Okay so I spoke with Asus today, bit of a mix up on the pricing. For whatever reason the $3,999 US they gave me was the Australian price converted to a US price, which is super confusing and doesn’t really make sense. I did ask for the US MSRP. Anyway, it’s meant to be $3,200 US which changes nothing in the review, other than the quoted price. Sorry for the confusion, Asus did apologize and said this one is on them.

@ZomgZomg007

10 ай бұрын

ah $4000AUD lol thats insane. On a off note i noticed your chapters seem a bit off, there is mention of Ratchet and Clank but thats Starfield/etc.

@Hardwareunboxed

10 ай бұрын

@@ZomgZomg007 no it will be well over $4000 AUD. They said $4000 US which is $6200 AUD.

@1ndrew

10 ай бұрын

Whew its only 3200 usd.

@dominicshortbow1828

10 ай бұрын

@@1ndrew Still Horrible. that's double the price than it's msrp!

@ZomgZomg007

10 ай бұрын

@@Hardwareunboxed oh get f.... lmao.

I was thinking it would be $2500, but $4000 is just laughable.

@AntonChekhoff

11 ай бұрын

I laugh and tears flow freely. The pandemic and the crypto boom have really messed up lives of gamers.

@tresnugget

11 ай бұрын

3200... not much better

@AtheismF7W

11 ай бұрын

Didn't they drop prices on the 4060 ti and 4070?

@haukikannel

11 ай бұрын

Cheap! Just wait normal 5090 to be $4000! 😂

@notafanboy250

11 ай бұрын

I guessed $2200. Boy how wrong I was.

Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you can't unbox it.

@Hardwareunboxed

11 ай бұрын

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

@GameBacardi

11 ай бұрын

Opened box -> no return policy

@karlrxvegavargas6477

11 ай бұрын

And that's a fact😂

@michaelshelby7629

11 ай бұрын

​@@GameBacardi😂 then we can afford it. Everybody buy it, open it, send it back

@streamroller1974

11 ай бұрын

@@Hardwareunboxeddoes Matrix have -300 chip or -301 (1.07v) chip ?

Quick note on the price, I asked Asus directly via email yesterday if they had an MSRP for the ROG Matrix yet and they replied with "the MSRP is $3,999USD." I know the ROG Store has it listed for $3200 US, but it's not listed anywhere else yet. I'll try and get clarification from Asus today on the price, but in any case it's still insane at $3200 US :D

@stevfell

11 ай бұрын

4000?? Yikes.

@jksoftware1

11 ай бұрын

You can still buy or come close to buying 2 4090 MSRP models for that price. lol

@j4y625

11 ай бұрын

lol I didnt even pay 4k for my pc with a 4090 in it

@jooyichen

11 ай бұрын

A little more greed and it would've coincidentally named, the RTX $4090.

@Six_Gorillion

11 ай бұрын

You can buy a pretty decent car for that money. Holy shit. How many Saudi princes are gaming these days even? Who is the market exactly?

I think the card looks absolutely amazing but but at that price, it's just insane. For that money you get a full i9 13900k, rtx4090, z790 maximus hero, 32 ddr5 pc with all the bells and whistles

@iulyan719

11 ай бұрын

That what i thought too, to pay 4k just for a few extra frames for this fancy new 4090 than the original one, that is a crazy thing to do.

@upforellie

11 ай бұрын

You could do all of those with nearly a full custom loop for the same price. Absurd. The tubes on this thing are soooo long and you're going to have extra tubing everywhere. At least with a custom loop you can control that.

@1stRanger

11 ай бұрын

Nothing about this card is amazing except its price. It obviously meant to target brain dead customers with too much cash on their hands.

@tofu_golem

11 ай бұрын

That price would be insane even if it cost the same as most other 4090 cards.

@rustyshakelford1466

11 ай бұрын

it really doesn't. I've seen much better AIO cards like the Toxic or even prior gen cards from Asus themselves. It's just a big piece of useless hollow metal frame that does nothing but take up space and make the product even more case restrictive.

