Asus offered to fly out to GN headquarters to talk about this to Steve and his team. When Steve said they would record the whole conversation, Asus never responded.

@doctorno3912

Жыл бұрын

For those who dare

@iamaduckquack

Жыл бұрын

They wouldn't want to be recorded trying to pay them to keep quiet now would they.

@buruzn09

Жыл бұрын

More timid than NewEgg 😂

@Nicko0316

11 ай бұрын

Heard they had a shakedown about one year ago with their management team. This is when things have probably started to change

@sikwitit773

11 ай бұрын

​@@buruzn09what Newegg do?

As a former ASUS employee, none of this surprises me. After laying me off, they tried to push me into signing a form that said I would never say anything negative about ASUS, its current/future products, or current/future employees. If I do ever say anything negative, they assured me they would take legal action. Since I didn't sign it, I received no severance pay (they offered a paltry 3 weeks' pay if I signed), which goes against the whole "we're a family" thing that they push on you from the moment you join. Edit: For those asking, the document was called a "Non-disparagement agreement" and while it wasn't illegal at the time, such practices have been outlawed in the US since. I would guess that they don't use this practice any longer, but they did when I was laid off last year.

@cj.wijtmans

Жыл бұрын

Classic example of marketing/financial department calling the shots in a corp environment. That is a death sentence for a tech hardware business. Just a matter of time.

@TheStruggleFest

Жыл бұрын

@@cj.wijtmans nvida and evga partnership is prime (no pun intended) example.

@SahajPS

Жыл бұрын

Asus is indeed a sus

@tiexiaowang7939

Жыл бұрын

If that's in the US, it certainly sounds like it would violate some labor laws

@beetle3088

Жыл бұрын

​@@tiexiaowang7939 not really. There's not much in the law requiring severance, so companies often give decent severance in exchange for the employee signing a waiver of some kind so that they can't sue.

gotta love a guy whos not afraid to roast one of his sponsors. shows where your loyalty is at. im not even a regular viewer or heavy into pc stuff. mad respect man keep it up!

@NkenKenY

2 ай бұрын

so what motherboard should i buy for my intel 11 gen? please someone!!!

@BloodBullet1880

2 ай бұрын

@@NkenKenY Go with Gigabyte or MSI. These are the best ones out there rn

@shlomogoldstein3373

2 ай бұрын

​@@NkenKenYone that has the things you need. Just pick one in your budget dude it's not that complicated

@kkmdew09

2 ай бұрын

@@NkenKenY I am making a new build soon and I will be going with MSI most likely, I have heard the Z chipset boards by Asus have had other problems too unrelated to the problems mentioned in this video.

This deeply upsets me. My first RMA experience with ASUS was phenomenal. I purchased one of their high end X58 boards and it went DOA within three months. I called their outstanding (at the time) US based support, and they sent me another board with no questions asked. The new one arrived, I shipped out the old one, and that was it. It was an experience that made me an ASUS customer for life and I haven’t bothered looking at other brands since. Asus used to have a hands on culture with their community. I remember downloading beta bios for that board from a community forum sponsored by Asus. Their community managers used to offer these and they would not void your warranty. So sad.

@liorsilverstein9802

6 ай бұрын

beta bios will void your warranty as we speak, also users with a faulty motherboard under warranty, received another faulty motherboard, and so on until 3 or more motherboards were ditched. Moral of the story, ASUS motherboards are faulty and need to address their quality control, it could be a motherboard for a 700 US computer or a 4k computer, they do not care. At the end they are chinese and their quality sucks . The components not made by asus are absolutely great, but ASUS is failing with their components.

@sbme1147

4 ай бұрын

Same here. I used to do the same like, hmmm, 20 years ago or so IIRC.

@smacktics

4 ай бұрын

I am currently in the process of getting my Asus Mobo warrantied. There was no contact number and when I requested the RMA the response was we will either repair it or send a replacement that is equal or better than what I had. Once they received it I got an automated email saying they basically make no promises about repair time due to covid (still as of January 4th 2024) and made no mention of any sort of replacement regarding if it would take a while to source the necessary parts needed to repair. So I'm just left wondering if I should wait an unknown amount of time or just buy myself a new board.

@liorsilverstein9802

4 ай бұрын

@@smacktics get lenovo next time, 4 years warranty premium costs nothing (sometime you get it for free with a coupon) and they will send you people or replacements to your own place.

@9005mie

2 ай бұрын

Nah fuck Asus

I absolutely love that tech youtubers band together and call a company out on it's bullsh*t. Average people get screwed and have zero power to do anything about it. But you guys have such a big reach to so many people that it gives a voice to all of us and holds these guys accountable. So thanks.

@tavanium

Жыл бұрын

Yes to everything you said.

@trajan8474

Жыл бұрын

We have tremendous power, IF we're willing to wield it. It's called "not buying their bullshit". Hit them in their wallets and you'll see these anti-consumer practices come to a stop pretty f*cking quick. Same goes for Nvidia right now and their outrageous prices for the 40 series.

@lldjslim

Жыл бұрын

Now it's time to call out AMD because they are guilty as charged, too

@racerex340

Жыл бұрын

@@trajan8474 This is the way! I have historically loved ASUS products, I have TUF and STRIX GPU's, two X570 Crosshair Dark Hero Mobo's, three ROG Zephyrus laptops + two Zenbook, and I won't spend a dime on anything Asus until they pull their head out of their own ass and start treating their customers as though we are the actual lifeblood of their company. I've been fortunate enough to avoid any major issues myself, but I built an X670E crosshair + 7900X and a Z790 STRIX + 13700K rigs for friends and both have had insane issues with stability, blue screens, entire USB hub with all devices just disappearing, and seeing all of the issues that others have had, it's clear that ASUS got drunk on all of that pandemic cash, pulled an Nvidia with prices, started cheaping out limiting features that used to be available on mid-tier $250 motherboards and made them only available on their top-tier $700+ products, they forgot how they got to where they are. The only way that they'll learn is if we hit them in the only place that it counts, their P&L sheets.

@nickloeschke8209

Жыл бұрын

​@@lldjslim how so? AMD has flat out said they will warranty any CPU that has failed this way... Meanwhile Asus does everything they can to avoid any responsibility at all and blaming users for trusting them. AMD rightly got roasted for the vapor chamber issues, but this really isn't at all the same....

