HINTS & TIPS #7 BMW R1250GS Hill Start Control Explained 🤔
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Hill Start Control explained on the BMW R1250GS. Mine is a 2022 model, as always refer to your owners manual, as things may differ slightly , depending on model year🙈
The system works not only on an incline, but on a level or declined surface. Give it a go!
00:00 Introduction.
00:45 What is HSC?
03:01 How do we turn the system on?
03:28 How do we activate HSC?
06:22 How do we de-activate HSC?
09:00 Let's see HSC in use on the road.
13:56 Finally......
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Definitely needs practice in starting on steep hills. The amount of gas needed on a steep incline is noticeably greater. I didn’t realize this and stalled when taking off, which deactivated the HSC and introduced a significant jolt. Almost dropped the bike before I collected my wits and grabbed the brake!
Thanks for taking the time to explain how this works. Clear and easy to understand.
Good vlog , love the two land sharks !!
Very well done explanation clip. I appreciate the time you've taken to produce this. Keep up the good work!
@gsd32i
11 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
Great refresher Paul, I use HSC all the time when loaded up, I have the pro- set up but avoid auto at all cost, to easy to miss it engaging, followed by it stalling. Your absolutely right in say get out and practice - ✈️👍
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I use manual if I am going to use it. I guess the proper off roaders might use auto but going into my garage is about as off road as I can manage!!!!!! 😂
Awesome videos explaining all the features of the GS. I had something happen when HSC was engaged. Sitting at a stop sign on an incline with HSC engaged, I blipped the throttle, and HSC deactivated. I’ll have to experiment more with this.
@xjr13john
Жыл бұрын
Read the manual, HSC disengages at 2000rpm!
I for one am eternally grateful that you can be bothered to make these videos as is negates the need for me to delve nose deep into the owners' manual or to experiment clad in a would-be blindfold on my rides out to discover what the hell is going on - thanks, it means a lot...to not only me, but countless others too.
@gsd32i
28 күн бұрын
Thank you , appreciate the kind words.
Great Hints 👍
Thanks for vid - very helpful indeed. Need to get the same confidence with the flipping quick-shifter next and rev ranges!!
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
That may be another video!
Another great informative guide for us,thanks for your videos
@gsd32i
2 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
Thanks for clear and fluent explanation.
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
great explanation I thought I knew about the hill hold but yes I learnt more again thank you
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
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As usual very helpful Video content
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment 👍👍
Awesome, learn something new, appreciate your help!
@gsd32i
4 күн бұрын
Glad to help!
Another great video explained very clearly, thank you. p.s Gorgeous German Shepherds! Paul
@gsd32i
4 ай бұрын
Many thanks!
Thank you so much, useful content !
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
👍
One more great blog mate and so handy to see an owners review as having to come off a zzr1400 because of bad hip pain when riding or sitting on board On to a gs I hope but like a kid in the sweet shop with all the colours and extras on used before getting a new gs1300 maybe later
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Best of luck with whatever one you get . Really enjoying mine 👍👍
Great video, very informative. One key element not mentioned is that if you activate HSC at a traffic light and then let off the brake to fix your gloves or something, your brake light goes out and your only showing running lights to the cars behind you. This was disappointing to me. I wish the brake lights would stay bright.
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input , the jury in my mind is out on BMWs multifunction rear lights .
@advoregon
Жыл бұрын
@@gsd32i Yes, I’ve heard a lot of that too. I’m in the US and they’re just traditional functioning, even on the newer models (21-23). We didn’t get the brake light functions in the turn signals. Same nice led and shape, but no multi function. I tend to use HSC at traffic lights and I just wish the back would stay bright.
leaving my driveway and stopped. The damn HSC came on, I couldn't figure what hell was going on. Really glad I wasn't stuck in traffic somewhere. Turned the stupid system off for good.
