The compounding of pewter appeals to me more than most. The idea of being able to physically make yourself bigger and stronger with an invested pewter mind while also burning a non ferring pewter to allow you to use that strength to its fullest with the enhancement.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

*HULK SMASH!*

@lonsunokrogan

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut pretty much but with the grace of batman...

@danelarsen9184

3 жыл бұрын

@@lonsunokrogan BANE SMASH!

@lonsunokrogan

3 жыл бұрын

@@danelarsen9184 Exactly!

@tsinestexicthdauwraum9082

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Pewter Twinborn like Master Roshi

OMG the Michael Jackson 'e-hee' lol

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Saw the meme on cremposting and knew what I had to do.

Atium is already basically using an aimbot, Atium compounding is infinite health glitch

@thewhiskybowman

3 жыл бұрын

Technically gold compounding would be the infinite health glitch ;)

@merai4024

3 жыл бұрын

Atium compounding is not exactly health but more of keeping your spirit web intact... *i think.*

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Preventing change. Which is ironic given its origin.

@merai4024

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut thank you, it was a little confusing, also i just laughed mischievously to myself for about 90s when i realized the irony XD

@oneukum

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Why? It looks like Ruin and Preservation kind of pulled a practical joke on each other in those matters, like when Ruin made Lerasium the best possible hemalurgic spike.

This channel is under rated

@katokhaelan4881

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. This and the 17th Shard are my favorite Cosmere channels on YT

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys!

@carlsmith4568

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

"Can you spike youth out of someone" Asking the questions no one else is.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, if you're stabbing someone anyway...

Last week we were memeing with my friends that a fortune compounder, when fighting, would just stand still and wait for a random meteor to kill his enemies. That or something like Domino in Deadpool 2.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I always think of Uncle Gladstone in the new Ducktales.

Zinc would be interesting. I think there's a WoB somewhere saying zinc compounding has the potential harmful effect of "an infinite moment of thought," meaning you accidentally flare it too much and get yourself stuck in your own head, or at least that's what it would seem like. But hey, more time to think about homework, yay!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

An "Oh God, it's full of stars" moment but in your own head. Sounds cool!

@The_Natalist

2 ай бұрын

If you could mix it with (stores speed) and (fast time bubble), it would be pretty broken

Compounding is my favourite cosmere mechanic. It's exciting when you figure it out on its own, even more so when you think about the implications for later Mistborn entries, and positively mind melting when you put it in the context of 'hacking' other Investiture. Great video, this stuff always puts a smile on my dial.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

The more you realize the scope of the Cosmere, the crazier it becomes.

I've always been fascinated by compounding iron. Just how heavy could you make yourself? Also, Sanderson has shown that there is conservation of momentum (at least to a degree) with feruchemical iron, so if you compounded iron to make yourself incredibly heavy, broke into a sprint, jumped, and immediately started storing weight, you should accelerate to incredible speeds. You also get proportionally stronger as you tap weight to support and move normally with the additional weight, so in a way it would be a bit like tapping strength as well, without the physical increase in size. Imagine the potential force behind a punch backed with compounded iron. I'd imagine a 1000lb fist does not need to be moving fast at all to cause some serious damage. And what would an extra 500lbs on your back be when you can walk just fine already weighing thousands of pounds? And finally, what if you REALLY pushed it. If you really compounded iron, could you generate your own gravitational field? I'd imagine there being some serious potential for something like that to be used by a scadrian fabrial in the space age.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure there's an upper bound as to how much weight you could tap, similar to steel. Though it totally makes sense for creating artificial gravity!

@telekinesys7025

3 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, the strength increase stops at some point. So after that, you'd just crush yourself.

@NataliaPunko

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like there is an upper bound as to how much stronger your muscles can get before it becomes impossible for them with their surface area as it is to support your weight.... like, your muscles can't, even while enchanced, survive tons upon tons of weight. It must stop at some point, so I believe an iron compounder can pretty much kill himself while tapping weight

@JClemeng

3 жыл бұрын

@@NataliaPunko the fourth mistborn book disagrees

@sebastiancoe4708

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was pretty clear that the extra feruchemical weight didn't allow users to generate more force from their movements. Whenever Wax had to break through a wall, he had to tap iron and let himself fall on it. In other words, the added mass did not contribute to the force of his strikes, he had to rely on gravity. The additional strength from tapping iron seems to only allow the user to maintain their normal capabilities. So regardless of whether someone is tapping or filling iron, or doing neither, they could never withstand an additional 500lbs on their back

Thanks for finally making it "make sense" as you've done with all magic systems! Very well done, can't wait for more!!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm happy it helped!

Based on how much I eat, I think the most useful compounding for me would be Bendalloy. Never having to eat or drink again? Plus being a Slider? Yes please! Though I’d probably end up being the death of all eating contests... 🤣

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

With compounded bendalloy, would you *ever* need to poop?

@duathhadron5040

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut I think there was a WoB on that where he said yes, you would. But couple that with the Surge of Abrasion and you’d never need to wipe 🤣

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

The elusive ghost poops!

@dennycote6339

3 жыл бұрын

Adolin Kohlins shardplate approves this message.

@duathhadron5040

3 жыл бұрын

@@dennycote6339 you mean his Shatplate? Lol

I think that compounding weight would be the most interesting/fun for a character to be capable of.