Wow. This is literally putting your money where your mouth is. Huge Kudos, Jay!

@CoffeeFresh_

Жыл бұрын

💰👄

@LoneWanderer905

Жыл бұрын

Thought the same. I'm not even a Jay fan, but this deserves a ton of respect.

@MD-ws3qu

Жыл бұрын

Until next week

@knightmaremedia7795

Жыл бұрын

No doubt!

@GetOffMyPhoneGoogle

Жыл бұрын

ESG will be the end of any quality expectations of companies. You all need to really look into what ESG is.

I wish I had not been 3 months late seeing this video. It would have changed my mind on dealing with an Asus product period. I purchased a ROG gaming router and had an issue with the routers software, I contacted Asus' support. Jay is absolutely correct about their support being a joke. Every time I called or emailed about the routers software issue, they wouldn't even get the issue I was having correct. I kept getting the line, "You will be contacted by higher tier support within 24-28 hours". I was NEVER contacted by 'Higher Tier' support. Just stuck with the form readers in India that never helped me. So, never again will I buy another Asus product!

It was absolutely by chance that I found this video. I'm looking at finally building a new rig and was researching the 4090. I've been a huge ASUS fan in the past, many years ago. When EVGA ducked out, I started looking at replacement vendors, and a lot of people were moving toward ASUS. I didn't give it another thought. Thank you so very much for the straight talk! Absolutely, if the post-sale experience is shit then what's the point. I'm very grateful to have viewed this. Subscribing!

@oddball6992

4 ай бұрын

I was looking at the 4090, this has made me think 🤔

@Rickcrazy100

3 ай бұрын

@@oddball6992 not an ASUS fan by any means...but the graphics cards are actually solid...not sure about the RMA and customer service AFTER it goes bad...but I've built some pc's the last few years and didn't have any issues with ASUS gpu's...even though I'm running a Gigabyte on mine (bc it was on sale lol)...but on motherboards I've ran a couple MSI's and AsRocks...and 2 EVGA DARK and all were absolutelly flawless...had 1 msi board come defective but got another one delivered in 36 hours...F Asus

@robertcras8151

3 ай бұрын

So what are you going to buy now?

@user-mx5we1li2l

20 күн бұрын

@@robertcras8151 Actually, the consumers do not have much choices. 2 companies are the illusion of choice.

@Puzzoozoo

14 күн бұрын

Same, I have an Asus in my 12 year old PC, and when I build my new PC soon it won't have an Asus motherboard.

You saying ASUS is no longer worthy of being a sponsor for the channel means alot to me as a viewer and consumer. To know that you have us in your mind first and foremost before making a video or accepting a deal proves to me that you are a very trustworthy guy. Thank you for everything, Jay. Here's to another 11 years of content!

@UnlikelyVentures

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@rdejaynes

Жыл бұрын

read my post I think he is off the mark possibly!

@manucodalunga8893

Жыл бұрын

It could also mean a major negotiation to return ;)

@Housestationlive

Жыл бұрын

the thing is it's not random hate for audience. it's experience, and multiplication of misfortunes which are not coincidences. i totally understand the point of that video, as a customer perspective. and at the end of the day, even if it's coincidence, it's up to asus to prove the opposite at this point of dissatisfaction. i'm still considering asus proart monitors but for pc parts such as motherboard, that video will definitely influence my influence, for my own customers when i build machines for others. nice to meet you devil. i'm michael from france.

If you have any ASUS products that are part of this issue, be sure to file a complaint with the FTC, so they can bolster their investigation of ASUS.

@ghomerhust

Жыл бұрын

THIS NEEDS TO BE PINNED

@Tarvoskemwer

Жыл бұрын

addition: report it to your ombudsman if you have one in your country of residence. An ombudsman is an appointed official whose duty is to investigate complaints, generally on behalf of individuals such as consumers or taxpayers, against institutions such as companies and government departments.

@boltinabottle6307

Жыл бұрын

@@Tarvoskemwer Unfortunately in the US, we don't have ombudsman. Members of the house of reps will often fill this role in an informal capacity, but they are not really required to. It just depends on whether or not your local rep actually cares about looking out for the people.

@honoryhonra

Жыл бұрын

Love this topic where it goes nowhere. Nothing will happen, should nlknow by now imao

@DeltaSierra426

Жыл бұрын

The BBB as well because it's just sheisty as a heck with what's been going on.

As a company they have definitely gone down hill. they refused to replace my 5 month old defective power adapter for my laptop after MAKING me send it in for trouble shooting even though i told them i was pretty sure the adapter was the issue. I had to pay over $20 for shipping and then they said it was customer induced damage and wanted me to pay $116 for the adapter. ON THE INVOICE it says the adapter is $25, the AC cord is $4, LABOR $60, and shipping back to me was another $20... oh plus tax... Labor for sending me a part that costs more than the part??? What is happening over there?!

The brands need to understand, it's not about being perfect and not having any issues with your products, it's about the willing to solve those issues, and the way you treat your customers in the process.

@twoc400s5

Жыл бұрын

💯

@btbarr16

Жыл бұрын

Exactly! Shit happens. We get that, but don't gaslight and try to fuck over your customers with a fix that voids the warranty. How a business handles a problem I have with their product leaves a lasting impression far more than the product or the problem. There sad thing that ASUS doesn't understand is that people are so used to bad customer service that it doesn't take a lot to leave a good impression. Be upfront and honor your warranty without making people jump through hoops, and people will think your customer service is fucking amazing.

@Kruscle

Жыл бұрын

That's why EVGA is well respected and supported in leaving the GPU market. I had a 2070 for roughly 2 years and then a 3070. They've been great cards and when I had to RMA my 3070 they were fast at getting a replacement.

@resudeew2636

Жыл бұрын

Yep..that's what he said.

@MrLandslide84

Жыл бұрын

@@Kruscle I do hope they come back one day. Maybe make some Radeon boards. I loved EVGA. I bought 4 of their cards over the years. Why change brands if it works? And they work solidly. They do not pump out shit.

Ive been hearing since my childhood over and over again that whenever you need a part you can trust, go for ASUS. Sad to hear this era is over.

