Herman Li, Tosin Abasi, Tim Henson - Through the Fire and Flames Live (Razer Con Part 4/4)
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DragonForce guitarist @Herman Li and bass player Alicia Vigil (@Vigil Of War) with special guest @Tosin Abasi from Animals As Leaders and @Tim Henson from Polyphia, performed DragonForce Through the Fire and Flames live at Razer Con 2020! Part 4 of 4 with Twitch chat.
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He's so legendary that his hair flows in the wind even when he's inside
@luisch8660
3 жыл бұрын
ikr
@fraserwest1168
3 жыл бұрын
Yo wait w a i t w a i t WTF??!!!? How!!!?
@margaretthadison9981
3 жыл бұрын
Well......that's obvious. ....😐
@mochizukisenpai6682
3 жыл бұрын
Damn 😲😲
@mochizukisenpai6682
3 жыл бұрын
@Gary Couch that means basically the bassist isn't a legend lol
I love how Tosin and Tim are like the two grown-ups at a kid's birthday party and Herman is the excited 11 year old.
@raynman6466
2 жыл бұрын
You mean Tim's like the kid that thinks he's too cool to have fun🤣
@musicman3351
2 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic cause he’s older than both of them i think
@quantumxfluxmd6821
2 жыл бұрын
@rayn man I know what you mean but I don't think that's what Tim is trying to do. He's just a real shy person, and I'm sure he loves Herman , and ik him and tosin are friends. It probably makes him judge himself if he tries to be outspoken or incredibly outgoing it's just not his personality and that's ok. Herman has his personality thats ok too. Tim has his moments where he goes wild with his close friend group too.
@Juan2Steezy
2 жыл бұрын
@@raynman6466 unfunny
@carcher4525
2 жыл бұрын
@@musicman3351 yeah Herman is late 30s even I’m older than Tim is but he’s lightyears ahead of me guitar wise
Herman Li looks like he's permanently playing guitar in high winds on the top of a mountain overlooking a stormy sea with raging waters and sea monsters and thunder and lightning. Legendary guitarist and human being.
@pete5516
Жыл бұрын
The man’s whole life is a music video, saves them a hell of a lot of money when they can just film him anywhere and it’s this cinematic
@thetruthgodcountry5052
Жыл бұрын
He isn't?
@snowmankillz713
Жыл бұрын
Can picture this perfectly 😂
@soccreyes4647
Жыл бұрын
@@snowmankillz713 Just Imagine Slash, but 300 times faster or something. 😅
@rickyadjiseptianto972
Жыл бұрын
Bahahahahhaa😭😭
I have the greatest respect for Herman still doing his stage moves like he's standing in front of thousands of people while playing very loudly in his living room.
@justanothertrucker7856
2 жыл бұрын
this description is perfect "playing loudly in his living room" 😂
@456yukon
Жыл бұрын
well he WAS standing in front of millions of people so
@henrychandra3152
Жыл бұрын
he missed the knee tho
@brainrich1358
Жыл бұрын
What musicians hasn't done that in front of a mirror lol
@zybellion
Жыл бұрын
Thousands? No, he's playing for billions!
Mom that weird Asian kid is having a concert in his house again
@keegantoresdahl2025
3 жыл бұрын
LOL love it
@pennstateyo
3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha
@hetjamesfield4473
3 жыл бұрын
@Soldagg Looks like a teenager.. literally. That is how a person look like when living a normal life with minimum stress. He will live 120 yrs for f sake...
@bradynewman626
3 жыл бұрын
thats fuckin racist dude
@rubengarcia5547
3 жыл бұрын
Broo shut up He's legendary one
I love how uncomfortable Tim looks He like: this is not my bedroom
@terran236
3 жыл бұрын
He's angy
@Revelation22_5
3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same
@Ulquiorro
3 жыл бұрын
Guys, guys, he probably just needed some red wine
@Zakksback17
3 жыл бұрын
lol so true
@andeddokira
3 жыл бұрын
Mustn't have been allowed to have his pre gig nap
Tosin literally looks like hes learning the song on the spot and is nailing it better than 90% of the population
@gbenselum
2 жыл бұрын
He did a Petrucci
@mauricionez4778
2 жыл бұрын
@@gbenselum hahah petruccinator
@wilsonrawlin8547
Жыл бұрын
He and Tim are beyond brilliant musicians and guitarists. Just amazing skills that are a Blessing IMO. They are on another level of skill from the rip. That or an insane level of practice.
@spacetimeduality
Жыл бұрын
@@wilsonrawlin8547 its always practice 0_0
@elledreamz
Жыл бұрын
@@spacetimeduality Not always true. Practice makes perfect, talent makes gods if practice is applied.