@merai4024

3 жыл бұрын

*Proceeds to experiment leading to the creation of a black hole*

@God-nw9qd

3 жыл бұрын

@@merai4024 I never thought about that possibility, maybe a shard has enough investiture to pull it off, or maybe they could do it in the way vin gave elend "phantom" metals

@somekidwithaphone3345

3 жыл бұрын

In the fourth mistborn book a character named miles has compounded gold

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, you'd need a crazy amount of investiture to pull that off.

What would happen with compounded nicrosil? Who knows what could happen if you compounded a divine breath or something like that, maybe you could make an insane power source. Other weird ones are things like identity and connection,. Could you become super connected and entangled with someone else's consciousness to the point where you're almost like a single entity, and what could powerful identity even do?

@ricardonunez3172

3 жыл бұрын

that last bit gives me Oathpact vibes

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Compounding nicrosil would just make you *more* of a feruchemist. Maybe you'd be able to store other attributes more effectively?

@TheRedWizard

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut but what if a feruchemist used hemalurgy to steal a divine breath or other magic, could they then store that in a metalmind?

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I think so!

@dennycote6339

3 жыл бұрын

I think this might be how the shards get back together

Awww mann! I just found this channel like a week ago and have already consumed all the videos! You’re far and away the best, most in-depth yet still understandable Cosmere scholar on KZread! Keep up the good work man!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Since W&W 1 I'm being genuinely scare of a gold twin born compounding.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Totally valid fear.

I love that as many times as I've read all the cosmere books I still learn something from these videos.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I love that too!

Compounding gold would be awesome. You are almost unkillable at that point. No more medical bills due to being immune to headshots, diseases, etc.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

And potentially still less expensive than insurance!

@ethanellefson1467

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut exactly; even when you need to literally burn gold, it's still cheaper than medical insurance!

@imahumanperson7045

10 ай бұрын

its crazy that eating gold for breakfast is cheaper than american health care

Shoutout to plants, the original compounders! Photosynthesis and respiration work a bit like feruchemy and allomancy

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Make your own food and then burn it!

@ginge641

2 жыл бұрын

Well, not quite. It's more like they're both Feruchemy and Photosynthesis is storing while Respiration is tapping.

I started writing fanfic about a Chromium Compounder. Just because you’re getting lots more Fortune doesn’t mean it’s painless or easy.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Intriguing...

@dennycote6339

3 жыл бұрын

Where?

@LordOfAllusion

3 жыл бұрын

@@dennycote6339 just on my own. I don’t put it up anywhere. It takes place in the wake of a civil war in the Basin where the Roughs have gained independence largely due to cutting off the Northern rails.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome!

@LordOfAllusion

3 жыл бұрын

One thing I wonder about though, can one slowly compound Chromium the way one does Gold? Or is it like Aluminum or Duralumin where it’s gone in a flash? For my story’s purposes I assume you can do slow burns for prolonged luck.

Are you just the Coppermind incarnate? Because these videos are amazing! I am always amazed at the level of detail and thought put into these videos. You also have a way of explaining things that makes it easy to understand. Really great work, keep it up!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I've spent a *lot* of time on the Coppermind doing research. I'm glad they're helpful!

Compound Bronze for a perpetual adrenaline high and natural restoration to the point of always feeling well rested

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I would get SO MUCH DONE if I never needed to sleep.

Assuming sufficient supplies, Atium, love me some immortality. If I have to get some myself, then Zinc for the practical applications of near infinite mental processesing, or Chromium, because luck is good, probably.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Compounded zinc: brain go brr!

Miles had it good, I wouldn't mind a couple hundred lives.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I see what you did there.

1) This channel is incredible I'm so glad I found it, this is much easier to understand then scrolling through the coppermind, although I do already know lots about mistborn and stormlight its great to learn about other book magic systems without having to read them all. 2) Zinc compounding would be fun you'd basically be able to 'freeze time', without moving, and also this paired with compounding steel would be so op, because you could go hella fast but then have your brain keeping up with how fast you are going.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

1) Thanks! 2) Steel must have some sort of mental speed effect, or else you'd smash through a wall. Combined with zinc you'd probably be able to plan out your route more than just reflex.

Compounding has always confused me; thanks for this!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Thanks! You do a great job explaining the magic systems of the Cosmere! I needed a compounding refresher. It will be interesting to see how Brandon uses it in the future, there are so many possibilities

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

The potential applications of compounding are insane. Thanks!

Great analogy. I dig it.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

love the video great work as usale tho i would like to know what you are thinking of working on next

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I'm planning on finally making a channel trailer for my next video, and after that I'll go into recommended reading order.

Thank you so much for this video! Compounding was one thing that never made sense to me even with reading the books and copper mind articles.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I was always confused about it too! That's honestly one of the main reasons I made it!

Compounding copper would result in the memory being "Copy and paste" rather than "Cut and paste"

@The_Natalist

2 ай бұрын

Would probably inprove recall as well (recall gets degraded each time you use it)

@TheCosmerenaut

Ай бұрын

I can't wait for Brandon to actually canonize it.

As always a great video!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

I really appreciate this vid because I had such a hard time understanding how compounding worked I feel like it was one of the few things that wasn't explained well enough in the books

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

This was one I was really looking forward to making, simply because I was always so confused.

Good breakdown!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

A lot of people have said compounding iron would be good, but not a lot of people seem to have thought about just how much extra power weight manipulation would give to Pulling on metals. Imagine if an iron compounder used their body to destroy an entire structure, reducing their weight to almost nothing to fly into a building at insane speed and then emptying their metalmind at the last moment to destroy whoever it hit entirely, or being able to summon any metallic object to themselves, regardless of weight.