@Hjorth87

Жыл бұрын

It's been my go to brand as well. Bummer....

@bontexx

Жыл бұрын

Same, looks like it's over.

@TrggrWarning

Жыл бұрын

Same or EVGA feeling a lil lost.

@femboygaming8931

Жыл бұрын

This seems to be a really common sentiment towards them, but it really confuses me because I've had the complete opposite experience with them, I've pretty much only ever heard negative things about their products, support and pretty much everything else. I have 2 rog monitors which are great but other than that everything else has been negative. like one of those small tablet laptop things that i got about 4 years ago and barely used because it ran so shit it was literally unusable and just stopped working about a year or 2 later.

@TrggrWarning

Жыл бұрын

@@2leggedpirate265 good point I’m speaking from my experience though. Didn’t have a choice on EVGA I will be starting from scratch researching parts for new build. Id probably do this anyway and should but ASUS & EVGA earned basically some trust.

In 2019 I bought a mid-range gaming laptop for about $970. (Intel-i7 9th gen and a GTX 1650) Being the ignorant teenager I was, I didn't get the 2+ year warranty and instead opted for the three month free one. Six months later my fan has become noticeably louder and my cpu and gpu is nice and toasty. I did some research and it turns out that the model I got had a severe manufacturing defect that cause the fans to grind on the bottom of the case. This wasn't just my laptop. Tens of thousands of these laptops were defective and ASUS didn't even attempt to notify me. As you can guess, they refused to give me a refund or replacement because my warranty expired. I just can't believe they didn't do a total recall of these faulty laptops. Disgusting.

What you guys are doing is absolutly what we consumers need, thank you.

@dIggl3r

8 ай бұрын

I'm just watching this video now, I just bought a B650 Rog Strix E-F and I'm almost afraid to start building the system... 😧

@d4rkshadowkillerd471

8 ай бұрын

​@dIggl3r thats the board I was planning to buy ahhh

@JohnjOcampo

2 ай бұрын

​@@dIggl3r Did it give you problems?

@dIggl3r

2 ай бұрын

@@JohnjOcampo None, absolutely perfect for me, nothing bad to say about it. 😀

Massive respect to you for doing this

@lavanyamsc6305

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@mgoncalves2011

Жыл бұрын

👍

@surojitdebnath2475

Жыл бұрын

Nice

@pujaslife3666

Жыл бұрын

Hi

@supriyakorsipati8289

Жыл бұрын

Nice

Wow. I don’t think I’ve ever heard Jay be that upset with a manufacturer. Well done for saying it straight

@IWearShoes31

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me when Linus was super pissed at Nvidia when they were strong arming small tech KZread channels

@WhiteNinjainblack

Жыл бұрын

​@@IWearShoes31I believe that was abut Hardware Unboxed. Nvidia didnt send review sample to them and then Nvidia had there slap on wrists from majority of tech chanels.

Thank you for sharing this. It's about time I change things up a bit too by trying a different brand - glad I saw this as I'm just starting on my next build. I'm having a similar issue with Samsung and their support... or lack thereof. Their marketing has outpaced their quality.

Thank you very much for this. I am in the process of researching products for my next build. I now know to stay away from Asus. You have our backs instead of just milking a sponsor regardless. Huge respect.

Huge respect to you for sticking by your integrity on the channel and your trust to us, the consumers. Thank you Jay.

@crodude743

Жыл бұрын

Jay and integrity, give me a break...

@BeeWaifu

Жыл бұрын

Consumers? I'm not eating electronics!

@c0348whn

Жыл бұрын

@@crodude743 cope

@cosmiczeppelin

Жыл бұрын

@@crodude743 He might've had some questionable advice in the past, but he's giving up a sponsor, because he isn't happy with the company's conduct and products anymore. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

@nickcifarelli8887

Жыл бұрын

@@crodude743 SAY WHAT NOW?

ASUS used to be known as 'the best' motherboard brand. Well, times change.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

Yep, I always used ASUS motherboards for decades in my builds and never had a problem, looks like I will have to start researching other brands when it is time to build the next rig if they do not get their act together.

@IIShana-chan

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! I remember well spending a fortune on the VIII Maximus, cause it was one of the best. MSI has improved so much, they already have overtook ASUS already imo

@multi21racing

Жыл бұрын

@@anydaynow01 Honestly every mainboard brand has its issues, the issues with Asus probably just crossed the line now. Gigabyte releases a board where PCIe 4.0 doesnt work, the original Z690 Gaming X had a long ass boot time... AsRock has some boards with mediocre VRMs and BIOS support especially with the fast changing AGESA is sometimes lacking (non-ATX board tho so probably a bit niche). MSI BIOS is literally just overall crap (not only the layout, but it plain and simply ignores some settings like OC via Ratio offset...). Bottomline is: just buy the board that is equipped with the stuff you need and hope for the best.

@igordasunddas3377

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it used to be a no-brainer. If I had the money, I'd always use a decent Asus board. Well turns out not anymore.

@metallica520771

Жыл бұрын

I bought a TUF board because it's the successor to the Sabretooth series. up until this point Asus was My go to brand My next board will not be an Asus board.

I have a ROG Maximus 9 hero Z270 and was thinking of upgrading to a newer one and now ASUS is just not one of the motherboards I'm gunna look at. Thanks for this great video and it really gives me confidence in the selection of product you guys choose.

I understand and support you completely. This behavior by Asus is unacceptable. Thank you for informing everyone about this!

This is the kind of content we need. "We don't grade brands on their problems. We grade brands on how they handle those problems". And that statement captures everything a supplying company needs to know and do when they claim to "put the customer first in all we do". Well said, JayZ.

@Jake-mn1qc

7 ай бұрын

> ""We don't grade brands on their problems. We grade brands on how they handle those problems". And that statement captures everything a supplying company needs to know " Wrong. You start by avoiding mistakes as best as you can in the first place, period. Don't praise a company for fixing tons of issues, praise a company that has a little to begin with, while still fixing issues quickly. Imagine that you're constantly making mistakes at work. Even if you fix your mistakes every time, at one point they're going to be fed up with you, and fire you.

Glad people are holding companies accountable if they mistreat their customers. A lot of solid tech tubers giving us the info we need.