Herman: "I'll do my solo" Tim: "I'll do Sam's solo" Tosin: "I'm just here to fuck shit up" 😂
Herman Li is a high risk high reward kind of player and he honestly doesnt get enough respect for it. he tries so hard to entertain while also playing over the top and you just never get that kind of energy from lead guitarists enough.
@MrKyutTV
3 жыл бұрын
He may not be the best guitarist out there but he is very entertaining to watch. He is such a showman. You can see he is enjoying what he is doing.
@sheldonmontgomery9767
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrKyutTV I'm pretty sure hes one of the best playing right now lol you tripping
@anubis5404
3 жыл бұрын
I think he would be way better guitar player if he didn’t try to be so fancy hitting everything required.
@codydorminey53
3 жыл бұрын
@@anubis5404 that's what high risk high reward means though, not to sound like a dick but that's exactly what the glass canon playstyle means. Flashy as fuck to entertain, but sacrifices execution. Hes gotten a FUCK ton better since the 00s though holy shit.
@takeshelter5313
3 жыл бұрын
True
Notice only Herman Li's hair is blowing and not Alicia's. That only happen when you are a metal god.
@RubenSprng
3 жыл бұрын
I think Alicia did an amazing job, nonetheless
@Skechy3603
3 жыл бұрын
@@RubenSprng Of course, she did a fantastic job.
@arifrahmanto6940
3 жыл бұрын
Who she playing bass?
@xXxThelegend27xXx
3 жыл бұрын
Hey wait a minute why isn’t her hair blowing 😳
@darkcrypter3305
3 жыл бұрын
same thing with Tosin and Tim, Herman is literally an airbender
As soon as Herman Li starts playing guitar, the wind spawns
@PrdWolf
Жыл бұрын
Yups😂
What makes Herman go from expert guitarist to legend? That performance. He's not just playing incredibly difficult licks, he's dancing, showboating, driving the energy of the performance, putting on a show. Amazing stuff.
@hbrandon947
11 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree! Herman has that live experience that just ELEVATES even the smallest riffs! Tim and Tosin are incredible but they need to add some movement!
Funny how growing up being a "bedroom guitarist" was discouraged, now everyone is a bedroom guitarist :D
@StevenBrown-me
3 жыл бұрын
Someone made a Van Halen tribute cover recently, and YT guitar teacher Ben Eller took the solo, and they cut over to him in the video, and he cranks it out while sitting in his office chair. Not a criticism, it’s just kind of funny to me 😄
@leerobbo92
3 жыл бұрын
@@StevenBrown-me Which one was that?
@jamiemoll2484
3 жыл бұрын
Van Halen sat on the foot of his bed with a six pack and his axe.
@holistg8802
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@szabolcsmate5254
3 жыл бұрын
Except those of us who just watch guitarists from their bedroom.
Herman and Tim are all over the fretboard. Tosin is like "I got enough strings"
@rahamusik8786
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@russellzauner
3 жыл бұрын
If Time and Herman had one less string each, Tosin would have exactly the same amount as them put together. I really thought since we were going in even numbered increments, Tim would have brought the crazy 8 string black and gold or at least the blue burl, then we'd have 6, 8, 10. I was hoping Tosin would use the extended advantage to straight up cut heads but no joy in mudville
@russellzauner
3 жыл бұрын
*Tim
@traceur694
3 жыл бұрын
@@russellzauner Tosin only has 8 strings, Herman and Tim both have 6, 12 vs 8, they'd need to lose 2 strings each. It's crazy but not that crazy. What's more crazy is the guitar Tosin is playing is his guitar brand and so many other guitarists are picking them up.
@arkeeper
3 жыл бұрын
@@russellzauner Tosin has an 8 string, not a 10
Let's be honest Abasi got a huge understanding of music theory, 6:27 It's like his solo improvisation is as good as the record studio without copycat it
@sicklelkcis
Жыл бұрын
Fr the solo goes so hard
Legend says there wasnt even a fan in that room , thats just how Herman Li's hair goes when he's rocking
This looks like the character selection screen. Tosin is the tank, Herman is the assasin, Tim is the sniper, Alicia is the assault class.
@aneveningwithebola2727
3 жыл бұрын
No healers? This match is gonna suck...
