HOW and WHY to relocate your OIL FILTER
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
On a stock engine with a stock exhaust manifold the exhaust manifold clears the oil filter without issues. But let's see what happens if we decide to modify this engine. Let's imagine we want to fit a different exhaust manifold with the goal of turbocharging the engine.
In many cases clearance becomes a problem and the manifold is hits the oil filter. Even a shorter oil filter often doesn't help much and installing a turbo charger is simply impossible.
The only solution in a scenario like this one to relocate our filter. In other words we remove our stock oil filter and mounting plate and replace with an oil filter relocation kit that allows us to put our filter pretty much anywhere we want to.
An oil filter relocation kit consists of two main parts. One part goes onto your stock oil filter location. And the other part houses your oil filter on it's new location and then the two parts get connected to each other.
Your stock mounting plate and oil filter are connected to the engine using a long union bolt. Obviously this bolt is too long for the relocation plate so the kit has a shorter version of this union bolt.
The kit also comes with two adapters to suit a wide variety of engines.
The adapter is fastened into the mounting bracket and then the hollow bolt is installed into the adapter. After that you can screw the entire assembly into the block as you would your oil filter.
The oil filter itself is of course installed into the other part of the kit and then you can you use the provided mounting brackets and holes to install the oil filter and housing at your desired location.
The kit that I'm using in this video is made by Manon Racing Performance in New Zealand which specialized in Toyota 4AGE performance parts. This kit is a high quality billet item with impeccable finish machining to ensure perfect fitment and maximum flow. It's designed to operate reliably under high temperatures and in harsh racing conditions. Thanks to it's extensive range of adapters it also suits a wide variety of engines.
It's also designed to fit -10AN or army navy fittings for a leak free easily removable connection. -10an is a large cross-section fitting which ensures optimum flow and is the recommended size for most applications.
However there is a problem with this kit, the fittings point outward at a right angle from the engine block wall and the AN fittings add to the profile of the filter which again results in potential clearance problems. Fortunately this can easily be resolved simply by removing the provided fittings and replacing them with banjo bolt style fittings. These then point the connection downward and dramatically reduce the profile of the relocation plate leaving more than enough room for the turbo.
An oil filter relocation kit also gives us the opportunity to install an oil cooler to reduce oil temperatures which can be something very beneficial in racing or other situations where we have high engine loads for prolonged periods of time.
When it comes to plumbing the oil cooler you have two options. Option 1 is to have the oil flow from the engine to the cooler then to the filter and finally back into the engine. Option two is to have the oil run to the filter first and then to the engine. Both options are acceptable in most scenario and each has its small benefits. Having the oil cooler before the filter means that the oil filter can catch any residual solder and other debris that can break loose from inside the cooler but it can also mean that you're sending cooler more viscous oil into the filter. If the oil is too cool and too viscous it will trigger the bypass valve inside the oil filter and reduce the amount of oil actually being filtered.
But fortunately there is a solution to this problem as well. If your oil cooler ends up cooling the oil too much you can install this which is a thermostatic sandwich plate. You can install it both under the oil filter or under the mounting bracket on the engine. Inside it the thermostatic plate has a proprtioning valve which sends more oil to the cooler the hotter it gets. The end result is an engine that gets to operating temperature faster but also doesn't overcool it's oil.
In general an oil cooler is not a good idea just because it cools your oil but also because it together with the hoses needed for the system increases the oil capacity of your engine which is almost never a bad thing. Having more oil to circulate though the engine helps ensure proper temperature control.
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@negativeindustrial
2 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy, Happy 2022 to you, too! I just bought myself a Christmas present; a 1994 LHD Twin Turbo 1JZ-GTE Soarer/SC300 project. It’s incomplete but it runs and drives so well! The stock twins are seemingly always in boost. My 1990 MR2 Turbo and my 1994 Celica Turbo have finally met their big brother! Still got the LS400 holding down daily duties so my dream garage is finally complete! Just wanted to share that with someone who can relate. Great content, as usual. Your MR2 is getting nothing but the best. Love to see it.