@goopah

Жыл бұрын

Yep. For instance, I still haven't bought anything through NewEgg after that fiasco. Assuming your customers are trying to pull a fast one on you is never forgivable unless they do it multiple times and it becomes obvious. Never assume your customers are your enemies.

@amurilx719

11 ай бұрын

No one holding anyone to anything it’s just advertising for them self wake up take a look at the world around you and see the truth

@IamYourPilotXD

11 ай бұрын

​@@amurilx719 ?

Something must have changed in recent years, because Asus used to be highly reliable for me. I purchased an Asus laptop over a decade ago that served it's purpose well, then their desktop hardware worked great for a couple builds. I'm currently on my 2nd TUF MB, I think the first one was my fault, but now I'm not so sure.

6:37 the "Frick" gets me everytime😂

You Nailed it with your statement. "every brand has issues, it's how they handle it is what matters to me". This is why I am sad that EVGA is gone from graphic cards.

@theonlyone38

Жыл бұрын

what's weird about the whole thing? Asus isn't nearly as bad when we talk about the GPU side of things, but they need to be universal in their approach.

@shanez1215

Жыл бұрын

​@theonlyone38 They're not, but ultimately, it's their name on the box, so the whole company benefits even if Jay only allows the good parts to sponsor him.

@schweppesoriginal9265

Жыл бұрын

Im gonna miss EVGA, my 1070 is still running since they released it

@Tater76

Жыл бұрын

@@schweppesoriginal9265 My friend is still using my old EVGA GTX 1070.

@disguiseddv8ant486

Жыл бұрын

I love Asus. I got ROG Strix stickers. Joy!

Asus really fucked me over recently. I bought a new 3090TI from them, paid msrp, owned the card for roughly 8 months and it died. They sent me a used one that had scratches and sharpie all over it. I eventually got ahold of the ceo office and after threatening a lawsuit and they agreed to send me a new one. I appreciate they accepted but it wasn’t fair to pay MSRP for a used card.

The frustrating thing about your CPU socket situation is that had it been any other regular consumer without backchannels to go through, they'd have just claimed that the customer damaged it themselves and refuse to provide any further support.

@sentryfox

Жыл бұрын

That's exactly what happened to me with Crosshair Impact VIII SSD board. Screws were screwed in so tight it was impossible to remove them. Asus support claimed it was my fault, and to get it fixed i had to pay for the shipping. Never buying another Asus product again. Absolute scumbags.

@Dylan-nv9sc

Жыл бұрын

This is why I only pay with credit cards (besides the points). Companies tend to fix their shit when you bring up chargebacks.

@HFRG-zq1qm

Жыл бұрын

@@Dylan-nv9sc not all credit cards offer chargebacks. And many of the ones that do reflect it negatively on your credit report when you do it.

@nickspacemonkey

Жыл бұрын

@@HFRG-zq1qm That's complete BS.

@JonathanBradysouth-africa

Жыл бұрын

100% Tim

Good going posting this man mad respect..

Used your videos to build my first pc this weekend, love the channel. Mega Man box in the background is all I can think of.

I run a computer shop in the UK, and two years ago we dumped the Asus brand from our product range. I cannot begin to explain the incompetence of this company; their RMA system is an absolute joke and they make zero effort to resolve any issues with their products. Great video and I hope it gets shared by millions.

@MrHiyasu

11 ай бұрын

We have just returned out last ASUS Mb. Failed, could not read any memory. ASUS did not seem to care especially as it was the 3rd in a row. Switched to Gigabyte who's build quality has got better an better. I applaud this stand taken against stupidity. We will not purchase any more of their products as they cannot be trusted.

@firecat6666

11 ай бұрын

@@MrHiyasu You're saying Gigabyte has gotten better but I had a 15+ year old cheap motherboard from them that only recently bricked. Now I'm going to assemble a new PC and for the first time in my life I'm researching hardware info so I know what to buy, but I've been reading some pretty poor commentary about their recent stuff. Does that mean they went downhill from 15 years ago and are just now recovering?

@MrHiyasu

11 ай бұрын

@@firecat6666 Gigabyte went through a rough patch some years ago, but pulled itself together in regarding the build quality. It also spent time on making driver updates simple and easy so the the users had no excuse for being out of date. We tried 1 board as an experiment and then purchased 10 more. They all installed without a hitch. Since then we have a lot more on order. But due to internal reasons the machines stay at Intel i5 gen 12 utilising D4 RAM, as to uplift required weeks of testing so this will go into planning later this year, but the present performance is more than adequate for their purposes.

@firecat6666

11 ай бұрын

@@MrHiyasu Thanks for the reply. That's good to hear, though I'm still a bit skeptical because of that recently found vulnerability on their motherboard autoupdater software, but that should be easy for them to fix, unlike what ASUS has to fix, which is their entire company, lol. If you don't mind, you seem to work with computer parts, do you have any recommendation for motherboard brands? I'm not looking for anything fancy, all I need is a motherboard that "just works" and can withstand many years of some 4-8 hours of daily use (like the cheap Gigabyte one I had before). Unfortunately where I live the vast majority of options available are from ASUS, and the ones that aren't are mostly Gigabyte. There are a few options from other brands but I don't know which brands are good or bad.

@zedsuo11

11 ай бұрын

@@MrHiyasu What are the best motherboard brands in your opinion?

Integrity is what you're showing here, Jay. This is why I am still watching after 10 years. Thank you.

@justinvanhorne8859

Жыл бұрын

Yeah! maybe one day these youtubers wont just piggyback each other. The shilling is much stronger than truth, just remember that friends.

@saramae9878

Жыл бұрын

More like whining

@spuddyl9938

Жыл бұрын

@@saramae9878 And the next video is gonna be how he forgives Asus and they can be sponsors again.

