i super-splurged on this system and venev diamond stones about a month ago! i'm glad to have been justified in my purchase by an expert!

I believe the Stroppy Stuff is actually quite a bit cheaper than Gunny Juice. 30 Usd for 10ml gunny juice vs 37 Usd for 30ml stroppy stuff.

Thanks Jared, your definitely making it easier to narrow down a system selection 😎

I like the clamps increasing options. Versatility is what a modern knife Fella needs. Hapstone will get some of me money .

Thanks for the review. The product is Ukrainian, and the price is American. The average salary of an electrician in Ukraine is $470. In 2014, I had a salary equivalent to €290, and in 2016 it was equivalent to €140, due to the drop in the exchange rate of the Ukrainian hryvnia against the dollar and the euro. At that time we left to work (live) in Poland

@weirdmood8102

5 ай бұрын

Hope you and your family are safe and healthy, Buddy.

I own this system. I got in on the Kickstarter. Good stuff.

BANG hapstone was my go to for Venev as I'm in Germany, with the affiliate link it's a done deal and this will be my new system

Jared, are you or have you finished your long term review on the Tsprof Pioneer? Thanks dude! Love the channel

Thanks for the content. I believe that the difference between the Hapstone CBN plates and the premiums that you reference in the video relate to the abrasive material thickness. The cheaper ones are just plates that are surface coated with CBN abrasive. The premium ones are metallic bonded stones with 3mm thick abrasive layers. These can be used for a lifetime and still keep going, whereas the Start series will wear out quickly, as the abrasive layer is extremely thin. It has nothing to do with the grit rating. In fact, if you finished your sharpening progressions with the surface bearing plates to a very high grit, then introduced the "premium 80 grit", you would bring your mirror or near mirror edge back to a matte, rough finish. That 80 grit metallic bonded stone is extremely coarse!

@vindice5849

5 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, I just ordered the tsprof Kadet pro and a full set of the premium hapstone cbn because I wad told they were amazing and they would basically do everything I need.

Nice review. I was trying to figure out the way to go if I were to get a Hapstone. The R 2 looks like a better clamp than the R S with its little screw pivot, but is that even needed with 2, 3 or 4 clamps on the R S holding the blade. I also cannot really gauge the size difference between the 2 . The R 2 is larger, but how much?

Would you recommend this or the tsprof frontier/work sharp pa pro with AM stone holder if I’m going to get venev stones anyways?

What set of stones would you recommend for set of Miyabi kitchen knives. (SG2, 63 Rockwell)? Looking at getting the Hapstone R2 Standard.

You should look at polish custom knives sharpening systems. They have some cool fixed systems

Cool video thanks.

How would you compare the newer work sharp precision pa to the hapstone?

I just wonder...will the clamps from the RS work with the Tsprof kadet clamp holder? I am very curious 🤔

Great innovation from Ukraine! And Anton is a great guy

I am in the market for a decent knife sharpener to upgrade from my ruixon gen 4 $25 sharpener that I bought cheap diamond stone set 80 grit to 1200 grit ($15). I'm leaning towards this one you are reviewing for $199 unless you have a better recommendation. What affordable stones would you recommend? I also have been looking at the tsprof sharpener as well

how would you compare this system with stones with the WS pro?

Killed it!

Would this unit be able to sharpen large knives, such as meat cleavers and butchers knives with a blade as long as 11”? Appreciate it if you can answer my question.

How does this compare against the Tsprof pioneer?

Recommendation on stones for this setup?

Hi there, Where can I purchase Stroppy Stuff compound??

Very tempting...

Looks like you didnt add in the links to this in youe bio, just fyi

I want to get a nicer fixed angle system . I already have diamond , ceramic and stone ( never use them anymore since diamonds )

This sharpener has 2 huge advantages over others: it is cheap and extremely compact. You won't need a lot of space on your desktop to use it

Thanks for the review. Can someone point me to the Hapstone affiliate link? I must have missed it somewhere.

Ok so I have the precision pro work sharp. If I got there stone holder what stones should I start with. I’m on a budget so I gotta have the best bang for the buck. Savvy.

@vindice5849

5 ай бұрын

If it were me I'd get Kme dianond plates, you can buy them individually and I had amazing results with mine

So, you can use stones from a different company with this unit? It would fit different sizes and lengths of stones from different companies because the holder is adjustable? If that is the case then I am definitely serious about getting this unit! What concerned me is that a set of blades might cost the same as this unit itself or maybe even more!

I have the RS and like it, but find it next to impossible to use for narrow knives like fillet etc even with the short screws when doing 15-17 degree angles. Is there some solution like different clamps that can solve this?