@DanielFrost79
2 жыл бұрын
@@negativeindustrial Now the "only" drawback to that is that you need a new dream to look forward to or life pretty fast goes on pointlessly fast without purpose. 😲
@01sidiropoulos
2 жыл бұрын
Hi and Happy New Years!!
@TheCARnivalWorldwide
2 жыл бұрын
Always so informative. Really appreciate the content quality. Thank you and an awesome 2022 to you.
@roverwaters3875
2 жыл бұрын
"turbos are for snowflakes" message approved by Giulio Alfieri and Aurelio Lampredi 👍👍
Something to remember, use some sort of protected oil lines. I had one of these kits installed on my Cummins swapped F350. One oil line rubbed a hole in itself and ruined the motor. Truck has been down since July waiting on parts and I'm 14k into the project. All of this could have been avoided had I have used a protected oil line. It's been a life lesson with zeros behind it.
@ibrahimqureshi2420
2 жыл бұрын
it's good that your informing others from your experience so that other car enthusiasts can avoid such incidents and well 14k ain't no joke but on the bright side you learned something from your mistakes which is always a good thing :)
@petermolnar8667
2 жыл бұрын
Install an oil pressure gauge to or after the point where the oil gets back in the engine block. I know, hindsight 20/20
@clinkerclint
2 жыл бұрын
@@petermolnar8667 it's actually got a gauge on it but I didn't catch it. I'm thinking of either a low oil pressure shutdown switch or a shift light sized idiot light. Probably go with the light.
@psk5746
2 жыл бұрын
How about installing oil lines so not being rubbed by something?
@clinkerclint
2 жыл бұрын
@@psk5746 the lines are about 7 feet long. They were running down the top of the frame rail and held into position with very wide zip ties. I thought would be a fairly safe place to be. It was just the weight of the lines on top of the frame along with the vibration that wore through the soft lines.
If you ever come to New Zealand, pop in to MRP. Barry(the owner) is one of the best people in the industry to deal with. Always a joy to visit him for 4age related parts.
I truly appreciate how thorough your explanations and videos are. Thank you for all of your hard work and knowledge! 🔥 🔥 🔥
I don't even own a car but still comes back to watch every video. Your knowledge could never be too much, whatever it is about, and whether or not you own a car or not. 👍
It is often a good idea to relocate filter as that gives the ability to pick up pressurized oil for a turbo or charger, to install oil temp and oil pressure sensors, and to install oil cooler to prevent overheat as well. Almost mandatory for every performance oriented engine mods
@dq2023
2 жыл бұрын
Im sure the engine design engineers know what they are designing and doing
@vozhdmeister5256
2 жыл бұрын
@@dq2023 sure. But designing a commercial engine for cars to be sold is slightly different from designing a performance engine for cars to be race.
@slypig24
2 жыл бұрын
@@dq2023 they have to design and build cars to a price point, rather that excellent enginering. Except for some German cars, where the Goverment support the auto industry through education & funding of science & research.
Never heard of an oil thermostatic plate. Great idea!
I relocated the filters on my S-10 and my Isuzu Trooper. I also switched the filter to a large and common Chevy V8 filter. The filter was more than double the size but cost the same. I mainly did the relocation because the filter sat at a 45° angle and would get oil all over the exhaust and frame when changing oil. Plus if you did a change on a hot engine there was a 99% chance you were burning your arm. I located the filter under the hood and moved the sensors to the mounting pad so they were away from exhaust heat. I can now change the filter easily with good lighting and no awkward gymnastics. I can also fill the filter with oil, which takes close to 1L, and avoid a dry startup.
@timvanderstarre9021
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome👏 I totally understand why you did the relocation.
@killerdinamo08
2 жыл бұрын
Nice job, the filters on a Trooper as a mess to change, and they need so soon to get changed, what a pain!