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

Makes pushing and pulling on things much scarier, true.

@wilhufftarkin5852

2 ай бұрын

Since your bodys volume doesnt change, you cpuld theoreticly reduce your weight to the point that ypur bodies density is that of air. Then you can "swim" in air, regulating height by changing your vodies weight and thus density.

I've said it before, I'll say it again: A con artist compounding Duralumin is one of the scariest concepts out there.

@TheCosmerenaut

Ай бұрын

We kind of see that in Rhythm of War, and it's impressive.

Great stuff Steve. More videos please. Double gold all day.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Working on it!

I'd most enjoy the first one you mentioned, steel. Gimme that super speed!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Just be careful of friction!

I love this channel

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

And this channel loves you, Carl.

I just finished re-reading Mistborn (book 1 - going to make my way through the series again), and came back to rewatch this so I could better understand. :) Super insightful! Thanks Steve!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

For you Adam, anything. Seriously, stop living so far away.

@adamrbuchanan

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut I think you mean *you* should stop living so far away. 😂

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

*whips out Uno Reverse card*

Compounding is such a dope concept its my favorite aspect of Era 2

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

It's gonna get crazy once we get to the space age.

aeon EHe ahahahahahah I'm dying. That was spot on

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you!

What a copper compounder could do? Greetings from Argentina! Excelent video!

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

We haven't gotten official confirmation as to what copper compounding does, but my theory is that it duplicates the original memory. I doubt the Sovereign would have let that coppermind go that we see in Bands of Mourning otherwise. Hello to Argentina! Awesome!

I have an idea for a possible version of hacking with Surgebinding and Feruchemy. If you use the surge of gravitation to increase the weight of a feruchemist, do you think that they would then be able to store that weight? If so, you could essentially turn stormlight into a feruchemical iron charge. You might also be able to use this to combat a Windrunner or Skybreaker who is trying to lash you by storing all that weight into an ironmind so you're weightless in whatever direction they lash you to. I don't know for sure if it works like that, but it would be cool if it did.

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

That makes sense to me!

Honestly a steel twinborn might just be the scariest there is. Like you're basically dealing with the flash that can also launch metal at you stupidly fast. Gold twinborns, as we may or may not have seen, are also super freaky.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'll really excited to see a steel twinborn on screen.

@Somerandom1922

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut The other type that would be terrifying is a pewter twinborn. They'd essentially be the hulk right? like, they have all of the strength increase they want from their ferruchemy, while reinforcing their bones, making them faster and heal faster from the allomancy.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

There must be a functional limitation as to how massive a pewter compounder could get, but yeah basically Professor Hulk.

@Somerandom1922

3 жыл бұрын

​@@TheCosmerenaut Well we know from Sazed's perspective in The Well of Ascension that as he draws more and more strength from pewter his body gets thicker and thicker and he starts to run into issues moving properly. So he probably got close to the limit while maintaining good mobility. If we want to try power-scaling him, I'd have to guess he was somewhere above MCU Spiderman's level of strength (remember he casually caught a car in civil war and lifted that huge air-con thingy in homecoming) Although being able to burn allomantic pewter at the same time would be wild because you would have more strength than an equivalent pewter ferring, but also be much faster, much more durable and much faster healing. It'd be like Captain America was a pewter ferring.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

And we all know how I feel about Captain America.

First, a great video. Secondly, I play with my friends in the RPG Mistborn and I wonder if it is possible to allomoantically steal someone else's metals (with a leech?), And then, using the feruchemian personality, to take those metals and burn them? To gain awake strength (as MistBorn or hemalurgy?)

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Since the metals are physically burned, the only way to steal them would probably to actually take the metals themselves somehow. *Induce vomiting.*

@emielregis1540

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut take the quality of their metals ... you mean, literally tearing the enemy apart and ripping the metals out of his stomach ... so i thought about it, but it's such a waste of allomancers. inquisitors lead 'beyond' for wasted spikes.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, going Temple of Doom on them would work too.

I think double steel is the most interesting combination to me - you'd basically become the flash, with a bonus ability to fly

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

But it doesn't make you immune to the air friction of going that fast, so you might just end up incinerating yourself.

@justinneyman9331

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut technically that would apply to anybody using speed regardless, bleeder didn't have any issues going crazy fast within the atmosphere, so i think it does grant you a lessened coefficient of friction or something similar

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Brandon says otherwise: wob.coppermind.net/events/93/#e2695

@justinneyman9331

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Ahh, interesting... Good to know!

It’ll be interesting to see if unkeyed feruchemy flakes will become a thing in the future of Scadrial. Metal flakes that have been invested with a tiny bit of unkeyed feruchemical power, enough to overwrite their effect when burned, made for mistings to gain feruchemical abilities of their metal.

@TheCosmerenaut

4 ай бұрын

FASCINATING

My simple fan theory for compounding copper is that it could be that your memories just become much clearer and maybe even hallucinatory (imagine taping your knowledge of chemistry and finding yourself mentally back in high school chemistry). My crazy fan theory for copper compounding is that you end up gaining Preservation or Harmony's memories instead of your own.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Ooh, I like those!

@lucasriddle3431

3 жыл бұрын

A Shard's "memories" is a hard thing to define. The Shard itself, which is everything and therefore you could eventually use it to know everything (though it would be difficult due to odds if the selected memories are random)? The memories of the Shard's bearer? Does that include past bearers? What would it be like to see through the perceptions of a Shard? Does it include the ability to interpret those perceptions, atium-style? I'm picking this apart, but it's because I really like it.