@genericthepyromain1745
3 жыл бұрын
@@aneveningwithebola2727 Sam would be support if he were there
@UrianArt
3 жыл бұрын
@@aneveningwithebola2727😂 feel you bro
@matthewfreedman2925
3 жыл бұрын
What's the group she plays in
@menolikeyou2368
3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewfreedman2925 Dragon Force
Tim sure did his homework, while Tosin seems like that guy who never studies for the test but aces it anyway
@axeloma
3 жыл бұрын
He didnt aced it tho
@WLxMusic
3 жыл бұрын
@Idea Headed He's improvising here in the key of the song. It itself isn't that hard, what's difficult is performing that quickly and with that much articulation. Also, "tab it out without software"? Do mean learning a song by ear? Yeah, a vast number of musicians can do that. What's really impressive about Tosin is his composition skills and his playing style. Tosin is fucking amazing, but be impressed for the actual impressive reasons please.
@sondrestrmme4006
3 жыл бұрын
In reality I think it's the opposite. Look at how high Tosin's guitar is on his body. That's a sign of a man who knows his shit.
@LimewaterMusic
3 жыл бұрын
@Idea Headed advanced musicians don’t use tabs lol
@dante6x
3 жыл бұрын
@@WLxMusic No he means he can tab out shit without needing software and without picking up his guitar
Wherever herman goes, the wind goes with him
You notice that only Herman's hair was blowing in the breeze? That's just ho legendary he has become.
Bruh tosin always looks like he’s dressed from a Final Fantasy game lol
@kissthunderstrike4014
3 жыл бұрын
His brother is a fashion designer - so Tosin always wears crazy outfits.
@sampojuuti
3 жыл бұрын
He should be featuring Misha's FF7 prelude bombfare medley!
@swagathon6967
3 жыл бұрын
It’s cus he is ( he’s not )
@aminals8933
3 жыл бұрын
Hes like a 2020 D&D bard level 9,000
@TheSignatureK
3 жыл бұрын
You talking about Alicia, the bass player, right?
Lets face it, if it weren't for the pandemic disaster we wouldn't have the chance to watch these Legends in a live stream. Also Tosin holding his guitar at nerdy highs
@thetroll8655
3 жыл бұрын
Easier to play up high. I used to play low. Then looking cool DIDNT matter to me as much as playing clean. Doesn’t work with everyone
@ALEmix-zw2sc
3 жыл бұрын
@@thetroll8655 same with me bro 😆
@Lluchelukacs
3 жыл бұрын
playing low is bad for the wrists, especially shredding stuff
@evanho4538
3 жыл бұрын
Love this thread. Been trying to get my one younger friend to hike his damn shit up because his wrists are gonna be toast in like 5 years if he doesn’t cut that shit out.
@DomainObject
3 жыл бұрын
Yup. There’s a silver lining in every situation. Thank goodness these Gods were brought together in this setting... and we were able to witness it.
I love that Tim and Herman are such different styles when they SHRED. One is super chill and the other is super theatric and both are hard to stop watching
@bowlofnuggets
Жыл бұрын
yes! so good watching them shred, tim was super sick would love to see him in trivium or something lol
The confidence this man has to just grab the whammy without the guitar at 1:00, i’d be deathly afraid to do that. Great stuff Herman
@mightypopkorn
11 ай бұрын
Yeah bro, im even afraid just seeing herman doing that
Tosin abasi: looks really uncomfortable playing in 4/4 Tim henson: feeling lost shredding in standard minor mode. Alicia: is my bass on ? Herman li:I AM GOD
@anthonyfulton3218
2 жыл бұрын
Accurate 😂
@DannySlept
2 жыл бұрын
Lmao !!!
@alilstrangeinitt9508
2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@workwithwegs4541
2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHA
@elkmeatenjoyer3409
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I'd you can't hear the bass get better headphones.
An Asian dude, a black dude, and a white dude all insanely shredding while a lady holds down the low end. If this isn’t the very definition of world peace, I don’t know what is.
@FresGamerMan
2 жыл бұрын
Tim is american chinese 😅
@richharris2864
2 жыл бұрын
@@FresGamerMan Even better, lol
@dan7735
2 жыл бұрын
69 likes, nice, thats world peace now
@11luciacifer11
2 жыл бұрын
Tim's also asian I think
@andrewhutchinson3074
2 жыл бұрын
The white dude is also chinese. Lmao.
The smiles while Herman is playing brings joy to my heart. It is amazing to watch someone enjoy their craft so much and share it with others. Thank you Herman Li!
That bass player is badass!! She is so solid all the way through.
@DaEpicTable
Жыл бұрын
Nothing better than a tight bass player. And no I dont mean tight down *there*
@winstonacousticstudio445
Жыл бұрын
@@DaEpicTable brrr
@davidwilson6577
Жыл бұрын
The bass was way too loud, which tells you how solid she is because no-one is complaining about it lol. Looks slight enough to be toppled over by a squirrel's sneeze, but keeps perfect time with that thing slung around her knees. Must be made out of steel cable.
