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@fionafiona1146

5 жыл бұрын

Up until 0:40 I was about to disagree, it always appeared a mess but since than it's "I will always point to this" 😊

@turtleface5290

5 жыл бұрын

Blues sounds like he can do a rap by talking

@kingdevon2548

5 жыл бұрын

Hey I was looking up stuff about Henry the 8th and I just found out he skinny one time and also that he was a Red bone, interesting.

@gabycook9943

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Blue! You have saved my "literary establishment" essay!

@alexanderjohnson3014

5 жыл бұрын

@Blue, you know what sucks, all that effort you put into that map becomes useless about five minutes later. The holy roman mess changes its mind on who owns what as quickly as my girlfriend does when she realises I have food she likes. Yes, obvivously, Kath, it was always ***our*** food.

"A Habsburg with a jawline only a sister could love..." That isn't even Blue making a joke, that's just the honest truth right there.

@beskamir5977

4 жыл бұрын

Or the "go screw themselves but they beat me to the punch" joke :D

@weldonwin

4 жыл бұрын

At least they weren't as bad as the Ptolomies, who basically had two names between the whole family and were literally banging their own siblings, then marrying their own children

@lmbusiness5300

4 жыл бұрын

@@Reichsritter uuhhhhm….. what point are you trying to make here...…??

@Sorcerers_Apprentice

4 жыл бұрын

Weren't a lot of their marriages uncles with nieces?

@nickdelsobral9198

4 жыл бұрын

I almost died because of this one

"Martin Luther posted a Twitter rant the old fashioned way by nailing it to the door of the local church" that's one of the greatest things I've ever heard.

@Zomburai45

4 жыл бұрын

Except it's not a Twitter rant. It's a Facebook screed... 'cause it went up on a wall :D

@Carewolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@Zomburai45 And it had more characters

@carydorse705

3 жыл бұрын

Triggering a 30 year long shitstorm

@druffner

Жыл бұрын

(1/?) So obviously it's come to light for a LOT of people that the catholics are getting kind of problematic so I'm making this call out post to-

@johnkittoiv2572

Жыл бұрын

That makes the entire dumpster fire that was the reformation a 16tg century Tweet storm

"Real Christlike guys. Have fun in circle seven." Damn. Sick burn.

@Practitioner_of_Diogenes

5 жыл бұрын

I wonder what Thomas Hunter’s view on that was, if he had one.

@johnnotrealname8168

5 жыл бұрын

Dude they were !$¥@*•% excommunicated by Pope Innocent III so they are already in hell.

@Bobberation

5 жыл бұрын

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes yaknow I've had this profile pic for something like seven years and I think you're about the third person to recognize it. Nice catch!

@Beryllahawk

3 жыл бұрын

I want to click like but as I write this the count stands at 666 and I just it's too perfect a joke to screw it up

@dealeroffate6904

3 жыл бұрын

@@Beryllahawk Same :0

“I would go tell the Habsburg’s to go screw themselves but they beat me to the punch” - The greatest line I’ve ever heard from this show

Pope fight 1: the vatican menace Pope fight 2: attack of the cardinals Pope fight 3: revenge of the pope Pope fight 4: a new pope Pope fight 5: the church strikes back Pope fight 6: return of the monks

@justafaniv1097

5 жыл бұрын

Pope fight 7: The Church Awakens Pope fight 8: The last Monk Pope fight 9: The Rise of Borgia Note: The Coptic Church only recognizes Pope Fights 4-6 as canon, while Eastern Orthodoxy only recognizes 1-6. Catholics and Protestants split over The Last Monk, with many Protestants alleging that things had strayed too far from the creator's intent, the leadership was full of corrupt money grubbers, and that MaRey was being portrayed as too godlike.

@alyrar8002

5 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍👍👍👍

@zilkiffalali3113

5 жыл бұрын

Pope fight 10: faith is unbreakable Pope fight 11: cross ball run Please someone get the jojo refrenxe

@cabellones

5 жыл бұрын

Try to make a more historical titles.. Pope fight 1: the Lutheran menace Pope fight 2: attack of the Prostestants Pope fight 3: Revenge of the Kings Pope fight 4: a new Pope Pope fight 5: the Puritans strikes back Pope fight 6: return of the monks

@zmzna

5 жыл бұрын

@@zilkiffalali3113 12: CRUSADERS CRUSADERS

Blue: *teaches the audience the significance of the situation* Red: *STOP!* We need more memes.

@ferret3639

5 жыл бұрын

Red knows we only learn via meme laden analysis

@dr.rodabthicc

5 жыл бұрын

@@ferret3639 she knows us well.

@me0101001000

5 жыл бұрын

That's how you know that she's a CS girl. CS people are all about dem memes

@commmander64

5 жыл бұрын

I approve blue. Memes die. Knowledge is FOREVER KNOWLEDGE IS POWER! PEACE THROUGH POWER! PEACH THROU- Oof... don't know what got me there.

@TheSecondVersion

5 жыл бұрын

The same Red who, in her video on Dante's Paradiso, called *Emperor Justinian* an "obscure, forgotten historical figure" I bet Blue had much to say about that

As a Lutheran, I approve of your interpretation of the 95 thesis as a “old fashioned Twitter fight”

@templarw20

Ай бұрын

As an Episcopalian priest's kid, I have no notes on this entire video...

Suggest a T-Shirt: "Martin Luther Nailed It!"

@kyriss12

5 жыл бұрын

Nailed it like the romans.

