Do you prefer the use of St Edward’s Crown or the Tudor Crown in royal monograms? Let me know below and don't forget to SUBSCRIBE and check out my PATREON at www.patreon.com/historycalling

@lfgifu296

Жыл бұрын

I would say St Edward’s. Mainly because I adore Anglo Saxon monarchs and find them the most interesting dynasty to reaserch , and thus, every connection there is (though, sadly, a copy, I blame you, Oliver Cromwell) is deeply cherished by me. Anglo Saxon history is my soft spot :)

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I'll get to the Anglo-Saxons at some point, promise :-)

@jldisme

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the Tudor crown.

@lfgifu296

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Haha no need to promise- thou can make any topic appealing :) that being said, if it interests you, I’d be delighted! (Hope I’m not the only one though as you need to eat lol)

@ckallen1546

Жыл бұрын

Neither. Don’t the Scottish regalia (pre-1600) still exist? Couldn’t THOSE be loaned to England? And returned to Scotland after each coronation? They seem (at least) to better represent England’s turbulent growing pains (over the centuries).

In Chelsea - across the square and tennis courts from the Royal Hospital you can find a letterbox from the time of Queen Victoria - it's a period piece in good condition and used for mail now. It's been there forever - but I remember it from 30 years ago. It has a slightly different and rather charming appearance - I think the top of it has a different shape. So glad these markers of history remain - like a touchstone for us.

@rwboa22

Жыл бұрын

From what I read, there are letterboxes that still have Edward VIII's cypher ("E VIII R") on it, despite Edward abdicating within year's end. In Scotland, of course, they'll be able to affix "C III R" cyphers (under the Crown of Scotland instead of the Tudor Crown) on their letterboxes.

St Edward's crown is so symbolic and carries huge significance for the continuity of monarchy. The jewels it contains aren't as precious nor as flashy as the Imperial State Crown, but there is nothing wrong with topaz or aquamarines or spinels. The Black Prince's ruby is in fact, a spinel and totally amazing. Spinels are very similar to diamonds and are a good substitute. Pink spinels are very similar to pink diamonds, except in price and as pink diamonds are becoming rarer, a decent pink spinel can be very sought after. Personally, I think more is more! Given the chance, I would wear both as much as possible, at every opportunity. As for the cipher, I would go with St Edwards rather than the Tudor crown. We have been so lucky seeing our wonderful Queen wear so much jewellery over the years. Charles just won't be able to wear very much being a King. Camilla isn't entitled to wear certain pieces as she isn't the monarch.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I think it looks gorgeous too, even if it doesn't have the Black Prince's Ruby or one of the Cullinans. I think it makes more sense in fact for the crown which is worn so little to have fewer precious jewels in it. The Imperial State Crown is shown off more often (outside the jewel house I mean), so it makes sense to me that it has the really big guns when it comes to gemstones.

@adriancelestino266

Жыл бұрын

Is Camilla able to wear the George IV diadem arguably the most famous of all the late Queen’s jewels as its in money post

@elisabethhopson5639

Жыл бұрын

@@adriancelestino266 Yes, Camilla will be able to wear the diadem, unless Charles says no. There are photos of Queen Alexandra and Queen Mary both wearing the diadem, so I expect Camilla will be allowed to wear it.

@kah10161

Жыл бұрын

I’m fairly certain that Camilla will have use of the State Diadem; I don’t think any king has worn that since George IV, himself.

@astra-rb6sz

Жыл бұрын

@@kah10161 George 1V never actually wore it, Queen Victoria was the first to wear it.

By a very long distance, the best documentary I have ever seen on the subject of the Crown Jewels. Extremely well researched and beautifully presented. Many thanks indeed.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thank you! :-)

I was in London last weekend for the Giants game and I saw the Crown Jewels. My eyes melted with all that ice!! Like you, I'm all about the shiny, sparkling things :)

St. Edward's Crown is beautiful but looks better when it's being displayed by itself. When it's being worn, it actually looks a bit silly because of its disproportionate height. The Imperial State Crown works much better as actual headwear. I'd honestly never thought about royal cyphers before, but looking at them both, I think I prefer St. Edward's Crown. It looks more serious, whereas the Tudor Crown actually looks a bit cartoonish. I can't really support you on patreon because I'm already supporting other KZreadrs on there and as much as I want to support all of the KZreadrs I like, I just can't afford that. So please have a one-off donation.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU KATE for such a generous donation to the channel and please don't worry about Patreon at all or feel you have to explain. I'm very grateful for any support you choose to give and certainly don't expect anything. I'm also with you about preferring St Edward's Crown :-)

Very interesting video. I did not know that the stones were at one time “rentals”! Seems like a good idea to me. As to the preferred crown, it seems odd that with such tradition(s) as they favor, they would go back to the King Edward crown. No fuss, no muss, just gold and loads of history! Love the content and all your hard work.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Amy. Yes, rentals were a big deal for the post Restoration monarchs. They were always short of money :-)

@noelt2238

Жыл бұрын

Favour - it's the English version.

