My Top 5 Favorite Knife Steels & Why

THIS IS MY TOP 5 FAVORITE BLADE STEELS ON KNIVES, THESE ARE STEELS THAT I LOVE THE MOST ON MY KNIVES. THESE ARE THE BEST KNIFE STEELS YOU CAN HAVE ON YOUR KNIFE, AFTER YEARS OF TESTING DIFFERENT KNIVES AND BLADE STEELS THESE ARE MY 5 ULTIMATE STEELS OF ALL. SO IF YOU ARE WANTING THE BEST BLADE STEELS IMO THESE ARE WHAT I WOULD GO WITH FOR POCKET KNIFE STEELS.
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  • @NeevesKnives
    @NeevesKnives4 ай бұрын

    I DID MAKE A MISTAKE IN THE VIDEO WHEN SPEAKING ABOUT CRUWEAR, THE TOUGHNESS WOULD BE AN 8/10, WHEN READING THE SPECS I READ THE BLADE HQ ONE WHICH IS NOT AS ACCURATE ON THAT PARTICULAR STEEL AS LARRIN ON KNIFE STEEL NERDS. I LINKED INFORMATION IN THE DESCRIPTION TO CHARTS ETC.. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING

  • @DinoNucci

    @DinoNucci

    4 ай бұрын

    a lowercase comment

  • @cynic4159
    @cynic41594 ай бұрын

    I have to say I always walk away feeling like I've learned something from your videos which is why your Chanel is at the top of my favorites.

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    4 ай бұрын

    I appreciate that!

  • @20alphabet

    @20alphabet

    4 ай бұрын

    Same here.

  • @experienceprecision5406

    @experienceprecision5406

    4 ай бұрын

    That's why I became a member. Few bucks a month to support the lad. 👍

  • @patrickbledsoe2176

    @patrickbledsoe2176

    4 ай бұрын

    Exactly !!! And always get a thumbs up but I got 4 kids 2 n diapers and 1 in collage so sending cash isn't in the budget but the dude that does thank you for supporting great creators like this guy

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    4 ай бұрын

    @@experienceprecision5406 I appreciate that 👊

  • @tacklecentralfishing1051
    @tacklecentralfishing10514 ай бұрын

    S30V does just fine for me holds a good edge is easy to sharpen responds to a strop real well. People hate on it but it just works for me 👍

  • @MattH-wg7ou

    @MattH-wg7ou

    4 ай бұрын

    I didnt know people hated on S30V lol

  • @IlliniDog01

    @IlliniDog01

    4 ай бұрын

    @@MattH-wg7ou Just compared to M390 and Magnacut, etc. If the price is reasonable, most people are just fine with it. You just can't price it like a premium steel any more since it no longer out-performs most of them.

  • @patrickmulligan3101

    @patrickmulligan3101

    3 ай бұрын

    Agreed. There was a time where S30V was the industry standard for a "decent" knife. Times just change and we have a lot of other options. But for most people, S30V is going to do the job for EDC and be very low maintenance as it doesn't rust easily. There a plethora of solid EDC knives with that steel. I've explored into other steels higher range and I have to say I would always feel just better about having my EDC with S30V becuase I know it'll do its job and take a moderate beating.@@IlliniDog01 What I would say is though is that these knives with S30V haven't really declined in price (cough cough BENCHMADE) and these companies need to realize that the sliding scale has forced that steel into mid-tier

  • @christophermitchell7925

    @christophermitchell7925

    3 ай бұрын

    @@IlliniDog01It’s still a premium steel that out performs lower, more commonly used grades of steel.

  • @phil2082

    @phil2082

    3 ай бұрын

    S30V is very close to the best steels on every category.

  • @c7t1consulting87
    @c7t1consulting873 ай бұрын

    CPM 20CV and CPM S45VN are two of my underrated favs. Fantastic well balanced steels for this hot and humid Houston climate.

  • @thomaszinecker1785

    @thomaszinecker1785

    2 ай бұрын

    Way too brittle man no steel should have a glass edge. Hey be careful!!! Not a line on premium steels

  • @skylerbond56

    @skylerbond56

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@thomaszinecker1785I've never had chipping issues with s35vn so I just stick with that and 14c28n as they strop up in like 10 seconds so I keep a shaving edge for long time with those

  • @acid6urns

    @acid6urns

    17 күн бұрын

    how tf is 20cv underrated? literally half the knives on the market are in 20cv or m390 😂

  • @BC08

    @BC08

    3 күн бұрын

    @@acid6urns That fact the 20CV and M390 are more readily available than S90V shows they are very overrated if anything

  • @aarneuuk9601
    @aarneuuk96014 ай бұрын

    This is a SUPER video All the info I'd ever need Lots of effort has gone into production Thank you!