@Elijah-qp5nh

4 жыл бұрын

I legit have that t shirt

@RustyUNITB

4 жыл бұрын

Both versions

@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369

4 жыл бұрын

Elijah Hoch nice

@rockyblacksmith

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact; There is a metal song about Luther called "Nailed". Good stuff.

Blue: protestants used books Me, a protestant: cause we're NERDS. Blue: cause they're NERDS!

@ChloeE623

5 жыл бұрын

Marty Herrick as a Protestant who is in two accelerated courses, I can confirm we are nerds

@Bobberation

5 жыл бұрын

Also: That's rich, coming from this channel.

@marthyangue319

5 жыл бұрын

Protestant Nerds represeeeent.

@RHKang-hl3ps

5 жыл бұрын

Yes. Being a nerd and Protestant are separate things for me most of the time though.

@stefanwalicord2512

5 жыл бұрын

Can confirm

***Got 95 problems but a religious schism ain't one*** - Martin Luther

@JAzzWoods-ik4vv

5 жыл бұрын

95 reasons why. What happened to martin luther

@whoknows7968

5 жыл бұрын

Oh how wrong he was...

@gussyd1000

5 жыл бұрын

95 problems and the Pope is all of them.

@misao6397

5 жыл бұрын

50+ protestant denominations would like to have a word

@lego4virgo

5 жыл бұрын

THAT statement as a t-shirt.

Intro: It's easy to think of Christianity as one cohesive whole. Me, a Christian: AHAHAHAHAHAHA

@weldonwin

4 жыл бұрын

To quote John Cleese "Here comes Jesus with this wonderful spiritual philosophy of peace and brotherly love for you fellow man, then we spend 2000 years slaughtering one another, because we can't agree on how he said it"

@jeannebouwman1970

4 жыл бұрын

@@weldonwin I'm not murdering anyone over it, but Protestants are right

@moritamikamikara3879

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeannebouwman1970 Which ones?

@moritamikamikara3879

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeannebouwman1970 Which ones?

@jeannebouwman1970

4 жыл бұрын

@@moritamikamikara3879 I myself am free reformed, but I think a lot of Protestant churches are fine

Martin Luther as Korg is the best thing. "Hey, man, we're gonna reform Christianity, wanna come?"

@gonesnake2337

4 жыл бұрын

And he did print enough leaflets

@lawrencemiller7442

4 жыл бұрын

Hilarious man. I read it with his voice and couldn't stop laughing.

@poem3701

4 жыл бұрын

😂OMG THAT IS THE BEST!!!!

@AyeshaKhan-gp9on

3 жыл бұрын

WHY DOESN'T THIS COMMENT HAVE LIKES IN THOUSANDS?!

@lunaequinox7333

3 жыл бұрын

“Get in loser, we’re reforming the church!”

More like: Pope fights 2 - Religious Boogaloo

@systemerror6047

5 жыл бұрын

King of flames This comment needs more attention. It is too good

@LittlePinkBowser

5 жыл бұрын

Pope Fights 2- Protestant Boogaloo

@basedjumper6167

5 жыл бұрын

Now on sale for 1,000,000 gold coins

@mindseye1790

5 жыл бұрын

Pope Fights 2: Ecclesiastic Boogaloo

@Sovairu

5 жыл бұрын

At this very moment that I am typing my reply, your comment, King of flames, has precisely 666 likes.

Remember when three different priests all declared themselves pope and excommunicated each other? Good times

@destinymills255

5 жыл бұрын

Those were the good old days.

@elijahdapaedobaptiza4831

5 жыл бұрын

King of England: hey pope, can I divorce my catholic wife? Pope: No, or you will be excommunicated. King of England: ok. Watch this. *starts church of England* Pope: *surprised pikachu*

@DogWalkerBill

5 жыл бұрын

That was in the late 1300s to early 1400s. In 1453, Sultan Mehmed was the last person to say, "I like Byzantium in the Fall."

@thezeitos469

4 жыл бұрын

We should do that again and bet on who wins. Could be a very entertaining evening.

Martin Luther not only nailed his message to the church, but SENT A COPY TO THE ARCHBISHOP! That’s beyond crazy!

@metarcee2483

4 ай бұрын

I heard that a student of his translated and sent around copies, one of which reached the archbishop.

Sack of Rome gets mentioned: *_The Last Stand_* begins to play.

@lady_sir_knight3713

5 жыл бұрын

*IN THE HEART OF THE HOLY SEE*

@fossilrecord4122

5 жыл бұрын

IN THE HOME OF CHRISTIANITY

@FakePale

5 жыл бұрын

THE SEAT OF POWER IS IN DANGER

@andrewvarney5687

5 жыл бұрын

THERE'S A FOE OF A THOUSAND SWORDS

@spooky7439

5 жыл бұрын

THEY'VE BEEN ABANDONED BY THERE LORDS

*Bust down door* "DID SOMEBODY SAY POPE FIGHT?!"

@whoknows7968

5 жыл бұрын

"NO WE SAID MOPE KNIGHT, NOW STOP YELLING!"

@GustafMedF

5 жыл бұрын

@@whoknows7968 HEY YOU, HOW ABOUT YOU STOP FUCKING YELLING!!!!!!!?

@user-ge8yn4ql4i

5 жыл бұрын

@@whoknows7968 STOP YELLING ABOUT YELLING!

@whoknows7968

5 жыл бұрын

@@user-ge8yn4ql4i "WHAT?"

@2manyeggshells

5 жыл бұрын

@@whoknows7968 I AM STARTING TO GO DEAF, CAN YOU PLEASE STOP YELLING

Honest to God. Martin Luther's writings are absolutely savage. Boi is a fully qualified Madlad.

