Hooray! The buildzoid we love is BACK!!!

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@NPzed

Жыл бұрын

Second first!

@mufc1417

Жыл бұрын

Hey, that's cheating!!

@Lightyagamie

2 ай бұрын

Hahaha

Sadly as good as the card is, it is also the top for coil whine. Yes, yes "Mine is silent" blah blah. Asus knows about it so much so, that with the new Asus Matrix card, they point out the improvements made with coil whine.

@PowellCat745

Жыл бұрын

The “mine is silent” crowd never really pushed this card. Also, this card’s 12vhpwr connector seems to have the highest melting rate.

@mrmrgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@PowellCat745 The melting thing might be a bit unfair due to sales vs other brands. I would guess there are more Asus and MSI cards out in the wild, but don't know the figs. My Suprim X just melted with a cablemod adapter.

@AdamBrackney

Жыл бұрын

The coil whine on mine is quite noticeable, it just doesn't bother me.

@mrmrgaming

Жыл бұрын

@@AdamBrackney My hope is whatever they are doing with the Matrix 4090, they do the same for the 5090....well, if it works and does reduce/stop the coil whine.

@PowellCat745

Жыл бұрын

@@mrmrgaming No. ASUS’s failure rate was much higher. Rate is not related to the number of sales.

I (WE!) love these PCB overviews! Thanks brother!

Yay, finally a proper PCB review! :)

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

Жыл бұрын

it is literally not a review. Since I didn't actually test anything. Using high end parts doesn't automatically make the implementation good.

Great watch ! Would love to see a Suprim x 4090 pcb review too. Seems to be mentioned in the same vein as the Strix this gen.

Big W, been waiting for this.

Thanks BZ!

I understood about 2% of what you said but I love hearing people that are experts on a topic, talk.

They put an explicit GND testpoint possibly because they have a device that this PCB can pop into to quickly probe all the rails at once and its easier of the GND testpoint is shaped like all the other ones.

More, better Buildzoid! Thanks!

awesome!

I think the different 3.3V rails might exist because they need to have a sequence in which the power rails are turned on. Maybe 3.3V_F is a fixed 3.3V rail, and 3.3V_SEQ is coming through a load switch, letting them sequence it?

finally some PCB Beakdown

Hi Buildzoid! Are you planning to do one of these for the gigabyte / aorus 4090's?

Great breakdown - Curious to see if you can do the MSI 4090 Suprim X as well since I saw you noticed on the Quick 3090 Suprim X that it wasn't much different between other MSI 3090 versions... I'm curious to know if MSI did something better on the 4090 this time around...

@Vili69420

Жыл бұрын

me too lol

@imadecoy.

Жыл бұрын

As a Suprim Liquid owner I'd love to see it

@adriaanbalkenende23

Жыл бұрын

Would love this too

I just watched the video for this card. Very informative. What I get from this content is that they could be a little more cost effective in the design, but Asus does have a reputation for OC ability. If they were to design the cards a little more cost effectively, would they maintain the performance roof?

Nice

Could all that extra capacitance be to smooth out transient power surges on power supplies during gaming, I have heard a lot of the cards from the past 5 years or so have a big issue with power draw surges.

Btw Phils Lab has just put up a comprehensive choosing capacitors vid.

How did you remove the PCB from the cooling fin? Could you present a video demonstration in the near future. I have bought an EK waterblock for my Asus RTX 4090 Strix. However, I had difficulty separating the cooling fin module on the I/O side glued to the PCB. I did not dare to cut the glue in fear of damaging the thin circuit on the PCB.

Universal Basic EVC2 is a human right.✊⚡

have any plans on doing a ddr3 overclocking video any time soon?

11:22 could you use an arduino to generate a square wave? Or would the difference in what the gpu asks for and what it gets trigger ovp or something?

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

Жыл бұрын

You'd have to disconnect the PWM VID signal that comes from the GPU. As long as you match the frequency of the PWM VID and amplitude it should work. Unless there's a restriction on the PWM range like 100% duty cycle = 1.15V or something.

Please evaluate Zotac Amp Extreme 4090. Seems to be quiet a bit better than most zotac attempts

Can you do PCB dreakdown for Rx 7900xtx asrock oc or something.❤

Hey BZ, I didn't know Asus purchased components for their cards at fire sales!

Do you think flashing a OC model bios to a none OC model is perfectly safe?

Is there any wy make a galax hydro 4090 review comes up?

I think that Mp2891 PWM is a part of the issue with the 4090s melting power cables. I don't think the adapters and connectors have suffcient ampacity to handle the draw. The switching speeds and energy efficiency measures in the PWM are leading to transient spikes. I don't think the MP2891 is the right chip.

18:55 same

I have a 4090 TUF. Is that a quality card?

Pretty sure (and anyone feel free to comment if I'm wrong) the bios switch literally changes the fan curve that's it unless some cards it's different

Hello! I am a member on HWBot, I haven't made any submissions for awhile. I was wondering if there was anyone else that thought it would be fun to run High Performance LinPack in Double Floating Point 64 the way Supercomputers do. I think people should.

4090 master or strix for build ?