  • @CastIronPrimate
    @CastIronPrimate4 ай бұрын

    This guy! Absolute font of all sharpening knowledge. To have come from a shady background and risen to this level is something to be deeply proud of, the knife community as a whole is all the better for having Jared at the forefront. You're a living legend my dude.

  • @BluetoothBlades
    @BluetoothBlades4 ай бұрын

    I love it when you do videos of this nature...myself and many many others have learned so very much from Neeves Knives . You have the very best channel for learning about steels, angels, geometry, grits, stones ect. That 8 have viewed. So keep it up BROTHER!

  • @christiangarba811
    @christiangarba8114 ай бұрын

    Love this video. Nice work man - super informative and interesting. Makes me want to expand my steel variety 👌

  • @mikereese15
    @mikereese154 ай бұрын

    Awesome video. Always appreciate your insight into steels.

  • @michaell397
    @michaell3973 ай бұрын

    Neeves, I'm really appreciating your deep dive into the different attributes of steels and what can be expected of them with different grits. Ii tried for years to explain just how effective micro teeth can be in cutting. Particularly tough materials. On one on BF paid attention as the local guru there who claimed to be a certified, Metallurgical engineer said no such thing existed. I finally did a deep dive into his history and found that he had so such degree but had attended a trade school. I guess his country does not have the standards we enjoy. Your are doing Fine and are actually getting the communities attention! Good Job! KnifeMaker

  • @bighamz1175
    @bighamz11754 ай бұрын

    As always my man great video can really see the effort you put into them and man learned so much from you keep it up

  • @BigCountry316
    @BigCountry3164 ай бұрын

    Your the man! Dropping all the knowledge....Awesome channel!

  • @southpawscortz34
    @southpawscortz344 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the content Jared. I received a Knife with nitro v for Christmas. I have been having trouble keeping an edge but after watching some of your sharpening videos I realized I was overstropping and taking it to to high of a grit for my needs. Thanks for helping to sharpen my skills and setting my edges straight. I really enjoy your informative detailed videos

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    4 ай бұрын

    if you want to go with a higher grit finish lower the angle, with any steel the lower the angle the better a fine edge will turn out, so if you are going with a mid range angle keep it in the medium grit

  • @southpawscortz34

    @southpawscortz34

    4 ай бұрын

    @@NeevesKnives thanks for providing the tools and a little confidence. I have a better understanding of what I am looking at and looking for. I'm now willing to explore more in my sharpening without feeling like I'm screwing it up

  • @mikafoxx2717

    @mikafoxx2717

    3 ай бұрын

    ​For sure. You want a razor polish? Better make it thin as a razor to slice well. Nitro-V, 14c28n are made to be razor blade steels. I like toothy edges myself, though. Maybe 1k at most but even a good 400 grit.

  • @klrktsr
    @klrktsr4 ай бұрын

    Lots of knowledge here. Always appreciate these videos.

  • @velvetine74
    @velvetine744 ай бұрын

    Really good video, love your explanations for your choices. Given me something to think about with what grit's I want to be using with my different steels!

  • @clintcrosby6337
    @clintcrosby63374 ай бұрын

    Thanks for all the sharpening tips. My knives have never been sharper. Thanks Jared

  • @user-zy6sz2lm3e
    @user-zy6sz2lm3e3 ай бұрын

    Man... Thank yoy for the great honest work you do for us❤

  • @KINGACE9
    @KINGACE94 ай бұрын

    Great video and I highly appreciate the information.

  • @the_knights_edge
    @the_knights_edge3 ай бұрын

    Awesome video, as ALWAYS brother! Thanks!

  • @chrisjones7352
    @chrisjones73524 ай бұрын

    Well done good sir! Loving the rex45 and cruwear spyderco's i recently aquired.

  • @gregorygolden1296
    @gregorygolden12963 ай бұрын

    Great, great video. Never too old to learn.

  • @glockgaston2922
    @glockgaston29224 ай бұрын

    Great video brother and I agree with you on all points. I happen to absolutely love k390 as well and all the different edges it can take. Thanks for sharing it’s appreciated 👊🏼

  • @jayzuena
    @jayzuena4 ай бұрын

    Glad to hear that cruwear is high on your list. It has become my very favorite steel, specifically in a pocket knife. I love it.

  • @DStein-jn9ls
    @DStein-jn9ls4 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this great information! I learned a lot!!!

  • @paulg.5997
    @paulg.5997Ай бұрын

    Amazingly thorough and informative video.

  • @onewade1974
    @onewade19743 ай бұрын

    Such a great video and something I trust your opinion on! Thanks

  • @bearlck
    @bearlck4 ай бұрын

    Thanks Jerad for sharing all your experience with these knife steels. For Magnacut, you mentioned HRC is very critical to the edge retention. I'm wondering with all the models you cut tested and/or sharpened, which companies do you think are doing great heat treatment on MC?