I’d love more documentaries of many different treasures and Crown Jewels. I’m studying ancient jewelry and artifacts and love the history

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

You might just get them :-) In the meantime, check out my 'Treasure' and 'Fashion and Jewellery' playlists

Great video ! Very interesting and well presented. I visited London some years ago and saw the Crown Jewels at the Tower. Amazing display and tour.

Thanks again HC for another interesting and informative video. So much to learn from what you pass on to us. Fun and enjoyable to listen to as well. Catch you next week for some more learning. 😉

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks James. Until next week! :-)

I love the videos that you make about the Crown jewels! They are always informative and well-researched

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Like I said in the vid, I have a soft spot for the shiny, pretty things :-)

@sandralantau7395

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling So do I 😁

@sandralantau7395

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling So do I!

It never dawned on me that jewels set into things like a crown would be removable, let alone rented! But it makes sense, especially if the piece isn’t used very often. I’ve also assumed that the lighter stones were diamonds. But if you’re hard-pressed for money, those would probably be the first precious stones to go! I’m not sure if I’m more crow or dragon, but I love all things shiny, especially when wearable! Great video, as always, and I look forward to next week!!

Beautifully done! Your facination with treasure benefits us. Not only is the history intriguing and surprising but the glorious photos are eye candy. Thanks once more for all you do. Lvya much

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much :-)

I'd love to see a treasure video about the caches of valuables people find in their houses and why they may have been hidden - I'm particularly thinking of the cup full of gold coins that was found in someone's house recently. (What a way to pay off a mortgage!)

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I wish I could find a treasure that was worth enough to let me buy a house!

@sarahwatts7152

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling I feel you in a very much millennial way...

I love your videos and the stories that accompany them. I have royalty on both sides of my family tree with the Wales royalty on my father’s side and the British monarchy on my mother’s side. Just goes to show that being the youngest child of the youngest child etc. of a king and queen doesn’t mean much especially with the fighting for the power of the crown in history. I’m just glad my ancestors were smart and walked (or sailed in this case) away to a new country.

Ah, Saint Edward the Confessor, now you're talking! 👏 As for the crown jewels aren't you overlooking the Musgrave Ritual by Arthur Conan Doyle a tad? 😉 Next time you see 10 Downing Street look at the arch in front of the door, then look atop it. This is symbolic, it shows the Prime Minister is the Crown's servant. I'll leave it to you in your down time to decide which crown it is. St. Edward's Crown for me, founder of Westminster Abbey and the inspiration for Henry III's rebuild and the naming of his eldest son. 👌

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

You know I just finished a video which has something to do with an Aetheling which I think you'll appreciate. It won't be out for a few weeks mind you, but you'll know it when you see it. I'll look at the front of no. 10 the next time it's on TV :-)

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Yes, please do, look at it. 🙂 Missed by many but so crucial like Larry the cat. You have to purposefully look for it or it is easy to miss. Framing the door there is a decorative black wrought-iron (?) arch and at the top - there it is in gold! 👑 (I know you like your 'bling') 😉. Thanks for your concern about us Æthelings, October is a bad month as you know when William came and displaced us, Catweazle and Hereward the Wake. 🤔

Isn't it interesting that Charles II designed the crown and now Charles III will wear it.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yup, everything comes full circle I guess :-)

@ianport2185

Жыл бұрын

But the King has chosen the heraldic Tudor Crown for the Royal Cypher.

@sarahwright4104

Жыл бұрын

@@ianport2185 that's his right to wear what he wants. I was just saying I liked the St Edward's.

I prefer the St Edward’s Crown because of Henry the 8th. My favorite stones are aquamarine, pearl and amethyst. I’m so glad Edward the 8th abdicated. He was too friendly to the Nazis. I’m looking forward to seeing King Charles’ coronation. Mainly because I haven’t seen one. Thank you. Have a great weekend.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm looking forward to it as well. Like you, I wasn't around for the last one. Have a lovely weekend too.

