For anyone confused why you're seeing this episode again: Some of our patrons noticed Othais had completely left out the Danish Krag's second locking lug. If you've already seen the episode and want to catch the big alterations, start at 26:24 and rewatch the animation at 35:01. C&Rsenal remains committed to providing our viewers and patrons with the most accurate information available. We have corrected our mistake, added a bit more depth, and re-uploaded an improved episode for you all.

@chekovsgunman

3 жыл бұрын

Aw man, and here I thought Christmas came early this week.

@niklasaskham4208

3 жыл бұрын

It’s ok, I’ll watch it all over again 😘

@niel9612

3 жыл бұрын

Mistakes happen, thanks for correcting it and keep up the good work. This combines 2 of my passions guns and history. PS. I would not have noticed it if you didn't say.

@banzaibailey5891

3 жыл бұрын

You guys are awesome. I can't express how much I enjoy your work. Thank you.

@rotwang2000

3 жыл бұрын

I admire the dedication !!!

Catch Othais and Mae in the hit documentary Danish Krag 2: Locking Lug Bugaloo

@51WCDodge

3 жыл бұрын

Internet 'Astounded'!!! Or just for the real world,oops! Sorry folks.

I thought this would be interesting to me because I'm a Dane. It turned out to be interesting because it's a damn good story, told by a wonderfully engaged and knowledgeable host. Kudos to the entire production crew for this wonderful tidbit of Danish/Norwegian small arms history.

That's how we can tell that you genuinely care about providing the most accurate information you can. One of the many reasons I've seen every single video on that channel at least once, usually more.

*Deja vu : I've just been in this place before* Always good to see a new C&Rsenal video, Mk 132 Mod 1 will be watched as if 'twere Mod 0.

@aussiebloke609

3 жыл бұрын

Mk 132*

Having Midsommervisen play in the background while May was shooting was a classy touch.

Always glad to see these notifications come up, even when they're for corrections.

Finally finished binge watch all of the episodes, loved every minute of it. It's so fun to listen to history. Good job.

And thus, pleas and supplications are again brought forth to the insane machine god only known to the masses as "Al'gr-ythm". Though there are many factions and schisms among the tribes who live under its shadow, they all must acknowledge that regardless of what they call it, some greater power controls the harvest.

@WeDontTalkAboutJosh

3 жыл бұрын

Engagement for the engagement god, comments for the comment throne.

@ZGryphon

3 жыл бұрын

Praise be to the Omnissiah.

Fine. I'll watch it twice

@captmuttonchops

3 жыл бұрын

Comment for engagement

@BigVanillaBlast

3 жыл бұрын

@@captmuttonchops gotta do what you gotta do

Glad to see the Danish Krag getting appreciation. I'm ready for the Norwegian Krag episode soon. I own an 1894 & 1912 pattern Norwegian Krags.

@wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky man

>Knows from my patreon update that this is a minor correction >Clicks play anyway >Lets it play in the background muted so they can get their view

Hallo from Denmark, I'm 26 years old and that makes my grandpa and great grandpa soldiers in the time when we used the Danish 1889 Krag Jørgensen rifle. I own my great grandpa's original military photo from 1906 and they all stand with their Krags, so that is the one without the safety added. My grandpa used it from 1949-1950, so long service history. Thankyou for all the great vidoes, I watch almost all of them because post war late 1800s to ww1 is my favorit period in arms history and war history. Keep up the great work guys! you are awesome :D

Always happy to see another C&Rsenal upload! Always happy to watch another C&Rsenal upload with improvements!

This is why ya'll are so awesome. Trying to present to us the most accurate and comprehensive information.

thank you for putting out informative content and being one of the best shows on the interwebs

I’m gonna try to remember to comment every time I watch an episode cause I watch them all a fair bit Really just fell in love with this channel

@Candrsenal

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying it!