@marcusschmidt5103

Жыл бұрын

@@spuddyl9938 ive they make good products and have the very best support,so he says+++

@saramae9878

Жыл бұрын

@@spuddyl9938 Lol probably

Really appreciate the video and you using your platform to make a stand. Hope it makes a difference down the road with asus , but even if it does not , at least folks that seen this will do their research before blindly buying “xxxx” brand. I kind of wish one of the big KZreadrs such as you or GN would maybe go the extra mile and give folks a solution in instances like this. Like hey this company is less $hit, here was our blind support experience with each one. Possibly do a video on the big companies support process. Maybe take 5 or more random parts from random vendors and go through the warranty process as the average joe and show your experience. Kind of like a secret shopper. Could even have viewers that maybe have a defective product in warranty send them in for you to use as a test case. I know it’s not gonna be a huge sample size . However if you had 10 instances with motherboards or video cards with Asus, MSI or Gigabyte and 7 out of 10 positive with one brand and 3 out of 10 with the others … I feel like it would empower the viewers. Viewers would maybe speak with their $$$ and force the $hit vendors to step up. Because as an average consumer it’s hard to pick one brand. Reddit is full of people crapping on each brand lol. I mean I get it , folks are less likely to go on Reddit and say wow I had the best time ever. Some do, but folks are more likely to go out of their way to complain about a bad one. I dunno just a thought. Kind of like your “which brand we can trust in 2022” video but with more in depth look into the actual RMA of each. Which that video kind blew my mind with how much asus went down in a year. Either way thanks for all that you do in your videos and keep being you ❤

I'll definitely keep an eye out going forward, especially with future generations. However, I've been using ASUS as my main motherboard since my Pentium II SCSI machine. I've never had any issues including with my most recent computer, although it's a ROG machine already put together along with my ASUS TUF laptop. That's like 26 years of ASUS, but I definitely don't want backwards capacitors.

@SunnyDeLite

5 ай бұрын

Imagine supporting a company that says here let me fix an issue for you but if you use it you can’t use your warranty if anything happens. That’s some real shill behavior. Doesn’t matter if they were good in the past when they are doing what they are doing

That beta bios move, supposedly fixing the issue, yet voiding the warranty (in small letters) is utterly sickening and disgusting. Thank you for sharing this.

@beardsntools

Жыл бұрын

Nah mate. If you're tech savvy enough to install a bios update to fix a problem.. you should know to never flash beta software for something so serious as BIOS(which is actually UEFI now, but we are calling it BIOS). This is really mostly your fault. Obviously Asus screwed up big time with that ryzen chip overclocking bios, but the warning was there: Installing beta bios voids warranty... this is mostly users fault. Also there are always risks with overclocking and it isn't allowed by the cpu manufacturer, so that voids the cpu warranty too. So it is the user's fault. Maybe take responsibility for your own actions? I really don't have sympathy for those who fried cpus because they knew the risk, or should had known.

@17Beastmode17

Жыл бұрын

​@@beardsntools Get off their dick, bro. Maybe in the past you could say "if they're smart enough to install it, they're smart enough to know the risks" but with a tutorial for everything, people can punch above their weight installing things, but they might not have the tools or know how to check voltages. Nice try, shill/I hope they see this

@eljoanthonynj6817

Жыл бұрын

​@@beardsntools Reading and listening comprehension fail. Keep it up.

@toad7395

Жыл бұрын

​@@beardsntools you need to go back to school buddy

@filiplaskovski9993

Жыл бұрын

I bet whoever actioned this from Asus is rethinking his life choices

We love unbiased honesty. Thanks for keeping it real, Jay.

my gt510 case had every fan installed backwards, 3 front fans pushing air out of the case, with a filter, like the dirty air from inside the case is gonna mess my room 😂😂😂

This is wild, I hadn't heard of all the issues lately with Asus. I've been a fanboy of theirs for coming on around 20 years - specifically for motherboards - because they've had great quality control and reliability. My last build was a Z77 Asus Sabertooth motherboard back in 2016 and it's been rock solid - but even then, it showed up with one of the heatsinks just plain missing one of its two retention screws, so it was handing sideways and an obvious issue as soon as I opened the box. Newegg was the distributor that I bought it from, so I put it down to maybe a Newegg issue, but now I'm not sure - maybe Asus's QC has been in decline since all the way back in 2016.

The "but you don't care" at the end was perfect. Almost daring them to prove you wrong even though they've shown that they don't have any interest in doing that.

@blindguardian8599

Жыл бұрын

They don't care YET.

@moneysworthtv2410

Жыл бұрын

Wonder how long before there parts stop selling as good with Jay and Steve both calling them on the crap it's awesome to see someone like Jay stick up for the average Joe's out here waybto go my dude for sure!!!!!

@alidan

Жыл бұрын

@@moneysworthtv2410 yea, I haven't liked asus for a reason for nearly a decade, everything I have had from them has been kind of shitty, like I expect that kind of crap from the 'I am paying half this price' brands.

@itsZombieMan

Жыл бұрын

As someone new to this, I’m starting to get turned off from getting a pc. All this stuff I’m seeing with the gpu market, and now parts manufacturers are just giving the middle finger…Which is a drag because I never had a pc before but it seems like now isn’t the best time to get into pc gaming.

@ryo-kai8587

Жыл бұрын

@@itsZombieMan It is expensive and there are always issues in the industry, but everything isn't broken. There are tried-and-true parts with very high reviews, and PC part picker website to ensure compatibility. Sure, the GPU market isn't great right now, but it's _slightly_ less bad (aside from Nvidia's 40 series which are insanely priced.) You can build a pretty good PC if you do enough research and get tried-and-true components-maybe even last-gen. That all depends on your budget and goal for your PC.

We need more public figures and "influencers" to act like this. Companies would be scared straight, if this was the publicity they all got, all over the web. Keep it up, and kudos!

@tinto278

Жыл бұрын

man get a job with the PRC and become a Mao puppet. 🤣

@rps215

Жыл бұрын

If someone as big as Steve call them out, you know they are in trouble.

Unfortunately, most of my build is ASUS, including the monitor. I purchased the ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-E from Newegg and paid the extra for a NEW part just to receive a used board that was DoA. Box was beat up, ESD bag scratched/holey/torn; Accessories missing and the cherry on top PASTE IN THE CPU PINHOLES! Many spots that looked like someone stabbed it with a screwdriver including the GPU release. Snapped off buttons on the I/O board. I tried to get a replacement and it boiled down to "You'll just have to buy a different board" because they apparently don't have new ones.

This video has shown me to NEVER buy ASUS products. Thanks for posting it.

