Has LeBron James Been ROBBED of Multiple MVPs?

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It's about time we had this discussion about LeBron being "Robbed" of Multiple MVPs throughout his career. Hope you enjoy.

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  • @abuhassan8849
    @abuhassan88493 жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: LeBron himself said (back in 2011) that Derrick Rose was NBA's MVP.

  • @ricardolozano5356

    @ricardolozano5356

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know

  • @justinpurcell3717

    @justinpurcell3717

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, and Lebron wasn't even 2nd place in the running IMO. Howard was 2nd place 22.7ppg 14.5 RPG and 2.4 BPG if I remember correctly.

  • @chasam1

    @chasam1

    3 жыл бұрын

    2011 MVP was stolen from Dwight Howard. 66 double-doubles, 22.9 ppg, 14.1 rpg, 2.4 bpg, 1.4 spg, 1.4 apg, 59%fg, 38.6 mpg, 78 games played, Magic record 51-27, 4th East. Dwight played pretty much alone, no all-stars around him. Only Ryan Anderson played more than 60 games, lot of injuries in that team, just a shell of what they were 2 years earlier....

  • @franktraub4757

    @franktraub4757

    3 жыл бұрын

    He said it b'cuz that is what is called good sportsmanship. Everyone knows D-Rose won that award b'cuz of LBJ's 'The Decision'.

  • @justinpurcell3717

    @justinpurcell3717

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chasam1 I mean, you're right but Rose didn't have superstars around him either except for a defensive god (before injuries) in Noah. I think Howard should have won that MVP too

  • @seanflaherty1225
    @seanflaherty12253 жыл бұрын

    It's a regular season award and some people don't and never will understand that so they just see lebron as the best player in the playoffs every year so they think he should be the mvp.

  • @iluvcakes19

    @iluvcakes19

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @Ma1q444

    @Ma1q444

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s why mvps don’t matter

  • @calvinsimpson1301

    @calvinsimpson1301

    Жыл бұрын

    No lol. He consistently put up better numbers than the mvp in the regular season, and the most egregious example was 2011. Rose has more assists. LeBron had more Ppg, rpg, bpg, spg, fg%, win shares and defensive win shares, all defense selection and better defensive stats across the board. It came down to record and story. If you believe the record is more important than all those factors combined, cool (they were like 3 games apart). I just think that's ridiculous

  • @John6-40

    @John6-40

    7 ай бұрын

    ​​@@calvinsimpson1301LeBron averaged a whopping 1.7 more points. Look dude, the stats were close enough (Rose played more games, had more assists, more blocks, better 3pt % and better FT% if you want to really be technical) that what the MVP came down to is that Rose won more games with way less talent around him. You can't deny that.

  • @calvinsimpson1301

    @calvinsimpson1301

    7 ай бұрын

    @@John6-40 They won 4 more games, and they both shot 33% from 3. Rose shot 33.2%. Youre going to mention that then say the 1.7 ppg difference isnt even worth mentioning? And that Rose had more blocks when they both average .6 bpg? Come on dude. The difference in their efficiency was absolutely massive. Rose shot 44%, LeBron shot 51%. The reason Rose won was a combination of their record, his age, his play, and voter fatigue. The fact is there were probably 2 other mvps LeBron should've gotten that he didn't because of voter fatigue. You could argue one of them was Kobes mvp in 07 (?). Kobe was snubbed by Steve Nash the year prior.

  • @vihaankadarla7734
    @vihaankadarla77343 жыл бұрын

    based on how the mvp works lebron has never been robbed

  • @adamhijazi6553

    @adamhijazi6553

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly bro

  • @jude7709

    @jude7709

    3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @marlowstanfield6815

    @marlowstanfield6815

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @zackm4132

    @zackm4132

    3 жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @Hinshu85

    @Hinshu85

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think he was robbed in one. But that's about it.

  • @hitman321100
    @hitman3211003 жыл бұрын

    What's funny is that the arguments LeBron fans use for him winning MVP last year you can make those same argument that Kobe deserved it in 09 and 10.

  • @aj79819

    @aj79819

    3 жыл бұрын

    What arguments?

  • @hitman321100

    @hitman321100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aj79819 LeBron fans were using the argument that he plays in a better conference and that he's still in the playoffs competing for a title while Giannis was at home after he got knocked out in the 2nd round.

  • @eazyduzit-tr3nx

    @eazyduzit-tr3nx

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hitman321100 oh yea Bron groupies were saying that, and fools thought that argument would stick. If that was the case LBJ should hand over his first two MVP’s bc he was getting bounced early in the playoffs.

  • @abdisakumbi2281

    @abdisakumbi2281

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@eazyduzit-tr3nx The thing is mvp is a regular season award, and last year Giannis had the best season of all time

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664

    @hristijandimitrovski8664

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@abdisakumbi2281 not the best of all time, but exellent.