@Durwood71
Жыл бұрын
And she's gorgeous.
@viviolet7
Жыл бұрын
check out her own band, then! she plays for dragonforce but she fronts for vigil of war. awesome voice.
Bruh, the way he flipped the guitar with his knee was enough for me to watch this video multiple times.
@manabboruah7882
3 жыл бұрын
Lol same
@prakharmulmuley7357
3 жыл бұрын
And he freaking smiled after that like is his knee made of steel?
@mrjilian07
3 жыл бұрын
That's his signature move btw. He does that every concert it's always amazing to watch haha
@prakharmulmuley7357
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrjilian07 ik that but this one was a bit too hard
@mikecast8643
3 жыл бұрын
true performer and very skilled on the scales
Tim is from my hometown and went to my high school and it’s crazy to see him playing with living legends, big ups
@bubbagaming7498
3 жыл бұрын
Cool story bra
@rokstarreviews
3 жыл бұрын
1stGuyGamez _ He was a couple years older i don’t exactly remember, my sister was in his grade tho and recalls he was the quiet kid with his earbuds in all the time.
@lilsyrup7903
3 жыл бұрын
Tim is a living legend now..
@bradley8g
3 жыл бұрын
@@rokstarreviews shoulda took lessons from him lol
@tommymango5604
3 жыл бұрын
Tim clearly didn’t go to school...
Li is such a great showman, like you can tell they come from different eras totally..!!
Say what you like about the guy.. he’s one of those dudes that’s just born to be a guitar shredder! And performer.
All the dislikes are from prog fans who hated the '4/4' in the title.
@dcontraptionist
3 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@SuperFake89
3 жыл бұрын
Lol underrated comment!
@dcontraptionist
3 жыл бұрын
@@SuperFake89 yeah
@kiwibaum.
3 жыл бұрын
Or from those who think that the audio is hideous... 😅
@peripherii3124
3 жыл бұрын
@@kiwibaum. it's live on a stream tho. Never gonna get great quality like that
The fact that herman linked his $300 hairbrush in the description is just amazing
@SayHelloToTheRobots
3 жыл бұрын
insane hairbrush!
@Thedoza
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the linked ferrari dog bed
@eetfuk3571
2 жыл бұрын
@@SayHelloToTheRobots missed the chance to say "Inhuman Airbrush"
@daikiisano
9 ай бұрын
Not to mention the Ferrari bed
Imagine you're the neighbor just sitting down for dinner and this is happening next door. 😂😂
@PinotNoir_
Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna complain for that 🤣
Can’t believe I’m just seeing this now, so many things colliding! -Through the fire and flames was one of the first songs that opened my eyes to hearing how crazy someone could shred - Polyphia was the first prog rock band I really vibed with when I started listening to the genre (shout out to Chon too) - Tosin is probably my favorite guitarist and AAL is one of my fave bands! So crazy to see these dudes all shredding on one screen!
Can we just appreciate how happy Herman is like he's just smiling the whole time playing
@OtakuUnitedStudio
2 жыл бұрын
Especially for a song that he's probably tired as hell of playing.
@EricGreene
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen them 3 times. He's pretty much enjoying himself always when playing. Especially for this song, even though it's played every show!
@patata4799
2 жыл бұрын
Yo ritsu what are you doing here
Marvel: Endgame is the most ambitious crossover ever Herman: Hold my guitar.
@impossibledreamer3882
3 жыл бұрын
But he needs it…
@sonikkukarafuto3424
3 жыл бұрын
hold my amplifier*
@SteveAyanami
3 жыл бұрын
heres your 666.
Lol Herman reminds me of a kid who's inviting friends over to show them all his cool stuff
@chaosphere3841
Жыл бұрын
MOM!! That weird asian kid is having a concert at his house again!!
I love his trust in his whammy bar
@Vedho
Жыл бұрын
I love his trust in the stability in his neck glue
tosin is just there like: dunno whats going on but i love it
@Jamer767
3 жыл бұрын
"I dont know whats going on but I can play this and make it better"
@mistercath
3 жыл бұрын
@@Jamer767 fuckin-a right!
@mikecast8643
3 жыл бұрын
music brings all genres together if the vibe is there
@eddie7780
2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamer767 he struggled the entire time.
So the legend seems to be true. When ever herman li plays the guitar, his hair blows from the mystical winds of the gods of guitar.
I absolutely love how Herman Li brings it like he's performing on stage. Also the fact that he embraces so many killer players. LOVE THIS!
