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That’s not enough revolvers, Othias.
A video so important, Othais was willing to dryfire a bunch of his guns to make it.
Fully into his revolver era
Such hard work and attention to detail should not go unnoticed.
Dictionary madness meets revolver madness.
This is a wonderful episode! Thank you for the deep dive, and I hope your team is doing well!
Nomenclature and a source to FIND the definition of an item is paramount. It is Nice; if and when, there is a industry wide agreement - and reference SOURCE. Lacking that a source that ILLUSTRATES, compares and defines like function is beyond useful. BRAVO ! An heroic effort ! I just like revolvers but find a lack of clarity in my understanding, thought it was me, ThankX !
Billy Preston: "Will it go 'round in circles?" Othais: "It ain't quite that simple, buddy."
Only Othias can make 40 minutes of video that is solely about the sprogs & gadgetry nomenclature of a revolver interesting to someone who has never owned a gun. 👍
This is the level of nerdy detail that I've come to love about c&rsenal
This type of work is why I'm a Patron. Absolutely next-level work!
I loved the video, Othais! Your channel is the only one that I follow so devotedly as I learn so much from it. You are quite the professor of firearms knowledge. I cannot afford much, but I make a point of buying tshirts from you every year. You, Mae, and Bruno (and Mark Novak) have made such a great team for the presentation of the historic knowledge of firearms. Thank you!
Clarity and consistency can actually dissipate befuddlement in many cases. Thanks!
i think this has to be one of my favorite episodes so far as this brings into perspective a lot of past ones. great work on this one!
I refer to everything as thingamabobs, doohickeys, and whatchamacallits.
The new term sound effecf has already won me over. I do enjoy a good set of definitions and terms.
Wheel guns at last have a guy who can name bits of it…… thus the world is made clear. That was some good work as ever.
Great stuff - revolves the forgotten sidearm
US Patents allow the inventor to use his own terms to define whatever it is that comprises his invention. Developing a general glossary of revolver components and their variations is welcome.
All those wonderful revolvers. Eye candy for sure. Thanks for your efforts , I’ve enjoyed all your content.
Thanks!
Dying at the noise when the word discussed comes on screen.
Othais will now take on the job of creating a governing body to standardize all firearms terms. ISO-Arsenal.
Overall great episode. Very helpful. As for another weird revolver which might need another word; the Merwin and Hulbert. The flange around the arbor on the back of the frame serves as the extractor, but it also serves as the datum which sets headspace. I think the most logical choice for a name would be "flange extractor," or "extractor flange" but I'm open to suggestions. I also think using either one of those would require you to specify the other extractors as "extractor stars."
God bless you, Othias. Your particular level of autistic-like attention to detail is unrivaled. Thank you for everything you do ❤
Thanks for sharing your love and interest in the mechanics
Ok you just HAVE to make a revolver development book, to get all this accepted. You know the publisher.
A latch is a point of contact that allows closing but holds it locked. This is most commonly done with a spring loaded ramp.. The lever or button is the "latch release."
Wonderful ! Thank you for such detailed overview of Revolvers and Words.
30:00 I have a lot of friends who do civil war reenactment and they commonly call the part that directly contacts the cap an "anvil" to differentiate it from a "firing pin" I don't know how historically accurate that is and it sounds backwards because you usually don't swing an anvil to strike something, but it does make sense in that it's a flat surface that is being struck.
Amazing work, re-inventing the wheel-gun
Othias accidentally became the premier expert on revolvers. When is he going to write a book?
VERY informative with examples from some most interesting revolvers! Glad I found this video.
That was an excellent tutorial, very informative. thank you from England.
Great job. Now look at a Massachusetts Arms Co revolver and try not to scream into the void.
The idea to write the terms on the screen at the same time as you say them is very helpful for the non-native English speakers. 1:21 I think this is a bit of an overstatement. In my experience very few people in the gun community actually know the inventors of even the most popular locking systems, at least when it comes to (semi-)automatic arms. 5:25 Is the term 'grip plates' used? 14:41 To give you an idea of just how far back it goes there, the doglocks were in use in the 1640s already, Jonathan Ferguson did a video on those a long time ago, sadly now gone. 35:21 This would be an Adams-style ejector rod, as opposed to Perrin & Delmas style.
