History of WWI Primer 142: Siamese RS 121 Type 46 Documentary
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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The Siamese Mauser
Francis C. Allan & Roger L. Wakelam
Japanese Contract Rifles
Doss H. White & Francis C. Allan
The Early Arisakas
Francis C. Allan , Doss H. White, Dr. Standley Zielinski
Late Siamese Mauser Handguards
Francis C. Allan
Arisaka Prototype to Compete for the Siamese Rifle Contract
Takehito Jimbo & Francis C. Allan
Siamese Mauser Postscript
Francis C. Allan
The Last Siamese Mauser?
Francis C. Allan
Siamese Manufactured Type 46 Long Rifle
Jonathan Paterson & Francis C. Allan
Siamese Test or Sales Sample Rifle?
Chip Goddard & Francis C. Allan
Siam and World War I
Stefan Hell
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Fun fact there is actually a Buddhist shrine dedicated to king chulalongkorn in the north of Sweden. He came to visit in 1897 and a hundred years later they built a shrine to honor him. Been there a few times and it is a beautiful place.
@chooseyouhandle
2 жыл бұрын
It took them 100 years to build a shrine?
@bakerking5351
2 жыл бұрын
@@chooseyouhandle permits were hard to come by
@wasinpunti7918
Жыл бұрын
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@austinm.9832
Жыл бұрын
@@chooseyouhandlenot many experienced buddhist shrine builders in europe
For anyone confused: The public schedule is now "locked in." There will be another full length episode in two weeks, and then two weeks after that, just like it has been for years. In one week the next trap episode drops like usual as well. I will say, the next big episode is going to be a special. It will be available "early" to Patrons next week.
@michaelmclaughlin4889
3 жыл бұрын
Is it possibly the 1911?
@LukeBunyip
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmclaughlin4889 Nah. Mae it's going to be special. 😜
@virusguy5611
3 жыл бұрын
Omg c and r are back yesssd
@planescaped
3 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be that Tokarev that's been hiding in the back is my guess. Or the start of the long-planned shotgun series.
@ketsuekikumori9145
3 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, has the patron "beta testing" worked out? Assuming at all that this video had mistakes when it was originally released to patrons before being released to youtube.
King: Now, shall Mr. Lingkong be winning this war he is fighting at present? Anna: No one knows really. King: Well, does he have enough guns and elephants for transporting things? Anna: I don't think they have elephants in America, your majesty. King: No elephants? No wonder he is not winning war!
@Mike-tw1pi
3 жыл бұрын
True story.. Lincoln did in fact politely decline the King of Siam's offer of two elephants.
@31terikennedy
3 жыл бұрын
That's why they call Republicans elephants:D
@voiceofraisin3778
3 жыл бұрын
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Elephant Bombards are useful but the elephant of surprise is better!
Back in the dark ages, the origin of the "Siamese Mauser" was to allow budding gunsmiths an opportunity to rechamber to a fun cartridge like .45-70!
@offcourseoverland
2 жыл бұрын
I have one and it's a strange rifle.
@sharonrigs7999
4 ай бұрын
I have one too! It's a thumper
Othais: starts rattling of the name of the rifle Me: is this one of those animes the kids are talking about?
@mikepette4422
3 жыл бұрын
most likely cause i don't understand any of it
@davidbrennan660
3 жыл бұрын
Not as worrying either.
@KriLL325783
3 жыл бұрын
You mean those chinese cartoons?
@csm5040
2 жыл бұрын
@@KriLL325783 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Othias: "The most beautiful thing..." May: *he is talking about the rifle isn't he?*
Brave man Othais, taking verbal pot-shots at the lady with the rifle.
@Tallus_ap_Mordren
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. She also knows where he sleeps, and where he keeps his ammo.
I once owned a type 38 carbine in 7.7 Japanese. It was in the 1940 Siamese Rifle test trials. It had several unique features----the only markings were the serial # and a small triangle on the chamber, The rear sight was on a curved ramp, the front sight was on a widened bridge with squared ears with a squared holes. the barrel had 3 smaller blocks to hold a type 30 Bayonet at the proper length for mounting. The butt stock had a Mauser style sling slot cut in it. I sold it to Fred Honeycutt any years ago . The last time I saw him he said he still had it and no he didn't want to sell it back to me. Bob Benson
"This rifle normally uses a stripper clip...So it's single loading for me" And that's the reason the Mauser style magazine is better (for the collector, 100 years later) than any using an en bloc clip
I don't know how i went 31 years into my life without this channel... The knowledge is magnificent. This is what history class should have been.