40 years of playing means nothing to me now. Thanks guys.
His fingers are going so fast that they generate wind which causes his hair to flow
@chillpill2016
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@philmazzie3674
3 жыл бұрын
He ends up soloing so hard that the kid drops down to sweep picking lol
@user-kp3rv6zj7q
2 жыл бұрын
The funniest comment
Shoutout to the bassist for being the only one serving the song.
@twikie258
3 жыл бұрын
This is why i love the rhythm section the most (drums/bass). Rhythm guitar is alright too
@m0rfans
3 жыл бұрын
Someone has to hold the sh*t together while the guitarists fly! :-)
@TacoMonster4eva
3 жыл бұрын
She’s so damn cute
The way Herman flawlessly flips his guitar every time amazes me
Having a rough week helping my dog recuperate from cancer surgery, and this brightened my day. Three of the best in the modern era just having fun. Thank you, lady and gents. 🙏
Herman Li has so many pedals for sound effects, including overdrive, distortion....and a “fan pedal” for his hair.
@ImMikeWen
Жыл бұрын
LOL😂😂😂😂
@BlenderMage
10 ай бұрын
It's the hairstortion pedal.
Tim looks uncomfortable He's like: "this is not my tone, why I'm using full humbucker sound, I can't use hybrid picking in this song"
@joashbritto
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao. Try to see if you can find his videos from when he was 15/16. Dude was a shredder if I've ever seen one.
@syanesendow4195
3 жыл бұрын
@@joashbritto yeah same like mateus asato Man many of those guitarist in now era Was a shredder when they were young I just can't believe that their style change that much
@user-fb4vx1nk1f
3 жыл бұрын
He's like wait,I thought we agreed on making this a emo or math tone ver.... 😂😂😂
@joashbritto
3 жыл бұрын
@@syanesendow4195 oh yeah. Dude played shred, then church music, and now...a whole new style of his own
@darkstar3072
3 жыл бұрын
He’s like “I haven’t played like this since Muse”
2 guitarists that abused their guitars the most in history: -Eddie Van Halen -Herman Lee
@JeffHendricks
2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna mention Hendrix setting his on fire? Or SRV using his as a pogo stick?
@semavercikazandayi
2 жыл бұрын
@@JeffHendricks thats not just abusing its hate crime
@ghivifahmi4252
2 жыл бұрын
Mr. Big drill song
if tim had the same energy as herman while he was preforming he would truly be the greatest of all time
@samig9032
Жыл бұрын
It’s generational. Tim is from an era where showmanship doesn’t matter because the internet disseminates the music. Herman had no choice but to be cool on stage.
@draincel
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit well said
@chlochlo742
Жыл бұрын
@@samig9032 yeah but it just looks really fucking boring.
@LiveLaughLovecraft
Жыл бұрын
He performs better on stage compared to a small video like this.
@noaha6185
9 ай бұрын
I like tims casual chill energy. It makes him feel like a monk who communicates exclusively through shreds. Its dope.
Tosin Abasi looks like a villain Gohan has to defeat in Dragon Ball Z and I love it.
@blacknemesy
3 жыл бұрын
May Tosin Abasi have mercy on us
@CntBckt
3 жыл бұрын
Favorite comment of the month!
@dhaddad12
3 жыл бұрын
@elchema Do you mind sharing your thoughts on why you believe it’s a racist comment?
@CntBckt
3 жыл бұрын
@elchema Nah...Gohan defeated PERFECT Cell- not 2nd from (aka Popo's cousin).
@dhaddad12
3 жыл бұрын
@elchema I still don’t understand your original comment. Can you please explain?
Herman's neighbors sitting there like "why do i hear boss music?"
@franciscogranados7225
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds more like ending music after youve defeated the boss
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone who shows more love for playing guitar then Herman. Lol every time I see him going off he has the biggest smile.
Every so often I find this video again, and it encourages me to practice harder then I have before
im convinced Herman's hair just Does That
@sharongreely
3 жыл бұрын
it doesn't
@MaintainMundane
3 жыл бұрын
@@sharongreely but it Does That
@_caustics_
3 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@feryfraychannel406
3 жыл бұрын
Without his hair,he is paul gilbert
@user-fb4vx1nk1f
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
Herman: *Speed/Power Metal shred fest* Tim Henson: *Nah we need more lo-fi's here* Tosin: *Confused level 8/3 time signature*
@theeasterling3383
3 жыл бұрын
Tosin- I just play around the scales
@angryscorp2684
3 жыл бұрын
wait why did you loose your Mustache dude ?