@camerongrow6426

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasriddle3431 Those are all cool things I didn't think about. I'd say it'd be the current shard bearer's memories, selected based on the subject the Archivist is looking for. So if I try to access knowledge of chemistry I might find a lot more there then normal. If I try to tap something more personal like my mother's face or my email password, I might get two very different responses, one for me and one from the shard back when they were mortal. Post-ascension Shard memories would be hard to process given the near omniscience being shoved into the brain. Getting shard memories sounds like a really awesome concept I want to see happen.

@lucasriddle3431

3 жыл бұрын

@@camerongrow6426 I agree, it's pretty cool (however you spin it)

@NataliaPunko

3 жыл бұрын

I always imagine copper Compounding like being able to get... the memory stored in that Coppermind reappearing in your head over and over again. It's like... the memory is not fading as far as you keep compounding it, but after you stop it sort of stays how it is without reappearing and starts decaying, as memories usually do. Now, could that be useful? The thing with compounding is, you can put the gained amount of an attribute into a new(probably, bigger) metalmind... so you can store the things you have compounded for yourself. Well, think about this: if, according to my view on it, copper Compounding makes the stored memories constantly renew in your head, then you pick up some other piece of copper and begin filling it with said memories. And then you pick up an another one. And again. And again, and so on. So, to summ up: I think copper compounding can actually help you create copies of your original memories, effectively making you able to tap --and, if needed, burn-- your copperminds for an infinite amount of stored Memories.

Also, Tin Compounding is somehow the only one idea of the base 16 which didn't get mentioned in this comment section so far... so, let's talk about it a bit. A double Tin Twinborn would easily be able to store some senses that Allomantic Tin provides: if your hearing is what bothers you of all 5 emotions, then you can make it as dull as that of a normal person. Now, it doesn't work that way with sight, but you can still just do the Spook spectacle-famric trick with a less thicc piece of clothing, if it really gets to you. Now, imagine being able to compound ANY of the 5 senses, going ZOOM anytime you wish, or even tapping your coumpounded sight tinminds while burning allomancy to both become a telescope AND be able to see in the dark more easily. Wow. And I'm not even talking about becoming a better --more controlled-- version of an allomantic tin savant. I mean, it looks like x2tin is an overly underrated combination, but it's also any Tineye's dream... being able to control the senses you get by the most part.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Removing the need to selectively ignore overwhelming senses would be invaluable to any Tineye.

Imagine compounding Investiture. You could use unkeyed metalminds to receive an initial burst of power which you can then compound to become that type of metalborn for as long as you have metal. Imagine compounding Stormlight. Or compounding the ability to burn pewter to have infinite 8x strength instead of the usual 2x or 3x while flaring. I think that would allow people to reach the levels of power of the ancient mistborn and it might even be possible to go even further than the savantism we've seen so far.

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

Hacking investiture in any way is potentially game breaking. Compounding is just the first version we've seen.

Playing a Mistborn D&D campaign and my plan is to compound chromium. Let’s hope we survive that long.

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully you live up to your username, LuckyNick!

For everyday use I would compound zinc, as I could both influence people and think much faster, both of which I could definitely get used to.

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Mental speed has more applications than people think.

@gabrielhereth8233

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut yes, many more, I would go into detail if I wasn’t so tired. But I would enjoy discussing it sometime.

Well, this got me thinking. Different amounts of investiture produce different results right? that is why some allomancers are stronger than others, in raw terms, or why a certain someone using a certain somethings can suddenly do feats of allomancy on orders of magnitude greater than anything else. I imagine for example that the stormfather's investiture is much greater than other spren's, so thats why bondsmiths have powers on higher scales than other orders ..so compunding aluminum may be how the bands of mourning where made no? incredible allomantic potency by investiture increase

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

That makes sense. I just figured that Kelsier made himself the strongest allomancer and feruchemist he could (however he managed that), plus compounding.

Another great explanation video Steve! Thanks for your hard work on my behalf, since I don't have the smallest Shard of time to research on my own. Question for you: What would happen if a Feruchemist stored and saved a bunch of metalminds, and had his imprint on them, but was then killed, say by Knightblood, destroying him in all realms? Would that make his metalminds open for anyone to use? Or would there be some kind of decay for that stored power since it seems to be tied to the individual? Thanks!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I think the feruchemist's identity would still be there, even if Nightblood ate them. Individuals killed by Nightblood are still remembered, still acknowledged to have existed, so the evidence of that existence should still be there. And as far as we know, feruchemical charges don't experience anything like hemalurgic decay (see the Bands of Mourning) so they'd probably just stay invested until they started to physically deteriorate.

Idk, maybe compounded copper could be useful. Like, if you burn a coppermind, you gain a photographic recollection of all the memories in that coppermind.

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

The leading theory is that compounding copper duplicates the memories contained in the coppermind, so you can either store the same memory in multiple metalminds, or just be able to have the memory while it's also stored.

I want Cadmium compounding, just so I never have to worry about drowning or suffocation (since I can't really swim). It also allows for some diving though pressure is still an issue I guess. And because it's one that no-one else is picking. Also I guess, since you can fill your lungs (or is it just blood?) with oxygen, then you'd be really good at mouth-to-mouth resuscitation? Which is somewhat niche, but cool.

@ethanellefson1467

3 жыл бұрын

I bet you'd be able to go scuba diving without any equipment in some really cool places!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

It eliminates the need to breathe entirely, so I assume it directly oxygenates the blood. As a fellow poor swimmer (I don't swim, I just actively try to prevent drowning) I can definitely see the appeal. And underwater spelunking without fear of running out of air would be DOPE.