Yay more expensive GPUs is exactly what everyone has been waiting for

@Hardwareunboxed

11 ай бұрын

Yeah but... hear me out.... this one is wayyyyyyyy more expensive.

@1Grainer1

11 ай бұрын

@@Hardwareunboxed but is it more expensive than 4090ti or 5090? edit: just got to the end, you got an audible laugh, and getting that from not funny thing is feat on its own

@shagohodds

11 ай бұрын

In that case my left kidney will find a new home!@@Hardwareunboxed

@thalo215

11 ай бұрын

​@@Hardwareunboxedhey Jensen said the more you buy, the more you save....

@thedivide3688

11 ай бұрын

There’s always the luxury crowd. Meant for the rich, not average joe. You know the kind that buy Rolls-Royce crowd.

Gotta love Steve. “Let me do all of this super in-depth testing, but I found some other tests I could do that seemed like fun, so I tried those too.” This guy is a machine!

@NoName-rs4us

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, i think hes the best hardware reviewer as well. ps. Thanks for full Aussie accent mode...i dont mind it 👍

Considering that liquid metal will corrode copper coldplate over time, the cryosheet seems like the best choice here. Glad you included different compound results

@Penfolduk001

10 ай бұрын

Yes DeBauer raised this issue in his review. Apparently Asus are basically saying "Trust Us Bro". Which isn't too reassuring.

+10% performance for +150% price sounds like a plan

@georgehill3087

10 ай бұрын

@TheEasternQ-CC Where do I buy ticket to this parallel universe?

@fsisrael9224

3 ай бұрын

Not even %10, more like 4-5%

The cooling compound testing was a nice idea. The Cryosheet was pretty impressive in its performance.

@Simonsavvi

11 ай бұрын

Right? I knew it would compete and surpass typical paste but I never expected it to be this good compared to LM

@CaraesNaur

11 ай бұрын

As derBauer pointed out, the cooling plate is bare copper not nickel plated, which means the liquid metal will suffuse into it over time. It would then seem that tearing this card down to install a CryoSheet is inevitable.

@DoctorrMetal

11 ай бұрын

I was, but i'm not sure the results are good. Not really seem to make any sense imo. Should kryosheet perform better than hydronaut, in what world does this make sense?

@whismerhillgaming

11 ай бұрын

I'm actually surprised how much more efficient the kryosheet is over regular thermal paste I mean, liquid metal is just not interesting anymore at that level

@Simonsavvi

11 ай бұрын

@@whismerhillgaming ye if a thing I can just place on the GPU/CPU with no hassle nets 7C difference, what's the point? Unless you're doing extreme stuff I don't see why you would choose LM over it.

The price is crazy high, but just the same, it's fun to see these types of products reviewed so we can at least see them in action. Kudos to Asus for making it and all of the 15 buyers who will enjoy one.

@RealistRatRace

10 ай бұрын

@m0riannewth

@KenoKere

7 ай бұрын

@m0rianne Same it sells at around 3000$ at the moment. Not a lot of buyers, but it constantly sells. I personally think of either buying this as upgrade from 3080 rog OC, or wait to see what Asus does for RTX50xx series.

only a 2°C gap between the pad and the liquid metal ? damn that's some really good information. Those pads are so much easier to use (no risk of shorts, no drying, no diffusion inside copper...). With such a little temperature delta they will be my go-to choice from now on.

@stanimir4197

10 ай бұрын

I my experience liquid metal it does no dry, however it gets absorbed/diffused in copper and nickel. I suppose in couple of years I can report the 10y and few applications on 6700k IHS, how 'fast' with absorbs with each application.

@Exiled_Raven

10 ай бұрын

As a heads-up: Those kryosheet pads are electrically conductive though, fyi.

@ashryver3605

10 ай бұрын

It's because the gpu die is enormous compared to a cpu, it's not really needed to liquid metal a gpu. Most run really cool already, and the huge die makes it so there isn't as much to move in a concentrated area. It's cool, and it helps, but it's not like a CPUs 8-25 degree drop (depending on generation) Cooling the core also doesn't help memory ocing either

This one should absolutely be the benchmark in cost per frame on every graph going forward.