@eric21881

3 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal the ultimate sleeper channel for me. I wasnt ready for how much i love it. It seemed at first to be longer and more detailed than i cared for but its exactly what hooked me. The show is so excellently balanced and produced. It caught my interest for the things, particular firearms but the real fun is getting a better understanding of mindsets attidutes and cultural development behind the development advances in technology and how that really just kept changing things so quickly and dramatically. I'm learning about a lot more than the firearms. I can go on and on about how much i really appreciate the show. its more like a digital museum than a show. and i watch them all out of order

Sometimes I start to late to watch an episode and have to watch it twice, because I fall asleep. Not your fault. I always watch it with open eyes till the end on the next day. And often, I watch it at that seconde time from the beginning, because I love that stuff and there is usually so much background information, it is no fault to watch it twice. So, this episode will get it`s thrid watch from me. Keep up your awsome work.

Love you guys. Engaging the YT algorithm. I hope. Keep up the good work.

I have an American Krag-Jørgensen carbine that I inherited from my dad, who apparently bought it because he just had to have the model of gun that Teddy Roosevelt fought with on San Juan Hill. It's a really slick gun that I would definitely take to the range more often, if it weren't somewhat valuable. Anyway, it's cool to see the Danish version.

love the video. Thanks!

Great work as always.

The Krag-Jorgenson rifle's are fascinating to me and thet are ones I would consider collecting. Thank you for your hard work.

TYVM for the video!

Another great video. 👍 Liked and shared. As a descendent of Norwegian and Swedish immigrants I’m fascinated to learn of the seemingly outsized role the Scandinavian countries played in European and US gun development.

@quentintin1

3 жыл бұрын

well it generally helps for recognition if your country was a major player in a big war relatively recently

Sooooooooo are missing locking lugs the only way that we're going to get an upload at a reasonable hour? 🤔😂

@Frank-bc8gg

3 жыл бұрын

Normally I get peices of a rifle embedded into my person when that happens.

@joemontgomery6658

3 жыл бұрын

I know it’s time to go to sleep when c&r uploads

@betaich

3 жыл бұрын

Reasonable? Depends where you are in the world. Here it is 11 at night.

@tobiaszistler

3 жыл бұрын

@@betaich Aha nochn Deutscher hier :P

Hey I love you guys sorry I haven’t been consuming your content as often as I used to, my bad guys! Keep it up!

Well, I repeat myself then: does anyone else hope we will get a Berdan episode before the year is out?

@joachimb9305

3 жыл бұрын

Generic Person X You mean the primer caps for dual holes? Much easier with the boxers.

@genericpersonx333

3 жыл бұрын

@@joachimb9305 I am more interested in the story of his rifle, which of course would include quite a few details on the ammunition and its primer since that was part of the package he was selling. I find the most all the blackpowder big bores, and their frequent use in WW1, oddly intriguing.

@joachimb9305

3 жыл бұрын

@@genericpersonx333 Ah, the rifle ofcourse! But yes I agree that it’s fascinating with the use of black powder rifles in ww1. Black powder rifles seem so ancient, while at the same time I know that you can get a black powder rifle that’s so old it doesn’t need paperwork - and it is accurate out to nearly 1000m. I wouldn’t want to operate one in ww1 though!

I know I'm late but I've watch this show from the early days and well done always entering end informative thank you.

More people need to watch!

another great vid, keep up the good work

Okay now I see the difference both in the explanation and animation. Thank you very much.

Hopefully the re-upload doesn't hurt your metrics too bad.

@Candrsenal

3 жыл бұрын

There is some good and bad. The worst of it is that we lose the "wave" aspect of the algo. Better to be principled than to be popular though.

@peteranderson037

3 жыл бұрын

@@Candrsenal I get what you're saying but forgetting the second locking lug doesn't exactly make you Logan Paul.

Thanks for the great content

Thanks keep up the great work

Great episode

Great news. I've even gotten some of my non-firearms friends to watch your channel based on history and mechanical engineering.

Great series

A gun so good they did the episode twice.

Great show

Thank you both for such a though presentation on a cool rifle.

Hey, I figured I’d finally add my name to the comment pile. I’ve been sending some of your videos to buddies who have been playing hunt showdown, both of which actually don’t live in the US, and both of them can’t wait to visit and go shooting! I only wish I had some of these old firearms to let them shoot!

Nice job guys.

I love deja vu it's like I know what's going to happen

comment for the algorithm love yalls content

The Krag loading system does remind me of my mother's purse when i was a child. I'd love one for nostalgia reasons :). Great design also

I hadn't looked at the Danish Krags much, just the US ones. It's good to learn about their origins.