St Edward's Crown is magnificent and priceless. I remember watching a TV documentary with our late darling Queen, and she remarked how heavy it was to wear. In modern day terms, I tend to look on Cromwell as Michael Gove, no hope of ever being a political leader.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I've seen that same documentary. She wasn't especially gentle with the crowns which I found quite funny. I got the impression that she saw them as working objects that you couldn't be too afraid to touch. Also she knew she had a team of expert jewellers to fix them if anything went wrong :-)

@owlman_

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling That's what I loved about the documentary. She knew they weren't museum pieces to be held with 5-foot tongs, but "living" objects that still hold their function.

This discussion came up on a royalty discussion board. The crown in Charles II’s coronation portrait looks different than it does in current photographs. Allowing for the substitution of jewels, the arches are still incredibly larger in the portrait of Charles II than in contemporary photos. Was the crown re-fashioned to make the arches smaller?

Royal history is my thing!!

Wonderful video. I have seen replicas of the Crown Jewels many years ago at Newman Marcus. I love the imperial State crown because of the diamonds used , but mostly for the sapphire in the center.

I really like the fact the gems weren't permanent, kinda nice to know that even royalty rent gemstones :D

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Oh definitely. The royals have been short of money lots of times in the past.

Happy Friday, HC! Dropping a like before heading out to visit friends. Back for a complete view later. Like what I'm seeing as I write this!👏

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Stephen. Have a lovely time with your friends. :-)

Outstanding!!! Extremely interesting

I look forward to of all your vids. Awesome

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them and thanks again for the Superthanks donation. :-)

The St. Edward’s Crown is the ultimate crown. I’d guess anyone on Earth, even vaguely familiar with crowns, has an image in his head of this crown when the word crown is mentioned, even a person who has never seen so much as a photograph of it will have seen images of crowns directly inspired by the St. Edward’s Crown.

Well done and presented.

Hi history calling don’t know if you remember but I did ask if the axe man showed Anne Boleyn Cathrine Howard or Lady Jane Grey heads you might be surprised but Cathrine Howard’s Head was shown to the crowd not Anne Boleyn or Lady Jane Grey their head were never shown to the crowd

@mimsicle1

Жыл бұрын

Gruesome.

@lindadolan3395

Жыл бұрын

Anne Boleyn did not meet the axe man. She met the very best swordsman that France had to offer.

@aimeefriedman822

Жыл бұрын

Catherine Howard is the only one whose stories had any validity, at all. Although that means nothing but to Henry, himself. Her age alone, makes her innocent.

@raumaanking

Жыл бұрын

@@lindadolan3395 I know ooops

@raumaanking

Жыл бұрын

@@aimeefriedman822 I know so sad her death was more horrible then the other two but I think Lady Jane Grey was the saddest

Very interesting. Thank you for the research and presentation. I'd love to hear about The Stone of Scone.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I was going to do a video about that way back when, but when the video on the Scottish Crown Jewels did so poorly, I thought 'Hmm, maybe not'. :-(

@paulasalter1041

Жыл бұрын

There is some mystic to the Stone of Destiny that I thought perhaps would be intriguing to a lot of people. I don't think it's widely known like the jewels are. It was definitely unknown to me until I was reading a novel a few years ago... I don't remember the novel but I remembered the Stone.

@tessat338

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling I enjoyed that video!

@davidboult4143

Жыл бұрын

I remember reading, many years ago, that the stone came from the Holy land, and was Jacob's pillow.

@paulasalter1041

Жыл бұрын

@@davidboult4143yes there's much folk lore about the stone and it's history.

Thank you! Great job!

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Nathan. Hope you're well :-)

😃Very interesting, and I am looking forward to seeing the crown jewels in action at the forth comming corination 😃

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Me too :-)

Interesting! I didn't know about the crown or its jewels.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I didn't know very much about it myself actually, so it was fun learning about it.

Great video, I prefer St Edwards crown over the Tudor crown. I guess George the V didn't think that maybe there would be a George the VI. I loved that photo of Cromwell's death mask very interesting seeing the face of someone from back that far and it not being a painting. Look forward to next week.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, the death mask is interesting isn't it? I think I took that photo in the British Museum a few years ago. Those things are always a little spooky to look at. :-)

@oneilbuchanan8377

Жыл бұрын

I believe the tradition of death mask should be continued for Monarchs and other famous ppl

The maintance, cleaning and care of these artifacts!, has to be epic to say the least!