  • @Kawhiburnergaming
    @Kawhiburnergaming3 жыл бұрын

    I was robbed of the 2012 MVP

  • @dudelittle147

    @dudelittle147

    3 жыл бұрын

    You were a rookie lul LeBron is so likeable

  • @brianlarkins4250

    @brianlarkins4250

    3 жыл бұрын

    It took you 5 years to avg 20 you just now after 10 years got 10k points right now you battling Wesley Mathews

  • @mdj4197
    @mdj41973 жыл бұрын

    “The 2017 MVP was a 2 man race between Russell Westbrook and James Harden” Lmao. Guy who should have won it based on MVP criteria is Kawhi.

  • @letstalk140

    @letstalk140

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats bs kawhi should have been 3rd but it was deffo between russ and harden

  • @jamarussutton1378

    @jamarussutton1378

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree.And this was the season he played 74 out of 82 games and he was so clutch on both ends and gotten 61 wins.

  • @mr.galactico7544
    @mr.galactico75443 жыл бұрын

    I think you could have put other stats like Win Shares, PER, Steals etc.

  • @lithirawettasinghe5978
    @lithirawettasinghe59783 жыл бұрын

    2018 got robbed ....

  • @ashandrake9515

    @ashandrake9515

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im waiting for these boomers denying LeBron as GOAT,if he join Durant way back then these things are the opposite of hateful comments from nba fans

  • @s.s7337

    @s.s7337

    3 жыл бұрын

    In 2018 the Cavs were the 4th seed in the weak Eastern Conference....😂

  • @Ma1q444
    @Ma1q4442 жыл бұрын

    He got absolutely robbed in 2006 He averaged 31 7 7 48% 50 wins Steve nash averaged 19 11 4 52% 54 wins

  • @rumham7631

    @rumham7631

    Жыл бұрын

    Nah those 2 Steve Nash MVPS should have been Kobe's, the only thing Lebron got robbed of was MVP the year Harden won, and DPOY when Marc Gasol(LOL) won.

  • @fullmetal1766

    @fullmetal1766

    8 ай бұрын

    Kobe was robbed that year

  • @Ma1q444

    @Ma1q444

    8 ай бұрын

    @@rumham7631 Kobe wasn’t even a candidate in 2005 no he did not deserve it. In 2006 Kobe only won 45 games in 2006, l

  • @johnjohnson6338
    @johnjohnson63383 жыл бұрын

    James has never been robbed

  • @splash_basketball

    @splash_basketball

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s hard to say. He could have indeed won more MVPs, but the actual winners of the award in the seasons where LeBron was apparently “robbed” deserved it too.

  • @jadenspears4341

    @jadenspears4341

    3 жыл бұрын

    2015 and 2019

  • @Sf75178

    @Sf75178

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jadenspears4341 what are those numbers?

  • @mauricedavis1740

    @mauricedavis1740

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jadenspears4341 no not at all...

  • @ASP2778

    @ASP2778

    3 жыл бұрын

    2018...

  • @ScorpioGoodvibe
    @ScorpioGoodvibe3 жыл бұрын

    LeBron never was robbed 💯💯. So y'all LeBron fans stop crying 😭😭

  • @aurelionsolph

    @aurelionsolph

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes ROBBED 😆🤣 Robbed by MJ like 6/0 in the finals, robbed being the GOAT 😆🤣

  • @ricardolozano5356

    @ricardolozano5356

    3 жыл бұрын

    he's a cry baby

  • @fragranceinc.8868

    @fragranceinc.8868

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I can see you a Lebron hater 🤦🏻‍♂️that don’t know about nba basketball 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664

    @hristijandimitrovski8664

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@fragranceinc.8868 No bro, if you think he was robbed, you don't know anything about basketball, not him. MVP isn't whole season, MVP is only regular season, not play offs, so in regular season he was never robbed by anyone.

  • @ashandrake9515

    @ashandrake9515

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you guys see LeBron in 2018 took him Curry,Durant,Livingston,Klay,Javale,Draymond and igoudala with Steve kerr as coach to beat LeBron being alone

  • @Bilaldane
    @Bilaldane3 жыл бұрын

    You said it perfectly, I like LeBron but every year he didn't win it, the other player deserved it

  • @letstalk140
    @letstalk1403 жыл бұрын

    MVP is a regular season award ppl get that thru yall heads

  • @iluvcakes19

    @iluvcakes19

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly

  • @lamontjamison9848

    @lamontjamison9848

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s a dumb reward

  • @bosschello2363
    @bosschello23633 жыл бұрын

    Was Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant robbed of MVPS?