@gsd32i
7 ай бұрын
I like it , but I have it in manual mode and had no issues …. So far 🤞
I’m enjoying the series. My brand new GS arrives this week and so I’m getting lots of information before I get to play. Cheers
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Thanks . Try not to spend too much time looking at accessories !!! 🤣
@ianfreshwater5528
Жыл бұрын
@@gsd32i Too late, I’ve already compiled my wish list! I fear the money I saved from getting the bike in the BMW EOFY sale won’t be remaining in my account very long 😀
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
@@ianfreshwater5528 brilliant 😂
Awesome video! I found it very useful. I keep the HSC in auto. Which do you use? I may have to experiment. Loved the dogs. Always a good prop! Geez they are beautiful! Best!
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Yes they are fab. Off to France in our motorhome in a few days with them. Manual mode for me, for my road riding .👍
Excellent explanation 👍 and nice to see your hairy assistants 😎
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
😂 they were very good and didn't utter a peep!
Very informative as always Paul! May I ask which handlebar clamp you are using for your camera? I'm assuming it doesn't mark the paint? Cheers, M.
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Thanks . It’s the go pro one but I put some foam backed tape on it to stop precisely that happening 👍
I just use it as a hold on a hill and then disengage and use the back brake before taking off as on any bike.... Using this on a regular basis will wear out your clutch pre maturely due to higher revs required before the system releases the brake...
Hey I noticed you have a Garmin connection which is fitted to a bracket can you please let me where you got that bracket from thanks very much great videos 👍
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
from e bay seller uk marmac 1353 Garmin Zumo XT Bar Mount | 12mm £18
Thanks for an excellent video. HSC. Another skill set that for some, could be relegated to history.
@gsd32i
11 ай бұрын
You bet, use mine in manual mode an awful lot, especially with a pillion.
great video sir! i will be turning this feature off! i almost dropped the bike while turning on a incline when i first got the bike! 😮don’t need it
@gsd32i
4 ай бұрын
I use mine all the time...but in manual mode😂
It works facing down hill as well
Great Vid. How do I know when my ABS is on or off. The manual is very confusing. All the best, Paul
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
You can't switch ABS off, certainly not on my model, June 2022. Basically enduro pro will deactivate the rear abs for skidding around bends, but front abs still functions. If the ABS light comes on the dash after you ride away then the abs is faulty....but that's on my '22 model. The newer GS's have now done away with the " ABS" on the left control cluster. Have a look at my handy tips video number 6, it explains all the modes....🙈
@paulellis8414
Жыл бұрын
@@gsd32i cheers for the info. I thought I had turned mine off by accident. Take care and thanks 😊
I am sure I saw or read somewhere that the HSC warning light will flash when sufficient Rev’s are on to disengage the HSC control, or did I dream that 😊I should add that my 2020GS has never flashed, but I am sure I saw a YT Video where that was the case
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Nothing in my manual about that, not in the engineering details or warning/symbols section......but I am definitely no expert🙈
HSC also works in downhill. I set HSC always at automatic.
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Thanks , strange the manual doesn’t mention that , but I did put it in the description . 👍
Hello, I apologize for the interruption, my name is Andrey and I would like to know in "Road" riding mode, is it possible to set the D.T.C Traction Control to maximum grip mode? I apologize for the question and my lack of knowledge and I would be very happy to receive your help on the subject, thank you very much Andrey
@gsd32i
4 ай бұрын
hi. Road, Rain, Eco mode are all non adjustable and have set responses programmed by the BMW technicians . Rain mode DTC will activate earlier than in road mode. Road gives you the optimal control and traction on dry roads. No wheelies are permitted in those modes. The Pro , ie programmable modes , allow adjustments to suit individual riders preferences. if you want maximum performance without working out the various different options , stick it in dynamic mode for maximum performance from the DTC , allowing slight wheelies. Hope that helps 👍
@user-pr8ce4lr4j
4 ай бұрын
@@gsd32i Dear sir I asked so many riders and only you really helped me I want to thank you for the answer
@gsd32i
4 ай бұрын
@@user-pr8ce4lr4j Hi . Glad I was able to help . Ride safe 👍
I am reading around HSC Pro - is there any difference b/w HSC and HSC Pro (if it does exist)?