@DailyCorvid

11 ай бұрын

Definitely the most powerful card without conditions being setup. You can also make it cost effective, if you use it to render the plan you drew up. For robbing the Federal Reserve in order to buy it! :)

@geiers6013

11 ай бұрын

Please do it Hardware unboxed, just for the fun hahaha

@ZombieFartDev

11 ай бұрын

they cant, its so bad its a one off and they usually remove outliers due to averages sake

@Lebon19

11 ай бұрын

Just to explode the graphics out of proportion? lol

@ZombieFartDev

11 ай бұрын

nvidiaception has begun, the masses are already fooled@@Lebon19

The KryoSheet performance is extremely impressive!

@DavidTrejo

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m sold too. The regular TG has been great but I’m definitely looking to upgrade.

That price tag is such a huge disappointment! The $4090 price tag was there for the taking and they completely missed it

@stuartfury3390

8 ай бұрын

Why would they price it so low?

The newer 4090 silicon (AD102-301) is voltage-limited to just 1.070v. This is one reason later cores do not overclock as well as release-day silicon (AD102-300), which could utilise 1.1v. On the plus-side, the newer cores seem to run cooler at same voltage.

@iP1sano

11 ай бұрын

Nobody has tried it on this specific model but there's a tool to flash 1.1v BIOS on 1.07v models called "nvflashk" (not to be confused with the regular nvflash). In the Matrix in particular I fear (this is 100% my speculation) that you need to run its own BIOS to get proper fan speed and RGB control. Or maybe not.

@mauritos100

10 ай бұрын

what bios is used and what is the voltage for 4 ghz with ln2??

Holy SHIT that price!!!! I was thinking a "reasonable" maximum high-end 4090 could reach 2,500, maybe, but 4000??? That's beyond insane

@SYNTHBREAK

10 ай бұрын

no ones making u buy this, if price is a problem its not for you lmao, you have other cheaper cards this is for OC'ers, benchmarkers, not you buddy

@The11devans

10 ай бұрын

What a strange reply. Enjoy your new card, I guess. Unless you can't afford it either?

For $4k at least they should make the memory cooling better than the previous ones. Also Der8auer mentioned the raw cooper and liquid metal contact will be problematic over time...

@inkredebilchina9699

11 ай бұрын

yeah, but they're Asus. for the brave amongst us. 😂😂😂😂

@iP1sano

11 ай бұрын

I have my FE 4090 in a custom loop and I had to use bad thermal pads on the VRAM chips on purpose, otherwise I would get worse clocks/stability than on air. I know it sounds weird but if you do search around you'll find other people who did the same, apparently GDDR6X likes to run on the warmer side (I don't personally call mid 70s hot)

@alhemmings8554

10 ай бұрын

But it's an Nvidia card, you're supposed to upgrade every cycle. To be honest, the kind of people dropping this kind of money to play games probably don't care about longevity all that much.

12:29 That facial expression is priceless!! 😂Great job on the review!

I don't mind you doing this every once in a while. It is neat to see the crazy stuff at times. Even from you and you too should be able to have some fun playing around with stuff like this and of course you don't fail to show the performance so no one gets fooled that the price is actually worth it.

Sadly not even my kidney will be enough for this 4090

@haukikannel

11 ай бұрын

Just sell you famila as a slaves… and you may be able to affort this! 😂😂😂

If you want an absurd product, take a look at the Galax HOF 4090 that comes with TWO 12vhpwr connectors.

@Hardwareunboxed

11 ай бұрын

pfff that model's not even three grand, garbage!

@mrdali67

11 ай бұрын

@@Hardwareunboxed Still remember the first time We were putting a System together for a custommer With an Intel Pentium Extreme edition and 2 Nvidia GPU's in SLI and a ton of ram for that time and 2x 10.000 rpm Raptor disks. Always fun to build something you can't afford yourself 😄

@omargallo9636

11 ай бұрын

any card lower than 10x my card price is absolute garbage @@Hardwareunboxed

@EarthIsFlat456

11 ай бұрын

At least with that card you can do some crazy OC if you want, but this card is pretty meh when it comes to OC.