Yo dog, I'm just here tryna drive the algorithim.

@Primarch359

3 жыл бұрын

Choo Choo

@TomSalesJr

3 жыл бұрын

I'll help with that

@coldxmlpromax9550

3 жыл бұрын

Cho cho

@hidasinichi9308

3 жыл бұрын

feeding the algorithm choo choo

@joachimb9305

3 жыл бұрын

Engaging end- engagement, Liking comments Writing words

If you love history especially military history you must watch this channel

I’m a Patreon subscriber and truly appreciate your work. I will start commenting to help your algorithm.

People who watch Marvel movies eagerly wait to see the extra scene during or after the credits, but not all Marvel movies have such scenes. People who watch C&R videos eagerly wait to see the "War Were Declared" scene, but...

My grandfarther was mobilised as a conscript during WW1 and had the Krag-Jørgensen (either the long rifle or the carabine - I was so young when told, that I don't know which: I do remember he had pinched both the short bayonette and the really long sword bayonette. As to recoil: He remembered (and did he remember?) during an exercise shooting blanks. The blanks were normal cartridges with a wooden plug instead of a bullit. Now he saw a hare and wanted to supplement dinner, so he unplugged the wooden plug and put a small stone in there - replugged, and fired at a hare. (Let's say Elmer Fudd?). The recoil was so harsh that he had a sore shoulder for weeks afterwards - remembering 40 years later. Just for Your information.

What was the song played during the firing segment? It was lovely

Nice!

Nice to see the Danish Krag's two lugs compared to the American One Lug bolt. Good to see a good error correction. Fantastic work as always.

@Master...deBater

Жыл бұрын

Do you own an American Krag? My US 98 built in 1899 has the second locking lug that butts up tight to the receiver. I have no idea what Othais is talking about!

@cannonfodder4376

Жыл бұрын

@@Master...deBater Don't have a Krag so I wouldn't know.

I really like that flannel!

The song is: Midsommervisen with score of Lange-Müller and lyrics by Holger Drachmann; but the interesting part is that I think the vocalist is Aksel Schiøtz - about the prettiest tenor voices in Denmark - ever. Probably the 1941 recording as he has a slight vibrato - indicating somewhat later in his carrier? But that is just my lousy ear........

Are you guys gonna do an episode on the US Krag carbines by chance?

Thank you

always nice to see another video even if it's a correction.

Normally I hate the "Please like and subscribe" thing but Othias is so charming and they work so hard I'll be damned if I'm not liking and sharing.

Good stuff

He'll I don't mind, love watching these anyways❤👏

Still great the second time around.

Another great Episode! If you are on the fence on giving this one a no based on slow loading, would you revisit your soft yes on the Lebel? This seems pretty superior in every way to me. All of the downsides are even worse in the Lebel.

I've seen other research that, based on loadings offered by Norma, the bullet shouldn't be exceeding 2100fps. Any thoughts, Othias?

I was wondering about the second locking lug, much appreciated!

@Master...deBater

Жыл бұрын

Do you own an American Krag? My US 98 built in 1899 has the second locking lug that butts up tight to the receiver. I have no idea what Othais is talking about!

@Master...deBater

Жыл бұрын

Do you own an American Krag? My US 98 built in 1899 has the second locking lug that butts up tight to the receiver. I have no idea what Othais is talking about!

Very cool :)

Was this before or after the gewehr 71 experimental horseshoe magazine?

If you are confused by the name "Christiania" it does NOT refer to the part of Copenhagen that has been populated by squatters since the 1970es, but the city now known as "Oslo".

It is great that some people still care about correcting mistakes and removing fiction even if that comes at some cost. You are probably going to see a lot less watch time and engagement from the reupload, and The Algorithm probably won't look to kindly on you.

I don't know why but I love these guns

Looking forward to the unloading podcast that gives the behind the scenes pandemonium that must have been happening when the error was realized after publishing.

@maewinchester2030

3 жыл бұрын

Lol we were just discussing what to go over on the podcast yesterday too and then that happened

Thank you from this humble dane for covering this Danish rifle. And nice touch using "Midsommervisen" as soundtrack for the shooting segment. And you at least tried with the pronounciation, and almost succeding "Amager" is more like "Ah-mahr", the G is silent!