@acartersmith

6 ай бұрын

Did you ever find an answer to this? I have a lot to slip joints with narrow blades and am interested in what kind of sharpening angle you can get to with the RS.

Clamps... Favourite word of the day.

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

I prefer the table systems due to how much more versatile they are in sharpening.

Very nice

How well do the clamps work with thi-blades, especially filet knives?

@wathaet1386

3 ай бұрын

I cannot get mine to give enough clearance for thin knives. Also not happy with tip of very curved knives like skinning knives. Inconsistant angle across blade

Where did you get those storage rolls for your stones? Expensive equipment need good storage

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

I found a 3d printed case for them and had a friend 3d print one out. You can also pay some company to do it and its fairly cheap (cheaper for a friend to do it though).

Hi again, You mentioned that you like Atoma Diamond stones… Re: 1x6 stones for my fixed angel sharpening system Question: 1. Where do you recommend I can purchase Atoma stones?? 2. Does these type of stones requires flatting them after use?? Thank You! Regan

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

You dont flatten diamond stones. That would ruin them. On the other hand, Bonded diamond stones need refreshing, and has different methods depending on the type of bonding used.

I don't understand what the point is of being so exact when measuring the angle at the start of the sharpening, when it is going to change as you move along the edge of the blade anyway. Since, it is a function of the distance of the section of the blade's edge you are currently at from the pivot point.

Compared to Workshop Pro? I have the Pro currently and am wondering about this as an upgrade. to me the Pro doesn't hold the knives firmly and the angle difference between one side of the knife and flipping it over is about 1 degree. can you measure the angle on both sides of the knife without readjusting please?

@NeevesKnives

5 ай бұрын

no however most sharpeners are going to have a slight difference side to side, as long as its not dramatic its fine, you just want it as close as possible, because knife grinds are different in many cases, even if you cant tell one side might be ground slightly thicker

I have a wicked edge we120, would this be a good support system for it?

@NeevesKnives

6 ай бұрын

No it would be a whole new setup, the stones for WE won't work on this system as the WE uses there own specific stones, however if you did get one of these you would have much much more possibilities with edge finishes, the kind of stones you can use etc

I can’t find a hapstone system with an anchoring mechanism that’s magnetic like yours-can you point me to one? Or do you recommend a different system now? Thanks-PS-what stones do you recommend for a Ruixin sharpener-Thanks again

@NeevesKnives

9 ай бұрын

It's the RS system it's in the hapstone link just look for RS, there's just the system and the rs black comes with the extra parts

Looks like a real winner. I don’t see why you would even need all 4 clamps, even on something like that kitchen knife... Like you said, you shouldn’t be putting very much pressure on the stone to begin with.

I like this a lot. It would be cool to get a nice starter set of stones for an extra $50-$75 (I obviously don’t know the cost of stones)

@austinbolton1047

6 ай бұрын

On Gritomatic you can add the TSprof diamond stones for I think $85

If you need new blades how much do they cost? I’m afraid they might charge you an arm and a leg for their stones that are not part of the kit.

I'm considering buying the RS, and it looks to me like the cheaper 2 clamps model should work really well even with an 8 inches or 20-22 cm chef knife. Has anyone tested this? Can you tell me if 2 clamps are wobbly for that kind of knife?

@CKshouta

6 ай бұрын

It's solid enough, especially for the pressure you are supposed to apply.

I think it's an absolute home run of a system but they really screwed up by not including a spring stop collar to keep you from riding the stone up onto the blade. They should at least clearly recommend to people to add that $6 item to their order cause I would never sharpen any blade on any guided system without it.

Man I really enjoyed lasts night's stream with MC! That was neat!

Looks like a very nice piece of kit indeed, it might be time to upgrade from my old KME but I’m rather stuck with the old girl if I’m honest. Plus freehand is where I really want to improve my game. Have a beautiful day J&K stay safe and healthy both🫵😘👍

If your metallic bonded stones aren't cutting fast enough them etch them for about 30 seconds in ferric chloride.

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

KKnives Switzerland has one where he uses electrical current to etch them. I haven't tried it yet but seemed to work for him. No chemicals needed.

@hayden1590

9 ай бұрын

Came here to say this as well, I just etched mine last week and my 80gr poltava is nasty. And I use mine dry.

@jeffersonhenn1086

Ай бұрын

​@hayden1590 Yes, i usually etch my stones for 2 to 5 minutes with ferric chloride and that does the trick. I use it on both my cbn and diamond stones...

What stones with the machine do you personally like and use please send info and size/grit thank you jb.