  • @Name-wm6tq

    @Name-wm6tq

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kobe for sure and mabye Karl Malone robbed mj

  • @Thegamebr0ke

    @Thegamebr0ke

    3 жыл бұрын

    Now Ik for a fact he will say that

  • @wo4488

    @wo4488

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Name-wm6tq what years do you think Kobe and Malone got robbed?

  • @adamhijazi6553

    @adamhijazi6553

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@wo4488 he said Malone robbed mj and that’s fax

  • @yungluluu

    @yungluluu

    3 жыл бұрын

    MICHAEL JORDAN GOT ROBBED SO BAD IN 1997. Any other year is debatable. But 1997 the bulls had the better record by almost 7 games. Bulls almost had another 70 win season. And MJ had the better numbers. Idk how Karl Malone got it. That was the biggest robbery ever.

  • @leo_adrian
    @leo_adrian3 жыл бұрын

    Man, you cut away advanced stats and defence...

  • @georgepapaioannou4929
    @georgepapaioannou49293 жыл бұрын

    You should make a video of season prior to 2011, i feel like lebron had great cases for MVP in 05-06, 06-07, 07-08

  • @dynamicsasquatch
    @dynamicsasquatch3 жыл бұрын

    His hairpiece should have won MVP at least 5 times

  • @TT-rt5by
    @TT-rt5by3 жыл бұрын

    In 2011 the Miami heat was not the best team during the season. With 2 top five players, Derrick Rose carried his team to the best record and without any doubt deserve the MVP.

  • @abdisakumbi2281

    @abdisakumbi2281

    3 жыл бұрын

    The is that they didnt care, and most people don't care about regular season win

  • @Nextkej

    @Nextkej

    Жыл бұрын

    Look at the stats the copuim is real lebron was clearly the better player in every conceivable metric

  • @John6-40

    @John6-40

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@NextkejLet's see. Rose won 66 games with no other great players while LeBron won 58 games on a stacked super team, and 14 year old LeBron fanboys want people to believe THEY'RE the ones "coping"? 😂 Yall literally try to speak things into existence. If I say I deserve 1 million dollars and keep saying that, I won't get any money. Same with LeBron. Yall can keep saying this nonsense, but only LeBron fanboys and employees of Klutch Sports will believe you.

  • @John6-40

    @John6-40

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@NextkejAlso, for the record, Rose had more assists, more blocks, better 3pt %, better FT %, etc and the only stat that LeBron really smoked Rose on was rebounds.

  • @khentsaludo5162
    @khentsaludo51623 жыл бұрын

    LeBron's numbers are MVP worthy every year, but there are players who are more deserving the years he didn't won the award.

  • @John6-40

    @John6-40

    7 ай бұрын

    LeBron always posts something around 27-7-7 and that might win MVP some years, but tbh there is nothing truly amazing about that stat line. There's almost always someone with better stats than 27-7-7. Especially in the fast paced era we have now.

  • @callofdudie
    @callofdudie2 жыл бұрын

    2018 LeBron was snubbed for sure. Harden had a way better team and LBJ had so many game winners, come from behind wins, carried that bummy Cavs team, and made it to the finals and opened with an earth-shattering 51 points.

  • @jacobtucker5321

    @jacobtucker5321

    2 жыл бұрын

    He deff was robbed. And 2020-21

  • @ankhboldcrain9954
    @ankhboldcrain99543 жыл бұрын

    Giannis also averaged better numbers in only 30 min Also I will say that D-Rose lead the Bulls to a better record than the Heat with Prime Wade and Bron with his second best player only playing 48 games, MVP isn't just numbers it's impact and narrative and with his impact Rose was easily the MVP

  • @PearlJamGuy10
    @PearlJamGuy103 жыл бұрын

    Short answer, no. Has he robbed other people? Yes. He was given the award twice while playing alongside two other All-NBA all-stars when the narrative is that "you can't be the MVP with just one of those calibre team mates".

  • @darkrh5404

    @darkrh5404

    3 жыл бұрын

    Causal Alert: You can’t win MVP if you have another teammate having an MVP caliber season. Dwade and Bosh never had MVP caliber seasons with LeBron

  • @PearlJamGuy10

    @PearlJamGuy10

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@darkrh5404 Steph couldn't win it a 3rd time cos he had Klay who wasn't even All-NBA that year AND Steph's numbers are better this year than his unanimous season.

  • @darkrh5404

    @darkrh5404

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PearlJamGuy10 He couldn’t win it because he had KD who also had an MVP caliber season.