God you guys are great; love what you guys do together; I get no one is perfect but I love you guys; God bless you brother

Interesting about the half cock safety and the 1910 upgrade to a real safety. I have a 1907 KJ later modified to .22 by Otterup Geværfabrik. It does not have the 1910 upgrade, which if i understood correctly is a rarety?

If you know what to look for/know what you are looking at you'll notice that Sgt. Shultz of "Hogan's Heroes" fame carried a Krag-Jorgensen throughout the 1960s TV series.

Have you met my friend? His name is Albert Gough Rhythm. He goes by Al, and can be a fickle man.

23:16 So about this little hole... Maybe I missed it in the video, but i'm curious to know about it.

My 1899 model 98 Krag's second locking lug butts up tight to the receiver...not sure where you're getting your information!!!

What a cool rifle!

Fun fact, sgt. Schulz from Hogans Heros usualy carrys a Krag-Jørgensen rifle (standing in for a Mauser rifle)

Ohhh yeah!

You know better than I do but I don't know of any other rifle, that doesn't use a changeable box magazine, that you can reload with a round in the chamber and bolt closed than the Krags. They may not be my first choice to go into battle with if I could choose but they were unique and innovative for the time.

Commenting for the thing

was also sgt schultz'z rifle on hogans heroes

Doing it for Othais!

I was so confused until I read the comments. I want a Krag.

engaged!

I have a feeling those soldiers who were manning the Danish forts during the German invasion in WWII were probably cursing as they had no chargers and were single loading cartridges into their magazines as they were getting shot at by MG 34s and MP 38s.

Rewatching bc I'm curious how othias is gonna do the correction

im late to the video, going to carbines after. Good Video Thanks !

Looks like lightning strikes twice sometimes!

The Rube Goldberg loading arrangement that doesn't lend itself to chargers and looks really expensive to manufacture seems appropriate only for a small, wealthy nation (Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland) or one with a small army and the potential for big spending (United States). It was a transitional design moving from the Kropatschek style tube/chain detonation magazine toward the eventual Mauser style. The Krag-Jorgensen line was a dead end and the United States wisely dumped it for a pair of Mausers - the Springfield 1903 and Enfield M1917. One issue I was surprised was not mentioned is the tendency of the bolts without paired locking lugs, offset evenly, to "stretch" over time, leading to increasing inaccuracy as the rounds fired accumulate and the metal in the bolt distorts. guide.sportsmansguide.com/tips/spomer-shooting-rear-locking-lugs-explained/

@903lew

3 жыл бұрын

Correct. However, Sweden was at the time extremely poor (thus; Minnesota) and wisely chose the Mauser.

DUDE! Erik Jørgensen looks a lot like Othais!

Just doing my part for the 'rithm.

Adding a comment because KRAG! And the algorithm. Plus, who doesn't like Remington Rolling blocks?

@thetacticaltusken

3 жыл бұрын

Evidently the Danes wanted the RRB’s replacement for one reason or another

Even after that animation I still don't understand how the last round makes the turn to come out into the path of the bolt

I got a notice, so it's working. I guess!

I have a question, why does Mae never cycle the bolt while shooting with the rifle at the shoulder instead of the hip?

@KarltheKrazyone

3 жыл бұрын

They have mentioned in the past that it has to do with how long she stands there to film the segments (they batch shoot several guns) and they don't want to risk poor footage when they may only have a few spare rounds. Mae is also checking the spent cases to ensure that they are not having a problem with the gun (they have had problems arise in the past) It also keeps the footage and process consistent, so that comparisons are easier. Other channels like BritishMuzzleLoaders go more in depth into the "drill" or doctrine of the times, but that takes a lot more research, and there has to be some limits to the scope of the project, or nothing would ever get done. So, lots of reasons, but overall, it seems like consistency is the main goal.

@Davemte34108

3 жыл бұрын

That has been answered by them before. These are not in most cases their guns and the ammo is mostly hand made or modified. She needs to make sure of proper extraction and feeding. As she has said this is not target shooting, but a demonstration.

@JohnnyLouisXIX

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@maewinchester2030

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, here I came to reply but ya'll are already on it. Longest time standing in one position without lifting my feet is currently 45 minutes. I do not hope to beat that cause my feet go numb after 25 minutes, lol