@NeevesKnives

9 ай бұрын

My Favorite stones are venev, as far as systems go I really like the HAPSTONE and the TSprof kadet pro system, the tsprof systems are more expensive though. Also with stones you should have some plane diamond stones as well, I really like the ones I featured in the video from HAPSTONE also atoma is really good

@cornpop9262

3 ай бұрын

​@@NeevesKnivesif you had to pick between this setup and the tsprof pioneer which one would you get? Thanks for all of your videos. You are the man

Yes stroppy stuff is great.

Can the 2" Ultrasharp diamond stones be clamped securely in the Hapstone RS?

@NeevesKnives

3 ай бұрын

not likely just cuz of the weight, it would if it had a lip to catch

@rojermoder2525

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for replying so quickly! Great videos!

This or tsprof pioneer?

I own the venev set and hapstone premium cbn set. I lapped both sets right away. The cbn stones cut alot faster than the venev. The cbn 80 is alot more aggressive than F80 venev. Also the cbn stones are all the same thickness, where the venevs most of the time are not. Both great stone sets. Both definitely need to be lapped with silicone carbide powders. Stroppy stuff works great but for mirrors gunny juice is still best. I just sharpie what micron the strop is on the bottom of aluminum blanks.

@NeevesKnives

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I do not find that at all, I can reprofile a knife on the venev, I cannot on the cbn

@codyshannon24

9 ай бұрын

​@@NeevesKnivestake the plastic off the stone lol. In the video you were making passes on a knife with the 150 stone having the plastic on still. In addition, lapping them makes a world of difference. Hope this didn't come off rude. 🙏

@cody3078

7 ай бұрын

@@codyshannon24what is lapping a stone? I thought that was to flatten out things like Arkansas stone that wears away more considerably 🤔

@codyshannon24

7 ай бұрын

​@@cody3078 you use silicon carbide powder on a glass lapping place to re surface the stone. There is evenly distributed abrasives thru out the stone, so you can un dish and re expose fresh abrasives with lapping. Btw.. any resin or hybrid bond stone will perform EXPONENTIALLY better after lapping compared to factory "new".

@fuzzynuttz5092

5 ай бұрын

​@codyshannon24 There's plastic on the stone?

Toohr 3 sharpenner smokes this. I own both.

Hapstone vs tsprof?

@NeevesKnives

4 ай бұрын

Top 5 Sharpeners coming soon..... TSProf 👊

( when my knife needs sharpening, I use any stone, as long as its a little straight, rough, and 👋 SHARP!!! It's not in the stone it's in the method ! You gotta put a POINT ☝️!/

Like seen @10min25 of your video, and at other segments before, there seems to be significant amount of up and down play with the knife when you sharpen on this system.

veneeves just have neeves in their name...

@roel.vinckens

9 ай бұрын

That's what makes them better.

CBN stones have NO diamonds in them bro, they have Cubic Boron Nitride which is why they are called CBN.

@NeevesKnives

9 ай бұрын

which is an analog to diamond, same with diamond plates they are made with lab made diamonds which is called soemthing else, cbn is a bit softer than diamond but its similar

I own it. The base is too far forward. If to sharpen a wide knife with this, you would have found you can not flip a wide 12" blade without the tip hitting the base.

Waste of $$$. You don't need some funky contraption to sharpen your knives. Angle finder, stones, (lubricant), strop. If you're inexperienced, grab a marker to highlight your edge, then just have a little patience as you work your edge. No need to waste $300.

@Zpalq

9 ай бұрын

This provides a level of consistency and accuracy that is impossible to achieve by hand. Not to mention the added speed and ease of use.

@joelb1299

9 ай бұрын

@@Zpalq Use a marker if you're a beginner. Now you'll know exactly where you need to sharpen. No need to buy junk unless you really think you must have it. But hey, it's your money. Knock yourself out if you think it will help you.

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

​@@Zpalqno that is just a a misnomer.

@Ub3rMario

9 ай бұрын

No one said you NEED it, but rather it's an option. You trade more money for the time and effort required to gain the degree of freehand skill that would be necessary for the same results and consistency. Just because you don't want to make that trade off doesn't mean it's a waste of money.

@joelb1299

9 ай бұрын

@@Ub3rMario Well than pay $300 for what you can just do with an angle guide and a marker. Here's the thing though, you don't gain expertise by doing it like this and there's really no advantage with this if you spend a little time sharpening knives. Start with inexpensive steel that is easy to sharpen, then work your way up to more difficult steels. As long as you don't use knives for field use, in which case you'll need to cart this contraption with you or hope someone is there to help you if you need your knife sharpened.

Can you use KME stones?