@Candrsenal
3 жыл бұрын
Thank.
Years ago I had to take my Type 46 to a Thai restaurant to get them to translate the writing/markings on it. They were not only able to translate the rifle's serial number but they ID'd the other markings on it as well, incl. the crest. It was an 8x52r caliber which at the time I owned it could only be made from 7.62x54r brass and that meant about $65.00 a box (early '90's). The rifle shot 'decently' with that ammo, not well enough for me to keep it.
I'am from Thailand.I love Siamese gun
Amazing... As an American with Thai Heritage I would love to have one of these!
Wait a sec...War Were Declared, Siamese troops actually saw service, but no patented "War Were Declared" video clip?
@Herintruththelies
3 жыл бұрын
We got gyped!
I like the touch of Mae attempting to close the bolt on an empty chamber, just to prove that the magazine hold-open does, in fact, work, even after a hundred years.
I wouldn't want to be the elephant drive when they fire the cannon.
Fun fact that seems to have been deleted from contemporary history books: the original Siamese conjoined twins, Chang and Eng Bunker, got rich doing 'freak show' tours. They invested their wealth in a plantation and slaves in the Carolinas where they settled down, married, and had children. Their children fought in the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy.
@Tippet76
3 жыл бұрын
Which history books are you saying they were deleted from?
@hailexiao2770
3 жыл бұрын
@@Tippet76 The ones written by "underrated" contrarian edgelords, of course
@danielkorladis7869
2 жыл бұрын
well that sucks
@waffle-do1qx
5 ай бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chang_and_Eng_Bunker
You know the world is right when after firing the rifle, Mae gives that satisfied sigh/smile!
Its semi-official name was "รัตนโกสินทร์ ศักราศ ๑๒๑" (based on ร.ศ. ๑๒๑ mark) and It should be pronounced like "Rat-ta-na-kho-sin Sak-ka-raj Nueang Song Nueang" (if you pronounce Thai number as an individual number), which Othais managed to correctly pronounce the "รัตนโกสินทร์" part. PS: its official name according to Royal Thai Army (RTA) is "ปืนเล็กยาว แบบ 46", which can be translate to "long rifle, model 46", and number 46 came from a year it was adopted in Buddhist Era 2446 (1903). Also, its western name according to RTA is Siamese M1903.
See? This is why I love y'all so much. I had never even heard of this beautiful rifle before this video, and am now going down a rabbit hole of reading about the history of Siam/Thailand, 😂😂😂. Also, thanks to you guys, I bought a Vetterli M1870/87/15 along with my own copy of the book "The Italian Vetterli Rifle," and bought a Winchester 1907 when I went to the gun store to pick up a Gen4 Glock 20 10mm Automatic, 😂😂😂😂.
Always love videos like this and the Berdan (to name a few) that tell about the Country’s history.
lets see Ian do a mud test with this, followed by Othias having a sudden panic attack
@LadyAnuB
3 жыл бұрын
😅
@donjones4719
3 жыл бұрын
Only if Ian "forgets" to close the dust cover.
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ
3 жыл бұрын
@@donjones4719 Honestly it might still pass. If I remember correctly the K98 they tested passed even without a dust cover. So a 98 Mauser action with an addition of an intergraded dust cover I would expect to pass even if that dust cover was left open.
Grug has one. Grug like... much fun.
I've been a subscriber for 18 months and have come to enjoy learning about the military firearms of WW1. One of my favorite parts of each episode is when you both speak about the firearm and Mae's impression of it. Your playful banter makes me smile. An episode dealing with the problems and solutions reloading ammo for some of firearms would be interesting to me, nothing too technical just general information.
Saw a bunch of these at the Thai Air Force Museum in the display for the Thai-French war.
@davidegaleotti94
3 жыл бұрын
Steal them while you can
@jtilton5
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidegaleotti94 Yeah, I really don't want to have a stay in The Bangkok Hilton... Especially with 9000 new covid cases in Bangkok a day.