  • @fullmetal1766

    @fullmetal1766

    8 ай бұрын

    I completely agree he shouldn't have won those so really he should only have 2 mvps

  • @jaxsonbarta8648
    @jaxsonbarta86483 жыл бұрын

    Nah if your gonna make that argument I can say Kobe should of won 09 and 10 and MJ should’ve won over Malone

  • @akbuckets272

    @akbuckets272

    3 жыл бұрын

    And Barkley

  • @tylerparker2394

    @tylerparker2394

    3 жыл бұрын

    lebron was way better than kobe in 09 and 10

  • @akbuckets272

    @akbuckets272

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tylerparker2394 did he win a ring tho? That's thr argument he saying

  • @tylerparker2394

    @tylerparker2394

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@akbuckets272 mvp is a regular season award. It doesn't matter if he won a ring or not. REGULAR SEASON IS NOT POST SEASON.

  • @bookieallen7448
    @bookieallen74483 жыл бұрын

    LeBron was never robbed of MVP'S

  • @FullSpeed-qq4np

    @FullSpeed-qq4np

    3 жыл бұрын

    2018?

  • @jude7709
    @jude77093 жыл бұрын

    2018 is definitely one of them

  • @FullSpeed-qq4np

    @FullSpeed-qq4np

    3 жыл бұрын

    Straight facts, LBJ was in his highest offensive peak!!.

  • @ricardolozano5356

    @ricardolozano5356

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FullSpeed-qq4np played no defense at all

  • @jude7709

    @jude7709

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ricardolozano5356 neither did James harden

  • @semionjohnson1351

    @semionjohnson1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    James harden averaged 30, 9 and 6 and lead his team to 65 wins with CP3 missing over 25 games that MVP was clearly Harden's and it wasn't close you LeBron fans are delusional

  • @lorrancelewis7120
    @lorrancelewis71203 жыл бұрын

    In 2011 Miami Heat got off to a bad start and Bron had 2 other super/stars on his team while it seemed Rose was the undisputed leader of his team that had the league's best record. So that's why he didn't win. Had a team loaded with star talent

  • @dudelittle147
    @dudelittle1473 жыл бұрын

    2006 you can make a case

  • @s.s7337

    @s.s7337

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah, for Kobe maybe

  • @janirosario5751
    @janirosario57513 жыл бұрын

    I would love for u to do a video like this on Jordan.

  • @ricardolozano5356

    @ricardolozano5356

    3 жыл бұрын

    1989 1990 mvps

  • @dynamicsasquatch
    @dynamicsasquatch3 жыл бұрын

    He certainly cleaned the graffiti off his fence rather quickly..should get the MVP for that

  • @DPH1301
    @DPH13013 жыл бұрын

    Robbed?????? LOL NO, he simply wasn't the mvp, you can't be robbed of the mvp for almost 10 years, maybe 1 or 2 but year after year after year after year??? NO, you simply aren't the mvp

  • @manofpsg
    @manofpsg3 жыл бұрын

    Bro Chris Bosh Bron's mate said that D Rose was MVP in 11. He deserved 4 MVP he got 4.

  • @gatesaceaveli5229
    @gatesaceaveli52293 жыл бұрын

    No he's not been robbed of MVP, honestly he's been giving too many of them

  • @traguy2625
    @traguy26253 жыл бұрын

    He deserve in 2018 though like that numbers in such a trash team

  • @FullSpeed-qq4np

    @FullSpeed-qq4np

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly. People really don't understand and appreciate him for putting a dysfunctional franchise that tried few trades in mid season in 4th seed and get them as well to the finals smh.

  • @vicedm1145
    @vicedm11453 жыл бұрын

    Where are the defensive metrics? I stopped at the Kd one and may finish later but that’s needed

  • @vladsid3453
    @vladsid34533 жыл бұрын

    no he has 1-2 allstars with him yet their team cant lead the league in regular season.

  • @gideonamankwah6491
    @gideonamankwah64913 жыл бұрын

    Rockets actually won 65 games in 2018 not 67.

  • @kstarr33
    @kstarr333 жыл бұрын

    Robbed is a strong word. Could he have won more than 4 Mvps, absolutely, but i dont think him not winning those other years created nearly as much controvery like it did when Nash won over Kobe 2 years in a row. Personalley i think he should have won it last year but im Ok with the Greek Freak. Anyway this is Sports Fans Only KJ singing out. Love your show by the way bro. Would love to have you on the show one day 💯

  • @kennylynch8575
    @kennylynch85758 ай бұрын

    no he got MVP he shouldn't of witch was when KD shot 50 40 90 wile scoring 27PPG N a lot tougher conference and less help

  • @Pseudog831
    @Pseudog8315 ай бұрын

    The Real Robbed season was 2003-04 ROTY which should have been awarded to Mello.