@adamrose6969
3 жыл бұрын
Bassist: *over there chillin*
@jepsmcsmackin2507
3 жыл бұрын
Bro I don’t understand why do am I interested in all the same things as some guy with/without a moustache
@lindseyquinn1804
3 жыл бұрын
Im sick of of these mustache people are u a bot sir?
This is what blew up Guitar Hero, everyone that had it was obsessed with simply trying to make it through without failing. And then the 100% expert crowd started youtubing their attempts. This song is 100000% why GH was popular.
06:14 still gives me chills to this day...
gon tell my kids that this was the holy trinity
@geraldmarwein5124
3 жыл бұрын
Bruhhhhhhh
@djwizzle42
3 жыл бұрын
Then you'd be lying, that would be RUSH!! lol
@Joex51x
3 жыл бұрын
not even close
@xmisterblackhatx
3 жыл бұрын
BRUH THAT AIN'T RIGHT
Herman's smile when he's shredding guitar is the most wholesome thing, and brings me hope
@Ryan-ke3qd
3 жыл бұрын
Yvette Young also has some really wholesome expressions when she plays. I love it when you can tell they REALLY enjoy playing.
@lasagnasux4934
3 жыл бұрын
Tosin does that thing where he throws his head back and you cant tell if he's really focusing or if its just his go to stage presence thing, but i really enjoy
@DirtyPotter
3 жыл бұрын
honorable mention for Tim's head bops?
@user-fb4vx1nk1f
3 жыл бұрын
Especially when his hair started flying that's when it gets real😂
@thebbc3522
3 жыл бұрын
Just like EVH
Friggin how many years later I’m still in awe from how effortless he makes it seem. Sir Herman Lee, we’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!!
Where ever Herman goes the wind follows... True story.
When a song is so badass that it gets you suspended from twitch
@gregziel
3 жыл бұрын
@FND I'm referring to twitch banning/suspending Herman Li on twitch because of DMCA and he was playing DragonForce. Matt Heafy from Trivium also got a DMCA for playing his own music on stream too. Honestly record labels need to do a better job at making more robust and smarter bots for music detection that don't DMCA artists for playing their own music as a lot of artists are streaming on Twitch and KZread now since touring has grinded to a halt. All they are concerned about is making a quick buck and or shutting down people for playing their music when they don't. This is all too familiar to the situation gamers had as they dealt with Nintendo copystriking videos that had their content in it for years because of their backwards practices. Now sadly we are seeing it with the music industry in full swing on KZread and Twitch as they have not caught up to current times and are still stuck in their backwards ways. *Edit* I get that it is their intellectual property that they have the copyright to and they can do what they want with it. They want to make money off their artists songs to survive especially with covid and nobody being able to tour and I get that but there should still be some way to use the music in a stream. I don't come to a stream to listen to a certain persons music but for the streamer and if I hear a song I like on the stream I download it on Apple Music (my streaming service of choice) and listen to it. I believe people should be able to play the music on their streams but there is no easy solution to the problem and probably no way to compromise with record labels. Just my opinion. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
@abraham2721
3 жыл бұрын
was that the reason he got suspended? thats fucked up man... I thought it was Sam's fault somehow
@gregziel
3 жыл бұрын
@@abraham2721 Nah the DMCA was from him playing his own music on stream and now he streams on KZread instead of twitch. Idk if he will go back twitch. That is only for Herman decide.
@BambiTrout
3 жыл бұрын
@@gregziel A lot of it is to do with how record labels changed the way they did business in the late 90s and early 2000s because of Napster and iTunes. Back in the day, record labels made most of the money from record sales, and the band made most of the money from tours with the label getting little, if any. When iTunes and Napster came along, record labels started making less money from record sales so they started locking artists into contracts where the record company took almost ALL of the money from both records and touring. This is why even insanely successful artists like TLC, NSYNC, Backstreet Boys and more were all virtually bankrupt despite selling millions. It's also why solo artists are more common than bands now, because the record companies don't have to pay as many people. After a bunch of high profile examples of bands quitting their labels and suing their managers, the record labels relented a bit, but when Spotify and streaming services became the norm, they started tightening the noose again. To the record labels and the music streaming services, the artists are simply a cog in the money machine that can easily be replaced. Copyright laws are not designed to protect the artists, but to protect the financial interests of the labels and publishing companies. Dragonforce being copyright claimed for playing their own music is not a glitch in the system. It is intentional so that the labels can control when and where their music is played. Twitch is not the one to blame for this, as historically they have been one of the more permissive platforms, but the record labels have not liked that, so they are suing the shit out of Twitch until Twitch bans all people using copyrighted content - hence the current situation. KZread on the other hand has played by the rules of the record labels for the most part, so they are allowed a bit more leeway to manage the situation themselves.