@MrDgt66

11 ай бұрын

HasselHOF edition!

Someone get Hollywood on the line and get Steve a Oscar nomination for that straight face he kept when announcing the pricing. I don’t know how he did it but BRAVO!

The .5 slot designations are important for people who do ITX cases and builds. I have a lot of cases that will fit a 3.25 slot card but not a 3.75 slot card. So while yes, they both use "4 slots" they don't use 4 slots of space at the bottom of an ITX case.

I thought 3000$ at most. 4k is truly insane pricing.

@amirtak9886

11 ай бұрын

I bet ASUS was thinking "4K gaming for 4K $$$".

@Quicksilver1227

11 ай бұрын

4k for 4k gaming is indeed insane price

@ZombieFartDev

11 ай бұрын

they arent called ngreedia for nothing son

@amirtak9886

11 ай бұрын

@@ZombieFartDev I know Father

@sujimayne

11 ай бұрын

It's the pricing that makes the most sense. The kind of people that buy these graphics cards don't care if it's priced at 3k or 4k, so ASUS would just be losing out on potential profit by pricing it lower.

I love it when manufacturers try to say things like "two and a half slots" You're right, it doesn't matter if its 2.5, 2.2., 2 and 1/3 slots. Either way, that 3rd slot gets taken. Its like when people tell me they have 2 1/2 kids. What the hell does that mean? Do you HAVE 3 KIDS OR NOT?! I don't care how old they are. 3 kids, 3 mouths to feed, 3 butts to wipe,

@Z3t487

11 ай бұрын

I have 2.1 kids: 2 kids plus and arm and a leg of the third one.

@mcwolfbeast

11 ай бұрын

In fact, anything over 1.9 or so will probably prevent you from using the third slot.

@mRibbons

11 ай бұрын

I see where you are coming from, but it does matter for sff builds. itx boards only have 1 pcie x16 slot, but itx cases may have 1, 2, or more slots for io or clearance. That extra 0.5 does matter. Vertical mounting also requires some consideration for card thickness a well. 👍

@inkredebilchina9699

11 ай бұрын

the only sense that "two and a half kids" statement makes is in the average of how many kids families have by data collected about habitants of a certain state/region/area. there was a 90s British sitcom named "2point 4 children " because at the time of shooting it was the British national average of kids. and no, there wasn't a 0.4 kid on the show. 😂 also I completely agree with you. no matter how you put it, it's rendering 3rd slot unavailable.

@Lishtenbird

10 ай бұрын

I love it when casual commenters try to farm likes by mocking huge companies for things they're too casual to be even aware of. The exact height will matter for SFF builds, for vertical mounting, for modded builds, for tinker builds with extra PCIe cards that block air circulation, for weirder cases. And all it takes to inform all those enthusiasts is literally a dot and a digit.

A top tier GPU like this should be in the $600 range.

Arguably the most useful info in the video: 8:43 I just finished my last tube of hydronaut but I just received a gpu water block, I decided to give the cryosheet a try but haven’t removed the stock cooler yet. Looks like it won’t be a bad idea after all looking at Steve’s results!

The value is entirely in bragging rights and overcompensation for feeling inadequate in... other respects XD

I'm surprised they used blank copper on the base plate. It will react with the gallium based liquid metal and will need replacement in 1-2 years.

@JohnSmith-oh9ux

11 ай бұрын

before that you got to un-fuse gpu and block lmao

Those Kryosheet numbers are insane, thanks for including that! I just ordered one for my 7950X3D to try it out a few days ago because it sounded super cool. I can't wait to install it now.

@DatHondaBoi223

9 ай бұрын

Where did you order it?

@ZWortek

9 ай бұрын

@@DatHondaBoi223I got mine off Amazon

I noticed you were able to get a stable 3ghz out of it while staying under the 450w stock TDP. Its clearly got decently binned silicone, i'm curious what kind of numbers it could push with the power draw slider pushed to 133%/600w

If they provided the GPU section with plugs for your own watercooling system that'd be cool

@arcadealchemist

11 ай бұрын

just waiting for solid state air cooling to get better

@1stRanger

11 ай бұрын

It wouldn't make any sense since it has its own pump and it's complete and utter trash for custom loop. Pretty much like in almost every AIO that was ever made. They'd have to use normal DDC pump, but they didn't even bother to create a decent waterblock and used thermal pads for heat transfer from everything but GPU.