  • @timothyruth4980
    @timothyruth49803 ай бұрын

    Your passion, enthusiasm, and extensive knowledge base is Super Impressive!! Thanks, as always! ✨😺

  • @EZ_Case

    @EZ_Case

    2 ай бұрын

    Jared is fascinating to watch. This channel is what got me into knives 2 years ago. I would have never imagined ever having a knife addiction but here I am, still buying knives I don’t need.😂

  • @roel.vinckens
    @roel.vinckens3 ай бұрын

    I knew this was going to be interesting, but once again you slammed it out of the park Jarred ! So much specific and to the point information... Great job ! Thanks !

  • @bon3y4rd
    @bon3y4rd3 ай бұрын

    I really liked this video. I wish i would have leaned about the different steel options years ago. I had no idea how many options there were. I mainly purchase budget knives and normally look for 14c28n right off the bat. I really like that steel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge about this. It's very helpful and interesting.

  • @reggielawson9957
    @reggielawson99574 күн бұрын

    Thank You. Cleared up years of confusion. Your explanation of Geometry vs Toughness especially helpful.

  • @joshuanapier855
    @joshuanapier8554 ай бұрын

    K390 is my current favorite as well. I got the spyderco leaf jumper in k390 and it was just a strange experience. Just a beast of a steel.

  • @rustytygart405

    @rustytygart405

    3 ай бұрын

    Love k390 zdp189 and truly have never been disappointed with s90v

  • @Knifefreak_666
    @Knifefreak_6664 ай бұрын

    Very learnful video thx Jerad

  • @colinclarke9379
    @colinclarke93794 ай бұрын

    just ordered that Manix 2 lw in Rex 45. Super stoked for my first spyderco 🤟🏼

  • @deadvikingtrolls

    @deadvikingtrolls

    3 ай бұрын

    Manix 2 is the best spyderco too. Good buy. Head the flytanium and get yourself a metal ball bearing cage and thumb slider for maximum toughness.

  • @colinclarke9379

    @colinclarke9379

    3 ай бұрын

    @@deadvikingtrollsill check those out thanks

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThink3 ай бұрын

    Great pics 👋

  • @poppacooter
    @poppacooter4 ай бұрын

    sometimes i really like these types of videos instead of a knife review. thumbs up .

  • @WillLiam32
    @WillLiam324 ай бұрын

    Amazing video, thanks!

  • @Bjornvetr
    @Bjornvetr2 ай бұрын

    Great content! I'm about to get a Cruwear PM3 and you just confirmed how great that will be. Just a question: are those Venev hybrid diamond stones? I have a TSPROF K-03 full kit that I use for my hand-sharpening side-job, and the Venev stones I got look exactly the same as those you're using here. I love them, they cut much faster than the usual synthetic stones, and finer than the average diamond stone!

  • @Abby_Normal_1969
    @Abby_Normal_19694 ай бұрын

    Nice list. 10V/K390 is one of my favorites as well. I have a small fixed edc blade in 10V that I keep with me daily. Got a Sheepdog in 10V that is a delight. Spyderco treats their K390 well too. Magnacut is great. Vanex is great. I love 4V/Vanadis 4E and would really want it on my list. Great vid as always.

  • @wes.killed.it.5511
    @wes.killed.it.55114 ай бұрын

    From one experienced freehand sharpener to another, not gonna lie I was saddened that M4 didn't make its way onto the list😂Still to this day I will preach from the rooftops that my 65.2 HRC custom in M4 is the best steel I have ever sharpened (it's a stingy S.O.B. but I love the challenge lol) and the best steel I have ever used in application for cutting long term. Yeah it's not stainless but I live in southern Cali so I can't even rust my 1095/01 tool knives even with effort trying to do so 😂🤷‍♂ All jokes aside this is a great list and you're videos are always entertaining; keep making content that makes knives fun💪

  • @fredstephens6737
    @fredstephens67374 ай бұрын

    I love listening to experts explain the characteristics of blade steels. Early on, this info played a huge role in my knife choices. But then thinking about how I used my knives, i concluded that the steel wasn't that big a deal. I mean, how much better wiil magnacut cut up a sammich over 14C28N? For me, it's just not the end all, be all when evaluating a knife. If was big into collecting/reselling I might feel different. Great content!

  • @Greg_M308
    @Greg_M3083 ай бұрын

    Great video. Super interesting.

  • @michaelcarr2619
    @michaelcarr26193 ай бұрын

    Best information about pocket knives comes from this guy. Great video! Wonder what he thinks about common steels like S30V and S35VN. I have a lot of knives but those are the most common in my collection so would appreciate his thoughts on those. Also M390.

  • @danielherrera8951
    @danielherrera89513 ай бұрын

    Great video. Really appreciate all the good info and expertise. What are you thoughts on SPY 27 ? How much have you worked with it ?

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    3 ай бұрын

    Not much at all

  • @BangkokMark
    @BangkokMark4 ай бұрын

    Nice detailed vid. Love the information. Thanks!