@gregziel
3 жыл бұрын
@@BambiTrout Ah gotcha still wish there was a solution to be able to play music but I guess not. Only think I could think of would be something similar to watch parties that is a twitch extension where you can sync up music through your spotify/tida/apple music/etc... accounts to listen along with the streamers and essentially use your account to sync up with the streamer to the song they are listening to but who knows if that would ever happen. Just food for thought kinda idea to get the same result so the music never has to go on the twitch recording. But at this point it's whatever. it is what it is.
I love how there's a wind in the room just on Herman Li.
Three different races united in one langguage we call music.❤❤❤
@hoffmansounds4192
2 жыл бұрын
Haha yea. Tims mom is pure chinese tho. But props to a positive comment lol
@spicyf
2 жыл бұрын
@@hoffmansounds4192 don’t forget about the bass player.
Seeing Herman so excited playing this song has made my day
can we talk about how thicc this bass sounds? man, this rules the mix. I wish my bass recordings sounded like that.
@Clumrat
3 жыл бұрын
Crank the mids, some lows for boom and highs for clarity, add some overdrive and there you go. If only it was that simple
@SonicHakeem
3 жыл бұрын
@@Clumrat what I read here is "turn the bass up"
@ccelik97
3 жыл бұрын
for such lead sections as they'll be busy in the higher mids to treble you'd move up to the lower mids and, at the times the guitar(s) are doing these lower rhythm stuff either moderately duplicate the keynotes or move aside, leave the room and come in from nothing or like maybe from upper registers. Not by any means to dictate anything like this obviously but to me this way it's sound more present in a mix like that :D by an eq pedal with an expression thingy might be desirable to do such stuff on the go.
@AstroVero
3 жыл бұрын
Only B-ASS is real
@sondrestrmme4006
3 жыл бұрын
Power of playing with new strings, it sounds almost straight to DI
Can´t believe Tosin is playing in 4/4. I mean I didn´t think this was physically possible man!
@bbqseitan7106
3 жыл бұрын
It’s like putting an elephant in a Jui Jutsu match Yeah he’s gonna win, but like, it’s just kinda awkward
@Matt-389
3 жыл бұрын
@@bbqseitan7106 damn thats actually a good analogy
@daveataway1952
3 жыл бұрын
I bet he just played a triolic 3/8 over it to make a polyrythm out of it and we just didn't hear it cause we're morons
@danielmaiermusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@daveataway1952 lol :D That´s the only explanation that makes sense actually - nice insight
@Imissthesands-kk8bt
2 жыл бұрын
He just stands there playing like it’s not even difficult lol
Love Herman’s flashiness with the guitar.. amazing display of showmanship.. all these musicians killed it
I loved hearing the bass at the end and throughout the whole song. Much of it gets drowned out by all the shredding that’s involved in this song
No one: Literally no one: Tosin: *DUM DUM DUM*
@fourpapa1
3 жыл бұрын
??
@carlchameleon9847
3 жыл бұрын
@@fourpapa1 thump meme
@marosvarga9198
3 жыл бұрын
@@carlchameleon9847 Well I actually related to his random picks i.e. 5:25, 6:09, 6:20 :D
@carlchameleon9847
3 жыл бұрын
@@marosvarga9198 didnt even notice that at first lol. good catch
i like to imagine the neighbor looking out his window at 9pm like goddammit this guy is at it again
i love how happy herman is the entire time hes doing this lol mans got a lot of passion and love for it
8:13 I was literally cackling. That's exactly the comment I'd expect on the internet. awesome show! Hernan is such a nice guy man he really is
Lol it's so weird seeing Tim and Tosin play "normal" metal
@rhetoricvl383
3 жыл бұрын
facts lol
@Vedho
Жыл бұрын
polyphia isn't metal
@jackh321
Жыл бұрын
@@Vedho Not anymore at least, their early stuff had a lot of metal influences and sounds in it though. Fair bit of Djent, shred and sweep picking.
@Vedho
Жыл бұрын
@@jackh321 I might check that out
@chlochlo742
Жыл бұрын
Seriously, they aren't metal at all. What the fuck happened to beer, bullet belts and long hair? At least Herman is cool as fuck
tosin has no idea when to come in lol
@njl4515
3 жыл бұрын
Both him and Tim are like "I wish I practiced this more than once" but luckily they're just fucking legends and made it sound sick
@maaaaaap
3 жыл бұрын
@@njl4515 totally
@TrentonF505
3 жыл бұрын
@@njl4515 yeah you could tell they were a bit out their element. Regardless they did better than what 99.99% guitarists could have done.