@MrNelahem

11 ай бұрын

You are better off getting a founder edition card then just replacing the stock cooler with a Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO - 360mm RTX 4090 Reference Design with Backplate. You will save $2000 in the process and have similar thermals. And Alphacool does give you options to convert or hook that up to an already installed water-cooling system.

@DDD-xx4mg

11 ай бұрын

It’s looks really nice, but temps are shit

They are out of their minds with that price. Holy hell.

When you said 4000 dollars US I was actually blown away. I wonder if this thing will sell.

I was wondering when the price would be dropped, had to wait towards the end. Well done Steve. It kept me glued to my little laptop and the price was forefront in my mind from the beginning. I surmised a possible $US3,000 price but $US4,000 simply blew me away and what is a ridiculous price for most will be bought and made out of stock very quickly by the nouvo rich. For us mere Aussies, the price is at least $6,000 or more depending on the greed of the retailer. Now I understand why Radeon will be manufacturing mid and lower range video cards on next their new RDNA release.

I really do love these hyper expensive SKUs of hyper expensive and overpriced graphics cards!!!!! And what a thrill to see it tied with its non-waterblocked counterparts!!!

2 years later: RTX 5060ti has dlss 4 and beats 4090 for half the price.

@Dzugashvili

11 ай бұрын

5080ti*

@sombrabombra4042

11 ай бұрын

800 USD for 5060ti sounds right about how they imagine future pricing levels

@haukikannel

11 ай бұрын

No… 2 years later 5060ti that is 5% faster that 3060ti! And cost only $800! You got it wrong! 5090 will be 70% faster and it will cost $4000 so there is room to increase the low end prices allso! 😂😂😂

My issue with this is the fans are hooked up to the gpu so they have to conform to Nvidias hyper aggressive fan profile and looks really difficult to disconnect with the cables built into the pipes. Means this gpu isn't going to be any quieter than any other 4090. Temperatures aren't the problem with 4090's ( mine included) it's nvidias baked fan speeds making a stupid amount of noise at low power use.

The Cryosheet on my 6800XT Red Devil would be fun to try if I repaste it before upgrading. Works great as is but that cryosheet may become the next go to thermal solution with those results and no worries like liquid metal.

@MyouKyuubi

9 ай бұрын

Yes, i love seeing the cryosheet getting more popular, lol... Hands down the best cooling solution ever invented, imho... for computer use anyhow. xD

The block design is actually quite disappointing. The water only touched the area over the core and that's it. At least with a custom block design, you would get water pathways over the memory and VRM areas of the card. This means that this card is not only ungodly expensive for what it is, but also a poor choice for ultimate cooling performance. A custom water block will also let you chose your own flow rates and radiator dissipation, so the ambient is really the limit.

@HyperScorpio8688

11 ай бұрын

It's exclusively for ultra whales who have more money than care in the world

@Squashed8Ball

11 ай бұрын

ASUS want the memory to degrade and fail so Richy Rich goes out and buys the next ASUS rip off sooner rather than later. It is deliberately designed to shorten the product’s lifespan.

@cyxceven

11 ай бұрын

Not to mention it will develop overheating problems in a year once the LM has permeated the copper.

@PainterVierax

10 ай бұрын

@@Squashed8Ball except Richy Rich won't get that. He got a guy like Kristofer Yee who just ordered a custom case with an open loop and a water distribution backplate.

@Squashed8Ball

10 ай бұрын

@@PainterVierax semantics

It'd be cool if you looked at one of the water cooled 7900XTXs too they are crazy overclockers. (Asrock or Powercolor) sapphire's toxic version isn't out yet .

