Since he owned the name he had every right to use it. That still doesn't change the fact that it wasn't in the least bit Guns N Roses.

Bravo for your job here, giving voice to Axl on this matter at last. It's hard to disagree on a single point - him coming up with the name in the first place, then taking caution to protect himself against Niven, then being "strongly advised" by Geffen to put it on the cover, etc. Which rings true to me most is that he really cared and did suffer for this name more than anyone else, so let him own it forever. No problems with "Chinese Democracy" as made by GnR at all - a beautiful album + different logo design + you are allowed to take your band in a different musical direction without changing its name.

Saw GNR in 2006, and I know it where different members, but it still felt like a Guns n Roses show, so I don't mind

Wow Sid, BRAVO! A legit video with almost no bullshit. Nice job. I think more episodes on the “ wilderness years “ and Chinese Democracy era would be apreciated

I always thought of Chinese Democracy as an album by Axl & Friends.

@korykloth9244

4 жыл бұрын

A solo album.

@dominickross1387

4 жыл бұрын

That's all the band was after slash left 😂

@saulhudsonsrocketqueen8288

4 жыл бұрын

Omg my exact thoughts

@themadrapper101

4 жыл бұрын

Guns N Roses marching band since at the time there was 35 members

@tieukhavu8832

4 жыл бұрын

Or, Guns n Axl aka Axl Rose Band

Axl Rose is guns N' roses 🌹 he might have done a lot of fucked up shit but he is also responsible for the greatest artistic decisions the band took to differentiate guns from the other ordinary bands.

It would bring in more money. End of story

@daoyang223

4 жыл бұрын

I'll be honest. With the amount of press Chinese Democracy got. I think he would have had similar results if he went under a different name. It didn't exactly blow up in press, nor did it get a lot of positive feedback.

@Luislopez-yh5bx

4 жыл бұрын

It was a smart mover tho!

I was on the forums back in 2008. I remember it fondly. I was the guy who Rick Rolled Axl if anyone has the transcripts of the first night he chatted as Dexter on mygnr.

2:42 I've always found that picture strange as it's got ex Arsenal player Freddie Ljungberg in the car with him

@fredocorleone6699

4 жыл бұрын

BRANDON DOHERTY i am so confused lol, maybe he’s an Axl fan haha

@ETIKUT99

4 жыл бұрын

Antonio Arredondo I think he was attending a fashion awards in Sweden and I guess they paid for cars to take their guests to and from their hotels etc

I like all the members old and new cuz Axl is genius at picking band mates

I’ve heard people call it the Axle Rose tribute band when he was the only one there

It would have been like if Paul McCartney retained the rights to the name the Beatles and then took that on the road instead of calling it Wings. You have to be Jeff Goldblum about this thing. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should

In all these interviews, Axl says he kept the Guns N' Roses name to survive. But You look at someone like Ozzy Osbourne leaving Black Sabbath and starting a solo career and how well that worked out for him. Imagine if somehow Ozzy called The Blizzard of Ozz or Diary of a Madman, Black Sabbath albums (assuming he had legal rights to do so). People would have said, "That's not Black Sabbath" and he wouldn't have had the success.

@Guitarded51

4 жыл бұрын

I don't believe Ozzy had the rights to the name Black Sabbath, probably Toni Iommi by that point. Point taken though.

@OldAussieAds

4 жыл бұрын

@@Guitarded51 No he didn't, you're right about that. My point was more a "what if?". Ozzy used the departure from Black Sabbath to change his sound and image and that worked out much better than if some version of the now tired Black Sabbath tried to do the same. In reality, it was Tony Iommi that did the Axl Rose and held on to the Sabbath name until the dying end, even when it was him as the sole original in the end. Dave Mustaine did the same thing with Megadeth. I would have liked to have seen what an Axl solo project would have been like.

@daoyang223

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldAussieAds Tony Iommi is a sick guitarist. I'll forever love those single note riffs. But Randy Rhoads, Jake E. Lee, Zakk Wylde. Ozzy definitely had an arsenal of some of the greatest lead guitarists of all time. He traded a steel mace, for a double sided battle axe.

