with the console for that set, isn't better than the other consoles you have.

This may be a old question but I haven't seen it answered. The Weapon modifiers Dmgx4 , is this really better than CrDx4. It seems with High Crit chance Crit Damage would pull ahead. Now that we can re-engineer our modifiers I would appreciate your opinion on Weapon Mods. Thank you in advance.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

I don't have the math in front of me, but with builds at a higher level, damage typically wins out as it's a final multiplier and the amount of damage boosts on these builds adds up to be quite a bit. You easily have several hundred % cat 1 that is then multiplied by a few hundred % cat 2. Then the Dmg mod comes in afterwards taking advantage of all the damage boosts you have. There are some calculators out there on reddit.com/r/STOBuilds , just take a bit of time to go through and figure out the exact differences based on your build and buffs

@gamezilla1013

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB Thank you for the response. I'll check it out.

Shuk'Din codes still available as of this writing.

Do you have a list of a half dozen or so preferred ships for this build?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

40:43 in I list Some Good Torp Ships That includes most of the top performers right now.

Question: Out of the campaign prizes what would you choose console/skill wise towards a torp boat?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

Trait wise, I'd say to look at either the Mirror Warship for "Terran Goodbye" (Up to +15% CrtH / 75 acc) or The Disco D7 MW FDC for "The Ruin of Our Enemies" (Per target killed, +3% Bonus All Damage, up to 100 stacks). Console wise, the Deimos Pilot Destroyer for the Immolating Phaser Lance if you want to invest in the Crossfield Refit for the "Universal Designs" trait. Ship wise, I'm still a fan of the Styx. It's one of the best torp platforms and it's one of the best tank platforms.

@starfleetcaptain5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB so how many lockboxs do you think it would take to get the crossfield refit? Don't think I'll ever have the billions of EC for it, not like I ever see it on the exchange anyway. lol

@starfleetcaptain5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB I usually bounce between running a pet/torp build on a fleet jupiter and torp boat on a fleet alita which I'm trying to optimize but seeing the Styx I may get one at some point. Of course I've been screwing around with a Tuffli Freighter now and again trying to optimize that as well.

@starfleetcaptain5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB Can I select the D7 on a Fed with cross faction or do I have to use a klingon toon and port it over?

I notice you didn't recommand the Legendary Galaxy X for legendary. Is the maneuverability holding it back to going higher?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

It has a Commander Intel seat, and only a LtC Command. If those were reversed, it would be a good option. I can still work as is, just not going to be as great as some of the 4/4 ships out there that have a Commander Command seat.

Have you tried the spatial torp and wide arc phase cannon set from the lobi store?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

I've used the wide arc phase cannon quite a bit, does well. But the torp didn't do that well last time I tried it

@garethmoffatt5434

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB good to know. I don't have the delhic so I'm using the full prolonged set for now. The 3pc ability is doing OK damage for me. I just pug tho. Thanks for the video by the way. Do you have your steamrunner build on ship planner? I'm getting it to make a dedicated torp build.

what about the terran eagle starship trait?

I'm torn if I should make a tac or just use my main which is sci

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

If you already have the investment on your Sci, then take advantage of it. Tacs do have a fairly large performance lead over Sci/Eng, but there is no content in this game where that extra bit of performance is needed.

18:59 it isnt cheap any longer 😱 some of the borg on that page are getting into the prices of ships

#Welcome2Torps Love this video, even if you regret your decision in making it.

You see to have no heals and low resistances. How do you survive with that Dailkhina?

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

In PvE it's always generally been "kill things before they can kill you". On that specific build, I may have been using "Exitus Acta Probat" also? Got a vid on the channel going over that mechanic.

Are torpedo cooldown doffs viable or do they hit the cooldown limit with 4 torps?

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

They still work quite well with 4 on

@needparalegal

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB Then I will forego the better torp doffs.

@needparalegal

3 күн бұрын

@@CasualSAB Do they work on the Maelstrom Torpedo?

I do not use concentrate fire power. I fly a recon vesta, get 1 torp/sec. There are other ways to build.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

If you're going after a meta torp build like shown in this video, I just don't see how you get around not having Concentrate Firepower. Even if you reduce the cd of your torps to 1s, you're not getting that free High Yield 1 every 2 seconds.

Nimrod Meta

How much is the Sona ship going for now?

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

The Son'a Intel is typically in the 300-400m range

They still have codes.

Is there any guide for a free to play torp build? Mine is ok but i want to get closer to the high end without spending money.