This hurts to watch as an ASUS fan boy. But it has to be done. They needed to be held accountable

@thealien_ali3382

Жыл бұрын

Same, the hero x670e is my last Asus board

@dustinfarmer5158

Жыл бұрын

I always used ASUS motherboards and EVGA video cards this has been a bad past year for me. I think I’m going to give EVGA my money for my next builds motherboard though. I won’t be able to buy a video card from them so ill use them for my board. They made an AM4 board so hopefully they make an AM5 but If they don’t make one by the time I’m ready I guess I’ll try intel. I still have no idea what to do for a video card though.

@knottymaker3904

Жыл бұрын

@@dustinfarmer5158 I'm in the same boat. Wanting to upgrade my GPU and I really do not know which brand I can trust now that EVGA saw what madness it would be to continue working with NVidia. Nearly every other brand in reviews I have watch somewhere along the line have a problem that were never on EVGA cards. Am so reluctant to make a choice now.

@Afire85

Жыл бұрын

Just built a new system with an Asus board to replace an aging one that used an Asus board that worked flawlessly. Really regretting sticking with them. They had a board I wanted at the price point I wanted though.

@gozutheDJ

Жыл бұрын

there's literally no reason to be a fanboy. fuck aesthetics, all their high end boards ive seen nothing but problems and their branding aint that cool anyway.

Thanks to you and also Steve and everyone for trying to raise awareness and to protect the consumer, when brands plan to double cross them.

Beautifully said sir, thank you for sticking up for the consumer.

This level of transparency and honesty is the reason why I watch you Jay. I truly appreciate it, thanks.

@XxXVideoVeiwerXxX

Жыл бұрын

ya tech and mech tubers are usually pretty honest its great

@ogChaaka

Жыл бұрын

Plus it puts big pressure on ASUS to do better. I love it.

@tonicardoso380

Жыл бұрын

it will be? it will be? or until asus pays him

@0Blueaura

Жыл бұрын

@@tonicardoso380 tbh i dont know how they could buy him out at this point, or any other influencer... they cant hide from the fact they been doing shit job. not paying engineers enough and give them enough attentio. asus got what they deserved

Cutting any sponsor that significantly contributes to your brand/channel is a HUGE leap forward! It is a very tough decision, but it also sends the message to your viewers that you care more about the average consumer than money. It's a breath of fresh air that there are still people out there that care about more than just themselves.

@gcwessell

Жыл бұрын

I bet some things change real fast... they just got called out by two of the most important public sector speakers with a voice...

@matbroomfield

Жыл бұрын

If they are 5 months into the year without a new contract, they're clearly not contrinubuting monetarily. I wonder if Jayz had a deal in place if he would still have cut them off?

@Quatrawinner

Жыл бұрын

@@matbroomfield He probably still would have. The fact they aren't paying him just makes it so much easier. Besides, if it's taking 5+ months to hammer out a contract, they were most likely going to slowly move away from him anyway.

Thank you for putting this out. I had no idea this was going on...rl stuff has lead me away from builds lately. Historically, I've loved ASUS and was even sponsored by them as a pro gamer and later as a sponsor of a major gaming event. It's sad to see they've lost their way like so many companies of late due to focusing on things that don't matter like social issues instead of their products. Perhaps you could make a video ranking manufacturers on their products and warranties so that we can get an idea of who we can trust as consumers. During covid when product wasn't available except through OEMs, I ended getting an Alienware R9 with a 2080TI that sounds like a jet plane taking off in my room, on and off every 4 seconds, that I have difficulty hearing games while wearing noise cancelling headphones! You'd laugh if you had it in your studio today and tested it. You simply wouldn't believe a company would ship a product out like this.

I have one of these motherboards, with a 7 800 X3D, system seems fine but should I update the bios?

well this probably explains the bs thats been going on with my pc the past few months...

@Akkbar21

Жыл бұрын

Huh?

@victorxify1

Жыл бұрын

I had a 3700x system with a strix x470 board that had a bunch of random issues like the ones in jays video, switched back to intel cause I thought it was an AMD problem but now I’m starting to second guess.

@Jacob_Overby

Жыл бұрын

Fr, asus seriously shat the bed

@CantTreadOnMe

Жыл бұрын

Just go Msi and intel. 0 issues. I highly recommend Msi Tomahawk mobo. I got it with i7 12700k and it's perfection since the very first boot. Haven't had a single crash or connection issue or any issues with overclocking etc and I built my system 5 months ago and use it every day.

@psaunier10

Жыл бұрын

Updated BIOS last month (5800x/ Strix x570) and it would not even load windows, it would hard crash. Rolled back the BIOS to find out that windows was corrupted so bad I had to wipe and re-install. Time to change mobos…

It makes me very happy when all creators pile on when these companies act this way. Thanks Jay.

@mikopolar1070

Жыл бұрын

Not linus... He wont...

I did a build and when it got a orange dram issue, think my fault due to expo, anyway I striped it down and theres a bent pin!! but I messed up and touched it and bent 2/3 more. Basically the board bricked and wouldnt reset on cmos, battery out (even tired a new battery) There support said speak to the place you brought it but will they accept a board with bent pins. Its was my mistake not checking it (did I do it now when I was careful and know what Im doing)! great video!

You did Steve dirty on the choice of pic haha

That was such a hard line.. “climb down the ladder now so the landing isn’t as hard” that caught me off guard from Jay. I’m glad to see the people that get free items/get paid by X company are standing up to complacency. I wish more people were like this. Thank you Jay, Nick, Phil, etc, for placing yourselves in the limelight to ensure the pc community isn’t taken advantage of anymore. Couldn’t be more proud.

@racerex340

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm curious how LMG is going to handle all of this, I'm sure their forums are all over it, but I fear that they have too much to lose to do what Jay or either Steve are doing. I'm willing to bet that they make a few comments, but I don't think they could walk away from ASUS completely for all reviews and sponsorships, which sucks given the reach they have with their audience.

@pedro4205

Жыл бұрын

@@racerex340 Also, ASUS/ROG is the main sponsor for LTX this year, i can imagine that they would pay a lot of money if they cease the contract now, besides the huge lost in money for the event, that are about to happen.

@pedro4205

Жыл бұрын

@@racerex340 And it with the Lab consuming hundreds of thousands of dollars and growing number of employees. This is really a PR and financial nightmare for them

@kahrhoshe

Жыл бұрын

@@racerex340 pretty sure lmg wont be this hardline, but if they are kudos to them and linus.