I love all the British crowns (though George I's crown looks a bit like a chef's hat imo). My favorite by far though is the defunct Tudor Crown. I saw that Historic Royal Palaces recreated it for exhibition at Hampton Court in 2012. The video is here on KZread. I wish the Crown commissioned a second version to be permanently added to the Crown Jewels set, though I very much doubt King Charles III would go for that since he's all for cutting costs in the new "slimmed down" monarchy.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I don't think we'll be seeing any new crowns any time soon either. As you say, I think the family are trying to be more cost effective.

St Edward's by far! Thanks - this is great 😎😎😎

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it :-)

Very interesting. Do you have anything on the jewels that King John lost? If not, do you plan to do a video? I realize it would be difficult as they're now under no one knows how much mud and silt. Thank you for all of your hard work.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I've considered that actually, but as you say, there's just so little evidence :-(

@redemptivepete

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry it'll all come out in the wash! (Sorry!!)

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

I remember reading an article about a dedicated metal-detectorist that recently has found some of them, near North Walsham(?). If King Richard III was found then who knows. 😊

@johnslaughter5475

Жыл бұрын

@@redemptivepete 😂😂

@Wosiewose

Жыл бұрын

@@English_Dawn Ooh, tell us more!!

Interesting. I didn’t think it was that different 😁

Anne Boleyn being crowned with the crown of kings! Only a thing she could do!

The "bonnet" in the center is called the Cap of Estate, and is replaced frequently, because the fabric deteriorates.

what a treasure 👑 so much history and beauty!

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, we're lucky to have it. The jewels are always worth a visit when at the Tower.

@ns-wz1mx

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling one day i’ll conquer my fear of planes and it will be at the top of my list 🤣🙌🏻

Thank you.

Thanks!

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR VERY KIND DONATION TO THE CHANNEL. I hope you enjoyed hearing about the coronation crown (and will enjoy seeing it in action in May).

"Hi history lovers." Hi History Calling! I'll watch this now, I need a relaxing voice for awhile.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Enjoy. :-)

@Moebian73

Жыл бұрын

Purple's my fav color so I'm biased when I say I like that color on the crown better. :) Looking at Cromwell's death mask was fascinating. I've looked at a number of them on the internet. If I wanted a crown made I'd switch the gold to silver, change the purple area to black & have purple and dark red shiny things all over it. Looking at Cromwell's death mask was fascinating. I've looked at a number of them on the internet. Quite creepy but fascinating at the same time.

Good evening to history calling

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Hi Bea :-)

Me too! I swear I’m part crow! If it shimmer’s, shines, sparkles or anything flashy I want it!

I really hope the jewelleries who hired out the jewels in the crown was called "Rent-a-rock" 😄

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

He wasn't, but I LOVE that name. It made me smile. There's surely gotta be a modern jeweller out there somewhere called that???

13,000 pounds in 1660 omg - an insanely beautiful crown though - ty again

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I know. It's best not to think about how much money that would be nowadays.

@FandersonUfo

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling - makes my head spin - loving the monarchy vids lately - ty - 🛸

Wow! There is a lot of stuff here that I had _no_ idea about. No diamonds, rented gem stones etc. It's kind of difficult to look reverently at an object that hasn't had the same stones mounted in it during it's entire existence. And, if I remember right from the documentary about the coronation, the arches were shortened for Elizabeth, compared to when it was used for her father. I've always thought that the Imperial State Crown was much more impressive than St. Edward's Crown. The lack of diamonds would explain that. I have no preference on the monogram.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if the arches were altered. They do look different now compared to the picture of Charles II for instance. I didn't read anything specifically about that in my research though, which is why I didn't mention it.

Always a pleasure to see new content. Question How was the recently deceased Queen interned? Is it a chamber? No digging involved? Thank you

@Ater_Draco

Жыл бұрын

No digging. It's a crypt

@woodenbeast9337

Жыл бұрын

@@Ater_Draco Thank you!!! Halloween is coming any cool Spooky stories?

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

A crypt I believe. No, I don't think there was any digging. Prince Philip's remains were able to be easily moved to join hers for instance.