@SonofSethoitae

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah dude, he drank a whole lot of beer and told his enemies to lick his asshole.

@SonofSethoitae

5 жыл бұрын

@Breezeshadow It was a fairly common scatological phrase in German language areas at the same time. Goethe did it as well.

@herodotus945

5 жыл бұрын

He was an anti semite.

@SakuraMoonflower

5 жыл бұрын

@Breezeshadow Mozart wrote a song about it and everything. A whole damn composition. XD

@starcola3035

5 жыл бұрын

Ngl "On the Jews and Their Lies" is straight fiery bants that sadly got appropriated by racists.

"A little bit of sugar helps the medicine go down." -Mary Poppins "Dude, memes!" -Red, 2019

Henry VIII'th Brexiting before brexiting was cool.

Church: Sells indulgences Martin Luther: NOT ON MY WATCH

2:51 Of course Martin Luther's revolution succeeded. He made sure his buddy Gutenberg printed enough pamphlets.

@amyreynolds7244

5 жыл бұрын

THIS COMMENT IS NOT GETTING THE LOVE IT DESERVES.

@jonsnor4313

5 жыл бұрын

He was the first mass media mogul.

@caleb-vince-7057

5 жыл бұрын

Martin Luther: "Hey, bro can you print these pamphlets for me?" Gutenberg: "Brochure"

@varana

5 жыл бұрын

Gutenberg died 15 years before Luther was even born but let's not get facts in the way.

@johnnotrealname8168

5 жыл бұрын

Also the Gutenberg Bible was the first (earlier I do not know if it was the first) Bible to be in German. Ages before Luther.

"You can't stab your way out of a disagreement" Is Blue's grasp on history slipping?

Speaking as a former Baptist (I’m now a non-denominational Christian) I very much agree with Blue’s Voltron Analogy. Especially the part about the in-fighting.

@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527

5 жыл бұрын

Neo232100 Current Baptist, very agree.

@Practitioner_of_Diogenes

5 жыл бұрын

As a Baptist myself, the voltron comparison could be applied to individual churches too. Church politics, one of the most annoying, and often pointless, things with modern day Christianity.

@Neo232100

5 жыл бұрын

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes Yeah it's honestly a really tragic problem that can be hard to find a solution for.

@FestivalofFreaks

3 жыл бұрын

Current Episcopalian coming outta nowhere just to say I agree

@alexdillahunt6908

3 жыл бұрын

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes I agree with the issue of church politics. When I was young, my church (Lutheran) brought in a second pastor to help out the first one before he retired. One issue going on at the time was that many, if not most, of the younger generations were leaving the church when they grew up. Most were still Christian, but they either left for other churches of become nondenominational. This had the effect that the church was shrinking to a worrying degree. The new pastor had a simple suggestion of adding modern hymns to the services in an attempt to attract younger Christians or keep some of the younger members from leaving. No big deal, right? Let me tell you, that did not go over well with some of the older members. Apparently, there was a lot of arguing amongst the elders on this topic that went on for far too long. In the end, the new pastor won out and they now have modern hymns mixed in with the more traditional ones.

It should be mentioned that, from what I have learned in my classes, Martin Luther originally wrote his 95 Theses in Latin, because as a good literate monk, he wanted to do some theological debates with other theologians

"That's a scam, F the church, here's 95 reasons why" - Martin Luther King

@vex3414

5 жыл бұрын

J G Nice Bill Wurtz reference.

@StumpyDaPaladin

5 жыл бұрын

You could make a religion out of that...

@JHowesitgoing123

4 жыл бұрын

minus the King but yes

@nukclear2741

4 жыл бұрын

@@StumpyDaPaladin no don't

Blue: "Honestly, I would tell the Hapsburgs to go screw themselves, but they beat me to the punch" It's things like that that make me f***ing love this channel 🤓😂

It's the delivery of the script that outright kills me. "1500 years of tradition and the most powerful bureaucracy in European history against One Hat Boi" made me cry, absolutely genius.

Ah yes, the long awaited squeal. This time: Martian Luther refuses to give a damn

@Mirro18

5 жыл бұрын

No, he gave THE DAMN, that is the whole point! Damn gave him power!

@tntimothyroditi1576

4 жыл бұрын

"Martian Luther" lmao he was so good at thinking outside the box because he came from another planet

@wandering.mongoose

3 жыл бұрын

Actually, he gave 95

@OCTBOI

3 жыл бұрын

martian luther? since when is he from mars? lol. also "sequel" not "squeal"

You should consider Islamic schism too. It's just as interesting and also have major impacts to various Islamic kingdoms/caliphates.

@imlonelypleasehelp5443

5 жыл бұрын

Andi Muhammad Ibnu Aqil would he look at the schism of Sunni and Shia or the individual branches for each? And what about Ibadism(my spelling might be wrong)?

@laurenkirby97

5 жыл бұрын

Covering Islam things would require a lot of context and is not really as simple and funny because Europe had a monopoly on idiocy at the time and idiocy is what makes it funny. It makes the whole subject less accessible than christian shenanigans which were mostly just a bunch of supposedly drunk Christians being stupid and stubborn while trying to rationalize it with the dumbest circular "logic" possible. Every religion had weird things happen and schisms at one point but with Christianity it was remarkably slapstick horror comedy

@imlonelypleasehelp5443

5 жыл бұрын

Andi Muhammad Ibnu Aqil you caused a thread that has revealed cancer shame on you.