  • @dischordblast8992
    @dischordblast89923 жыл бұрын

    His barber was Robbed of mvp

  • @dischordblast8992

    @dischordblast8992

    3 жыл бұрын

    Swear to god I think I stole that

  • @acro2324
    @acro23243 жыл бұрын

    2011 he kinda was robbed but if he won that he would have been 3 in a row then 5 so they had to vote someone else

  • @sabrijeemrullai4153
    @sabrijeemrullai41533 жыл бұрын

    MVPs since 1999/00 if the NBA gave the MVP to the player who deserved it: 2000:Shaq 2001:AI 2002:Tim 2003: Tim 2004:KG 2005:Shaq 2006:Kobe 2007:Nash 2008:Kobe 2009:DWade 2010:LeBron 2011:DRose 2012:LeBron 2013:LeBron 2014:KD 2015:Curry 2016:Curry 2017:Kawhi 2018:Harden 2019:Harden 2020:Giannis. Most of y'all will say in 2017 Russ cause he averaged a 32ppg triple double yeah but was his team winning games no they finished 6-th in the West winning only 45games, Harden averaged 29-11-8 yeah he did but he was not efficient this year and he had better team than Kawhi's spurs. Kawhi a averaged 26ppg-6rpg-4apg-1.8spg on 49%fg-38%3p-88%FT and he was the best defender in the NBA

  • @gggyy7104

    @gggyy7104

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nash deserved 05, Lebron should’ve been unanimous in 09, Westbrook deserved 17 and his team was garbage, he carried them to the playoffs

  • @kaiclark8429
    @kaiclark84293 жыл бұрын

    Kobe would have traded his 2008 MVP to Chris Paul for a ring in 2008. Kobe should've been the MVP in 2006. The NBA hypocrisy was on full displayed when they gave Westbrook MVP for a "historical season" and not Kobe's in 2006 despite both being on teams that weren't top 5 seeds in the Western Conference.

  • @abdisakumbi2281

    @abdisakumbi2281

    3 жыл бұрын

    Rememeber James hardens 2018-2019 stats, he had better stats with more efficiency and less minute played but giannis played better. IN 1986-1987 and 1987-1988 Jordan didn't win a mvp but had good stats

  • @demier-mk4qs

    @demier-mk4qs

    2 жыл бұрын

    2006 is definitely bron averaged 31 7 7 and the number 4th place in the east but Kobe was definitely 2007 and maybe 2005 all ik is this Kobe should have way more then 1

  • @wo4488
    @wo44883 жыл бұрын

    You said you'd deactivate off twitter if the Lakers won the championship. I'm glad you kept your word

  • @yv6659

    @yv6659

    3 жыл бұрын

    He also said he’d delete his Instagram if the clippers lost but at least he did the Twitter thing

  • @wo4488

    @wo4488

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRealNBAYoungboy ik ik, its because he got exposed

  • @fullmetal1766
    @fullmetal17668 ай бұрын

    How did lebron win 2 mvps on a superteam? According to the media that cancels you out like it did with durant and curry

  • @kaiclark8429
    @kaiclark84293 жыл бұрын

    The NBA criteria for NBA best player on the best team is a poor criteria. It doesn't truly showcase ones value to the team. Chris Paul has been Robbed of 2 MVPs.

  • @G-TV_TheOneManArmy
    @G-TV_TheOneManArmy2 жыл бұрын

    Having four mvp rings is good enough

  • @joseirizarry1081
    @joseirizarry10813 жыл бұрын

    This is not about award is about winning

  • @AJ_Osser
    @AJ_Osser3 жыл бұрын

    Lebron’s fans talk about the MVP, what about the ROY vs Carmelo Anthony?

  • @demier-mk4qs

    @demier-mk4qs

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bron my fav but I do feel like melo definitely deserved that because his numbers were better and his team had a better record

  • @swolegod7724
    @swolegod77243 жыл бұрын

    No. He should return his 2009 MVP to Kobe and his 2013 MVP to KD.

  • @swolegod7724

    @swolegod7724

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Zoro Hi3i I don’t disclose my info online... I’m here to talk sports. You could be a Bronsexual trying to get info out of me for all I know.

  • @AnObliviousCelticsFan

    @AnObliviousCelticsFan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well Kobe did win a chip that year... soooo

  • @darkrh5404

    @darkrh5404

    3 жыл бұрын

    Kobe is my favorite player of all time but he didn’t deserve MVP in 2009. And in 2013 LeBron and KD both had similar stats except LeBron absolutely crushed Durant when it came to every Advanced stat which is why he won it along with having a DPOY caliber season.

