this is unbelievable content. props for bringing this out -- loved hearing their thoughts out loud on every round + the analysis

The videos on this channel are so well selected and explained, excellent job as always!

Awesome stuff! Thanks so much for sharing!

Great video and analysis! I really liked how hunt articulated that the brick river allows him to continue overbetting, given it does not strengthen his opponents range but everything in his range got stronger or much weaker.

this format is awesome! Love hearing the real time thoughts of the players. This hand was nothing crazy, pretty straightforward, but it was still good to hear your insights.

This is fascinating hearing their thought process. You make a great point about getting too focused on one aspect of villain's range, I am so guilty of this and get drowned on the river more than I should.

Top quality stuff man, keep it up. You are making me super-interested in more technical analysis of Poker.

Great stuff. Thanks.

excellent video! so instructional for players at any level

this is really good content, love it

solid gold as always

Awesome content

still great content throughout years

Which tournament is it? Where players explain their live thought processes. Sounds like a great method to learn poker.

Wasn't too keen on that T, but it's still somewhat close. Been hearing everywhere for the past couple years that it's suboptimal to bluff with missed flush draws because you block your opponents folds. Can you review a hand showing how/if this affects the dynamic in situations when the flush completes on the river and your strong hand (2 pair, set, etc) suddenly becomes much weaker?

@schroederluck7984

Жыл бұрын

Basically asking isn't it exploitable if you never bluff missed flush draws, but always go for value when the flush completes, isn't that playing your hand face up? How does this affect bet sizing when the flush completes and you do/don't have the flush? Are you forced to bet big with flushes and total bluffs and just check back everything else?

@tassv5909

Жыл бұрын

@@schroederluck7984 you never bluff missed flush draws cos you block his missed flush draws. hence better bluff missed straight draws. this is not face up as you could eg bluff river flushes with straight draws with 1 flush blocker too (here AsQ) . in general there is no fear of exploitation as GTO means you have the equilibrium strategy that cannot be beaten. your 2 pair set etc does not become much weaker if flush completes. yes they have draws that complete but often only 5 and more frequently top pair kicker with a flushdrawblocker kicker like KT here that has to call cos you can bluff e.g. AsQ if 3 cflu completes.

@schroederluck7984

Жыл бұрын

@@tassv5909 Good info, thank you. I can see some situations where you can bluff missed flush draws, though. Such as if you're the preflop aggressor and have a baby flush draw (34s, for example). If your opponent sticks around preflop and then on a flush draw flop, it might be reasonable that your opponent has higher flush draw cards. Perhaps our flush draw missing by the river increases the chances slightly that our opponent is blocking the flush draw with their own hole cards? Depending on board texture and how the action went and player type, I think bluffing missed flush draws can be perfectly reasonable and even +EV in some spots

@dxfifa

Жыл бұрын

@@tassv5909 You have to be able to assess how much of your opponent's range is draws though. Sometimes the villain just has a lot of 1 pair or weak made hands that don't want to call anything more as a percentage

150% ip on turn is a thing or nah?

@Rechnerstrom

Жыл бұрын

Is a thing if: your range is polarized and opponents range is linear (or condensed) and you have the nut advantage

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Why would vauagjn want to have a spade? Wouldn’t he not want to have a spade as it makes it more likely his opponent was bluffing w spades?

Over bet 3 street if deep is lovely

So the aggressor should not triple barrell spade draws cause it would block some of the BB folding range. The BB prefers to call with a ♠️ because the aggressor should not bluff with it. OMG

KQ seems like bottom of calling range on river vs the two overbets. This is live not online where people take more bluff spots.

Seems like this whole analysis was basically just saying Vaughan is a fish. Did I miss something?

Losing 500$ in a 35$ pot with top pair no kicker against utg open. Sounds like solid call down

@Gos1234567

Жыл бұрын

Talked himself into calling,where do i constantly see that?O yea my local 1/2 game🤣

@danielong4013

Жыл бұрын

Yeah or he can make 500$ did you not hear the rest of the video where villain is polarised

If you are Vaughn why even call the turn overbet?

i've been squeezing my brain to try and understand the last point about bluff catching with ur spades but i can't seem to get it. -you say UTG wants to check his hands with a spade because he blocks spades that BB would want to fold -and then right after you say BB wants to bluff catch with hands that have a spade in them! that seems to be a contradiction with the previous sentence, if BB's gonna bluff catch when he has spades, wouldn't UTG want to bluff with his missed spade draws cuz he then blocks BB's bluff catching range? it seems like a circular reasonning, what if UTG bluffs many of his missed spades? then it would be catastrophic for BB to call his hands with a spade. I am curious what node locking UTG's bluff range with his missed spades (while still keeping balanced, so removing other bluffs) would mean. How would BB exploit that? seems GTO both ways.

@FindingEquilibrium

Жыл бұрын

There are two general principles at play on the river. The first is, when bluffing, you generally want to prioritize hands that block calls and/or unblock folds. In this case, one of the most prominent categories of autofolds in the BB's range are missed spade draws, so UTG will not want to bluff with spades. The second principle is that you want to prioritize bluffcatching hands that block V's value and unblock bluffs. Since we know that UTG should not be bluffing with spades, it means that most of his bluffing combos will not contain a spade. So UTG holding a spade is unblocking most of the BB's bluffing range. This is the equilibrium strategy, so UTG will not want to counteract this by bluffing with spades because his spades would still be blocking many of BB's autofolds from a probability standpoint - meaning he loses EV relative to bluffing without a spade. I suppose if BB's strategy is fixed and won't change then UTG can deviate, but if we assume BB can counter UTG's counter, not bluffing with hands that prominently block villain's autofold is the optimal play.

@mcdoji

Жыл бұрын

@@FindingEquilibrium One thing I'm curious about is what spades does BB have to call turn overbet with? Is BB really supposed to call a turn overbet with Ax spades? The only reasonable spades I can think BB can have are QTs and T9s so only big combo draws or Kx spades. Curious to hear your take on how often and what spades does BB call turnoverbet with.

@FindingEquilibrium

Жыл бұрын

@@mcdoji It will depend on the situation, but here, yes some combo draws or pair plus flush draws called on the turn, which end up being BB's weakest hands on the river.

The cbettor is supposed to be a coach I guess but man his flop analysis should be the end of that

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All the GTO "knowledge" to make a dumb call on the river instead of using common sense and looking for a better spot. Kudos!

@tavishmcdonell6615

Жыл бұрын

It’s not a dumb call, it’s an indifferent spot or close to it, as Vaughan recognized. Hunt is good enough to have bluffs there.

@natebrow9236

Жыл бұрын

Right...there was a smallest sliver of green even "allowing" a call preflop. Then justification throughout basically amounting to "I have top pair so yeah". Meanwhile, he has Ks blocking some flush draws, and a T, blocking some straight draws.

@Gos1234567

Жыл бұрын

@@tavishmcdonell6615 Obviously not a good call when the solver folds and a solver would have way more bluffs than Hunt.

@MrKaytor

Жыл бұрын

@@natebrow9236 classic Ks blocking FD's also known as top pair

@Nick-xu7ns

Жыл бұрын

“look for a better spot” lmao

I don't really understand the concept of this show. Admittedly they are not supposed to hear the other player talk (are we sure about that, though? How effective are the headphones?), but wouldn't they be able to lip read (at least some words)? Plus they make faces etc... So I don't understand if this show is only for pedagogical purposes, or if players really play for money and in a competitive way?