@logoncal3001

5 жыл бұрын

Im curious: What the fuck is Ibadi

@Obi-Wan_Kenobi

5 жыл бұрын

To put it simply, Sunni and Shia differ over who should lead the Muslims. Sunnis believe anyone can lead and Shias believe the leader should be descended from the Prophet. This come from a Hadith where the Prophet said to look to his tradition and his family for guidance. Shias focused on that last part and interpreted is meaning only a descendent could legitimately lead the Muslims. This is the fundamental difference between the two groups but they have been separated for so many years that politics between them are extremely complicated. There are so many differing interpretations because they have been diverged for so long and often bad blood exists between the 2 groups based on historical conflicts that have nothing to do with religious disagreements. But, with all due respect to Blue, I don't think he should make a video about it. This topic requires a great knowledge of Islamic history, context, and theology. I don't think anyone could do it justice unless they really, and I mean really, do their research into Islam. And that's hard because most people (including many Muslims) don't have any understanding of Islamic theology and political science, which you need to properly explain this topic. To do it justice you need not just a perfect understanding of the facts, but also the atmosphere. And the facts themselves are difficult to acquire as leading historians, scholars, philosophers (both past and present) are mostly from Africa, the Middle-East, or Central Asia (aka Iran to India) and also because Islam has a mostly oral, not written tradition. So basically, it's unlikely you will get good information on American websites unless you know exactly where to look. Like reading a classically trained European's historical analysis of Islamic politics is not going to fly. You would need an actual Muslim scholar's historical analysis who was trained and educated is Islamic history and theology and get some primary sources which would have been written by a historical Muslim scholar. I mean, it's possible just extremely difficult. And the many, many misunderstanding and miseducation of the average American/European will only add to the difficulties of constructing such a video. Overly Sarcastic Productions has a huge following and can influence a lot of people. They they should only make such a video if they can guarantee they can do it right. ;-)

Blue: When we think of the term Christianity we are often tempted to think of one cohesive body working together to bring the world into a holy brotherhood of man Me: HA

@thelinedrive

5 жыл бұрын

As a Catholic that is best joke in this video. 😂

@rockyblacksmith

5 жыл бұрын

@@thelinedrive As a Mennonite, it's even better.

@Mailed-Knight

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah pretty much.

With or without memes, I really enjoyed this breakdown of religious history.

7:45 While the council of Trent did place an emphasis on individual faith, it also affirmed the Papacy, the clergy, and church tradition as sources of authority. The central tension between Protestantism and Catholicism is not just about individual faith vs. rituals, but about authority. Protestants hold the Bible as the ultimate authority over life and faith, while Catholics hold the church as ultimate interpreter of the Bible (thus making it their ultimate de-facto authority).

@Fakan

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if that's neglecting the fact that the church and other major powers essentially assembled the Bible themselves, deciding what stories to include and which to brand as heresy. I'm sure they came up with something ("God did it!").

9:54 Don't think that jab at the Habsburgs and their massive chins flew past me

@argr4sh

5 жыл бұрын

that joke made crack up for a good 10 minutes

I respect you a great amount for drawing a detailed map of the Unholy German Clusterfuck BY HAND My hat off to you, good sir

Fun little tidbit, Luther also was behind writing German versions of hymns of the time which were otherwise all in latin previously. All around he enabled a more personal interaction with the material the church held solely in a language almost no one spoke anymore I think Edit: if anyone has any corrections let me know

Regarding France in the 30 years war, why let religious brotherhood get in the way of age old dynastic squabbles?

@xo-1320

5 жыл бұрын

@erni muja American Revolution: Why let economic problems get in the way of screwing over that nation to your north by helping their colonies rebel.

@gnarthdarkanen7464

5 жыл бұрын

@erni muja, You claim to keep giving evidence... AND no. No, you did not. What you did was try to contextualize a WWI treatise with WWII's conclusion. The problem with that is that WWII is WWII, all of which happened as a consequence of the treatise from WWI... Time can't be magically reversed as if everyone KNEW what became of it before it could happen... Sure, the Treaty of Versailles had its pettiness, and a LOT of that was from French influence... AND it's worth pointing out that there were sympathizers who "turned a blind eye" when Germany started getting ambitious, probably because there was some reluctance to engage with this French Pettiness in that treatise... BUT... no one really foresaw what Germany was going to become. There was an uprising of the "everyman hero" profile in Germany, and Nazism was National Socialism... not surprising at the time, with nobility in decline and the feudal system all but a ghost of a memory... But you have to start giving evidence from BEFORE WWI to determine where the Treaty of Versailles was any better or worse than others of the time. THAT is how history works. You can't just jump on Post WWII reformations and say "See here! This is how we write treaties. That piece of sh*t from Versailles was clearly a travesty and everyone knew it." because no... They didn't. At Versailles, they KNEW Germany had taken the opportunity of chaos to rise up as a dominant political force. Even that the whole of WWI wasn't even about Germany, nor was Germany at the crux of the conflict, they asserted military power to draw out the conflict into such an attrition as to cost the entire world more horribly than necessary. Wilhelm was banished entirely, and more or less, stripped of any power... and a "more constructive" treatise at the time might've been then to see to it, HE rather than Germany as a whole, suffered all the consequences... BUT that simply wasn't the case. However we can argue the matter today, though. It's 20/20 Hindsight... something the folks involved intimately in Versailles at the time didn't have. The U.S. even pushed desperately for the League of Nations, and it held together shortly, but had absolutely NO teeth or substance to it... SO we could just as easily blame that failure in diplomacy as the root cause of WWII... AND why not? It's certainly popular to BLAME America for all the world's problems today, isn't it? ...So on behalf of Cegesh, either start citation on something earlier than WWI for a context of "whatever counts as an appropriate treatise of conquest"... on which we can then found our basis for discussion of the Treaty of Versailles, or find something more constructive to do with your time... like actually bothering to STUDY this history you seem to have a proclivity to disjoint and unjustly dismember. ;o)