@NataliaPunko

3 жыл бұрын

Finally, someone mentioning Cadmium feruchemy in this comment section

@lucasriddle3431

3 жыл бұрын

@@NataliaPunko That's exactly why I picked it; it's one of the very niche ones

@NataliaPunko

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasriddle3431 that's why I picked up tin

Gold. GOLD. I could throw myself down the stairs with no consequences! It's all the perks of Edgedancing (minus the no friction) but without having to promise anything!

@TheCosmerenaut

6 ай бұрын

Double gold is OP. Just ask Miles.

I want to say steel compounding but I've already got a fear of heights so I'll go in the other direction and say Zinc so I can overthink things in milliseconds rather than weeks, or Brass so I can calm others down and stay cozy too.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, overthinking sped up is hilarious!

Constant compounding of copper is interesting. It's not like you get back more memory. I think it just gives you that memory permanently. Like you store all your memories in a coppermind, and then you burn it to have an eidetic memory

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I've been figuring it duplicates it, so pretty similar.

wax hax?

@karlwilker579

3 жыл бұрын

Wayne Gain?

@grahamrichard6354

3 жыл бұрын

@@karlwilker579 Lord ruler cooler?

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Steris embarris?

@karlwilker579

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Marasi heresy?

@grahamrichard6354

3 жыл бұрын

sazed praised?

I was wondering, if someone were to eat a specific food and then store it in a bendalloy mind and then compound it, would the specific food (it's calories and nutrients anyway) be duplicated, or would something else happen? If this theory is true, then copper compounding could potentially duplicate memories, allowing you to have multiple sets that you can either use to refresh your own memory of that specific subject, or you could place them in an unsealed metalmind for someone else to tap.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's exactly what happens in both counts. I'm excited to eventually get confirmation!

I love your videos.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@ethanellefson1467

3 жыл бұрын

A simple, yet elegant post that describes what every human being should feel once they have found this channel.

I’ve always been interested in both Aluminum and Duralumin, so it would be cool to see what effects compounding would bring

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how useful compounded aluminum would be, but duralumin would be nuts!

Pewter would be nuts!

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

*MUSCLES!!!*

What if you were to lets say compound Steel to get a super speed boost but at the same time burn duralumin to strenghten the allomantic flow of investiture into the feruchemical steelmind? Like having the generator wired up to the crank flash light but then have the generator overridden and connected directly to a powerplant

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

You would probably go *ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!* But seriously, compounding plus duralumin would just be insane no matter what metal you're using.

@ChBrahm

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Imagine a duralumin compunding of gold you could probably jump into ~the~ a sun and survive

Gold compounder definitely I would love that

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

Two Health Bars!

@markipliergaming5025

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut I wonder if storing strength makes it easier to bulk up again. Imagine storing strength and bulking back up, when you stop storing your natural muscle mass would be doubled, potentially higher than regularly possible?

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

It's like altitude training!

Id like to compound trellium/bavadinium; because the effects are unknown.

I like to think that compounding copper would make those memories much more vivid, or more likely to linger in your mind. Like how you remember some things much better than others and some memories are much more important than others. It would be cool if compounding copper would be able to make memories like what cereal you ate last for years and stay front of mind. Identity could just make your sense of self much stronger. Make you more you, if that makes any sense. I like to think that compounding anything could do something, even if I'm not sure what it is.

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Compounding anything would increase the latent investiture in the system, so it's bound to do something!

What I’m curious about is what would happen if a Mistborn tried to Burn an Unkeyed Metalmind? It wouldn’t Compound but could they access the Feruchemical attribute?

@jacks1368

3 жыл бұрын

Presumably so, since the feruchemical aspect of the metal overrides the normal effect. If burning steel normally sends a "Request: Push" signal to Preservation, Feruchemical steel would send "Request: -Push- Speed" instead.

@HSuper_Lee

3 жыл бұрын

They would get a large burst of the feruchemical attribute over the time it takes to burn the metal rather than the allomantic effect.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Yup! Because an unkeyed metalmind doesn't have interfering identity, so as long as you can burn it, you'd get the feruchemical attribute!

@NataliaPunko

3 жыл бұрын

I don't see why it wouldn't compound. For compounding you just need the ability to burn a metalmind you can access.

@HSuper_Lee

3 жыл бұрын

It would compound. You'd end up with more of the feruchemical attribute than was initially stored. The allomancer just wouldn't be able to then store the excess, so they'd only have that big burst while burning and wouldn't be able to regulate it. But there would be a net gain in power.

I would compound atium, because immortality, if any existed. out of normal metals though definitely bronze. giving myself what would essentially amounts to more time to be alive as well as meaning I'm never tired again? definitely extremely useful in the modern era. (now I know how Brandon writes so fast; there was no bendalloy, just insomnia)

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

With a baby that wakes up every morning before 6:00 compounded bronze is at the top of my list.

So what if I was twinborn, and both of my metals where pewter. Say I have two metal minds with stored strength in them, I burn one and get the compounded strength, but could I then tap the 2nd one to increase my muscle mass? and assuming I can is there a certain oder of operations I should do? should I tap the metal mind first to increase size and then burn the compounded metal for the most efficiency?

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

I think increasing muscle mass first and then burning to increase proportional strength would be your best bet.

I'd love to see a zinc compounder as a villain

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Always 3,487 steps ahead.