  • @Kris_Stiletto
    @Kris_Stiletto3 ай бұрын

    Question? Do you think Microtech uses a lower HRC on their M390MK to keep it tough, since they're main use is for Tactical Manual Folders and Side Opening Autos and OTF Pocket Knives? :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

  • @danielabbott9312
    @danielabbott93124 ай бұрын

    Thank you Jared! Some great information here, answered a few questions that have been nagging at me a bit, and explained some difficulties I have had in the past. Also I completely agree with you on your assessment of Magnacut. It is currently my favorite premium Steel with 14c28n and ar-rpm9 being my favorite and preferred budget Steel

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    Aarpm9 is not a powdered metallurgy steel and 9cr18mov that its based on is higher wear. Aarpm9 may provide more toughness. But were talking about folders.

  • @danielabbott9312

    @danielabbott9312

    4 ай бұрын

    @tacticalcenter8658 yes it is, if you type in on google it is in the first line of information also arrmp9 from artisan and cjrb is advertised as such on their website

  • @danielabbott9312

    @danielabbott9312

    4 ай бұрын

    @tacticalcenter8658 also I didn't say it was powder metallurgy I said along with 14c28n it is among my favorite budget steals. But with that being said it is a powder metal Steel...

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    @@danielabbott9312 There is a small tool steel manufacturer in east of China and the Chinese version VG10 is also coming from this factory. You can tailor make the steel composition you want at this mill, but they do not make any powdered stainless steel, because they don’t have the equipment. It‘s electric arc steel. This is also where aarpm9 is made.

  • @danielabbott9312

    @danielabbott9312

    4 ай бұрын

    Considering artisan/ cjrb is the only company that sell this Steel and it is proprietary to them and they've never released where it's made even though there is strong indications that it is from China, I find it hard to believe you know the exact location and what is in their shop. also every piece of information you can find on it states that it's powder metallurgy you can even go on chat GPT or googles AI bard and it says the same thing. Give me some kind of proof a website something I can go to that way I have something for my lawsuit because everything I'm finding is indicating you don't know what you're talking about....

  • @df2dot
    @df2dot2 ай бұрын

    This vid nailed it. 154 is the Everyman steel. K390 what can you say. It impresses everyone. Have to add my other favs. M4 m390, 110v.

  • @NK-wy8wp
    @NK-wy8wp3 ай бұрын

    I peeped Steve Callari kitchen knife, I picked 2 up and they’re amazing.

  • @dustinwhitt5297
    @dustinwhitt52974 ай бұрын

    In order from favorite to least favorite for me. CPM M4, Cruwear, Magnacut, S45VN.

  • @thomaszinecker1785

    @thomaszinecker1785

    2 ай бұрын

    Cruwear and magnacut are pretty perfect steels. M4/4v are pretty perfect BUT you can't sharpen them AND they rust easy! So that's not a "premium" steel for a noobie ya know? I thought 20cv was but it has even more warnings: hard to sharpen. Brittle edge.

  • @tyarnold4088
    @tyarnold40882 ай бұрын

    You have a lot of knowledge. Good vid.

  • @brandonmaples
    @brandonmaples3 ай бұрын

    Loving Aeb-l from Tkell with my Raider 🤙🏽

  • @user-pp1zu6bg2u
    @user-pp1zu6bg2u3 ай бұрын

    I have a couple of K390 blades. Love the edges and retention. Concerned about corrosion though. How do you see this steel holding up?

  • @DieselMech15
    @DieselMech154 ай бұрын

    That tomlov camera makes your videos even better than they already are. Details matter

  • @robertbarnum7541

    @robertbarnum7541

    2 ай бұрын

    I loved it also, and have one (Tomlov DM401) on order.

  • @jonathanwatson268
    @jonathanwatson2684 ай бұрын

    I am a very sweaty guy and i work in outdoor temps year round. I get at least a little rust on most steels in my pocket in a workday. I also like to have good to great edge retention. Before magnacut came out my favorite was S110V but my options for daily carry without rust were limited basically to Spyderco or quiet carry with vanax but i don't like quiet carry knives much. When magnacut came out and became wide spread i was excited because it really opened up my options. And i find that it holds a pretty good edge!

  • @EDCandLace

    @EDCandLace

    4 ай бұрын

    S90v! Highly stainless, fantastic edge retention with reasonable toughness.

  • @Freakmaster480

    @Freakmaster480

    4 ай бұрын

    @@EDCandLaceS90v is my preferred of the high abrasion resistance stainlesses, but its corrosion resistance is so-so. It's more in line with s30v. S110v has notably better stain resistance, even if its toughness/edge retention balance is a little worse. While not my preferred steel, the 20CV family should offer really solid stain resistance when done well. Not quite as good as magancut, but roughly in line with s110.

  • @littlejackalo5326

    @littlejackalo5326

    4 ай бұрын

    My fav is when you buy a Spyderco knife in 110, and the hardware and pins rust but the blade doesn't. LOL.