@OldAussieAds

4 жыл бұрын

@@daoyang223 You're not wrong!

@allsystemsgo8678

4 жыл бұрын

@@OldAussieAds Megadeth isn't a good example. It's always been Dave singing, writing all of the lyrics and 99% of the music

When Chinese Democracy came out (as Gn'R), I KNEW Axl owned the rights. I think it only sold at Target or Walmart. Period. In my opinion, it still carries the same GnR feel, with radio playable hits. So, can someone please tell me, why didn't it take off? Original band lineup loyalty? I get that. But damn, cut your nose to spite your face? As long as they're alive they have the opportunity to get back together (minus the inside sh*t WE have no clue about). Then there's the money and fame. Once you win that lottery ticket...You don't have to answer to ANYONE ever again. And as fans, we should be so blessed and lucky to be able to hear in the first place.

@allsystemsgo8678

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not really sure what you consider radio hits. Axl doing all of two interviews and no videos didn't help it. The fact that it took over a decade to make where the album became a punchline in the publics eye didn't help. Calling it Guns n roses when you only have one guy left. Hard Rock in general isn't as popular as it once was.

Great job plus no over bitching bout band this is what brought me to this channel

I like the Chinese democracy album, but I feel like it should have had a different band name as they were no longer GNR. Ither way the album was dope and I enjoy it. I do personally prefer albums like use your illusion 1&2 and appetite for destruction, spaghetti incident and lies

I think we can't see this from a "normal" person point of view: they were junkies, complete assholes with a money maker machine called GNR, so there is people in the middle taking advantage, trying to split the band, taking sides, etc. The excuse of Slash leaving because Axl wanted to go industrial rock I don't buy it. Just take a look how Slash now plays very happy al CD songs

Dude, check your levels. The intro and outro are waaayy too loud compared to everything else.

@MrBonnwylder

4 жыл бұрын

Yes...this☝🏼

Axl is always painted as the bad guy he’s not

Axl Rose- Use Your Confusion (Mongolian Dickocracy)

I think had the direction of the music not changed it may have worked out better. The sound is as much of a part of the brand as anything, so while keeping the known brand is the right move; changing the sound & taking 9 years to put out an album really damaged the brand

Can we get a podcast soon?

Well if it wasn’t called Guns N’ Roses anymore than slash and duff probably wouldn’t have come back

Axl's legal movements to grab the brandname proved just two things: 1. Without original members he isn't as good as he used to be. 2. Chinese Democracy would have been much better with Slash in rather than out.

In the grand scheme, Axl’s released such a small amount of music. He’s been in industry since 1987 and only really has a handful of albums to his name. It’s a shame really. His career has been marred with so much chaos melodrama. I wonder how he feels now he is 60 and probably physically unable to put out another album. All that time he could’ve just been getting on with it. Say what you like about 70s rock bands, they were very workmanlike. Bands like Aerosmith, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin… it was just album/tour/album/tour for decades. Let’s just hope he writes a book

@Mau_Paladino

Жыл бұрын

I'm thinking that maybe, if GNR would have come along with a extensive career as the Rolling Stones, people couldn't have stand it and got bored eventually. They were meant to live fast and intensively.

@janewollington458

6 ай бұрын

There is more to life than making albums.

@janewollington458

6 ай бұрын

There is more to life than making records

slash and then wife.believe it or not slash likes 2 lie it's true

I got a random phone call from a lady in 1995. I'm not sure who she was, or how she got my phone number. She asked me, "If Guns N' Roses would ever break up, and start a new Guns N' Roses, who would you rather see in the band, Axl or Slash?" I thought about it for a couple minutes, and said, "I don't know! I love both of them!" She laughed, and said, "I know, it's hard to choose, isn't it?" I finally said, "I guess it would be better with Axl." Looking back, in hindsight, I wonder if this fan survey had anything to do with Axl keeping the band name after the lawsuit? Man, that was a strange time... I remember it like it was yesterday!

I liked Slash's name of Axl and his merry men. He kept the name for the same reason Blackie Lawless kept the Wasp name... money.