@davidboult4143

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling it's called a vault. Looks like a Chapel, but with shelves. Traditional for monarchs. Check out the Hapsburgs vault in Vienna. Amazing place, very light and airy, with incredible sarcophagus inside. At the Capuchin Monastery, guarded by monks. Open to the public.

Thanks for adding actual captions for the Deaf

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

No problem. I use my scripts for them so they should match perfectly what I'm saying, but please excuse any little typos or deviations you catch. I don't have much time for proofreading I'm afraid. :-)

Would Mary and Phillip be considered a duel monarchy? Great video btw!

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Philip was a King in his own right and Mary had him called the King of England I believe, however the actual power of the monarch rested with her. When she died he had no further control over England. In William and Mary's case, it was truly joint because no matter which of them died first, the other could continue on as sole monarch.

I found it interesting that the crown in the Charles II portrait is different than the original. I guess that is because the artist didn't really see it on the King for the painting but it could just be foreshortening. I like both designs. But are there any stones with an interesting history.? The idea that the state doesn't have an ancient crown because of the Civil War is an interesting twist . Perhaps they should have some symbolic way that UK members can donate jewels to commemorate the unity of the UK ?... or maybe thats been done. This all made me think of the Stone of Scone .

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

No, no super famous stones in this one that I'm aware of. :-( The Imperial State Crown is better for that.

It would be interesting to know why King Charles ll pardoned blood. Possibly Blood was able to provide the monarch with some intel, Charles ll had a fairly extensive spy force.

@rwboa22

Жыл бұрын

Most likely intel for starters, after that.... definitely women of the evening.

Plz do use footnotes of ur commentary as English is my 2nd language, thnx frm Aamir Oman 🇴🇲

Charles II is synonymous with horse racing and Newmarket. I like to think Colonel Blood being of Irish extraction gave Charles some "good things" (tips). 😁

Yeah still waiting on that trip at vacation trip so waiting on that crown

All Crowns shall Now be returned to their original Owners - and so it is - Blessings.

I descend from Elizabeth Bassano (daughter of Lodovico Bassano and Alice Austen) married to Albianus Lupo (son of Peter Lupo and Katherine). Their families were court instrument makers and musicians from the Doge if Venice to King Henry VIII, King Edward, Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth 1st and King James. The couple came to Jamestown Colony of early 1609-1617. Do you have any information on them?

The cypher crown for EVIIIR at 11:40 is a Tudor crown.

Photo @ 10:04 that is supposed to be King George V and Queen Mary is actually of his mother and father with George and Mary's faces added (pretty badly) later.

This was the first time I saw what Charles III’s monogram is going to look like. I was actually very curious as to what it was going to be, as during the initial days after the Queen’s death, the only clues given were from pictures of a tiny tie pin Charles was wearing that was in the shape of his monogram. Now that I’ve actually seen it, I was taken aback by how strikingly similar it is to the symbol used in America to identify schedule three controlled substance drugs. It’s literally a large ‘C’ with the Roman numeral III contained within it. Thankfully, Charles will have no need of such things, given his emphatic espousal of homeopathy. But that’s another sordid story for another day…

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Oh wow, I didn't know about the similarities to the symbol for controlled substances. I'm guessing that fact wasn't noticed when the royal monogram was being designed :-)

@Wosiewose

Жыл бұрын

I must admit that the first time I saw it, it reminded me strongly of the team logo of the Colorado Rockies baseball team! :D

@neilwick5219

Жыл бұрын

Prince Andrew and Prince Edward have been seen wearing that George VI tie pin in the past.

I don't have a particular preference for the crown used in royal cyphers, but I am a big fan of gorgeous gemstones (used to do some lapidary work and jewelry making as a hobby) and so this week's presentation was definitely one of my favorites. It was a treat to see the Queen's diamonds on display at Buckingham Palace when we visited in 2011. I love the huge ruby that was somehow acquired by the Black Prince and is now in the Imperial State Crown which, when it comes to impressive glittery stuff, pretty much takes the prize. It is unfortunate that the potentates who "gave" these priceless gems to English royalty probably didn't have a whole lot of choice about the matter. I venture to say that some of those fabulous objects should probably be given back to their countries of origin in order to bolster up their local currencies, now that Britannia no longer rules the world.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, gorgeous stones are so pretty to look at. I love them too. Some stones are of questionable provenance of course, but a lot of them were genuine (albeit wildly extravagant) gifts.