@davidegaleotti94
3 жыл бұрын
@@jtilton5 I get that :/ I wonder what the Thai museum calls them, tho, considering the confusion on the designation.
@jtilton5
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidegaleotti94 When I first saw them I mistook them for Arisaka rifles, (most of the Thai planes in the museum from this time period were of Japanese manufacture also.) It was only through some research I found out what they were. Though I haven't been back since then so I don't know the specifics of the rifles on display.
@demonprinces17
3 жыл бұрын
@@jtilton5 don't think it's covid you have to worry about in there
Fantastic animation, seeing the improvement over the years is worth my Patreon.
Always love seeing guns I've never heard of before. Great work as always!
Once again, a rifle sheds light on obscure and complicated history . Thank you!
There is a such a wealth of info in these videos! Thank you guys for the hard work!
A bit of help with your pronounciation there. Ra-ta-na-ko-sin-sok nueng-roi-yi-sib-ed. I'll keep em coming as I watch through. All this might sound like nitpicking, but getting it right helps others along the line. 4:48 The reigning dynasty then and now is actually the Chakri dynasty, with Rattanakosinsok being the total reigning period of the dynasty. That type of year counting has almost completely fallen out of use in modern times. Current year is ร.ศ. 226. 30:27 Pronounced Bo-worn-det by locals, he later led a failed royalist rebellion in 1933 against the constitution monarchy in an attempt to return it to an absolute monarchy. In all honesty, there's been more coups here than I can keep track of over the years. Have fun with that. 46:18 The crest in the picture shown says แบบ๔๗/๖๖. The direct translation of แบบ is type, so that would be the Type 47/66. 46:49 Pronounced Plaak Pi-bun-song-kram.
@Simon_Nonymous
3 жыл бұрын
It's not nitpicking - it's always useful to be told how things are pronounced from people who know, so we can say it correctly. And that's from an Englishman, old boy!
@rrich52806
3 жыл бұрын
Karen
@hermatred572
2 жыл бұрын
@@rrich52806 lee
@rrich52806
2 жыл бұрын
@@hermatred572 Karen! Is that really you. Missed you
Very cool and elegant rifles, underappreciated. I have one in the 8x52R chambering and like it a lot. Thanks for this wonderful video on these fascinating rifles!
That's wild that the deal was with Mitsui. Used to see their ships and containers at the port here all the time growing up. Also clever of Siam/Thailand to contract with Mauser for the design but have them manufactured in Japan to keep from drawing too much attention in Europe.
Both of info about the gun and extra Thai history are so valuable to hear. Thank you so much
Wow!! Finally!! Been waiting for a feature on the Siamese! Thanks!
I'm really happy you guys went into such detail with these rifles. There are very few good resources on these mausers.
all your hard work is very much appreciated.
It wasn't that long ago this channel only had 20k subs. You love you see it!
Interesting slice of gun history and very well done as usual. Enjoyed this a great deal. God bless all here.
I've been waiting a LONG time for this episode.
Thanks for all the research work Maurice.
A great channel and so much content I’m never bored
Comments equal support. Let's lift em up boys!
I don’t like this video because it shows how much my RS121 (as I shall call it from now on) has been screwed with. I felt the algorithm needed to know that.
@TheRealColBosch
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had one of these that someone previous jerkwad had butchered. I also had a gorgeous example that was unmolested, and looked even better than the one in this video.
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ
3 жыл бұрын
In what way was it screwed with? Depending on what was done, it's possible it was done in some sort of official capacity.
this is a really cool mix of arisaka and mauser. one of the coolest bolt guns i have seen yet
Another good show. Thanks.
Tonight, perfect timing. Excellent.
Of course you guys post the long awaited new video when I'm sleeping. I dont even know how! You guys are basicly in the same state!
This is my favorite series!
Awesome episode as always
These are such great episodes
I remember seeing one of these at a gun show and thinking how weird it was.
I fired one of these converted to 45-70 years ago. Lots of fun. and really smooth.
Great video, as always.
It was interesting to hear about this rifle after the first world war. Looking forward to your episodes when you get outside of the great war.
Wow, I'm subscribed and belled and I never saw this in my feed. I guess I get a "new" episode while you folks are busy catching up after the recent stuff.