I've got a Gigabyte card with a EKWB on it in a custom loop which runs just under 3ghz which I've worried about due to the recent cracking PCB bullshit but I will say one thing, its silent.

what is the scon1 header?

hello buildzoid, it is interesting here for asus 4090 the input caps vs output caps choices... because for the consumer we find a lot of coil whine on asus cards (more than other brands). so perhaps either these choices can affect the amount of coil whine, or they are instead some attempt(s) by asus to reduce their levels of coil whine. or it could be due to the fact that they just use so many capacitors overall, or more is of certain types... another point about is that asus claims to have recently improved and so-called 'innovated' their inductors on brand new cards. which replaces their old version inductors. all in the name of better coil whine. but hahaha is it the chokes or the caps. anyhow you dont care about this. but it just maybe explains why they might do such weird looking things. since this issue is while nothing of performance, yet still a matter in response to so many complaints from users. who pays a lot of money for these gpus... so it stands to reason maybe the end result is both combination of whatever nvidia design specs dictates + their own asus performance or inhouse overclocker obsession(s) + also to simultaneously try to re-prioritize coile whine matter. which can be hard to pick apart. and separate one from the other. is my 2cents.

@pmarciano1717

Жыл бұрын

I sended back 5 Strix 4090 already because of that bee trapped in there and tried a gigabyte one and it has 0 choilwhine compared to Asus but the thermals are 3-5 degrees higher with the gigabyte one and it looks cheaper than the asus one but ZERO Choilwhine howww ?

One thing Id like to piint out. Im into diy high end audio stuff and in that world they like to put electeolitic caps on the top of the pcb + some film caps in the back of the ocb because it has some electrical benefits and it sounds better. Maybe there is a similar reason why they mix the caps that way? Maybe its not because of the amount of capacitance but the combination of those kind of caps doing some good things in the ripple. Just thinking outloud so someone with more knowldege can shed some light on this 😊

@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking

Жыл бұрын

everything a cylindrical polymer can do an SMD polymer can do better(the SMD polymers just cost a lot more per uF).

Little bit late but please Suprim X next❤

Now I´m wondering if I should have got a Strix instead of a TUF. I´m still waiting for any word on the RMA of my 4090 TUF ...

@winebartender6653

Жыл бұрын

For the money, the msi suprim/x is the best bang for buck PCB. No reason to spend $1900+ when you can get essentially the same PCB performance for $1700. And having binned ~10 of these and suprims, binning can be said to not exist.

@riadshash5456

Жыл бұрын

What happened to your 4090 TUF?

@RadiatorTwo

Жыл бұрын

@@riadshash5456 Did run with max of 180 to 190 Watts. Wouldn´t draw power past that and run way too slow.

Here's a photo since most of us will never see a real one, that thing is fully stacked.

I have this exact card and the coil whine is so bad that I can hear it across the room at stock power levels. Running time spy sounds like a buzz saw. This is hands down *the worst* card I have ever owned for coil whine I have ever owned. I have even tried putting a soundproofing blanket over the water block it’s just that bad.

@pmarciano1717

Жыл бұрын

I sended back 5 rog strix 4090 already because of that crazy choilwhine and i will try 1 time again after that i get Gigabyte one because much less choilwhine

I used to love the high end PCBs, this PCB just looks way too tiny for a 4090, sad.

"And then there is a bunch of RGB Garbage down here" -- Best Summary of RGB Ever... 👍👍

🙂👍

I had five different 3080/70 STRIX cards and ALL of them had the most terrible coil whine of all cards I've ever owned despite them being supposedly high quality PCB parts/design. I am not buying a STRIX ever again unless they get their whining under control and change their capacitors.

@RCEngineTuner

Жыл бұрын

Strix 3090 owner here. Same. Same freakin experience. This thing is loud.

Not first.

@Xayc__

Жыл бұрын

Same :(

Come on man. The whole time the right of the jack is covered. It's a very important part.

iam waiting for the day, when aibs sell gpu with selected coils so you can buy a premium - no coilwhine- edition. i would pay 100 bucks extra for that. i cant stand the sound

The Strix gpu's have always been great cards. However, I'm on my second 4090 Strix because the power connector melted and burnt down on the original one. ASUS replaced it with a new in box card, thankfully, and not a refurb. Nvidia's stupid idea of a new power connector is a joke...

@zorbakaput8537

Жыл бұрын

PS its not an NVidia design they were first, AMD will have to switch if it is going to comply with the PC SIG standard,

@aliasonarcotics

Жыл бұрын

@@zorbakaput8537 amd won't have a problem since the 12vhpwr is getting a revamp

@erisium6988

Жыл бұрын

@@zorbakaput8537connector is good its smaller and only one but the adapter is joke, too stiff, dont click, its just trash.

@user-qi9be4lv7l

11 ай бұрын

@PixelMoments774 Yup, you are correct. I was using the first gen of the cable mod adapters.

@conpa18dany

8 ай бұрын

Damn right the Strix are great, my ASUS STRIX 980 Ti was on my system for almost a decade and can still run new games in low.

So possibly the best PCB, best fans, best cooling, but it's all for nothing if it screams during gaming.

"and these a bunch of RGB gurbage down here..." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂

3rd

Well, I feel a little better about spending 2k on a gpu after watching this video. Lol

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"Promo sm"

Literally the worst 4090 u can get. Highest price, biggest coilwhine, worst fps per dollar since u get 1fps more compared to the cheap ones😂

rename ur channel into hardcore rumbling, cause you have no touch with overclocking, LN2, dryice whatsoever anymore.