  • @rshear618
    @rshear6184 ай бұрын

    Hey Jared how is the heat treat on Kizers Rex 45 with their mystic knife?

  • @TannerDuran
    @TannerDuran3 ай бұрын

    I just bought my first knife where I consciously decided on what materials I would look for on it. I chose a 3v steel blade as it has a very high toughness rating, with average edge retention and corrosion resistance- according to the steelnerd article, which is what it looks like you were also referring to in this vid. I would love any advice on maintaining this steels edge, such as the ideal grit range etc!

  • @patricksmatrick6193

    @patricksmatrick6193

    3 ай бұрын

    I took mine, a Demko 20.5 ti, to a mirror polish and it’s been holding a ridiculously sharp edge very well with light stropping.

  • @lymedog3176
    @lymedog31764 ай бұрын

    Jerad, the strop your using in this video, is it smooth or rough leather and what polish did you use?

  • @jhfit
    @jhfit3 ай бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @andrewlyons7629
    @andrewlyons76294 ай бұрын

    I saw the grits for 154CM, CPM154, Cruwear, maxamet,and Vanax…what grits do you recommend for the others and which take a mirror? Thanks in advance!

  • @davidknep
    @davidknep4 ай бұрын

    The new GM biblio xl you reviewed comes in titanium and Vanadis steel. Whats your opinion on Vanadis?

  • @ryanjennings6541
    @ryanjennings65414 ай бұрын

    I love spyderco mostly because they bring us a lot of awsome steels we wouldn't have otherwise . Spy27 and s45 have been amazing for as a work beaters cause the maintenance is near nothing .

  • @andreaburroni2213
    @andreaburroni2213Ай бұрын

    very interesting point of wiew.

  • @danielcluley870
    @danielcluley8704 ай бұрын

    K390 is my favorite right now for EDC. Edge is great and I can get it sharper than others, but I also found I like it as a "user" more partially because it will patina and show use, and I am not afraid to "mess it up" like other safe-queen knives I own. 3v is my favorite for fixed blade/outdoor knives, although magnacut is up there now, depending on use. Sadly don't own any Cru-Wear, I may have to remedy that soon. Lastly, I would say CTS-XHP is underrated, but it could just be that I only ever carried it in my Chaparral, which has excellent blade geometry and heat-treat for a small EDC fixed blade.

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    4 ай бұрын

    i absolutely agree, and wish we could get more cts xhp, the best ive tried was from spyderco and it made me fall in love with it. im not sure why more companies are not using it i heard a rumor that its getting hard to get in large quantities

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    Try k890, you'll like it better than 3v. Or if you want better 3v, try the low temper protocols like delta3v etc.

  • @Leftyotism

    @Leftyotism

    3 ай бұрын

    I also heard Cold Steel moved away from HXP due to availability issues. @@NeevesKnives In the end people just don't use it enough for it to be more available in larger quantities. Maybe CTS just ain't big enough.

  • @MattH-wg7ou
    @MattH-wg7ou4 ай бұрын

    One of my longest lasting beast mode knives is my 20yr old Benchmade AFOII (9051SBK I believe?) in 154CM and it is great but yea it (the edge) doesnt last as long as some others. Had good experience with Guardian Tactical's ELMAX. My only M390 is a Microtech Socom that came unacceptably dull and I havent tried to sharpen it yet as I dont have the diamond Lansky stones. I still wanna send it off for a professional sharpening. Super nice Shirogorov man! Thats one of my grail knives!

  • @stevewodell6183
    @stevewodell61833 ай бұрын

    I recently bought a 14c28n qsp grebe. It cost me 85 doll hairs. Which is the most expensive in my humble collection. It does seem sharper out of the box than the qsp penguin in d2...I haven't made the leap into high-end knives yet...

  • @IddoPinkas
    @IddoPinkas3 ай бұрын

    How do you feel about ZDP-189?

  • @Kris_Stiletto
    @Kris_Stiletto3 ай бұрын

    I absolutely luv the Spyderco Cruwear. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)

  • @Freakmaster480
    @Freakmaster4804 ай бұрын

    The k390/10v/vanadis 8 family and magnacut are my favorite steels. There is nothing better, on average, than magnacut, and the 10v family offer some of the best edge retention to toughness balance of any steel. My favorite budget steel is 14c28n but I love he entire aebl family of steel. If Niomax ever some out it will take this spot, but only time will tell.

  • @greekveteran2715
    @greekveteran27154 ай бұрын

    My TOP 5 steels: 1) Edge/Bevel geometries. 2) Succesful heat treatment. 3) Handle design. 4) Locking mechanism (or sheath if it's fixed blade) 5) Blade thickness/overall design,not for the looks, but for the performance/functionality of the tool. Lastly, I don't have a favorite steel for fodlers, I enjoy though, Ballbearing steel,Vanadis 4 Extra and CPM 3V, on my outdoor fixed blade knives that I use.