Just to reframe your description of the "nipple": rather than think of it as firing pin, think of it as a ported anvil attached to the cylinder. This way the striking surface of the hammer remains the "firing pin", even though it does not have a proper "pin" shape to it. In some ways, the cap-and-nipple is like a distant cousin to the Berdan priming system, this keeps the language relatable.
This dictionary needs to be a published book.
Fascinating never understood revolvers all that well till I bought my first one a C78, 7.6mm Mauser Zig-Zag for my collection. Though it's pretty weird compared to the average revolver.
Great work, it's amazing how many slightly different mechanical compositions there are for achieving the same few functions. Especially compared to semi-autos where it seems like a handful of proven systems are just copied over and over.
There is one unique term used forever Othias purposefully did not use. This term was applied but never for exactly the same part. All Hail the DINGUS!
Much appreciated. 🙂
Very good video. Your hard and diligent work is obvious. I doubt I'm the first to say you should publish these terms in an actual lexicon.. I bet Ian would be willing to give you a hand, assuming he can fit into his schedule. Thanks for your diligence, as always.
Thanks Othais ❤
If the grip has stock plates then the grip should be called the stock. Just like keeping the consistency you mentioned for the extractor and extractor rod.
This video is striking my tism in just the right way
Hopefully these catch on, or at least start a discussion that leads to some sort of unified terms.
Wonderful video
Words and their meanings are important.
10 minutes in? I had to pause to take notes! Thanks.
@8:21 - as Ms. Philomena Cunk remarked to me when I mentioned this component on camera... "rat shit?"
@F1ghteR41
17 күн бұрын
The man himself! If I may bother you with a question, since doglocks were alluded to in the video, do you plan to revisit them in your series?
@jonathanferguson1211
16 күн бұрын
@@F1ghteR41 Othais mentions a 'dog', which is a generic descriptive term for a component that grabs onto another component, so a shared word origin but not the same thing as the 'doglock' per se. Which really doesn't exist - 17th century gunlocks may or may not have a dog type safety catch - it doesn't help to identify what type of lock it is, it's really just shorthand for an early-mid 17th century flintlock. Having said all that, it probably is worth covering a 'doglock' and explaining why it isn't one :)
@F1ghteR41
16 күн бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 Yes, I'm aware that this dog isn't the same as flintlock safety, I was just alluding to the heritage of the term. And a video on the seventeenth century flintlocks and their typology (and the 'doglock question' in particular) would be very welcome!
@jonathanferguson1211
12 күн бұрын
@@F1ghteR41 Yes, good idea :)
@F1ghteR41
12 күн бұрын
@@jonathanferguson1211 Thank you! 🙂
That end part...(the sound of your podcast) Fully get that. I tried to sit in a Mazda Miata at a car show years ago. When i got in, i saw the sales guy 10m away start into my direction with a smiile on his face. when i had the seat in the lowest position and still couldn't see anything but the windscreen frame right in front of my eyes, i noticed him turning around and walking away. He didn't even say a thing, just walked back to where he had been. I am not even very tall either, 187cm. But i got a long torso and short legs for my height. Had the same problem when i tried to sit in an Alfa 4C. no chance of even seeing the road. The Alpine A110 on the other hand (not sure they are evailable in the US) is made with tall people in mind.)
Fascinating information, keep up the great work!
If you are calling it a 'grip', then 'grip panels' or 'grip plates' makes more sense than stock plates. Especially since a stock is typically what you put into your shoulder to steady a firearm.
Brilliant👍
lol the *bling* for each term is great, I didn’t even notice it at first
Great work! There is as expression you said several times but you didn’t highlight as a a standard expression for revolvers, it is “clock work”
This is freakin great! My wife says I'm suffering from frame stretch, but I think that term is not clearly defined.
Your repeated use of “locked in” while covering the components of the lock work is delightfully appropriate, intentional pun or not. 😂
Excelente Othias, lo divertido es la traducción directa que hace Google al español😂😂
Professor Othias, will any of this be on the exam? 🤣 Love the lil dialogue at the end... and Hey, I'm 6'3" and I get it. I fit only so many vehicles, comfortably. I can't find any bicycle that fits my leg/arm length without going custom. But I can see over most, and lady, time for coloring! 😛
Did I miss nubbin as the terms were scrolling by?