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

That ruby apparently was given to Edward the Black Prince by Pedro the Cruel. In the M.A. boy did you have to be cruel to earn a tag like that!

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

I venture to say that probably more has been given back to countries in aid than the value of gems.

@annmoore6678

Жыл бұрын

@@English_Dawn You're right! Especially since Edward the Black Prince was no slouch when it came to brutality.

@pamburt

Жыл бұрын

I’m getting a bit weary of the trope about everything in the Crown Jewels being stolen or acquired by dishonest means. Many of the most famous stones were acquired hundreds of years ago. Where’s the hard evidence that these weren’t gifts received in good faith? Then as now, if another head of state gives you a gift, then it would be an huge insult to that country to refuse it, if it’s simply on the grounds that you suspected it’s provenance wasn’t pukka. I wish people would stop trying to change history. These stones belong to us, possession is 9/10ths of the law and they’ve been part of the Crown Jewels for hundreds of years. Who’s to say who they could be returned to anyway, the original owners being long dead? Enough, they’re here and this is where they’ll stay!

Hello HC. The little kitten in which I named after you is doing good. You are his aunt.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Aww, thank you. I'm glad to hear he's doing well.

Thank you HC, very interesting we all know your a girl that loves her Ruby's and sapphires and other stones lol, I would have to say the Tudor crown,

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Simon and yes, I definitely do (though of course diamonds are a girl's best friend) 😆

@simon112

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling yes indeed diamonds are a girls best friends, thank you HC have a great week.

Thank you for an excellent synopsis. The St. Edward's Crown for me thanks. To hell with the Tudors. Henry VII and his son did enough damage to the Monarchy.

In your opinion history calling who is the best singer Whitney Houston Mariah Carey or Celine Dion and who music do you listen to out of them 3 artists in your opinion thanks

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Erm, that kinda came out of nowhere :-) Honestly, I don't have an opinion as to which one of them technically has/had the best voice and I'm only familiar with a few of their songs and don't listen to any of them on a regular basis. I always enjoy Mariah's 'All I want for Christmas is You' however.

your voice is very pleasant but please have the volume higher as it is difficult to hear each word clearly because you speak rather fast.. Thank you. God bless

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry to read you're having issues with the sound. I can't really boost it any further on my end without degrading the quality of the audio track (making it a bit tinny sounding). Have you tried turning up the volume both on the video within KZread and on your actual device? I hope these tips help. PS The subtitles should help too, as I use my scripts to create them, so they match my words properly rather than being auto-generated by KZread (which often can't understand my accent!) :-)

For all that I am a passionate student of history, I find myself torn on all the upcoming pomp and circumstance surrounding King Charles III's coronation ceremony (pomp which will inevitably mean vast amounts of money spent). All of this, without going into my lingering issues surrounding the concept of hereditary privilege. I've often thought that such expenditures might be a little more palatable if the money spent were matched with pound-for-pound donations made to various charitable foundations. Just a thought.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I understand what you mean, but I think it's worth bearing in mind too that these big events generate a lot of money as well, especially in tourism. I suspect Charles will go for a (relatively) low key event, at least as low key as something like this can be. I would imagine the main costs are actually to do with security, After all, they already have the Abbey, the throne, the jewels and the carriages ready to go :-)

@katjack2780

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling I've been reading that Charles intends a smaller, more-scaled back ceremony, "“more representative of different community groups and faiths." And now he evidently is considering telling the Commonwealth leaders that they needn't attend -- aware of the carbon footprint and all that. He must have taken a remark that someone made to him when he was greeting the crowds about how the people were suffering financial hardship. "King Charles plans to have a slimmed-down coronation ceremony as he wishes to avoid extravagance while ordinary people struggle with the cost of living crisis, it has been reported." I love the codename they've come up with for the coronation: "Operation Golden Orb."

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

It gives people a bit of glitter in their lives, as HC says they already have the jewels and the costs will probably be staffing, armed forces, Archbishops etc. The republic's just don't do "ceremony". Just doesn't look convincing. The Scottish Parliament, looks like they got a job lot of furniture from IKEA!

@Seb_Snufflepuss

Жыл бұрын

Yours is the wettest comment I have ever seen.