  • @IlliniDog01
    @IlliniDog014 ай бұрын

    Do you find that of the lower priced steels, VG-10 gets as crazy sharp as I do? I'm only good, not great, at sharpening, except with VG-10. It always seems to turn out crazy sharp for me if the blade geometry is decent.

  • @jusme8060

    @jusme8060

    3 ай бұрын

    Yup, aus 8 too, sharpest edge ive ever gotten and strops back super easy. I don't think I've had vg10 properly treated. Aus 10 I'm not sure of yet either. Didn't seem to get as sharp as aus 8.

  • @chriswolf7169
    @chriswolf71694 ай бұрын

    Well knowledgeable video to watch brother 😎👊keep on keepn on U Da Man 💪💪💪

  • @moggerius9910
    @moggerius99103 ай бұрын

    what would be your recomended sharpening angle for a White River M1 Magnacut? I think its 62HRC and comes with an 17 degree sharpening angle which I think is a pretty nice angle for it. Let me know your opinion(s)

  • @frankquinby5502
    @frankquinby55024 ай бұрын

    Great video

  • @DamionJR4923
    @DamionJR49234 ай бұрын

    Magnacut LC200n Cruwear 3v S30 s35 and 154cm I call basically a tie I pick easy sharpening and toughness over edge holding. These are some of my favorites. Haven’t used 15v 10v Vanex or anything exotic so my list is somewhat limited.

  • @maxlvledc
    @maxlvledc4 ай бұрын

    I've never considered steels in the sense of what kind of edge it can hold...you have given me a lot to think about it. Thoughts on 3V vs. CPM-Cruwear?

  • @Freakmaster480

    @Freakmaster480

    4 ай бұрын

    Relatively similar steels in terms of function and performance. 3v is tougher but cruwear is still good. Cruwear will hold an edge a little longer. Neither are stainless but both are on the higher corrosion resistance end of "non-stainless". They have a similar hrc range, sharpen ability, ect. I feel 3v tends to take a slightly nicer edge, but it could just be the knife I sharpened had a slightly higher hrc. The choice is really just 3V for more toughness, cruwear for more abrasion resistance.

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    3v is fine when they don't use Crucible's ht protocols. Using the low temper and delta protocols makes it better. Its not a great steel for folders though. Cruwear is better for folders and can be ht with Crucible's protocols decently and can go up to 65rc like benchmade do (Spyderco is lower). Theirs even more advanced cruwear protocols but not often used outside of custom knife maker's.

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    Roman Landes Heat Treatment recommendation: Now this is what I would recommend for heat treat cpm 3v: 1st preheat: 500-600°C, equalize 2nd preheat:800-900°C, equalize Authenize: 1060-1070°C, equalize, soak 30-35min Quench in Oil preheated 60-80°C Cryo: immediately after cleaning, minimum -80°C or lower soak 30min 1st Temper: 150°C equalize, soak 2hrs, quench in water Cryo: immediately after temper 2nd Temper: 180-200°C equalize, soak 2hrs should give you 60+ and a fine durable grain. RGDS Roman This is why I would do it like this. The "receipt" suitable is for a vacuum furnace (Quench with maximum pressure) or a regular cline, but surface protection has to be assured. Salt bath will cut the soak time approximately by 1/3 and thus give better aust-grain. The preheating steps will assure the the austenization steps can be done quick. Quicker speed >> smaller grain Authenization temperature is dedicated to dissolve Chrome and Molybdenum >> fair hardness and some enhanced "Stainresistance" is to be expected. The vanadium will remain in the steel bond as a compound of carbon, hence aust-grain cant really grow The oil quench is suitable for any steel out of the air hardening classes. The thin cross sections get higher hardness after quench (greater volume fraction of martensite) and a less stabilized volume fraction retained austenite. (The volume fraction of RA can be expected (near guess) between 20 and 30% or even higher) Warping of the blade shall not be an issue with these materials. If you have done a lot of hard mechanical work before hardening (milling, grinding,)then do a stress relief so warping gets less likely. The cryo needs to be done as quick as possible below -80°C. RA tends to stabilize rather quickly after the quench (some reports speak of minutes) The longer you wait, the less efficient the transformation to untempered martensite will be. And a minimum of -70°C is necessary to get enough stress into the micro structure, so the transformation (RA>>Martensite) process can restart again. Extensive soak time is not necessary since the process runs at hypersonic speed. But still there will be remains of RA that need to be addressed by the 2nd cryo. The first temper is a low temper so the remaining RA is stabilized at the lowest level possible and at the same time there is enough stress relief in the martensite that has been built and furthermore the transformation from tetragonal to cubic martensite is started. The water quench speeds the whole thing up and avoids precipitation of embrittling phases. Then the rest of the remaining RA will be attacked by the 2nd cryo (usually the RA will drop below 5% volume fraction) so burr formation is less likely. 2nd temper will now temper the untempered martensite build up by the cryo and bring the blade to a fully tempered martensitic structure with a low volume fraction of RA and a fair amount of carbides undissolved. Of course there is the question why not temper it at 540°C? First of all, if you don't have access to cryo then this is your way to go. In my studies of edge stability I did extensive work to compare secondary hardening and low temper with cryo. The results (reference is my graduate thesis 1999 Munich University of Applied Sciences) I found considerable higher edge stability with the samples that had low temper/cryo The material used at the time was ATS-34 all with the same charge and thus the same condition of austinization, but with different temper cycles. RGDS Roman