  • @darkrh5404

    @darkrh5404

    3 жыл бұрын

    @SwoleReaper7

  • @gggyy7104

    @gggyy7104

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have to be a troll. Two of the greatest seasons of all time should get returned? Gtfoh

  • @jnl7196
    @jnl7196 Жыл бұрын

    2018 Harden had better help. LeBron just had Kevin Love and a bunch of Washed or Young Scrubs

  • @porogami5048
    @porogami50483 жыл бұрын

    Rose vs Bron 2011 MVP: Rose has the best record in the NBA that year, better win shares and +/- than LBJ. Harden vs Bron 2018 MVP: Harden won 65 games and best record in NBA that year, better win shares and +/- than LBJ. Giannis vs Bron 2020 MVP: Giannis has best record in the NBA that year, better win shares and had a huge gap in +/- than LBJ. stats wise

  • @gggyy7104

    @gggyy7104

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bron had better win shares and +/- than Rose in 2011

  • @yinyang6414

    @yinyang6414

    2 жыл бұрын

    So u saying the best player from the team with the best record should be the MVP .If thats so than its a flawed award and nobody should care about it .Lebron for sure deserved more than 4 mvps in his carrer .The real mvp should be the player that makes the biggest impact for a team . This best player from the best team award its nonsence .

  • @demier-mk4qs

    @demier-mk4qs

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yinyang6414 that’s literally how it goes which it shouldn’t

  • @ionlawrence4401
    @ionlawrence44013 ай бұрын

    I recommend Johnny Arnett´s video on this. He´s done decent research, and although I want to disagree, it seems like LBJ should have had two more. That being said, LBJ has always been stat padding

  • @sbthesage2100
    @sbthesage21003 жыл бұрын

    06 is the only arguable year that or 2011 but I’m not gonna sit here and say rose didn’t deserve his

  • @mrhoward19801

    @mrhoward19801

    3 жыл бұрын

    06 isn't arguable either.

  • @omni_king2317
    @omni_king23173 жыл бұрын

    Jordan been robbed Lebron haven’t

  • @aurelionsolph

    @aurelionsolph

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mj robbed LBJ as the GOAT 🤣😆

  • @ScorpioGoodvibe
    @ScorpioGoodvibe3 жыл бұрын

    I like your case that LeBron was never was robbed 💯💯

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664

    @hristijandimitrovski8664

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's the true, he was never robbed.

  • @dametime2764
    @dametime27642 жыл бұрын

    the only year i believe where he was robbed was when westbrook and harden got MVP thats it.

  • @jordanpieterse6171
    @jordanpieterse61713 жыл бұрын

    I thought lebron was robbed a lot of times but now because of this video, u changed my mind

  • @yinyang6414

    @yinyang6414

    2 жыл бұрын

    This guy is a MJ stan .OFC he will make his case that Lebron doesnt deserve more MVPs ,cause than he would pass Jordan in mvps as well .

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664
    @hristijandimitrovski86643 жыл бұрын

    Damn no, Lebron deserved MVP only in 2018, but what Harden did in his whole career he definitely deserve one MVP.

  • @gggyy7104

    @gggyy7104

    2 жыл бұрын

    Harden deserved it in 2019, arguably 2018 and 2015

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664

    @hristijandimitrovski8664

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gggyy7104 wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. If Harden deserved to win MVP some year, it was definitely 2018 and that's it. He led Rockets to the best record in the league, he led the league in winshares and in PER soo 2018 was for Harden the closest year for MVP. In 2019 Giannis was much better defender than Harden, he was 2nd in defensive player of the year voting, he was more efficient than Harden, he led Bucks to the best record in the league and he had the highest per in the league (I think Harden was close to 29 per while Giannis hac 30,6). Giannis averaged much less points than Harden because he also played less minutes than Harden, the fact that Giannis put those crazy stats on the court in very short time was incredible, so give him mkre minutes and he will have Wilt Chamberlain numbers...

  • @gggyy7104

    @gggyy7104

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hristijandimitrovski8664 Bucks had Middleton, an all star. Harden had declining CP3. You say Giannis would’ve had Wilt numbers, but Harden did have Wilt numbers. 36ppg only done by Jordan and Wilt. Even if you adjust to per 36, Harden’s numbers all still better. Giannis did have better defense and efficiency tho

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664

    @hristijandimitrovski8664

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gggyy7104 dude, per shows how efficient player was during the season😂Harden did averaged 36 points, but he attempted more than 13 threes per game which is the most in NBA history I think, he averaged 12 free throw attemps per game and he shot 44% from the field while Giannis was almost 58% from the field. James Harden also was turnover machine that year and as I said, he played much more minutes than Giannis, give the Giannis more minutes, and his numbers would've been even much better. Anyway, I respect your opinion if you think, Harden was the MVP that year, it was really close, but still, for me Giannis was defensive monster that year, he was much better defender than Harden while Harden dominated the game in one way.

  • @gggyy7104

    @gggyy7104

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@hristijandimitrovski8664 That makes sense I respect your opinion but Harden was too good offensively too not be MVP for me. If you average 36 and 7 you should automatically be MVP imo

  • @fatboy5926
    @fatboy59263 жыл бұрын

    Again - not winning MVP is not saying you did not play at an MVP level.