@amarularif3110
2 жыл бұрын
4jb1 2.8 trooper?
@geoffmooregm
2 жыл бұрын
@@amarularif3110 No it was a 2.8L Gas engine which was a General Motors 60 Degree V6. The main reason to start doing the swap was the leaky oil cooler lines which were discontinued so there was no real hope of salvaging the system so the remote filter made way more sense.
@idabomb00
2 жыл бұрын
Prefilling an oil filter is a waste of time
Wow I can hardly believe you're creeping up on 400K subs already. Very well deserved though. Thanks for all the awesome videos!
As always, well explained, concise and no bullshit. This type on content helps every type of car enthusiast. Awesome video brother!
To prevent dry starts after the engine hasn't been started for a while, an electric oil pump can be installed between the engine and filter triggered by a remote switch inside the car. Turn on ignition, run the pump for 10-20 seconds or so and oil pressure will build before the engine is fired up.
@slypig24
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know of any electric oil pumps on the market, it's s good idea, I made the same comment before I read yours.
@Draxindustries1
2 жыл бұрын
@@slypig24 No I don't unfortunately. I got the idea from a friend who rigged up a pump for his TVR. It was fitted with the Ford V6. Sometimes it wouldn't be used for months but the electric pump would bring the oil pressure up before starting. There's likely a big market for something like this if someone could produce a kit.
@starmc26
2 жыл бұрын
Oh good lord, there won't be any "dry starts".
@Draxindustries1
2 жыл бұрын
@@starmc26 Praying to the Lord won't solve the problem..
@supernice_auto
Жыл бұрын
@@starmc26 of course there will- it takes time for an engine to build oil pressure- even if it's for half a second- that's half a second multiplied by ever time you start your car. It's really not a difficult concept to understand.
This kit is amazing! Simple yet so effective!
Thank you so much for this video!! I've been looking at a relocation kit for the purpose of adding an oil cooler for a long time now, and wasn't sure if it would actually be worth the time, money, and effort to do so. I also wasn't sure exactly where to put it if I did. Thank you again for this video and all of the other amazing and informative videos that you do!
When applied in a sensible way, it's a win/win situation. 👍 Thanks for the informative videos! Happy new year! 😄
Hey man, I really appreciate your content and the work that goes into it. I had the same clearance issue on my 98 celica. An aftermarket oil filter is a great improvement. The HUBB filter features a secondary filter for the bypass valve. It's stainless and washable with warranty. I would highly recommend it! Thanks again for the awesome videos.
Thank you and wishing you a happy and prosperous 2022!
Don’t have that much of a issue with my 4AFE but wish it was more comfortable changing the filter. You just gave me an answer. Thanks👍
Well done! I have installed both watched a dozen video's and I learned something!
That's really great. I didn't know there were thermostatic bypass devices for the oil cooler and never stopped to think about the filter mounting point level. level.
a union fitting. probably the only thing that i'll ever know that you'd forgot. 🙂 happy new year and thank you for your channel - it is absolutely top notch! 🥳🥳
You make this stuff seem so easy. Thanks!
Thank you for the clarification, great video!!👍🏻👍🏻
Sound thinking and good advice, as usual. Happy New Year.
Great timing! The SR20 in my NX2000 has the oil filter literally inaccessible without taking apart the whole engine bay, as well as pouring all over the engine when it comes out, so I bought a relocator kit to fix both of those issues.
I relocated the filter on my 2004 Mercury Marauder because the crossmember and rack would get drowned when the filter was changed. Also, it allows the smaller FL820s filter to be replaced with a larger FL1a, plus adds 1 more quart of capacity. Mine was for convenience but this video is spot on and very informative.
What a genuinely great and helpful video! Thanks mate, learned a lot 😊
I was Just thinking of move the oilfilter location so this video was a bullseye. Happy New Year. Løøking forward to more quality video in 2022.
I have never considered moving the filter! Thanks for the idea
Great explanation of why it’s better to mount the filter lower. Thank you.