@MaddJakd

Жыл бұрын

That's why you chop off the shills and only watch the core gang lol. Seriously read these comments and have to wonder who yall be watching. 😂

If all influencers were as honest as you Jay, the world would be a MUCH better place. Thanks for keeping it real.

@marioluigi9599

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. The worst one is mkbhd. He's so fake and he'd NEVER fire any sponsor. He LOVES the money. Yeah he gives critical reviews, but never real like this As for AS ROCK... isn't that the same company as Asus? Or at least Asus made it?

@akmalrusydi2730

Жыл бұрын

@@marioluigi9599 a quickk search revealed that Asus is the parent company to AsRock, but AsRock is a spun off of Pegatron ( which is also a spun off of Asus), which means AsRock manufacturing and management are basically their own, in different Terms this is like the chinese BBK electronics company that own multiple brand like Oppo, vivo and OnePLus but they are their own companies, only tied to the names of the brand contract so they are basically separate entities so that's explain why AsRock isn't as dogshit as Asus in motherboard

@TechGamer45

Жыл бұрын

@@marioluigi9599 from Wiki - ASRock was originally spun off from Asus in 2002 ... It was acquired by Pegatron in 2010.

@marioluigi9599

Жыл бұрын

@@akmalrusydi2730 Well in that case I guess the only question is, is Pegatron fully independent of Asus now and a competitor to it? Or does Asus still have influence over it?

@akmalrusydi2730

Жыл бұрын

@@marioluigi9599 i have no idea honestly, may need some research to fully know whether or not Asus has influence over Pegatron. But in my opinions i think they aren't under the influence of Asus anymore, their products work great, reliable, priced just about right , their gpu is good for the price and performance, motherboard selections are great, so far i use their A320m model and hasn't failed me since 2020.

I always liked the idea of one branded builds, more compatibility, One software controls all & flexing purposes. and MSI was my go to Brand . During the usage of my "MSI" build (which I did in 2016), I saw how elegant / high end Asus "ROG" line was; and wanted to switch over to a FULL Asus ROG build whenever I need an upgrade. Anyways, it's 2023, time for a whole new build! I went through Parts picking, which I consistently picked everything ASUS "ROG" despite the price difference compared to its counterparts (It is obviously more expensive). I showed the build suggestion to my friends for feedback (before ordering) and they told me: "Your build is great, But just watch this video". I follow this channel for years now and I recognized Jay chill attitude regarding everything. unlike other hyper critical content creators for over small stuff. BUT MAN THIS MESSAGE WAS SERIOUS!! I knew this is a serious deal. Without any hesitation, I went back to all "MSI" build again. "MSI" , I guess we're gonna spend more time together :=)

@Cody_Ramer

6 ай бұрын

I went with an MSI motherboard in my new build as I have had no issues with them and after watching this video boy am I glad I did!

Thanks Jay for informing everyone about this. I was thinking of upgrading my motherboard anyways, mine is a Prime B350 motherboard, its old, its ancient by todays standards, but it came as a bundle along with a CPU & CPU cooler by AMD. I haven't upgraded any parts except for the original CPU & GPU. I was thinking of upgrading my motherboard, CPU, GPU, maybe even getting a M.2 stick as a boot drive, migrating everything else to SSD's, but haven't got the time to do so. Eventually i will do it. Can't wait to upgrade my rig. :)

@Anreii

6 ай бұрын

That reminds me. Even a few years ago when building my pc I was considering a prime b550. But checking out the reception it seemed to interestingly be one of the absolute worst motherboards out there even though the others like the tuf gaming (the one I got) seemed fine. Sad how a really good line of something can turn to shit. Same thing happened with my current phone lol

So glad someone can keep these brands accountable. Keep up the great work guys.

I guarantee it was greed from "cost cutting" which likely came from getting rid of staff, procedures, cheaper components and outsourcing as much as possible! Love the video! Hold more shady brands accountable!

@williamfries960

Жыл бұрын

"Name and shame is the deal of the game."

@user-gz4ve8mw9l

Жыл бұрын

Capitalism at its finest alas.

@halycon404

Жыл бұрын

Sales became in charge of engineers. More than likely. Look at Boeing. The grumbling coming out of there is everything changed when a new CEO took over a decade-ish ago and moved the headquarters to Chicago and left engineering in Seattle. They started firing senior engineers for cost cutting and stopped listening to others on issues. I use Boeing as an example as that's literally planes falling out of the sky level of bad management not listening to the engineers, which is as bad as it gets. But this plays out all the time. I know it's happening anecdotally with ASUS because just a month ago Steve had a rant on board features and talked about engineers at the company saying they needed to get sales to see these things as important if they wanted to include them on products. Which means engineers do not have final say on how good or bad a product that leaves the door is.

@mcduvall2000

Жыл бұрын

@halycon404 Well said! Exactly how it is... unfortunately my work is doing something similar, outsourcing our engineering and design to india... Can you guess how well that's going?? Lol

@SixOThree

Жыл бұрын

But these motherboards are priced at a "concierge" level of pricing.

Now ASUS apparently refuses to sell product. Many people have had problems purchasing ASUS products over the last 2 years. ASUS just repeatedly cancels orders without explanation. Some people even go as far as calling the CEO office to clear their purchase. I tried this myself and had ASUS cancel 4 orders, using 4 credit cards from both Amazon AND their own website. Something is very wrong at ASUS.

If you buy with a credit card. Your protected. Section 75 is your secret financial superhero - buy something costing more than £100 and less than £30,000 on your credit card, and your card company has a LEGAL responsibility to come to the rescue if there's a problem.

I've used a total of two ASUS motherboards in the last 8 years. The first one I bought back in 2015... Its still in use to this day in my gf's rig. Zero issues for 8 years. Seeing ASUS's decline is truly sad.

@ghomerhust

Жыл бұрын

my first asus board is also still running..... from 1999. P3V4X, slot-1 pentium! ive built easily over 500 systems with asus boards over the years (i do it for a living), with minimal issues. but the way theyre treating people via support lately, ive been looking at other brands for my customers. very sad.

@jeandutoit1413

Жыл бұрын

@@ghomerhust If you ask me, it started when ASUS and Pegatron split up. ASUS never again had the rock solid, premium quality and multi generation support they used to have throughout the 1990's and very early 2000's.