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Hi, hill start pro, or programmable ,simply means that you have several options for the hill start, off, manual-where you apply the front brake to turn it on(I use this all the time)or auto-where the bike senses the angle and applies the hill hold function automatically . 👍
@mohammedghaddar166
Жыл бұрын
@@gsd32i thank you
Is it standard to all the 1250GSA?
@gsd32i
11 ай бұрын
not sure, you’ll have to check on the bmw website for your country as models specifications may differ.👍
One tip. And this is a great visual example. Do not fit a screen protector. It's completely unnecessary. And destroys the reflection/glare. Look at the reflection 😅
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
TBH I have got use to it and the screen remains cleaner than the Matt finish of the tft and screen wil be scratch free at resale . Never an issue unless you point a camera at it and put it on KZread 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@onahi2002
Жыл бұрын
@GSD321 it's glass. And not touch screen, so no need to touch it. One of my bikes is a 2018 GSA with TFT. no marks on it at all. The anti glare finish is one of the great bonuses with the TFT, ruined by adding a TFT protector.
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
@@onahi2002 Thanks for posting , choices choices 🙈. 👍👍
I’ve been riding motorcycles for 20 years. Over 10 of those I raced at a competitive level. Two Harley’s and a R1250GS. Never laid one over, until today. The HSC caused my bike to tip over when I took off. I’ve had it for 2 years and it’s always been off. I turned it on last week just to see what it was like. Well my conclusion is that it’s absolute garbage. The engineers should have designed it to disengage upon slight release of the clutch. This is the most embarrassing feature of the bike. And it’s not close. Extremely disappointing.
@gsd32i
9 ай бұрын
Ouch, hope all was ok with you and the bike. Was out on mine today with no HS issues, I find it pretty good. Although I have had to rev it a bit on a steeper incline etc .Thanks for posting.👍
Hill starts can be hard but to put this on a bike is a massive waste of time, this is something for new riders on L plats.
@gsd32i
Жыл бұрын
Each to their own , personally I find it a useful tool to have in the armoury 🤪. Appreciate the input and ride safe 👍
@StephanLAS
6 ай бұрын
I actually find it quite useful for example if you want to stop to take a photo, you put on the hill start and then you can look for your camera take your picture while balancing the bike with your feet and you don't have to worry about Slip Sliding down or up the hill
I have just purchased an R1250R that has this abomination of a system. Reading the manual was of little help as it is totally confusing. Your demo cleared up some of my queries but sadly, you appear to have glossed over certain aspects, most likely because you don’t fully understand it either. For example, what the hell is this nonsense about rolling backwards at a speed of 1-2kph set by the bike after deactivation? What on earth does that mean ? If the system isn’t active and you’re on an incline, the bike is free to roll back at any speed dictated by the incline and gravity and so where does 1-2kph come in. Likewise, what is this about the system applying the brakes going downhill at less than 1-2Kph. It doesn’t say that in the manual. This silly and unnecessary system will cause riders to drop their bikes - be in no doubt. I will be switching it off and leaving it well and truly off!!!!!
@gsd32i
Ай бұрын
Appreciate the input . Personally I don’t use automatic hill hold and only use manual hold, which I haven’t had an issue with . Yes manuals can be a bit confusing . I suspect even the bmw sales folk wouldn’t have an in depth knowledge of the systems technical functionality , give manual a go .
@ybliga
Ай бұрын
@@gsd32i apologies for the verbosity of my post . . . I was feeling exasperated after having read the manual through. I suspect it has lost some of its meaning through imprecise translation from German. I have come across complaints from riders whose bike applied the brake when going downhill at very low speed and caused them to lose balance and drop the bike. I suspect you're right - set to manual, it is likely to be less of an issue but I did read about one chap whose RT wouldn't release the brakes at all and he had to have it unceremoniously shipped to the dealers. Not good . . . .
@gsd32i
Ай бұрын
@@ybliga No problem , good to let off steam 😁 No issues with manual mode in 2 years of ownership. I did see one video of the brakes locking on and then after a while the rider simply switched the bike off and then back on again and all was well. Ride safe 😁