@TheTilitus

11 ай бұрын

and maybe advies on a ship thats t6 i got a cupon for one.

@CasualSAB

11 ай бұрын

Terran eagle would be a good ship to go for nowadays. Console is meta for torps, and the ship is the current torp dps record holder.

@TheTilitus

11 ай бұрын

@@CasualSAB Ok thank you =)

@TheTilitus

11 ай бұрын

@@CasualSAB Oooh and dude your vids has saved me a lot of "finding out what this BS is about" time =)

@TheTilitus

11 ай бұрын

Sadly you cant get it with the t6 coupn.

Whats the console thats better than the drpm console?

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

The DPRM is still a very good console for general use cases and for most players. The reason it isn't always used is: 1. In a high level environment, you don't need the survivability from it. So you'd only be using it to get the 40% cat 2 for 20s. 2. On a high end build, you may be at or close to 100% Crit Chance. At that point, CrtD can be competitive with Cat 2 damage boosts. So depending on the build, it can be more beneficial to go for more CrtD rather than short duration Cat 2 boost, as the CrtD would be there all the time.

Torps are great. The gravimetric photon being the exception. It does nothing and does NOT create a gravimetric rift, a waste of resources. The Romulan hyper and Dark Matter are the best.

@rathondraconin

2 жыл бұрын

then your using it wrong, try buffing your acc

@zigzag8949

2 жыл бұрын

@@rathondraconin I shall give the Gravimetric ACC a whirl. The Breen transphasic cluster torpedo upgraded is awesome. With tac buffs it can do 60,000+ damage with a single torp.

@rathondraconin

2 жыл бұрын

@@zigzag8949 agreed, cluster torp with a hybrid torp/mine build can be both fun and good. :) be well and stay safe.

@zigzag8949

2 жыл бұрын

@@rathondraconin live long and prosper!

@rathondraconin

2 жыл бұрын

@@zigzag8949 peace and long life!

Couldya do a budget dps build?

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

Eventually that is something I want to get around to.

@tulkasetorome

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB great video, SAB, but at lot of us don't spend a lot of $$ on the game. I use the Xindi Olaen for my torp build and it's a lot of fun...

Can you do an updated vid?

@CasualSAB

Жыл бұрын

With Agony Redistributor having been nerfed, this guide is still quite solid. Torp meta hasn't changed that much so far.

@MrWardonis

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualSAB but there are a number off things such as the kinetic magnet buff, t'liss legendary trait and others that muddy the water.

You have Entwined Tactical Matrices backwards. It does not trigger on FAW or SV and it does not give you Torp Spread 1. It triggers on TS and it gives you both FAW 1 and SV 1. I use it in my torp boat build, which is very different from yours, because I use a pilot ship and not a command ship and boost my damage with a combination of Promise of Ferocity, Supercharged Weapons and Weapon System Synergy, along with the Entwined Tactical Matrices. I don't ever both with FAW or SV because I get both every time I do a torp spread and I do them often because I use a DEF tank *means I get missed a lot" and Reciprocity trait, which reduces tactical and intel cooldowns every time you get missed in combat.I also do NOT reply on High Yields and usually have it as HY2 for special situations. Instead I dish out all my DPS with Torp Spread 3s as fast as I can pop them off. I do 4 torps on the front and 2 360 beams and either a turret or a beam array that completes a set in the back. I been doing torp boats for about a decade, long before most players thought a viable torp boat was even possible, none the less considered the OP build. I also use a different mix of Torps, but we have the Neutronic in common which is my Torp 1, and the Dark Matter Quantum, which I use as Torp 4 and the one that changes if I want to swap out a torp for a specific energy damage type. Between those I put the Gravimetric and the Morphogenic, and I use polarons for my energy weapons. I also use a couple partial sets and several full sets in my build, including the Escort Mods set with it's Point Defense Torps console.

@CasualSAB

2 жыл бұрын

I am glad that you have found a build that works for you. However, you are not correct with regards to ETM. I would strongly suggest that you re-read the description of Entwined again, it works both ways. CSV and FAW both grant a TS1 while ETM is slotted.

@Vizhonary

2 жыл бұрын

Okay. I just reread it in game and it seems you are right in that it actually does both. Triggers fire at will and scatter volley one when you use a torp spread and triggers a torp spread one when you use fire at will or scatter volley. Not the way I remember it working, and I have always used it for FAW on the omni's being triggered whenever I torp spread. Never used it the other way.

I think you spent WAY too much time talking about the pilot spec abilities lol

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