I purchased a Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce, which is Gigabyte's equivalent AIO graphics card solution. The primary advantage of AIO-based graphics cards is the flexibility to position the radiator away from other components, especially when venting heat into the atmosphere rather than within the case. This same principle applies to CPU AIOs, where the goal is to exhaust heat into the atmosphere. The benefit of this setup is that the case temperature remains relatively low, preventing other components from being subjected to excessive AIo fan-generated heat. It's important to note that your case should be designed to facilitate this cooling approach. In my case, the Lian Li Lan Cool III proved to be an excellent choice for achieving optimal cooling performance.

Imagine what a SLI two Matrix GPU setup would look like if SLI was still available.

Really interested about those cryo sheet tests! A solution that you newer have to fix/remake is what I hope for my rig. Now i use nano carbon sheet with 5800x3d and so far have been really happy with results… Next something to GPU…

GPU prices were fair up to RTX 2000 series. Prices today are insane. This is so sad.

@Z3t487

11 ай бұрын

I want to read comments like "Are you poor?" but i can't find them yet 😢

@0002pA

11 ай бұрын

"were fair up to RTX 2000 series" - Absolutely not. If you genuinely think that, then the marketing from back then has worked on you.

@robertstan298

11 ай бұрын

Up to (but not including) Fk the RTX 2000 cards too

@oktusprime3637

11 ай бұрын

Nah, the RTX 20 series is when things got whack with a $1000 2080 Ti that didn’t exist (retail models were all $1100+).

@smileybroccoli6709

11 ай бұрын

It's not gonna get cheaper either. Before it was because of Bitcoin farms, now it is because of AI farms.

You really did manage to keep a straight face at the end

The last minute of that video was actually pretty funny.

What a great moment to present the holy grail 4090 - in the eyes of the upcoming 5090. Genius!

@atavusable

11 ай бұрын

They probably struggled with the board design and the metal liquid cooling. Now for the next card, they will make it faster.

@turtleman2217

11 ай бұрын

What about the bare copper... Not nickel plated.

@Druze_Tito

10 ай бұрын

@@atavusable maybe. If it follows the same design layout and tdp. We'll see.

@atavusable

10 ай бұрын

@@Druze_Tito If you have a 360 rad I doubt you can't handle any current GPU TDP.

Rtx 4070 is around 750$ in my country, it's beyond insane ...

Have you benchmarked the MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090? I have had one for about 5 months and I absolutely love it. I think the highest I've seen it hit was 62C with ambient at 22-24C. $1800 USD MSRP

That’s the most beautiful gpu I’ve ever seen. Can’t wait to see it in my build! In 15 years

Usually hate content that is outside my reach/something i would never consider buying. But this video does make buying a normal 4090 make a little more sense (which is very hard to do). Well played!

The frame it comes in is certainly pretty. I like it better than the usual Founder's Edition look.

That's an incredible advertisement for the KryoSheet. I'd love to see more testing with it. In 10 seconds, I went from never considered to I'm probably going to buy. Further testing replicating the results here would turn me to a definite buy. Maybe an affiliate link in the future so you can get a cut of the purchases?

That kryosheet data is interesting! I put one on my 7800X3D. Would still be interested in seeing it on more GPUs. I dunno if I’ll ever take mine apart to put that in but a big enough decrease in temps would tempt me.

I for one would love to see any testing you do with the Thermal Grizzly Kryosheets!

What a lovely price tag. I think I'll buy a few of them then. ;-)

For those of you that havent been made aware if you're running really nice hardware with Starfield off an HDD you need to run it off an SSD if your experiencing a bunch of stuttering, switching from my 12TB Toshiba N300 to my WD Black SN770 pretty much erased all the stutters on my 3090 Ti LC and 10900K

As long as you can't increase the Voltage you just can't get much more out of her. My "normal" 4090 runs stable at around 2955 MHz and that already seems to be the lower end of what you can expect pretty much any 4090 to reach. So as long as ASUS isn't binning the GPUs for this version especially, you might end up with a similar performance as anybody else with a 4090 for more than double the price.

That’s a lot of price and weight just to get outperformed by the next gen 80 series

@VcSaJen

11 ай бұрын

5080 will be equivalent of xx60 card, for the price of xx90 Ti.