Magnificent history class. Thank you
I always support by buying merch bc it’s not enough to love this show, I have to subject everyone else to it as well
I didn't know Othais is so good at history narration! As a Thai guy, I approved
Primer!!!! So excited when i saw it.
Thank you to Ohas for this gun, out left Grandstand (Far Left Field), Great Film
Ty very much for making a video on this not very well known rifle. Also hey, that pronunciation was great man!
Awesome content guys.
I bought mine from an add in "Shotgun News" sometime in the 1970`s. No ffl required as ammunition was "not available". I`d of tracked down the Austrian round if I had known it would have worked!
Thanks Mae and Othais
Thank you
We had a couple of these. They converted into excellent 45-70s.
Othais, thank you for doing your duty!
Budda's nips on that statue are bold indeed. They're nearly a big as a rivet from the ill fated titanic.
Gorgeous looking Mauser, almost as nice looking as the Persian model. Always wanted one, never had a chance to pick one up. Gun shows around here are terrible. Always the same vendors selling the same stuff (which never seems to sell anyway) at the same inflated prices.
"Tune in this week for the return of The All Mauser Channel!" Jk, love the show
My dad has one. He paid 15 dollars decades ago and had it converted to 30 40 Krag which was common to do back then since there weren't even reloading dies or components for the rifle at the time.
Thanks for the video.
Great video!
May and othias the dynamic duo!
YAAAY, new episode
WOW is best rifle , watching from Thailand .
one of the best programs on the inter weebs
This episode makes me want to go dig out my own Siamese Mauser to have a fresh look at it and perhaps make up some ammo for it.
Oh I see they started with a Mannlicher model and thats why the 8x 50 mm R cartridge. Ok that makes sense @32:55 Oooo ! that 8 x 50 sounds very satisfying as it goes boom
That's a beautiful and practical mud cover (for out of combat mud protection), wonder why no other major power picked up on it.
This gun looks slick.
Thanks for reminding me to comment Mae!
Extremely interesting!
Strange, as long as I've watched this I've never had confirmation these 2 are a couple. I mean, I suspected and figured they where.. but never actually heard them say anything about being together. Confirmed.
13:30 dude, you just blew my whole mind. SHIPPING!
I see C&R video, I make a fresh pot of coffee amd clear my desk. I am a simple man who enjoys simple things
that bolt just sounds so good, proper clonk.
Nice job on a very tough rifle.
I love this gun so much I'm dying to get my hands on one
Alright, I can go to bed early! Phone: KZread Beep GODDAMNIT!!!!!
44:26 King plans on transitioning to a Constitutional Monarchy, *gets one* - *Rolls with it like a boss*
This is a support comment. Great video as usual !
What a wholesome experience to watch amazing chemistry between you 2 and learn more amazing facts about German gun perfection from all over the world and history.
Another great piece of work - your historical background alone is worthy of a University degree or two.
I didn't realize how many different types of the same gun there were
@SpaceCowboyfromNJ
3 жыл бұрын
If you really think about it, that is quite common for military firearms just look at the US military. You have the M16, M16A1, M16A2, M16A3, M16A4, M4, M4A1, and probably a dozen other variants in service that I am not thinking of.
@baker90338
3 жыл бұрын
@@SpaceCowboyfromNJ most of the m16 variants are carbines and different optics mounting attempts (mostly unsuccessful seeing as the builds had no generalization when it came to rails until the m4, and the after market for such options were small)
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
7 ай бұрын
@@baker90338Nonsense. From the original prototype to the current rifle almost all components had to be redesigned (Sometimes twice) for greater strength and durability. The weight of the rifle also increased massively.
For the people who wonder what background music is. it is Siamesische Wachtparade.
Dang! I would LOVE to find one of these that was converted to 45-70 that Othais says is out there in the market !!!
@turbografx16
3 жыл бұрын
I had one that was very professionally done. Very attractive and accurate rifle. Fit 3 rounds in the magazine iirc. I sold it when I was in college and still regret it.
I'm commenting Mae! I'm commenting!
Darn, I was hoping for a tune from "The King and I" as background music in the shooting segment.
it would be good for the color "drawings" to include a line for the 2-piece stock since thats so distinctive and involves such impressive joinery