@gnarthdarkanen7464

5 жыл бұрын

@erni muja Okay... first, not a big fan of France... so no. I''ve not offered them a defense. However, it's worth pointing out that once the bullets stop flying over your head and the shrapnel clears a bit... It's not difficult to see EVEN the biggest wartime conflict in history as simply the biggest mess ever made... and move right on. That's an unfortunate short-sighted nature of humans... By and large we don't just turn a corner and learn something... that's a sad but very real fact. Had WWI been truly THE war, there would have been plenty of push-back on France before the treaty was ever subject to ratification... Sure, France was in the bad habit of antiquated thinking... They had been pushed into that since Napoleon... SO there's not JUST the French being petty again, argument for you to be so sure of either... AND for the record, no, Versailles did NOT put the Nazis in power. There was quite a bit more to it than that... It's convoluted and more than a bit psychotic, BUT if it was all about Versailles, those would've been millions of French in the ovens, rather than jews and gypsies...etc... Versailles was simply one more list, along with a litany of others, that made Nazism more attractive... AND there's more than a little historic proof (way before WWI, too) that oppression and suppression do not function well with conquered peoples either. Look, there are ALWAYS some who foreshadow the oncoming next great catastrophy. AND there are ALWAYS those who dislike how "the powers that be" are doing things. Sorry to point this out, but there's always contention in society and that includes the very top ranks of diplomats who decided the dubious nuances and lines in the sand for generations to come... BUT that's also the problem with prophets. You just can't tell if they're credible until AFTER the prophecies are proven. WWII was primarily made possible by those who sought to put Hitler into power. AND that was more than just Hitler himself. He was as much coached into perceiving himself the messiah of the Arian Race... and the savior of Germany, as he actually had the demented ideal to rise in power simply to watch the world devour itself... The Industrial Revolution caused BOTH great wars of the twentieth century, and bleeding the inkwell dry about the details isn't going to change how very much industry and industrialism contributed not only to population booms like humans have never seen before... but to their conflicts over resources like we've never EVER consumed before. Looking forward. it's worth pointing out that treaties or no treaties, if we don't start getting a handle on that consumption at industrial rates... there's going to be a lot worse than WWII to worry about... even if we CAN manage to stem the real violent threats around it. AND in spite of Hindsight being 20/20, part of the ever spiraling fiasco they call "middle eastern politics"... the apparent height of diplomacy is still all about impoverishing millions. SO maybe France isn't the only "bass ackwards country" operating, either. There's still a lot of short-sighted cunts running around. ;o)

@gnarthdarkanen7464

5 жыл бұрын

@erni muja 1. I was NEVER arguing or trying to "talk over" you... If all you can see is an argument, I recommend a couple days OFF THE INTERNET, because you're starting to lose touch with reality... The fact is my very first instinct to respond to your earlier post was "Now was that so fucking difficult?" ...only about a half a paragraph in, I deleted it as "a tad too abrasive" in my judgment. Now I'm rethinking that judgment. 2. No... I'm pointing out where you seem to be hell bent to derail your original intentions... If all you can see is disagreement and some imposition of my opinion on yourself... See #1 up there for my remedy of the day for you. 3. I have NOT BEGUN to get patronizing. It's not patronizing to point out where details seem to be overtly missing, and it certainly SHOULD NOT be considered patronizing to point out perhaps better angles or approaches and supportive reasons WHY they're better angles or approaches with HISTORICAL AND RELEVANT information... like facts. (you do remember what those are. Right?) 4. You're certainly welcome. I don't know that you even know someone who can help... BUT it's worth the figurative stab in the dark to get anyone with an interest to consider those ramifications. 5. Assumed? The closest to that is what I might attempt to "tentatively discern" from your typing habits... Other than English potentially not being your first language (though it's worth admitting most of us "native English speakers" tend toward chewing the language hap-hazardly and letting it dribble out rather than actually SPEAK any of it)... I could (easily from this interaction) PRESUME that you are about 16 - 19 and fancy yourself somewhat dutifully educated, having read a few more books than required in school... and that somehow makes you a grand authority... Either equivalent to or superior of anyone else online. I hope you actually already knew most everything I cited, the point of those citations was to either alert to you that I'm aware of more than the prime focal point of the earlier argument, so you could elaborate on such things as you wish with some relatively minimal effort... say... a title of premise and relevant years or conflict as popularly known, to let me review when or wherever is convenient... I try, though sometimes the "popular terms" change from one place to another. Perhaps, my reasoning in citing those various points and nuances was simply in the deed of sharing facts as I thought relevant... such that you might see a hole or a missing piece, and bring that to attention in support of some part of the conversation you wished to impart... as intellectuals are often wont to do... In such activities, it's often easiest on both parties to start out relatively simply, and build from that earlier formative work... not to patronize, but to begin at the beginning, and continue until such a construct reaches past someone's understanding or memorized collection of historical narratives... where-upon we can narrow to the particular new focus, and create our new argumentations, even regarding whether this new spot in history is or isn't useful and relevant... This kind of practice also has the side benefit of honing BOTH our collections of argumentational skillsets, adding to vocabulary as well as the dubiously related collaborative evidence stockpiled... BUT you want to call me out for patronizing... because apparently, all anyone online can do is blindly agree YOU are the greatest arguer of all keyboard warriors... OR blatantly argue in such patronizing intonation, even though there isn't so much as a tonal notation suitable for type-face. I'd pay good money for some way my keyboard would short-cut me to a symphonic composer... that music notation crap is HARD AS FUCK! (and I have no relative talent in the skills... barely playing a didgeridoo, myself) SO see (once again) my original advice way back there at #1, because you "sound a bit stressed out" my friend. ;o)