  • @christopherlaborde1670
    @christopherlaborde167024 күн бұрын

    What steel would you use for a saltwater work knife on a boat that keeps a great edge, and who heat treats it the way you like it?

  • @57HEMIviken
    @57HEMIviken4 ай бұрын

    K390 is without a doubt my favorite.

  • @DuhYaThink
    @DuhYaThinkАй бұрын

    I would trust Dr.Larrin’s data over blade hq. You do great work brother 👍🏻

  • @windowbreezes
    @windowbreezes4 ай бұрын

    ZDP!!! ...next episode, let's investigate the japanese steels... SLD Magic and DC33.3.3.something

  • @OGCAMG
    @OGCAMG4 ай бұрын

    My k390 leaf jumper serrated can cut through anything! Great video

  • @KnifeAddict23
    @KnifeAddict233 ай бұрын

    Hey big fan of the content. In your experience what is a good edge angle for overall work loads but still pretty slicey? Just starting out in sharpening and would really value your opinion

  • @mikafoxx2717

    @mikafoxx2717

    3 ай бұрын

    Probably 15 degrees per side is a good starting point. It depends somewhat on the steel. Higher toughness and hardness steels can hold a thinner edge. D2 not so much if you go any more acute. 15 is pretty safe and it's what Larrin (designer of magnacut) tests edge retention at.

  • @robertbarnum7541

    @robertbarnum7541

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mikafoxx2717 The Diamondblades of Knives of Alaska makes me curious with a 9 dps and 65-68 hrc.

  • @mikafoxx2717

    @mikafoxx2717

    2 ай бұрын

    @@robertbarnum7541 WOW. That's is impressive. They might be a chip fest for anything that isn't particularly soft, though. For cooking it sounds awesome.

  • @robertbarnum7541

    @robertbarnum7541

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mikafoxx2717 It's a crazy awesome steel, but she fell in love with its looks! How it cuts sealed the deal.

  • @WillEDC

    @WillEDC

    25 күн бұрын

    Secondary 15 with a 20 degree primary. But also if it’s a thick flat grind, that 15 degree will look silly. So also depends on the blade geometry. So if you had a chunky blade that was designed for durable work then a 20 degree is better but it’s like when companies make sport suv and you can try a thinner geometry and have a wide looking edge lol. But probably best to get a slicer geometry first and then work with that if slicing is your task. So summary it depends haha

  • @stroppystuff641
    @stroppystuff6414 ай бұрын

    Based steel preference. Especially for k390 and cru-wear. Absolutely killer steels.

  • @onewade1974
    @onewade19742 ай бұрын

    Looking at the Steel Hardness graph in the video, there are steels that have a much greater hardness range than most. Like Magnacut, S30v, 44c, and AEB-L. Could you do a video touching base on the what, why, and where for such a range. Thanks

  • @googlechicken
    @googlechicken3 ай бұрын

    I like D2 because it holds a good edge and is super rugged it’s a good choice for a bushcraft knife. It’s drawback is that it’s difficult to sharpen

  • @ElonaldTrusk
    @ElonaldTrusk4 ай бұрын

    After hearing how you describe cruwear, I think I'll try a dual grit finish at a low angle....

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    4 ай бұрын

    BANG let me know how it goes

  • @MWS67
    @MWS672 ай бұрын

    I like M390. Have a couple knives that are made of M390 and they are great. D2 is pretty good also. Easy to work with.

  • @SimplicityEDC
    @SimplicityEDC4 ай бұрын

    Great video! Do you have any experience with Artisan's AR-RPM9? Hearing mixed reviews.

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    Its not powdered metallurgy, its less edge retention than the steel its based on, 9cr18mov, but perhaps its higher toughness. Id say its a good replacement for the poorly heat treated Chinese d2. But when 9cr18mov is generally better and possibly cheaper... Why.

  • @SimplicityEDC

    @SimplicityEDC

    4 ай бұрын

    @@tacticalcenter8658 doesnt the PM part in AR-RPM9 stand for powdered metal?

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    @@SimplicityEDC and its been proven that is a lie.