I really miss cards like this despite the bad value proposition. This reminds me of those ASUS ARES and MARS models as well as that on-card AIO ASUS Matrix RTX 2080 Ti I believe it was? MSI too had some unique models back in the day with the GTX 780 Lightning and there were most certainly other cool GPUs on the market too, barely any of which we have these days.

@CrongTech

11 ай бұрын

NVIDIA locking voltage killed this insane over the top cards.

@JZF629

11 ай бұрын

@@CrongTechthey did it because too many ppl would be stupid and fry their cards, then try and RMA them like it wasn’t their fault.

@mrdali67

11 ай бұрын

For what it is, it's a very nice looking card ,, but it also gotta be at that price, but absolutely redicolous that it's not even 1% faster than their own "normal" OC version for all that money, I'd rather buy 2x ROG Strix and make 2 Monster Gaming machines, one with a 7950X3D and one with a 14900K just because I could, to have a build for whatever is the fastest setup for each game 😂

@adonromadhon3630

11 ай бұрын

we have? are you delusional?

@summushieremiasclarkson4700

11 ай бұрын

@@JZF629 That was never an issue, those RMAs always get rejected. It's very easy to detect overvoltage damage. RMA logistics were always paid by the customer too.

I love it how sponsorblock just skipped to the highlight being $4000 then proceeded to skip the rest of video

@Hardwareunboxed

10 ай бұрын

Good way to learn nothing.

Great vid! The only thing that would make this product better is if it came out in the GPU boom so we could see these things selling for 8k on eBay.

Asus has a problem with prices and quality control, is not as bad as Gigabyte but they are getting there... but the real problem with Asus right now is unrealistic price vs features in their line of products.

@FenrirAlter

11 ай бұрын

Also dog shit Software, bad customer service(atleast in Germany) and pretty bad motherboards since years now. Which kinda also shows on the newer gpus if u look at the board

I'm not dumb enough to spend 4 digits on a graphics card but it looks cool I guess as a science project.

That cryosheet seemed really good. Would like to see more of that on GPUs to see the diffrence.

looks well built and thought out. i'd pick one up but my 4090 rog strix does everything i need and oc's well and it's white! it would be great for someone who wants to get the best of he best, buy and forget for 10 years and have $4k less lol

I think it would be cool if you could detach the toobs and hook it up to your own custom loop

@TripmasterG

10 ай бұрын

Why? You could save over $2000 starting from scratch with a reference model 4090 and watercooling it. Good luck finding a plate that fits this custom PCB...

@lordgrape5015

10 ай бұрын

@TripmasterG No, I mean to keep the housing and block that's already on it and attach fittings to it to keep the look. Besides, I think this gen of Amd and Nvidia gpus are worth skipping. I'll consider an upgrade after seeing what the high-end 5090 and rdna 4 look like.

The card looks awesome, i really love their design choice. Buuuut... That price. Ouch. I could build one hell of a gaming system for that price, WITH a normal 4090 in it. I think i'll pass on the Matrix 🤣

A head to head in performance/ price with a RX 5700 XT/ 6650 XT or even a RTX 4070 could be fun though =) *And I am a little bit confused why the Founders Edition is not tested overclocked?!* Is it not possible? ... Because after all the design is this the cleanest for these RTX cards and would still be my choice in a "titanium build" in maybe a Fractal Design North case.

I’m glad to hear you stayed hydrated; that’s very important for your health.

As succinctly as I can put it... It's a very pretty, finished product. But for $4000? You could literally buy a normal 4090, GPU block, liquid cooling gear for a custom loop, the liquid metal for the die (or one of those thermal sheets idk) all for less than Asus is asking for this. Hell, I could do a whole build with a 7900xt, for less than this thing.

The ROG matrix cards used to be my go to card - they were always so cool looking compared to the standard cards. With the way things overclock today and the cooling performance of most of the coolers - this is now a buy it if you like the way it looks type of card, that's about it.