There are “single action” revolvers. There are “double action” revolvers. But nowhere else except on this channel, did I hear about “triple action” revolvers.
Any chance of a booklet or printable of your sensible definitions ? (please 😁)
Now I need a short on just what the hammer does when its not firing . Rebound, manual rebound, hammer block, half cock, full cock. If I understand what Othias is saying if someone used to one family of guns picks up another , without some appropriate training, they will find the gun operating somewhere between erratic and dangerous , just from the hammer mechanism.
Finally, we can stop calling every other part a 'hand'.
sounds good. 👍
Let us go full revolver, lads! +][+
Q. Would you put the action of a Starr M1858 DA revolver in the same category as the Tranter you described at 27.40, as "an emulated double action", or closer to a "hesitation lock", like you talk about at 28.30?
28:48 "Pull the lever, Cronk!"
Missed a potential "Selective Extraction" on the Enfield revolver though that's pretty niche.
My vote is for puppet shaped guy. That's a great term!!
Are you going to cover the Merwin Hulbert revolver?
Good job, though I was always fine with the descriptor “this guy” and the subsequent explanation of what “the guy” did.
First I enjoyed this as well as your other videos. Question is the word or term " Nubin" one of your terminologies for just revolvers or is that a general term. Have a Great Day.
Call this the 18 wheeler episode, but there are clearly more!
I would think a revolver with a cocking lever or hesitation locks would be caked something like a "split action".
The more you know!
Bloody hell Othias! You need to pull the camera back a couple of feet to get them all in! Or get a panoramic camera. 😉
You _would_ be named something like Othias.
Do one on the mag fed revolver that had a flat cylinder and fired a round ejected it and when it revolution up to other chamber u have another round but i cant remember the name
the jingle for every term makes me feel like im watching revolver hypnosis indoctornation. Which is only partially untrue.
Would you classify the cross pin on open top Colts as a catch even though it does not release the arbor bit releases the barrel from the arbor?
Thank you Othias but I am old and forgetful, how about making and selling a poster with all of the newly correct nomenclature?
To review; I am a stroke survivor. ( lived) nothing goes to waste. All learning is recovery. The evolution of the colt 1911 was the most painful. Fascinating, but mine? Sold it! Thanks!
So Othias is a lexicographer. Can you get a passport from there? Perhaps S&W, Colt, and Ruger are watching. Reprint those parts list boys
13:22 I fundamentally disagree with calling that component a "nose" on the grounds that aside from elephants and maybe some insects which feature a trunk or proboscis, there is no nose on any animal in existence which is capable of pivoting on an axis. The word "strut" is immensely more applicable to this component, and I don't understand the aversion to it.
@restitvtororbis5330
19 күн бұрын
'Strut' is probably the most sensible word for it, however, I had no idea that the word 'proboscis' was an option until I saw this comment, and I am now fully in favor of using that term instead.
@alex7x57
19 күн бұрын
@@restitvtororbis5330 Oh, good gravy. What have I done? 🤦🏼♂️
@fusinfun
19 күн бұрын
regardless of how the name got there, it is reasonably well established and not used elsewhere -- there's minimal value to renaming. Since the hammer strut also refers to spring connection point in many common designs, it might introduce unnecessary ambiguity.
Can you mount a steampunk optic on the gasser?
Why did I assume the spelling of sprag was sprague?
Bell didnt ring on "nubin" 😊
Thingamajig or doohickey
Colt = Crane Smith = Yoke
I knew it! The Reichsrevolver broke him.
Hand Puppet, another technical term ;)
On this episode.. Othias discovers the wonders of Adderall 😂
Othias, write a book. Redefine revolver terminology, and expose the true evolution and development of revolver mechanisms and lock work. *Evil laugh, lightning and thunder*
18:26 I think you meant half-cock when you said 'only in the rebounded position does the cylinder rotate'
It's called the craw. The craw? No the craw.
Okay, so what the catch?
Maybe the real revolver was inside us all along