@Mizzurani

4 жыл бұрын

@Cegesh Treaty of Versailes was pretty harsh for this Time just look up the Prussian French war. Its was way way softer. After Napoleon the Focus was more to hold up a Balance of Power. I mean Europe could have destroyed France after Napoleon completly but they didnt. And after this i dont really remember peace treaties which where as harsh like Versailes

"I would tell the Hapsburgs to go screw themselves, but they beat me to the punch." THE UTTER BRILLIANCE OF THIS SENTENCE!!

10:11 Swedish king joins 30 years' war? Gustavus Adolphus, Aka the Lion from the North. Cue Lion from the North, Got Mit Uns, and Lifetime of War

@ferrancabezadevaca8899

5 жыл бұрын

Bassically what happened was Gustavus Adolphus dragging the protestats to victory screaming wether they wanted to win or not.

@Plankensen

4 жыл бұрын

The guy we shot in Halden? Karl 12?

@Osric24

4 жыл бұрын

Sabaton ftw

@JenamDrag0n

4 жыл бұрын

I understood that reference!

@Acide950

4 жыл бұрын

@@Plankensen I mean, that was a completely different war and some 80 years later. Also a different king. Karl 12, or Carolus Rex, was doing the Great Northern War. Lost that, and once he dragged himself back to Sweden, decided to go to war in Norway, then died. Gustavus Adolphus died at Lützen; cause he got lost and rode into the enemy army (by himself, not as part pf the cavalry charge he was supposed to be in). During the 30 Year's War. But they were both kings that ascended the throne as teens, inheriting several wars from their predecessors, and died in wars. So there is a certain resemblance there.

As a German with history advanced-course in school: This is hilarious and very accurate

Look up the Church of the East and their involvement in the Persian Empire, Islamic Caliphates and the Silk Road. I feel this particular branch of Christianity really doesn't get enough love.

@savioblanc

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh the Church of the East, also known as the Nestorians

@danmseattle975

2 жыл бұрын

There's an Assyrian Church of The East congregation in Seattle.

“Dude you’re getting too analytical!” “What?” “You need more memes!”

It makes me very sad to see so much conflict between Christians. These guys are all supposed to be united under one religion, seeking to bring peace, compassion, and justice to the world. But there was so much conflict and I can't even blame everyone in these conflicts because there were legitimate aggressors/oppressors and other Christians were just defending themselves and/or the sanctity of Christianity. And for the record, I'm not Christian. But I know what Religious Unity is supposed to be and it greatly saddens me that this ain't it chief. :-(

@titanschannel585

5 жыл бұрын

Ever saw the book from C. S Lewis called Mere Christianity, it talks about the ideias that basically everyone agrees on

@Mailed-Knight

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@Osric24

4 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind how deeply intertwined the church and politics were at the time, just as Blue said. Political power is one of those things that inevitably taints a soul, I think. Power corrupts goes the saying, and for good reason. Tying in eternal fates on top is just recipe for disaster. It's why I believe, as a Christian, we'd have much less infighting if we 1) always gave up political gain or power. "Not by might (military) nor by power (political influence) but by my Spirit." And 2) took more to heart Jesus' teaching to the 12 about other disciples not of their little clique but still casting out demons in Christ's name: "if they are not against us they are for us." It seems most of Christian history is the opposite that we're all too familiar with: if you're not for us you're against us.

@LordVader1094

2 жыл бұрын

@@Osric24 The problem with that idea is how secular governments can discriminate against your religion as they please if you have no political/earthly power.

@Osric24

2 жыл бұрын

@@LordVader1094 In a way, that's expected. The Scriptures speak much on being persecuted for the sake of Christ. Our message should bother powerful people, because it tells them God wins even when they think they've won. The Cross is the ultimate example of this: Rome uses it to execute rabble rousers and traitors, saying how dare you defy Rome. The Jewish authorities wanted to use his death as a way to hold onto their own authority in the Jewish faith and community. And Christ says I defy Rome, the Sanhedrin, and death itself. But not by fighting death, but by dying, and through the Father's power, rising to life on the third day. We overcome not by fighting, but by sacrifice.

These Pope Fights remind me of a quote from Silent Hill 3 with Vincent being his usual self around Heather: "It's not uncommon for people to worship the same God and still disagree." Personally, I would attribute this to everything beyond and including religion, considering that every human mind is like an allegorical island or mini-universe separated by the fact that people can't exactly read minds (at least as of yet, there are studies using MRI machines to help, but since our brains are more complex beyond being based on chemicals, it's not a "perfected" study yet).

“Oh thank God, it’s the Catholic Church” ... “Oh no, it’s the Catholic Church”

Ah, yet another sack of Rome. Welcome to European history. It goes pretty okay, and then Germany decides to get really big really quickly and ruin everything.

@the11382

3 жыл бұрын

Also Europe: Let’s go to war!

@DukeofTxtspeak

2 жыл бұрын

Rome: Gets sacked Heavy metal fans: "THY WILL BE DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEE!!!! FOR THE GRACE, FOR THE MIGHT OF THE LORD!"