@neoqueto

7 ай бұрын

Can't really blame Asus for that, for the last 10 years, generation after generation Nvidia had been locking down every OC setting possible and VBIOS. It's not just disappointing from a consumer choice standpoint, it makes cards much more boring too. Remember when any AIB (when we used to call them that) could add RAM onto their own PCB if they wanted to? These days they don't even have a say about the power configuration.

You know it's a slow news week when we're all tuning in to watch a review of a 4090 that costs the same as two 4090s. Wake me up when September ends.

Steve has the biggest balls to be taking apart a $4000 US card!!! Good god thats eye watering!!!

They are INSANE over at Asus! The price point off 3200$ US, is just nuts....

Thank you HU! More tests with the Kryosheet would be awesome!

For me, this was more a video about TG's Cryosheets. I got one for my 5900X and 5800X 3D, and within 2-3 degrees of high end paste performance. I'm sold. Best part is, I can buy 160 of them for what I'd pay for one Matrix.

Did they fix the issue with the 12+4pin? My ASUS (not so) TUF Gaming 4090 just died from a failed 12+4pin. I used to think those failures were because of incorrectly connected cables etc.. but mine had a perfectly flush connection with my CableMod 90° adapter and it still died. The Adapter is fused in place, can't be removed, so a pretty strong indicator that it's melted inside. If you want to see pics of the connection, I posted it on X (Twitter). To their credit, CableMod did reply to my post, but of course there was no reply from ASUS NA. So everyone saying there's an inherent flaw in these 12+4pin connectors is/was 100% correct.

The ASUS store has it listed for $3199 USD with the notify option...not that is any better.

12:40 Insert Lego Batman Laugh

....So! The good news is we now know the baseline price for the normal 5090

The subtle laugh when your telling us the name of the card 😆😂

For almost half the price you can do it by yourself with a custom watercooling and it will perform better

@Safetytrousers

10 ай бұрын

Another 4090 is not likely to perform better.

This 4090 costs as much as my all white 4090 build. Damn.

Thank you for your sacrifice. I'm looking forward to seeing more about these thermal sheets

Jeez and I thought I had watery eyes when I picked up a ROG Strix LC 4090 OC for £1850 GBP. The Matrix looks cool but that really is where it ends. It is a showcase card not aimed at the consumer, so price is (relatively) irrelevant. The test thermals aren't that far from mine in Cyber 2077 and my fans are going crazy either. Granted i'd rather have a triple rad for ultra low noise but.... Sheesh. Deffo looking at the Kryosheets for my CPU & GPU on the next service.

the msi suprim is $1800 in newegg right now. You can buy 2 of those and have $400 to spend on whatever you'd like.

Price aside, gotta say that's the most beautiful GPU i've ever seen with my eyes

Well, that was awkward. I had a RTX 20x0 with AiO once, when EVGA was still around and the whole thing was more affordable, and you really only want those cards for peace of mind on the hotter days and for the lower dust accumulation. As usual, the memory isn't included in the cooling circuit for some reason. In general, if you've got a good case, then there is no need for one.

Love that you still reviewed it!

Thanks for testing different thermal compounds, the kryosheet results were very surprising

And the whole family can gather around it to warm up on a cold day.

I would like to know, what exactly does justify the 4K USD pricetag. I get that it is a product that takes a little bit extra out of a top product card, but that top product card has a 1.6K USD MSRP. You can get a second 4090 for that money and you still will have extra to spare. It just... doesn't compute.

Somewhat surprising to see LM with a copper cooler plate. I wonder if the plate is pre-treated with LM/gallium to forestall the LM 'drying out' as a first application usually does with copper?

Only $3600, while supplies last. They're probably sold out already. Plus I doubt they keep many behind the scenes for warranty.

it's like watching car video's of cars you won't ever drive...I like it!

This gpu looks awesome. Id be pissed if the 12vhpwr connector on this gpu melted though. That GPU Tweak3 is very interesting though. If that app could make the GPU run in safe mode automatically when detecting high temps on the connectors, that would be a great work around. Wish that type of safe guard were available for all 12vhpwr gpus.

This price is meant to make 50 series a bargain. 5090 for only $3,000?! What a bargain.