Very helpful video. Besides turbos, moving the oil filter to an easier to access location, makes oil changes easier. 👍
awesome video and a great explanation!! love from Australia
Fantastic video!!! Very informative!
Good info to know. Liked this video and how you explained about how you can starve an engine of oil by placing the filter in a wrong location and how the cooler reacts with oil filter .
Great video as always. I'd like to add that if you add the relocation kit and mount your filter close to the engine oil drain plug, it makes for faster and cleaner oil changes!
Revisiting this a year later because I just bought a 1977 Datsun 620 and I can't wait to start a frame-up restoration with a new, fully built, motor! Some great info here!
This was super helpful!
God bless German cars for their filters directly ontop of the engine. Nice and visible and easy to replace too. No time to waste Hans
Wow! What I didn't know. Thanks for the info.
I'm a simple man; I see a D4A upload, I watch, I press like. This is nice but that stuff you added is +10 lbs, not to mention adds clutter in the engine bay! Lucky for me, my car's oil filter is RIGHT on top, the easiest to access out of any vehicle I have ever owned. 🙂 #N54
Really nice video... Really appreciate your videos. Hoping for more of those videos...
Cool to see you mention every detail
I was just looking at doing this in my build, thanks for the info!
happy new year my friend. that was a very good video. you explained it well. its a basic review for me but a good one. plus I get to see a great new products. thanks liked and subbed up. I also like you explaining how the turbocharger system works.
Very simple, clear, and pragmatic
With an oil filter that sits with the thread side pointing up, so that inlet and outlet are pointing upwards, there is no risk of the oil draining out of it. It might run down out of the feed lines in that style set up if the lines are high but not the filter.
@alanmears517
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping that someone would point that out as it's not clarified here that the anti-drainback valve is designed for filters mounted horizontally or upside down.
As always bro love the knowlage bombs bro ... ty this is the next thing I need to do to my build ( I got a 1.6 miata that I have bored 30 thou over and forged naxpeedingrods like u use and supertech 8-1 pistons and rinds a fluid damper and acl and king race bearings and thrust washers ... the head is next n I been watch your vids thinking if trying to portmatch and all myself ) again thanks for the knowlage my brotha peace n love and I can't weight to see the mr2 when it driving broski 🤘🏼💪🏽✌🏽
Your channel is amazing. Who would have thought to do this? I will now!
I love the vids you create....
What a great explanation
Thank you every munch good intel
Great video, thank you for sharing. I installed one on a dune buggy and added an oil cooler too.
Love this channel. If there was a KZread list of essential Channels like the WHO's list of essential medicines this channel should definitely make it
Perfect thank you very much I learn something for my miata, and I will put your knowledge in good use sir.
Thank you for another interesting video! To the last point of the engine running without proper lubrication. I'm wondered why there is not an electrical oil pump for pre-lubrication of the engine before start 🤔
Thank you always wondered about these
excellent video mate
Thank you, learned some stuff on this channel :)
Thank you very informative
Very good video!
Great video👏🏾
Thank you so much for this.
Very good video Thanks
Your explanations are clear and to the point. Thank you for these videos👍
learned cool stuff thanks a lot!
You are the Man. Thank You
Learned some cool stuff. I'd also like to point out, there's also the option of a heat exchanger instead of an oil cooler waaaay up in front. Shorter lines, less pressure lost in the lines. You do have to plumb some coolant lines though.
@mitchellpatterson1829
2 жыл бұрын
The heat exchange also has the benefit of warming the oil in low temperatures, and is arguably better than the thermostat and cooler combination since it tries to equalize the oil with coolant temperature. Dumps heat in the radiator though.
@hozisalehi
2 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellpatterson1829 Yes you do need to account for it in radiator sizing as well.
@khalidacosta7133
2 жыл бұрын
Alot of cars already have this from factory ..... especially turbocharged cars!