You guys should have mentioned Savonarola. That slick dolt ruled Florence as a theocracy for 4 years and in that time he coloured the skies of Florence grey with book burnings and had massive beef with the church. His schemes were dashed with a ruined trial by fire, and he turned from a friar to a fryer with his death by hanging and his corpse's cremation. Despite his massive, gaping flaws, he served as one of the main inspirations for Protestantism. Also, Corsica was part of the Genoa in the HRE, not the Papal States. Just being a pedant.

"And ended because nobody likes the Habsburgs." Mood.

I'm a simple man. When i see "pope fight".... i tap

@blue_ocean7774

5 жыл бұрын

@Evil Whitefaced Nick Cannon uh no 😂

The description of Luther digging himself a deeper and deeper hole as him taking alcohol interludes at an open mic? 👌 Not that I think he was wrong to say what he did - but as you're reading his bio, you can't help but think, "You can only get so murdered, my brother in Christ - maybe pump the brakes a minute"

6:30 THE LAST STAND! "FOR THE GRACE AND THE MIGHT OF THE LORD! FOR THE HOME OF THE HOLY!"

Correction: Rome CLAIMS to continue the traditions of St. Peter. This claim is very much disputed

@Val.Kyrie.

3 жыл бұрын

Especially with the use of four separate forged set of documents to do so.

@perseusjackson3637

2 жыл бұрын

And we win this round of “Spot the Prots”

@Mark-xh8md

2 жыл бұрын

@@perseusjackson3637 - Nice argument there. What a terrifying experience it must be to find out that "CUZ WE SAY SO, REEEEEE!!" isn't kowtowed to 😂

@perseusjackson3637

2 жыл бұрын

Bro it ain’t my job to convince y’all, I’m happy chillin with my Caths while y’all argue yourselves into a long-ass purgatory

@Mark-xh8md

2 жыл бұрын

@@perseusjackson3637 - Sure, Jan....

Lets get ready to BLESS and rumble

@MisterMalleable

5 жыл бұрын

Dr Rattvisa this SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY!

The art WAS amazing. Of particular note is the statue at 8:15: The Ecstasy of St. Theresa. Gina Lorenzo Bernini was commissioned to depict the vision. What’s noteworthy about the work is how it is illuminated. Bernini designed a lightbox, a chimney skylight that directed sunlight down upon the statue, reflecting against the metallic rays seen in the background. I’ve heard that when viewed in person the lighting effect in the dark chapel is just like a heavenly beam shining upon.

Ok so I know that this is an older video but I’m so happy you touched on the Huguenots! My mom’s side of the family has traced our lineage all the way back to the Huguenots and there’s actually a military fort that belonged to our ancestors still standing in France (Fort Dejoux)

I like the joke about how Luther would have taken a shot, then returned to the mic. Because he totally would have given how blunt he was about celibacy of the priesthood.

What a nice coincidence, I just went over this in art history yesterday! Nice work, very well put together~

Blue: “gee, Germany, tell us how you really feel” Me(German): “confused or wait: konfjust” Blue: “European history: it’s dense” Me(German European): “tell that to my history teacher and she’ll laugh at you”

I could not imagine watching this channel on 1.25 speed... I hit rewind like 30-40 times an episode. You guys do a really good job using multiple media to convey information at the same time. The video snippets of text and listening to audio is super hard to comprehend both, but really adds to the experience, especially if you rewind. I don't understand the 1.25x lol

I deeply enjoy your analyses Blue. Keep em coming!

Checkout the Munster Rebellion - literally the entire German Catholic Establishment + Swiss Mercenaries vs Some 24 year old Baker with a lot of wives. It was a stalemate for 18 months...

@spencerabdo5144

5 жыл бұрын

This is why I love history. The more you learn about it, the more you realize that the world is just one big DnD game and God is having a blast as the DM.

I love the way of blue speaks in the speed he speaks at it shows you in love with his topics

Gotta love that funny hat boi! Lol. I love your content guys, keep them coming and I'll keep watching!

10:35 A pagan goddess casting knowledge on the various Christian denominations of Europe is certainly an interesting way to depict the situation...

If the church fails, the door will get 99 theses nails.

@nicholasloremann4741

5 жыл бұрын

athe lightz You are beyond grammar and

Hey Blue, just to let you know you helped me pass a really important test today thanks to this video. Thank you so much.

Hey, Blue. Remember that one time you said you were going to talk about Zoroastrianism?

:20 “So the holy trinity is like voltron”-some dude “ I-I don’t know what that is.” -said st Patrick “Of course you don’t it won’t exist for another 500 years!”- some other dude (Can’t remember the exact video the comparison reminded me of)

@nolanmattson4313

4 жыл бұрын

gavin graves Luthetan Satire

Martin luther is my favorite DC villain *The way he used kryptonite to power his mechs is amazing*

Thank you Blue! You have saved my "literary establishment" essay!

Too damn glad that you talked about one of my favorite historical figures!

The 30 years war completely devastated southern and central Germany.

@varana

5 жыл бұрын

And northern (mostly north-eastern).

@tjcaranese5533

4 жыл бұрын

yeah the fact he glossed over the wars and death did a lot of damage too his arguements. also the reformation did a lot of damage too the church in it's praticese like funding of the sciences. while the church reformed it also arguably became a lot more conservative in its beliefs.

@moritzreinhard2504

Жыл бұрын

It wiped out one third of the german population.