If I recall correctly smuggling Stormlight off of Roshar is pretty desirable by some. One would think that the vehicle for Stormlight, at least without a bonded Spren, is a Rosharian gem. Easy enough to come by, per say, but compared to something like breaths which just inherently live in you that'd be easier to move. Breaths cant be transferred in the same way, though, as we know. Alumancy is probably the easiest because the metals exist on other planets so you don't really need to bring anything, but are restricted to the genealogy of the user. It seems that Stormlight is the best because its closest to a "fuel" without the user having particular requirements, using a fabrial or similar device.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely. I don't think it even has to be transported in a gemstone from Roshar. Just as metals available on other planets would still function with allomancy, any gem of the right color/chemical makeup should be able to hold stormlight. And once you get over the difficulty of converting it, stormlight batteries are going to run everything.

@dracorim6370

3 жыл бұрын

The big problem that people in the Cosmere are trying to overcome with Stormlight is taking it off world because Investiture generally gets stuck to a certain location in this case Roshar so it literally gets harder and harder to move Stormlight as you try to go off world with it.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how much Connection stormlight itself has to Roshar, so it might not be difficult to take off world at all. More sentient spren, Splinters, or Cognitive Shadows works definitely have a harder time.

@dracorim6370

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut In Rhythm of War a certain individual explains to Shallan that the problem for them in taking Stormlight to Scadrial and Nalthis and presumably other planets in the Cosmere is the fact that Investiture is hard to remove from the land that it came from. We find out a lot of other things in that chapter and in the book as well that the exchange is easy to forget but it is telling.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, thanks for the reminder!

Dunno about what compunding ability i want but ihave to wonder what happens to the innate investiture of a feruchemist if their metal minds are taken and burnt. if a piece of their "soul" is whats stored in the metalmind, what happens to that unaccessible investiture after the metalmind no longer exists?

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Dissipates back into the universe. It wouldn't be like they're missing a chunk of their soul; feruchemy isn't like putting a tool into a safe until you need it, but rather like pulling water out of a river. If the water spills out after you draw it, the river keeps flowing unchanged.

If you compounded enough Connection could you steal magical abilities from other people or gain location specific magic?

@jacks1368

3 жыл бұрын

The first one would only work if there was a system somewhere that relied on connections to other people. Which isn't outside the realm of possibility; sounds like something Devotion might have cooked up if she were whole instead of thrown into a blender with Dominion and the resulting Shard-soup spilled all over Sel.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Compounded Connection might actually allow an Elantrian or Forger to use Selish magic off world!

Gold. No contest. I would always be able to heal myself as long as I have some gold on me.

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Gets weird when you start swallowing your rings though Meredith.

I think with Compounding and Twinborn Brandon brought the Power Scale really nicely back into a more managable ammount. Especially giving allomatic gold and aluminium/duralumin a lot more value. I love the Idea of Compounding even though I feel like it turned out a bit strong. Compared to the other magic systems, a fullborn or even a twinborn with the right combination can go ham (no not this ham) with the Power Level. I wonder how that will affect the cosmere once we see major crossover. I mean a Steel Twinborn could get extremely fast so I wonder how could even stop them.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

It's compounding is pretty ridiculously powerful, but considering what we saw at the end of Rhythm of War it's necessarily any crazier than a full-blown Bondsmith.

@wenber2990

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Havent read that one yet but I heared it gets pretty ridiculous. Looning forward to reach RoW in my reread of the books. Have a good one. I love your content.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm excited for you to get to RoW!

I'm not writing a comment about my favourite twinborn Compounding combination(which is double-electrum, by the way), but I have a theory and I think it can immitate compounding in a certain way. Now, what if a Pinnacle gets affected by emotional allomancy while storing? I mean, it should definitely be possible to affect a Pinnacle, either helping him with storing Determination or the other way around by Soothing/Rioting Determination and Depression.... if it really works this way then paying some street rioter kids would be more than worth the theoretically infinite supply of Determination without the need of constantly buying new electrumminds... Man, this might turn out to be more overpowered for this attribute than actual Compounding, considering the costs for electrum and soothing/rioting.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I... I don't see a reason why that wouldn't work. It probably wouldn't be as effective as strict compounding, but it would definitely up the attribute stored.

Iron compounding. My allomantic yanks would be insane. Could probably rip hemalurgic spikes right out of people, especially if I could store my iron allomancy in an ironmind and tap it for a very big burst.

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

There is a way to increase allomantic power with feruchemy, but we have no idea how it's done. So far only the Lord Ruler has been seen doing it.

I've been really curious since the first ars arcanum of wax and wayne: when Khriss drew connections between twinborn and the radiant surges, what does that mean for the radiants? Like specifically: twinborn with matching metals can compound, but even the ones who can't compound have distinct advantages in some circumstances. Do the radiant surges work the same way, with some combinations being "more compatible" than others? Or because each surge can only combine with 2 others, are they always guaranteed to have the "compounding" equivalent? We have evidence of a compounding equivalent with windrunners, i think, given that one of the lashings seems to be a mixture of the other two (in my eyes). What about elsecallers? Or lightweavers? Heck, edgedancers?!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

The similarities with Twinborn and Radiant surges are the appearance of various Resonances, independent of whatever the powers are. The Resonance for Windrunners is an abundance of squires; Lightweavers have Shallan's mnemonic thing; Wax's ability to do his little steel bubble was supposed to be his Resonance, but Brandon backtracked on that. It all comes down to the fact that investiture has those specific frequencies, and when two frequencies overlap, there is constructive and destructive interference in the waveforms. So each pair of powers interacting could theoretically have their own unique Resonance.