@petermolnar8667
2 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons tuners use a separate cooler instead of a heat exchanger is that you free up some cooling capacity of the radiator, without fitting an upgrade. Normally, it would have to deal with both the heat of the coolant and oil, and with some extra power/under higher loads this could lead to overheating, fitting a separate oil cooler is just a way of increasing the overall cooling capacity
@diesistkeinname795
2 жыл бұрын
@@petermolnar8667 While that is true, an oil/air heatexchanger is suboptimal in case of the MR2 (all 3 generations) there is no good point to mount it. The side air intakes are too small and would result in higher engine bay temperatures. Front mounting would require some absurdly long lines and taking air from below would clog up or damage the oil cooler quickly. So for a turbocharged MR2, it makes more sense to use an oil/water heatexchanger and upgrade the water/air heat exchanger seperately. Besides, the water/air heatexchanger needs an upgrade anyway when you turbocharge the car, so this doesn't realy affect costs much because you'll need to get a new one anyway. Sidenote: At least the EUDM MK3 came with an oil/water heatexchanger from the factory due to the expected long periods of WOT on the Autobahn and the resulting high oil temperatures.
this shit was unexpectedly entertaining af while also being highly educational.
wow good video great explanations
Thanks for showing this item. I would like to relocate mine to a logical position. Right now it's designed to drip on every single thing under the hood when I spin it off. 👍
Love to see parts go on that are a perfect fit. I got a replacement radiator that was 99% the same, the 1% difference was the size of the inlet and outlet so the stock hoses didn't quite fit comfortably back on. Maybe turning over the engine without spark for a bit would prime engines without as much ware for extreme setups?
I wish you made this video 8 months ago, I had the same issue, and had to come up with the same solution. I took a while brainstorming!
happy new year D4A!!
@d4a
2 жыл бұрын
Happy New year my man!
Upgrading oil pump is probably a good idea if doing this and make sure cooler can flow good enough for the application. For very cold weather consider the extra distance the oil will have to travel to get to where it’s going. Usually not very much of a difference but it can be considerable bellow freezing.
Great info!
buon capodanno, grazie milli
Nice work
New subscriber!!! I love this channel!! One day will you please do a video on LS ENGINES😁😁😁🔥🔥🔥
I work more with diesel engines rather than gas engines, but what about using an oil to coolant heat exchanger rather than an air cooler? These typically have a higher heat capacity than an air cooler, can be pretty compact, and prevent over cooling, in most cases not requiring a thermostat. You can even get one that sandwiches in between the filter and filter head, so no additional plumbing needed.
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Good work
with the banjo adaptors, that's really neat and compact
@casemodder89
2 жыл бұрын
but for the price of more pressure losses then straight out into AN fittings.
nice work
Great info
Where... Was very helpful. My integra has a filter as you showed in your demo. I find it annoying to access but now I know that it's actually going to be to the detriment to the engine if I put it where I wanted it.
Very nice stuff :)
Awesome. Thanks!
Your voice is so satisfying
You have a new subscriber my friend great video I need an oil cooler
Great vid thanks
I support this content.
I’ve always wanted to do this and run a much bigger filter or two depending on how much it will affect the oil pressure.
Está genial, no sabía que se vendían estos kit, yo lo he hecho de manera artesanal.
Great vid and the advice on install is worth $1000's
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@d4a
2 жыл бұрын
Hvala puno 😊
Great episode. Have you ever thought about an pre-start electric oil pump, purely to bring up oil pressure before starting. Or a manual hand operated oil pump, like they have for priming diesel injector pumps, but to prime the oil system.
Thank you for the video! Another question is, is position of the filter important (say you flip it upside down)?
Excellent
Your timing couldn't have been more perfect on this one. I'm about to relocate mine as well. Adding an oil temp and pressure sensor as well whilst I'm at it.
10/10 video
Very well explained video thanks for the shared knowledge. Could you as well explain the benefits as well from accusump sistem if you have used one or having in mind to use one. Very good and easy to understand video as always