@6:40 There's a foe of a thousand swords They've been abandoned by their lords Their fall from grace will pave their path, to damnation

@JohnDoe-zg6of

5 жыл бұрын

Then the 189 In the service of heaven They're protecting the holy line

Always appreciate the ac music, really puts me in the mood

It's always interesting to me hearing about the Huguenots, I'm from New Paltz, and grew up near the Huguenot Street Historic District, which has the oldest street in the US.

I'm Lutheran, so seeing this was a nice treat, especially as a history buff.

9:58 not me getting excited because a war with a number of years for the name actually had the correct amount of years (I’m glaring a you seven years war and Hundred Years’ War)

Sometimes I hit ya with the X2 but normal speed I retain more and I just love rewatching your stuff to help get some details to stick.

You channel is delightful! Long time fan here, first time commentor. Keep up the great work, guys! Got any merch?

THE HAT BOI WINS! And they say Alexander the Great won unlikely victories against much larger empires :D I say hat boi might be the greatest empire destroyer ever so we should call him Hat Boi the Great!!!

@herodotus945

5 жыл бұрын

The Catholic Church still exists while Protestantism is dying in Europe, look at the statistics.

@HavanneZ

5 жыл бұрын

@@herodotus945 still the catholic church has nearly no real power now days. Also Catholicism is loosing it's hold even more to secularism, just like Protestantism.

@herodotus945

5 жыл бұрын

@@HavanneZ not really, catholics are on average more devout and even in Europe can relly on several countries like Poland and Malta. In year 2000 there were 1 billion Catholics, now there are 1.3 billion

@HavanneZ

5 жыл бұрын

@@herodotus945 Yeah on average, but most of them are nearly as secular as the protestants. Rarely will you find any Christians in Europe that are "hard core believers". And the fact that there are more Catholics in Europe than there were 20 years ago, doesn't tell they are getting more religious, just that there are more people. Most of them are just new children born in catholic families. If there were huge amount of people converting to Catholicism or countries that drive for more religious laws over secular laws, you could make that point. But secularism is the driving force in Europe now days.

@HavanneZ

5 жыл бұрын

@@herodotus945 Also my point was that Hat Boi dismantled catholic churches power, not that he erased Catholicism. I don't think anyone would argue against that catholic church has almost no power over any country or peoples everyday life now days, at least compared to his time.

As German: Italy and especially Rome is a beautiful place, great architecture, considerable prices when you take the 3 corner to food and drink approach, nice weather, nice people and a weird taste for books in German(went to a bookstore in Florence to get a book for the trip home and... found only YA Vampire romances in German...) but the pizza is delicious, the pasta pomo d'oro is delicious, the cafe is delicious and the alleys are beautiful! And the fountains!🤩 (You can tell I love Rome?)

I can agree with Blue that Baroque art was beautiful-- I'm an art student with a side of String Orchestra and there's real beauty in the chiaroscuro art and the orchestra music You sir have my thumbs up!

dude I had my test on that subject yesterday morning ! Where were you ? :'( Really good video btw ! Love your work !

I want to see Blue play CK2 and do a Venice campaign.

9:36 *turns subtitles on* "Have fun in Circle Seven". OSP I'm dead haha!

i was waiting for this!

You know what you are about and you have good taste. Caravaggio's work is breathtaking especially in person (went to the Uffizi years ago, soooo cool).

Ive been listening and relistening to blue's vids for years now, including this one, and ive never considered his (or, for that matter, red's) speech anything but normally paced. Idk if they speed it up in post, to suit the audience, but, i have no complaints

@ThinWhiteAxe

Жыл бұрын

sounds to me like he talks pretty fast - in a good, information-rich way - but I am a Southerner, so... 😜

As a Lutheran I am legit excited for this video. Come on Hat Boi!

thats one of the first history summaries ive watched that made me feel proud to be german. thank you for all your awesome videos blue and red! :)

I LOVE what you did here. And your analysis is lovely no matter whatever Red says.

I was raised Lutheran with religion classes every year through high school. I am cracking up watching this video cause it is so true. Also, the memes

This atheist honestly preaching better than most Christians I know fr including myself. Your thoughts on the Christian religion and responsibility and thoughts on the self expression of ideals is interesting to listen to.

Hi Blue! Those protestants smashing up catholic paintings and statues also happened in the Netherlands in 1566. It’s called the ‘Beeldenstorm’ (literally translated the statue storm) and most of you images you used while describing the events are dutch images. The Beeldenstorm was also one of the caused of the Dutch revolt against the Habsburg/Spanish empire (which they were a part of until 1648). So the more you know! Funny for me to really recognize all these things you are talking about here, love your videos! (and also Red’s)

Hello! I have a wish! Could you please make a series about the seven architectural wonders of the ancient world? Thank you for being awesome and educating me on things I didn't know I was interested in 💜

6:25 “How about we sack Rome again!” *Sabaton intensifies*

0:59 It's been a day since this video has been uploaded, how are there no comments yet about how the Vatican is represented by _keyblades?_

As I heard a couple of years ago, the Saxons (i.e., the state which includes Dresden) take a lot of pride in Martin Luther, as his mission had a lot of ground in their kingdom. The Duke Elector suffered from a headache about him, wishing to never encounter him directly, ever again, and probably retreating to a castle well away from him (probably far away from Meissen, since it had the triumvirate of the cathedral, the ducal palace and the Marquis). (The friend I stayed with is a proud Saxon who put her head together with her brother to come up with a list of historical sites to go to with me, so I got to see some really good stuff thanks to her.)

@Atairy

4 жыл бұрын

A Person from Saxony here to say that your absolutely right. Even I'm proud for that and I'm not even religious. You just gotta respect the historical significance someone from your place has.

Thanks for the AP euro review 🙏