  • @im_an_alien196
    @im_an_alien1963 жыл бұрын

    Because of the playoffs and the fact that he is the best player, people get fooled into thinking he should be the MVP.

  • @justinpurcell3717
    @justinpurcell37173 жыл бұрын

    Lebron wasn't even 2nd place in the MVP race in 2011... Rose was a literal god carrying a below-average team to 60+ wins. If anyone deserved to win the MVP that year outside of Rose it was Dwight Howard.

  • @sbthesage2100
    @sbthesage21003 жыл бұрын

    No he has not this is coming from a Bron fan

  • @adamcarpenter1869
    @adamcarpenter18693 жыл бұрын

    Jordan should have gotten it every year. But he did get it in every one of the 6 finals he won. The finals is where it counts the most anyway.

  • @AbdulDean448
    @AbdulDean4483 жыл бұрын

    Lebron does not deserve this year’s MVP

  • @ricardolozano5356

    @ricardolozano5356

    3 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Davis looks like the mvp

  • @ricardolozano5356

    @ricardolozano5356

    3 жыл бұрын

    gianas was the mvp last year where is his Anthony Davis on his team

  • @aurelionsolph
    @aurelionsolph3 жыл бұрын

    Yes he is ROBBED MJ Kobe robbed LBJ being the GOAT 🤣😆 ROBBED by SPURS, DIRK MAVS, GSW.. championship 😆🤣 because he can't win at his prime 😆🤣

  • @willredpath4868

    @willredpath4868

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dirk.....really

  • @aurelionsolph

    @aurelionsolph

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@willredpath4868 well, LBJ got destroyed by old dirk kidd vs Prime Lbj wayde teamup 😂🤣

  • @davidjames6036
    @davidjames60363 жыл бұрын

    lol u showed a lil bias by not pointing out wade missed like 30 games also in 2014 season just like westbrook and wade was looking semi-washed with creeky knees that season lol.......durant still had a better MVP case tho but just pointing out the bias lol.

  • @1coven
    @1coven3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the only year out of all of these where I think he deserved it was 2018. Oh and MAYBE 2011, but probably not.

  • @semionjohnson1351

    @semionjohnson1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah 2018 was clearly Harden and it wasn't close

  • @gn35ng27
    @gn35ng273 жыл бұрын

    overrated

  • @Goodpatron
    @Goodpatron3 жыл бұрын

    No. In fact, he got a few that he didn't even deserve. 🤦

  • @mikkelchristensenAI
    @mikkelchristensenAI3 жыл бұрын

    Basically Lebron didn't the the 2011 mvp because he was Lebron. Makes sence. All the other years Lebron always had a good case for mvp, but someone else had a better case

  • @kaarongreenidge2046
    @kaarongreenidge20463 жыл бұрын

    In 2015 LeBron didn't deserve the MVP but neither did Steph Curry I think the award should have gone to James Harden.

  • @spencerleiataua3173
    @spencerleiataua3173 Жыл бұрын

    2008 year Kobe won but LeBron had a way better year all around.

  • @Coldskin1
    @Coldskin1 Жыл бұрын

    2011 derrick rose had bulls the better record with less help

  • @chreezy2325
    @chreezy2325 Жыл бұрын

    From 2007 to 2008, Lebron Merisia was the MVP because he was the best player and he was carrying the worst team to the playoffs without help, there were 2 years of robberies, mind you, 2011, everyone knows that it was stolen For two reasons, first, Lebron was the most hated player in the NBA and second, Rose was the franchise player from Chicago and Adidas, which was the one that made the jerseys at that time... He should have won 2018 and 2020 and he could discuss 2016....They have stolen at least 3 to 4 mvp

  • @yungluluu
    @yungluluu3 жыл бұрын

    Why did you go based off the last 8 years? You should’ve judged his whole career.

  • @RonRyder

    @RonRyder

    3 жыл бұрын

    He won 4 mvps prior

  • @AnObliviousCelticsFan
    @AnObliviousCelticsFan3 жыл бұрын

    I think Lebron has accomplished enough mvps maybe 1 or 2 more but I think he has enough on his belt.

  • @powerman1993tk
    @powerman1993tk3 жыл бұрын

    Nope sure hasn't!

  • @albertatundra
    @albertatundra3 жыл бұрын

    Good grief!

  • @FifaFReak1095
    @FifaFReak10953 жыл бұрын

    Lebron ist the East: Rekord in the weak Eastern Conference Giannis in the East: Best Rekord ...

  • @kingdinodragonite3470

    @kingdinodragonite3470

    3 жыл бұрын

    In 2019 and 2020, the east was actually starting to balance. Last year, the east have 6 teams on pace to reach 50 wins.