I didn't see you mention the KOHINOOR

It almost feels wrong for anyone to use St. Edward's crown now as it feels almost like a physical part of her late majesty as she is the only queen of the United Kingdoms so many of us in the world have known

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I know what you mean, but I guess we have to remember that that crown was around long before her and will be around long after. For a long time Queen Victoria was the only one who had used the Imperial State Crown, but think of the cost of constantly replacing them if we were too sentimental about who'd worn them before. I think part of what makes them special is that so many monarchs do wear them and will continue to do so. It provides a nice sense of continuity.

@francespyne7316

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling perhaps after King Charles it can come back into "rotation " wonder if that was part of his thought to not use it as maybe alternating keeps continuity while allowing someone sense of individuality

@ds1868

Жыл бұрын

St Edward's Crown was not a 'physical part' of Her Late Majesty. She only wore it once, at the moment of coronation, and hardly saw it again.

@Seb_Snufflepuss

Жыл бұрын

Ridiculous comment.

I think everyone has what I call "inner magpie" which just makes us all go "ooh, shiny" when we see stuff like the crown jewels. I imagine it can't have been good for the egos of the monarchs until 1911 who had to rent the jewels for their coronations instead of just having them on hand whenever they wanted. Oliver Cromwell strikes again in being the worst in a historical context. I can't even imagine the value of having an item like the original St Edward's crown if it was actually as old as it supposedly was.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not too keen on Cromwell either for a whole host of reasons. In this instance, it's because he was a total cultural vandal. The original jewels belonged to the whole country in my view and shouldn't have been destroyed.

10:05 what is this? It is an edited image I think. The real image is of Queen Alexandra and King Edward VII

@-B-SaswataRoychoudhuryRKMV

Жыл бұрын

looked so awkward

Do you have any personal theories as to why Thomas Blood was pardoned? Did he, perhaps, have kompromat?

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Maybe. It certainly seems like he had something on Charles. I don't have any particular theories myself though.

Not sure which I prefer, but it I were the monarch I would always want the lighter one!

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Me too. We always hear stories of the headaches the heavy crowns cause (never mind the metaphorical headaches of course!)

@michaelmontagu3979

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling The weight is the reason why no Sovereign was crowned with it between William III in 1689 and George V in 1911.

I prefer a direct election.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Fair enough :-)

Would you ever make a video on a list of Henry the 8 six wives from least favourite to favourite infact in your opinion in his top 6 wives who do you think was his least favourite from his death bed and his favourite at the end of his life thanks

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Maybe :-)

@lfgifu296

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Oh yes!! I love to hear your opinion on them! (though you might like to start with a little teaser, simply commenting your favourite and least favourite, to then, when you have time, make a video- I am now fixated on knowing lol).

@raumaanking

Жыл бұрын

@@lfgifu296 what do you think in your opinion

@lfgifu296

Жыл бұрын

@@raumaanking from favourite to least favourite: Kathryn of Aragon Kathryn Parr Anne of Cleves Jane Seymour Kathryn Howard Anne Boleyn What about you?

@raumaanking

Жыл бұрын

@@lfgifu296 I would have said least Cathrine Howard, Anne Boleyn, Catherine of Aragon, Anne of cleves, Cathrine Parr and Jane Seymour the favourite can I ask another question

Tak!

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU SO MUCH MIEDK for you generosity. I hope you enjoyed hearing about the coronation crown and got the chance to see it in use at the coronation on Saturday.

@miedk9871

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Thank you for the great videoes. I did see the coronation, it was amazing, so many Beautiful crowns, tiaras and jewels.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I loved Catherine and Charlotte's headgear.

@miedk9871

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling so did I, they were beautifull.

Ido enjoy your video

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bea :-)

The basis to say that Charles II's time period had a red lining is a painting and may not be reliable to prove the fact as there are many, many instances of artists using artistic license to modify colors for their paintings. What would a "splotch" of purple look like in that very predominantly red painting? I would have to see reliable documentary evidence before I believe it was ever red.

Didn’t Sir Thomas Fairfax lead the Parliamentary army? I always thought the crowns swapped each monarch, honestly. I do rather like the Tudor one, though that may just be as I’m so very used to it,

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Oh, I'd need to check that. I don't actually know a whole lot about the Civil War and Interregnum.

@Bus_Driver_Jay

Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling sorry! I didn't mean to sound rude there. I was curious. Just checked. Yes. Sorry. It was Sir Thomas Fairfax.