@Gio102897
3 жыл бұрын
@@TrentonF505 yeah this isn't really their style of music(not that they can't obviously but they're style is a bit different)
@ghgodsexposed
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Tim plays guitar hero, so he knows the song decently.
Stunning as always! And your bass player is just incredible!!
This was insane! The talent in the room is “Over 9000!”.
8:23 "You guys have been absolutely awesome man" "Thanks dad"
No one: Herman doin the Outro: Tim In the back: Imma just shred quietly on my guitar
@Juli-zg7sj
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh I didn't even notice!
@ryanbell7618
3 жыл бұрын
@@Juli-zg7sj I think it’s a nervous habit he does idk 🤷🏼♂️
@Juli-zg7sj
3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanbell7618 Yeah it definitely is he's mentioned it before that his guitar is like his fidget cube but I just didn't notice he was doing it this time so thanks for pointing it out ig
This is quite possibly the most holsom thing I have ever seen in my entire life on KZread. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. Bravo 👏👏👏
Absolute unit Herman Li. Living legend
I can imagine how uncomfortable it must've been for Tosin to groove to 4/4
It feels weird now to watch Herman playing this song live along ZP's vocals track.
@honza5798
3 жыл бұрын
And with shoes on!
@ghostbaum
3 жыл бұрын
@@honza5798 it's better than them re-recording the track so that ZP isn't on the payroll like other bands have done.
@juanfernandofernandez2730
3 жыл бұрын
Noob here, explanation pls?? I just discovered dragonforce... :c
@skid544
3 жыл бұрын
@@juanfernandofernandez2730 Zp Theart was the original singer, the singer you hear on Through the Fire and Flames. He left the band and was replaced by Marc. People always compare them even though they are so different. Marc is more typical Power Metal sounding, but ZP had some uniqueness and unreal stage presence. The main problem people highlight was ZP started to sound very ‘tired’ in the latter part of his time with Dragonforce.
@Ion_thruster
3 жыл бұрын
@@skid544 thanks
This makes me so happy! Thank you.
Tim’s commitment to the song playing along with all the other guitar lines plus his solos is #1
tim and tosin looks like they dont know whats going on XD
@mikecast8643
3 жыл бұрын
herman is alpha when it comes to putting on a show/stream
I joined in on my keyboard from home completely butchered the song but had a blast
@o00thunderhawk00o
3 жыл бұрын
yeah i do that too when i watch live which is why i wish there was a lossless streaming service for twitch for these types of times cuz its sooooooo compressed sounds ass but still sounds good lol
@SirGreyKnight
3 жыл бұрын
this made me smile laugh if thats even a thing lol
@RezidueWithaZ
3 жыл бұрын
They butchered there own song too dont worry lol
@landerhendrickx3522
3 жыл бұрын
XD
Can’t wait to see Dragonforce live! Going to be amazing.
Fantastic to also see Tosin Abasi, like seeing the dream team assembled. The universe nearly imploded, the power was almost too much!
Herman : Dad Alicia : Mom Tim : Son Tosin : Uncle
@ballsin3d205
3 жыл бұрын
tosin touched tim didnt he
@lamblatte8139
3 жыл бұрын
@@ballsin3d205 woah
@UnrealGamer099
3 жыл бұрын
accurate
@user-km1zm4bs4r
3 жыл бұрын
Funny enough. Tim is part chinese
DragonForce and Friends. Sounds like a franchise
@dcstar7772
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like something I would get up early to watch on Saturday Mornings.... “With our Forces Combined!”💪😎
@shashwatlohia4795
3 жыл бұрын
It's the vanilla version of KISS' fan club if you know what I mean
I appreciate Alicia's Bass playing. Easy but on point. Chill to listen to
The legends stillsss carry on forever and ever
They four are like: 😎 😋 😐 😉
Just wanna give props as a fellow bass player to Alicia for setting an amazing groove throughout the whole song :)
@xoceingo
3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! And I also feel bad she wasn't in the whole middle frame. But yeah, props to her! Without her there, the live music won't be balanced.
@Soily9
3 жыл бұрын
@@xoceingo She's not even in the title of the video :/
@xoceingo
3 жыл бұрын
@@Soily9 I know right? @DragonForce Herman Li, kindly include Alicia in the title of this video and I will like the video, I promise.
I love it whenever an artist plays one of their songs it is never really like the original, it’s mixed like it probably would’ve sounded great this way.
Herman li still got that flair element I’m always hyped up by it!