Definitely compounded Duralumin!

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

You could pull off some *crazy* stuff with that.

With regards your comment about burning the feruchemical steel not also giving the allomantic version of the power, didn't Miles talk about seeing his gold "ghost" when he was burning the gold for compounding? It's been a while since I last read Alloy of Law so I could be misremembering the context for that, and maybe something else was going on.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure that was him burning plain ol' gold, without a feruchemical store. IIRC he didn't need to see his gold shadows but specifically would choose to for the insight.

@thewhiskybowman

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut I really need to reread it, it's been too long to remember exactly what was going on there for me.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Just got to that point rereading, and he burns plain old gold.

@thewhiskybowman

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Good to know, thanks.

I'm most interested in the effects of identity and connection when pared with other magic systems

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Identity, Fortune, Connection; there's some crazy things we haven't even begun to see.

@lorddenithal

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut spoiler.... Do you think dalinar could steal the bond a mistborn has with their powers, or breaths from an awakener, or even Taravangian's bond with odium? What about an elantrians connection to elantris?

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

More likely it would be a Mistborn's connection to Preservation; an Awakener's Breath I think has more to do with Identity so I'm not sure a Bondsmith would be able to mess with that; considering the amount of investiture he'd have to fight against , I doubt Dalinar could pull of something like severing Connection between a vessel and a shard; an Elantrian's Connection to Elantris though? Absolutely.

I know this is late but I have to ask, what about compounding with hemalurgy. Like what if an allomancer burned a strength charge iron spike or what would happen if a spike was used as a mine before someone tried to use it in hemalurgy.

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

If a spike was used as a metalmind before being used in Hemalurgy, I would assume hemalurgic charge would be smaller. And then if it was burned, weird things would happen - basically splicing the spiritual DNA of the hemalurgic source with that of the allomancer.

What would happen if an invested metalmind was made into the alloy version of the metal, like a coppermind into brass?

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

The investiture would still be there, but would no longer be accessible.

Chromium compounded novella would be FUN

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

The luckiest man in the world!

Electrum. I could have INFINITE Determination hehe

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

*DO ALL THE THINGS!*

Could compounded aluminum perhaps burn out your ability to be a ferring , misting or both?

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

I think compounded aluminum would do almost the opposite: solidifying your identity so nothing could alter it.

Oddly enough I think Duralumin might be one of the most oddly useful for certain professions. Or hacking magic systems. Having the ability to store and use huge amounts of connection would almost certainly allow you to effectively become native to a certain location. Tap enough connection to become Selish for instance and you may become able to access any and all of the arts there at different times. But being able to connect to a location would be useful for more mundane things like trading or diplomacy. If I had to choose however it would be Iron. Relatively total control over your weight would be good and overcomes the biggest limitations on a Lurcher like it does for Wax as a Coinshot. And IF (big if) you can survive increasing your mass enough you may just have figured out a way to produce time dilation. Not sure if this is a good thing but it would be fascinating to see.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Connection Compounding could be completely crazy. I wonder how selective you could be though, like if you're on Sel but wanted to bring a Rosharan spren or something. I don't think it would be feasible to compound enough iron to slow down time. At least, not if you liked anyone in your immediate vicinity.

I was always under the impression that compounding also made your allomantic abilities much stronger for example if you compounded steel could you move at super speeds but also throw out duralium level steel pushes?

@TheCosmerenaut

Жыл бұрын

Nope, it rekeys the investiture to the other ability. There must be some way to compound allomantic abilities though, because The Lord Ruler was able to do superpowered soothing over extended periods without duralumin. We haven't gotten any confirmation as to how that is done though.

@Tony-ey5ct

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut thanks for the response man

How much steel do I need to compound to turn into a black hole?

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Enough steel that would in itself be a black hole.

i think id like chromium because compounded luck would (theoretically) see me through so many situations. someone swinging a sword- oops they missed a coin less than a centimetre away trying to impale me - oops it missed my mum finding out i didnt do my homework- she forgets other than that id think atium of i can burn for instant health, id become undying couldnt you tecnically just store sense of pain in tin and constantly burn atium to become the ultimate fighting mahcine

@TheCosmerenaut

2 жыл бұрын

I do think tin has some funky applications that we haven't thought of yet: storing pain, balance, body awareness, even more magical senses like an Awakener's life sense, or maybe even hearing subtleties with bronze!

I think despite the far larger practical application to real life of Zinc, Chromium, Bronze, or Gold, if I had a choice I'd have to choose Steel Compounder. Imma be the Feruchemical Flash

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Barry Alloman!

Compounding fortune sounds awesome ngl

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

At least we'd be able to see more of how Fortune works!

@lucasriddle3431

3 жыл бұрын

The main problem with fortune compounding is we don't quite know what fortune does, and how it works. So it might not be purely luck, and therefore might not be as good as you think.

@wwellthemage8426

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucasriddle3431 calling it luck for all we know might be a misnomer We know hoid uses it to arrive where he needs to be but that doesnt really sound like its luck based as that just doesnt make much sense

@lucasriddle3431

3 жыл бұрын

​@@wwellthemage8426 Exactly. It could be destiny (which sort of makes sense in the Hoid sense). It could be luck of some sort (probably literally interpreted as exerting your Intent as pressure on the Web of Possible Futures of the Spiritual Realm). Maybe Fortune is literally money, and tapping it makes you rich, and compounding it makes you infinitely rich :P

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Whatever it is, it sounds dope.