A friend of mine gave me CD because he didn’t like the cd at all and I gave it to a friend because I didn’t like it at all 🤷🏻‍♀️

Convoluted justifications like this are usually an indicator that it wasnt the best solution. Having said that, it seems like Axl's behavior early on had put him in a very bad legal situation for years. Still love the band and hope the best for Axl. I think he has a lot of demons he wrestles with.

I think Axl Rose should’ve just went with “Axl and Friends” or “Axl Rose”

Guns 'N' Roses stopped being guns n roses after Axl saw that he was above everyone else, there was originally 5 members of the band, & they played together like a finely tuned & well oiled machine, but after Axl started to throw his weight around & show everyone else that basically this was all his idea, it made perfect sense for him to start a new band but hold the name of the old band because to Axl it is all about territory, he just assumed or hoped that his once biggest fans would be ok with a different band as long as the singer remained the same, mathamatics is my not my strong point but with 80% of the band gone, & just the one remaining member & mind you it's not even because the original members died of old age or something similar, you just have one voice left of a one time shit hot band, basically saying come on guys, lets work like a team & do it my way! who would want to own the name of a band that was once the best band of an era for a generation, just to be able to say I own the rights to this stuff! that was done once before & it failed also the band once used to be a little awesome Australian band called "The Little River Band" with no original members & no birth place of Australia anymore, it's just a business savy person trying to milk all the dollars out of a once great performing musical act, & I just personally have less respect for somebody that is trying to call something new the same thing that something entirely older & different was, I would have respected Axl Rose more if he came out with all this new stuff for chinese democracy but said "well guns n roses was what I lived & breathed for a long time but this is a different band from a different time period, with a new sound & this is what I can do with a new crew! but he didn't he was once touted as the worlds baddest most dangerous band, which intern became just one person left due to everyone else being fired or leaving, so now all those brilliant magical musicians that now because guns n roses is different yet again, So now the 2nd version of guns n roses don't get to be remembered for their time with Axl Rose in his own project band, of their own title, they just get to be reffered to as "Those 9 or 10 musicians whom were employed by Axl Rose for a guns n roses titled album that was totally not guns n roses when does being employed by guns n roses as a band member ever hold any weight when you were never a founding member & at the time the band changed it wasn't 1 or two members it was about 10 or so members, see from 5 original members to 10 non original members, bang in one go! listening to poor young kids bragging that they got to see GUNS 'N' ROSES live, when in truth they saw Axl rose & the most talented set of musicians since a long time "but they are known as the fake guns n roses", because instead of giving them a brand new name for a new sound, you just reminisce & call Chinese Democracy has got quite a few awesome tracks, & I do love Shacklers Revenge, but it's not Guns 'N' Roses, it's a good song, but you can't sell a car for a lot more money just by changing it's name to something that it's not!

Good show!

After Guns he went solo but still called in Guns 👎 that was just wrong. But I suspect with all the drug intake he probably saw the writing on the wall and just made a business decision to feather his own nest. He’s an asshole, not stupid. I remember when he made that comeback in the early naughties and friends of mine coming back from the show (pre internet days really) being all confused cos Slash & Duff etc weren’t there and it was just fat Axl & friends. He caught out a lot of people with that trick - by keeping the name. But I suspect that was all part of the plan. He probably looks on it as survival and the smart thing to do. The truth is Guns died with the departure of the original members and Chinese Democracy was an Axl Rose solo album.

@janewollington458

6 ай бұрын

Axl is guns and roses. He did the right thing.

Axl’s explanations are always long winded, complicated and intentionally confusing journeys into a labyrinth of pseudo logic and legal-ish reasoning. 🤷‍♂️

@hyvakoira

4 жыл бұрын

They are wordy, but actually make perfect sence if read a couple times.