  • @orielya5624
    @orielya56243 жыл бұрын

    2018 should have gone to lebron. One of the best lebron

  • @semionjohnson1351

    @semionjohnson1351

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nah that's was Harden year he had a better year than LeBron

  • @NewAgeSlaves
    @NewAgeSlaves3 жыл бұрын

    No the answer is no

  • @dinkyb2000
    @dinkyb20002 жыл бұрын

    Michael was too duh MJ should have won 8 for sure

  • @quasarsky
    @quasarsky3 жыл бұрын

    Lebron robbed 6 out of 10 finals trips. What? No? Then not robbed of mvp ffs

  • @Football-wp4sf
    @Football-wp4sf3 жыл бұрын

    Of course you think he’s never been wrong

  • @Football-wp4sf

    @Football-wp4sf

    3 жыл бұрын

    Robbed

  • @kaarongreenidge2046
    @kaarongreenidge20463 жыл бұрын

    If the MVP award wasn't all about team success then I think LeBron would win it.

  • @kaarongreenidge2046

    @kaarongreenidge2046

    3 жыл бұрын

    In 2018

  • @demier-mk4qs

    @demier-mk4qs

    2 жыл бұрын

    More like every time I literally feel like he’s been good since he got in the league the only time bron didn’t deserve an award is in his rookie season melo should’ve got the rookie of the year award

  • @Scottdick6
    @Scottdick63 жыл бұрын

    2018 and 2011 LeBron James should’ve won.

  • @hristijandimitrovski8664

    @hristijandimitrovski8664

    3 жыл бұрын

    No he shouldn't. If MVPs were statistics, than Kobe would have 3 MVPs now amd Michael Jordan would also has more MVPs and things would be much different. In MVP voting, statistics aren't the most important, but second most important thing. The most important is: 1. Your team to be in top 2 in conference 2. You have to have really nice stats, but not necessary the best stats as long as you winning 3. You have to have nice story. So Lebron was obviosly the best statistical player in 2011 and maybe even in 2018, but he got Dwayne and Bosh and Miami still wasn't the best team from the east that year and Chikago had much, much better record that year. If Lebron was deserved more than Derrick Rose, than he would lead his team to the first place. If he had trash team like Kobe in 2006 and 2007 than he definitely deserved the MVP for leading his team to top 2, but that wasn't the case, and on the other side, Derrick Rose did that. He hadn't superstars in his team, he had role players and still lead his team to the first place so Derrick Rose definitely deserved MVP. In 2018, I would say that maybe Lebron should win the MVP because he had strong arguments for that, his team wasn't so good like before, but still Houston was also the best team in the league that year, Cavaliers was maybe 3rd or 4th place in the east so that's why Harden won the MVP.

  • @preaspect241
    @preaspect2413 жыл бұрын

    mjsgoat pack 🚬

  • @MikeMike-jj8nd
    @MikeMike-jj8nd3 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @johniekilroy2825
    @johniekilroy2825 Жыл бұрын

    LeBron was not even the best player on his own team in 2020.

  • @natnaelasfaw7333
    @natnaelasfaw73333 жыл бұрын

    This is a garbage argument

  • @abdisakumbi2281

    @abdisakumbi2281

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks my habesha friend

  • @papouplay4183
    @papouplay41833 жыл бұрын

    He robbed some yes.

  • @fragranceinc.8868
    @fragranceinc.88683 жыл бұрын

    YES YES YES

  • @marshallcarter4928
    @marshallcarter49283 жыл бұрын

    No he has not

  • @jermo1213
    @jermo12133 жыл бұрын

    Nah. If so MJ was robbed in 93 and 97

  • @swanny155
    @swanny1553 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂 dude you’re a Lebron hater talk about how MJ never got robbed for MVP and 2015 belongs to Harden not Curry

  • @ZZ-ex8py
    @ZZ-ex8py3 жыл бұрын

    Lebron was robbed in 2011 and 2006, he should be a 6x mvp and he should be the youngest mvp ever

  • @kingsleyjackson8287
    @kingsleyjackson82873 жыл бұрын

    Lebum is overrated

  • @wo4488
    @wo44883 жыл бұрын

    You just said LeBron hasn't been robbed of MVP, while completely disregarding the years that he had the best case of winning from BEFORE 2014.

  • @milesaheadpodcast

    @milesaheadpodcast

    3 жыл бұрын

    That doesn't mean he deserved it

  • @wo4488

    @wo4488

    3 жыл бұрын

    @ADTV he also had good case to win in 11 and 06. Maybe 08. Not saying he deserved to win those years, but his case was much better than 14+

  • @wo4488

    @wo4488

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@milesaheadpodcast I never said he did

  • @ericruckenbrod7913
    @ericruckenbrod79133 жыл бұрын

    Flopped mvp’s maybe

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