1. Is compounding effected in any way by the amount of Feruchemical attribute stored in the burnt metal? i.e. does it make a difference if I burn a metal mind storing 10 hours worth of attributes vs 100 hours worth the attribute? Another way to ask this question is- is compounding additive or multiplicative? In case it's latter then we can exponentially increase an attribute by burning a small amount of metal mind, store the attribute in another small metal mind, burn that and so on and so forth. This way one can obtain REALLY high yield out of small amount of metal. 2. Related to pure Allomancy, does strength of Allomancy changes the consumption of metal? We know that flaring a metal will increase metal consumption. But does Elend, who's Allomantic powers are stronger than, say Vin, burn metal faster?

@dracorim6370

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah Compounding is directly affected by the amount in the burnt metal but it's a bit pointless as you can easily catch up. Compounding is multiplicative from what we have seen which is why it's so overpowered. For Allomancy, given what we know weaker Allomancers just waste a decent amount of the Allomantic power while Elend is able to squeeze out way more juice.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

1. Because the feruchemical store rewrites the investiture signal of the metal, I don't think a larger amount of feruchemical attribute would have any significant effect on the amount of power released while compounding. The multiplicative nature of it is what allows the exponential and functionally infinite capacity. 2. I don't think we have any indication that Elend burned through metals any faster than Vin. Being a more powerful allomancer simply meant he - being more Connected to Preservation because of his ingesting Lerasium - was able to access more power through the same key.

Bendalloy for nutrition would be incredible in a very non complicated way. Just eat one perfectly balanced healthy meal a week then not worry about eating your greens haha. Be good for workout routines! I thought about Electrum for determination, but I don't think having vast quantities of determination would be a good thing possibly.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if that much determination would just translate to supreme overconfidence.

@Clash_In_Saff

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut I'm thinking a One Ring scenario, whoever is using the power would believe themselves to be the single best ruler of a country, planet, or even Cosmere...

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

#MakeScadrialGreatAgain?

so if burning a metal mind fuels an ferchemical attribute, does that mean feruchemy changes the identity of metal itself, so when you try to burn the metalmind you can't use it to fuel the original allomantic power.

@evelynwilliams2892

3 жыл бұрын

i don’t know if that’s how it works if the metalmind is your own, but in the first mistborn book vin burns one of sazeds pewter metalminds and it functions as normal pewter. She can feel the extra investiture, as mentioned in the video, but not access it. However this is done with a case where the powers of the metal are the same, both strength.

@HSuper_Lee

3 жыл бұрын

You are correct, Adam. In a way feruchemically charging a metal makes it something brand new. That said, while the identity and investiture are different, it's the shape of the molecules that actually allows an allomancer to burn the metal, so even though it's spiritually something new, it's physically close enough to be allomantically viable, though with a divergent effect.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Right. The key to Preservation's power is the same, but it's coded to a different effect.

if you could steal physical attributes via hemalurgy, could you steal the shapeshifting ability from a kandra?

@TheCosmerenaut

2 ай бұрын

Ooh, that'd be tricky. I don't think so, as that's an ability inherent in their species, and not really an investiture related one at that. That'd be like stealing a turtle's ability to have a shell; it's so fundamental that it would be really difficult, if not impossible.

I think that compounding zinc for heightened intelligence would be awesome! Never again fear the difficulty of learning a college course.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

It's not quite increased intelligence, but quicker thinking. So you'd probably learn quicker, but not necessarily easier.

@ethanellefson1467

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmmmmm. Hadn't thought about it like that before. Still, it would be undeniably useful.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely.

@ethanellefson1467

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut just checked out the coppermind again, and it sounds like you're right; feruchemical zinc increases the speed at which you can process information, and it seems like that might be it. I originally thought that it was supposed to increase your fluid intelligence, which would make it easier to learn, not just faster. Still, it sounded like Brandon had said that zinc could also make it easier to make "logical leaps", which sounds like it would make it easier to learn, not just make it faster.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

I get where you're coming from though. Brandon's said that a potential danger of zinc compounding is "spending eternity in a moment," which certainly sounds like being confronted with the mysteries of the universe.

Manipulating mass is extremely under-used. >store weight to throw a 0 lb, lightning-fast punch >flare metal immediately before the point of impact, making your body extremely heavy for a split second >hit target with a 100 mph fist weighing 100 lbs

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Both target and fist go boom.

@_WhiteMage

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Possibly. I haven't read past the original trilogy so I'm not sure if it's been explored more. Considering how much Sanderson's characters have come up with inertia and momentum tricks, I'm surprised it wasn't brought up. I imagine with a thousand pound hand coming into it at high speed, a target human body is just getting passed _through,_ like punching jelly, barely slowing the fist at all. It may be possible with feruchemy alone, so I assumed the only reason it wasn't employed was because storing/tapping weight may just be too slow of an ability to do in a flash, mid-strike. With compounding in the mix allowing allomatic "flares" of feruchemic traits, it could open up as a new ability.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, you haven't read Era 2? Like Alloy of Law and the rest? The main character is an iron feruchemist, so this actually does get explored quite a bit.

@_WhiteMage

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCosmerenaut Weight-flaring gets explored? I'll give it another look then. I was turned off by the 1920s aesthetic, so I never picked up the new ones.

@TheCosmerenaut

3 жыл бұрын

They're definitely worth it. The stakes are not nearly as high as the first trilogy, but they're an excellent exploration into how a society would evolve with the Metallic Arts. And I think they're setting up some pretty significant stuff for the rest of the Cosmere.