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Not all were destroyed by parliament, Henry III was crowed using a carolla owned by his mother. The crown of England disappeared during the civil war, or was lost in the Wash with the rest of his fathers treasure

Since the Tudor crown no longer exists and the Tudors still fascinate today, I wonder if they choose to use it to make themselves out to be similarly mythical figures.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Yes, a strong connection to the Tudors might be one reason to use that crown. The current family are descended from Henry VII via Princess Margaret Tudor after all and hold the throne because he won it in 1485.

This is insight in to the stone of destiny the stone that is under the throne that royalty sit on during the coronation see rich planet utube the stone of destiny

I really don’t a preference and believe it should be up to the Monarch who will need to wear it to decide.

Why does the sound keep coming and going

I associate the Tudor crown with Henry VIII. Think I prefer St. Edwards crown much more

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7:16 You are confusing the Imperial State Crown made for Charles II and adapted for James I with the St Edward's Crown. The Imperial State Crown had been "upgraded" with the fake Aquamarine monde (which still exists and now adorns the carcass of the Imperial State Crown made for George I). St Edward's Crown substantially remained as is was except that it was permanently set with (semi-)precious stones only for the 1911 coronation of George V.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Oops, you're correct. I was researching them both at the same time and imagine that's where the error crept in. I've now fixed it by removing that little piece of video. Thanks for the catch.

I doubt that picture of George VI and Queen Elizabeth was taken in Canada as the Imperial State Crown and all of the crown jewels cannot leave English shores.

@noelt2238

Жыл бұрын

Like all Royal visits, I suspect the photo was taken in the UK in preparation.

Shiney play things, ah a girl's best friend. Most girls have something in the drawer. Whether it be silver, gold, platinum or diamonds. Would you have any idea as to how many crown are held today. Or which would be the most famous tiara?

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I don't know sadly, but it's a fascinating question :-)

Why would Charles III use the Tudor crown for his monogram? I know he's not directly related to Henry VIII, but is he related in any way to the Tudors? Or is it just an aesthetic thing?

@robertstallard7836

Жыл бұрын

Following Victoria, the run of Georges and Edwards all used the same crown (commonly known as the Imperial Crown or King's crown by historians and collectors). You see it mostly on the badges and buttions used on military uniforms during the World Wars. It was QEII who broke with that by using the St Edward's Crown (commonly known as the Queen's Crown). Charles is returning to the "King's Crown" that the preceding male monarchs used.

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Just adding to Robert's comment; Charles III is a direct descendant of Henry VII and Princess Margaret Tudor, Queen of Scotland.

@persephone767

Жыл бұрын

See? This is why I love this channel - you learn something new every day!

@Seb_Snufflepuss

Жыл бұрын

@@persephone767 Charles is related to all the previous monarchs. It’s the way this royalty thing works.

Though unlikely, I hope the royal family eventually reveals why Blood was pardoned. If I were Edwards/his family I would want justice against the man who lied to me/tried to kill me/tried to steal the royal jewels. Seems preposterous to pardon Blood after such a heinous, premeditated act, which makes me think maybe he had some blackmail on the royal family or something to prevent being punished. Any theories anyone?

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

Charles II is synonymous with horse racing and Newmarket. I like to think Colonel Blood being of Irish extraction gave Charles some "good things" (tips). 😉

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

It's a fascinating historical mystery but I don't think the current royals have any idea why it happened, nor does anyone else. It wouldn't surprise me if there was some sort of blackmail going on though, but I don't think we'll ever know.

I like it with the pearls better

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

I must admit, I do too, even if they were only fakes.

XOXO!

I thought the Crown Jewels including St Edwards crown were all lost by King John in The Wash…

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

They were, but they've been replaced a couple of times since then. I don't know off the top of my head if the 1st St Edward's Crown existed yet at that point though.

I have two question: if Mary wanted A Catholic heir why didn't she name Mary Stuart as her heir ? And the second question: do you think if Mary's first husband would have survived and had produced children by her England and french would become one country ?

@HistoryCalling

Жыл бұрын

Mary Stuart was Catholic, but she was also the Queen of France and Mary Tudor was pro-Spain. If Mary Stuart and King Francis had had children, it's not inconceivable that they might eventually have inherited the Crown of England, but they would have been Catholic and that would have been so unpopular with the Protestant English after Elizabeth's death, that I wonder if Lady Katherine Grey's descendants might not have found themselves called upon the take the throne.

just another priceless bauble the sale of which could pay along with others for the UK's national debt, instead it is kept for the prime use of the pantomime of monarchy.