@distantandvague

2 жыл бұрын

You used all of your biggest words

@guitarmixvids

2 жыл бұрын

@@distantandvague translation “He’s a complicated guy..” 😂

@guitarmixvids

2 жыл бұрын

@@distantandvague but seriously, all those things that make him difficult and unpredictable play a role in him being one of the most iconic and interesting artists of all time 🤟

Did Tracii Guns sue over the name beings they used his name in it?🤔

@adamgriffith-smith9106

4 жыл бұрын

Wikked 1 no, and it’d be dumb if him to do so

@wikked1936

4 жыл бұрын

@@adamgriffith-smith9106 why he was in the band before everyone

@adamgriffith-smith9106

4 жыл бұрын

Wikked 1 the band was formed between him and Axl

@tieukhavu8832

4 жыл бұрын

He left.

@adinadamian5634

4 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that he didn't like it much when Axl kept the "Guns" part in the "Guns N' Roses" name.

The Pink Floyd argument would only work if the rest of the band went on as Guns N Roses without Axl

It's too sad that the whole band GNR had turned into a corporation industry, with just a name and an unique boss, Axl Rose, of course, who's got the rights to fire anyone he wants.

Rn'r Axl!

Looking back, with the substance abuse of his band members at the time, the lawsuits and all that, I can see why Axl went into super control mode..He was prob in constant fear he would lose everything he worked for at any moment.

Cause the singer makes the band

@cheetosniffin8411

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree , take a look at black Sabbath's career it shows. Some of their most successful albums like "heaven and hell" succeeded the original lineups work

@davidjonburke2729

4 жыл бұрын

@@cheetosniffin8411 dude I never even heard of that album till now

@cheetosniffin8411

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidjonburke2729 check it out it's a dam good album 👌

@XzanderVillo

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidjonburke2729 Doesn't mean it's not good, if that was true Van Halen wouldn't have had two popular lineups.

@XzanderVillo

4 жыл бұрын

The people who make the band are the people who write the music.

Nothing instrumentally epic to brand other members. He should have gone with "Axhole rose"

Hey I just want let u know I be listen to ur group since I was 9 years old n iam 45 now n I still listen to ur group n I be n love with u since I was 9 n it's not cuz of money money comes n goes.when I was watching MTV ur song welcome to jungle came on n cuz of u I got into rock music n long hair guys with make up n I remember when I was watching mtv again patience song came on n that when my cousins who was my society blanket move to Florida I was loss but ur music keep me going n also ur group was my first concert I went to u was playing with Aerosmith n few days before ur concert I was watching mtv n u was telling bout ur childhood n I knew what u went threw cuz I went threw the same fucking shit for 17 years of my life anyway when I went to ur concert n when u was playing sweet child o mine I was crying cuz I felt ur pain cuz of ur childhood n I just want let u know when I get piss off I start listen to ur gnr music app on my phone I start comeing down from being piss n one of my dreams was to meet u but I know that never gone happen but I do want let u know thank u for being n my life threw sadness n happiness n I still today feel the same way bout u n ur group nobody never gone change my mind n when people talk shit bout u n ur group around e I stand up for u n ur group I love so much keep playing hard n just act like urself cuz if u didn't act like urself u n ur group wouldn't be here right now so thank u again for be n my life when I was child n as a adult I love u

Guns and Roses collapsed because of AXL...lets just admit it! He was a great singer but his erratic behavior destroyed the band.

tht dizzy reed outro lol hes' so corny sorry but seriously hahah

$$$

In the grand scheme, Axl’s released such a small amount of music. He’s been in industry since 1987 and only really has a handful of albums to his name. It’s a shame really. His career has been marred with so much chaos melodrama. I wonder how he feels now he is 60 and probably physically unable to put out another album. All that time he could’ve just been getting on with it. Say what you like about 70s rock bands, they were very workmanlike. Bands like Aerosmith, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin… it was just album/tour/album/tour for decades. Let’s just hope he writes a book

In the grand scheme, Axl’s released such a small amount of music. He’s been in industry since 1987 and only really has a handful of albums to his name. It’s a shame really. His career has been marred with so much chaos melodrama. I wonder how he feels now he is 60 and probably physically unable to put out another album. All that time he could’ve just been getting on with it. Say what you like about 70s rock bands, they were very workmanlike. Bands like Aerosmith, AC/DC, Led Zeppelin… it was just album/tour/album/tour for decades.