  • @westpac6954
    @westpac69544 ай бұрын

    I have been sharpening traditional metal blades with whetstone for years. I have just started using knives with s30v for my pocket knife. I've read diamond stones work better for supersteels like s30v. Would you recommend a DMT coarse or fine stone to maintain a working/toothy edge? And would stropping afterwards be necessary? I do like to finish my kitchen knives on a 5000 grit stone with stropping for a polished edge.

  • @Leftyotism

    @Leftyotism

    3 ай бұрын

    I am not Mr. Neeves Sir, but in my humble opinion a simple DC4 stone would suffice. From Fällkniven. It's two sided and if you keep the edge fresh you usually only need the fine side and the leather sheath for stropping (stropping on that is optional in this context I guess). The DC4's fine side is plenty "rough" in my opinion for a toothy edge, on the DC4 the fine side is the industrial diamond one. Their CC4 has 2 ceramic sides, but the fine side is really smooth on that one.

  • @westpac6954

    @westpac6954

    3 ай бұрын

    @Leftyotism I hadnt heard of that one before. I was thinking maybe the DMT DC8.

  • @Leftyotism

    @Leftyotism

    3 ай бұрын

    I don't have that one, but it seems to be nice too, and better for the table too, since it's not pocket oriented. @@westpac6954

  • @Chillygilly88
    @Chillygilly883 ай бұрын

    Good stuff. I randomly just got into knives and not sure what to get. Im really stuck on the Benchmade 945 mini. What knife would you suggest for my first edc? I just got a Spyderco persistence ltw a few days ago not knowing anything. Just needed a knife and bought it at the store.

  • @Leftyotism

    @Leftyotism

    3 ай бұрын

    Wouldn't that Benchmade be your first edc?

  • @Chillygilly88

    @Chillygilly88

    3 ай бұрын

    I didn’t get the Benchmade. Stuck on it as in I really want it. But I ended up getting the delica k390

  • @Leftyotism

    @Leftyotism

    3 ай бұрын

    Aah I see now, thanks! @@Chillygilly88

  • @daw764
    @daw7644 ай бұрын

    Hey Jared, can you do a review of the Spyderco Lil Temperance in k390 please? I have a great hurricane story about this beast of a knife. Too much to text, but rest assure it is my new ultimate work knife. Thank you! …P.s. k390 is my favorite steel too! Great Video!

  • @dogoargentinoedc
    @dogoargentinoedc4 ай бұрын

    That Shiro in vanax ❤

  • @milrtp101
    @milrtp101Ай бұрын

    Nice Kato!

  • @kpfagerberg
    @kpfagerberg4 ай бұрын

    Thinking about getting my first manix 2 lightweight. There are a few Rex45 models left or should I go with magnacut? Want it more a hard use knife for housework

  • @glemglembear1277

    @glemglembear1277

    3 ай бұрын

    Definitely not an expert here, but one of the knives I've owned the longest in my collection is a PM2 with Rex45 and it is still crazy sharp after all these years. Haven't experienced a magnacut blade yet, but for me the Rex45 has held up beautifully. Cheers!

  • @Barney_Greenway
    @Barney_Greenway4 ай бұрын

    I have the Kizer Myst in Rex45. No idea about the heat treat. Very nice edge and it's already pretty much patinaed all over the blade 😄

  • @tacticalcenter8658

    @tacticalcenter8658

    4 ай бұрын

    Kizer ht all those steels very low. Its just marketing for them. They don't care about doing it right or you.

  • @scottnovak4303
    @scottnovak43034 ай бұрын

    Jared, I have Venev and KME stones. Which grit ratings are you referring to? Thanks!

  • @NeevesKnives

    @NeevesKnives

    4 ай бұрын

    diamond plate, with venev they use the frating, so you can just use the micron rating if you would like but i always refer to the usa standard of grit, like a regular diamond plate so same as kme stones, so 600 grit would be the 240 venev

  • @robertbarnum7541
    @robertbarnum75414 ай бұрын

    One of your best, the best? Primo Jared. You are singing our song.

  • @jusme8060
    @jusme80603 ай бұрын

    I personally prefer nitro v or k390 for folders. 52100 or cruwear for fixed blades. For toughness applications I like 8670

  • @kraftzion
    @kraftzion4 ай бұрын

    Lol, of the knives I own I have 3 that I carry in rotation. K390 endura, rex45 para2, cruwear millie. I like super crispy too.

  • @robertbarnum7541

    @robertbarnum7541

    2 ай бұрын

    I've got some great knives, and in the steels that Jared has mentioned, but the Stretch 2 in K390 just won't leave my pocket. Nor the Ladybug in K390 on my keychain.

  • @Warsmith_Honsou
    @Warsmith_Honsou3 ай бұрын

    I'm not sure if there was a similar video on the channel, but it would be great to make a rating of knife manufacturers who harden their knives better.

  • @robertbarnum7541

    @robertbarnum7541

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes. The heat treat is so important yet so hidden in the production science. The answer is to know the hrc. Also hard to find.