@2dfx

Жыл бұрын

@@ghomerhust P3Via...oh boy

@oaklandblocks

Жыл бұрын

Same, I've been using Asus since the inception of RoG boards. Legacy i7 processors to my latest 10th gen i9. Had no issues or problems with their RMA process.

@degeneratepervert6255

Жыл бұрын

Rocking an ASUS RAMPAGE III GENE mATX x58 board from 2010 in my windows XP machine. Works great!

I loved ASUS when I first started getting into computers. They were a brand I could rely on but no longer. Thank you for putting it out there.

@41056

Жыл бұрын

I agree, my new built, i went with another manufacturer for the same reason as Jay just pointed. Deuces ASUS, its been real

@Floccinaucinihilipilificator

Жыл бұрын

It's regrettable that it's gotten to this. 10 years ago, Asus was one of the brands I found most reliable.

@patronautsvirtualworld8155

Жыл бұрын

In the past 13 years I've been trying to stay away from ASUS and 2 time when I've decided to give them a chance, I was disappointed. Wanted to buy a laptop - it could boot only once, RMA and got a same model as a replacement, same issue. Turns out all the batch in the shop was broken. Bought a monitor - dead pixels, after RMA, HDR did not work. They used to be good before 2010.

@sotesz

11 ай бұрын

Was kind of the same for me too. I remember back in the day the local tech magazine calling their motherboards "german quality" and such. So they aren't the go to any more. But what else is in their stead then? MSI had some bad rep as well from GN; ASRock I always thought was a the cheapest and dodgiest brand; and I never liked Gigabyte, tried to avoid them by default before. Have I been Very wrong with these stances I just mentioned? Or is there some other "savior" brand left, that one could buy relatively confidently a motherboard from?

@AdariousMistdancer

11 ай бұрын

@@41056 My last build used an MSI motherboard, something that in the past I would never have done, but they sure have stepped up their game.

I had a Maximus IV Extreme-Z and using a Maximus XI Hero Wifi motherboard since 2018. So far so good. I upgrade every 5+ years.

with the summer period I missed a lot of video and info. Your video made me realize all the problems I was having with my asus motherboards especially with the ddr... I know that your video is 3 months old and that you'll probably never see my comment, but I wanted to thank you for opening my eyes to these problems that I hadn't seen despite my 30 years of experience. bye bye Asus and once again thank you so much for this video

Glad to see that you're willing to lose a sponsor to support your viewers. This is why I trust this channel this community.

@LoneWolf0648

Жыл бұрын

he technically lost them last year since they cant even try to get a contract together but every other brand did it by january. i personally never liked the ROG branding because it comes off as arrogant, even back when i built my 6700k rig

This is the reason why I stay subbed to Jay and Steve and other tech channels that call brands out on their bullshit. It's not acceptable to be so at the top and forget that you need to do right by your consumers. Glad your willing to tell em how it is and let em know that you're no longer doing business with them.

@HappyDude1

Жыл бұрын

Almost Everybody would do it Its in our nature. Once you you have a lot of money and you made your name you just want more Its never enough

@deivytrajan

Жыл бұрын

I think Jay is overrated. He barely does any testing by himself, mostly rambles and speculates and now just copies Gamer Nexus findings. I would even say Linus Tech Tips is better than JayZTwoCents in terms of content and information

@andreasiven21

Жыл бұрын

@@HappyDude1 no its not. Its what u get teached everyday and u can change it and start with yourself...

@cubic-c

Жыл бұрын

I wish Linus would be more proactive in that regard

@Gamber63

Жыл бұрын

​@@deivytrajan yeah right, telling me with lots of scientific terms n' charts, I'm lazy to read all of that, which is a reason I sub Jay

I had oneAsus motherboard back in 2007 in a custom gaming pc. Had to RMA it. The second mobo was DOA - RMA. Third at the time - worked when it wanted to. The third finally stabilized after being kept in a storage unit for 9 years I've been running an Asrock mobo with an AMD FX 9590 for years with no issues.

@2_Bike_is_Life

7 ай бұрын

Interesting. Do you think a hardware experience from over 15 years ago is relevant? Or do you just like to "pile-on"?

I got the asus Maximus extreme z790 and had to rma the first board because it was dead on arrival! They handled the rma pretty well and haven’t had much issues except my i9 13900k is throttling at stock speeds on Aida 64!

Your loyalty towards the consumer, is the reason I keep watching your videos! Never change man.

@TheRightToFilmPolice

11 ай бұрын

But he did the "we so sorry" Asian accent. So whatever would be done to a.truno supporter should be done to him. Also he touched that mother oard like it was a sloppy gross cheeseburger from McDonald's.

@sybslays2740

11 ай бұрын

@@TheRightToFilmPolice???? the fuck keep politics out of a pc video bro.

@MM.MischiefManaged

11 ай бұрын

@@TheRightToFilmPolice because it is

@CarePackage-ut3tt

11 ай бұрын

@@TheRightToFilmPolice huh

ASUS recently tried to claim my board was customer induced damage because "the pins were bent." One of the pins was twice as long as it was supposed to be. They are definitely looking for any excuse to not honor warranties. "But you don't care" hits hard mans. Right in the feels.

@saramae9878

Жыл бұрын

No, it wasn't. The manufacturing process would not allow a "long pin" to be placed. Even if you snuck in and did it yourself, the board would fail during production testing.

@starrdrop1074

Жыл бұрын

ASUS has done this for years, unfortunately. I'm honestly surprised it took this long for outcry. If the pin in question was a motherboard header it sounds like the pin was pulled out of place. Usually a combination of poor solder quality and being too rough with the connector.

@frjhracing

Жыл бұрын

@@saramae9878 found one of the corrupt ASUS employee's

@johnknightiii1351

Жыл бұрын

​@@saramae9878 are you suggesting the consumer magically placed stay longer? Pin in there? What tool do you think would be able to do that without damaging everything else?

@Gindi4711

Жыл бұрын

​@@saramae9878 Only because a company has a policy for testing all products this does not mean that: a) All products are actually tested. In many cases if the testing equipment is out of order products are shipped without testing b) The testing method catches all kinds of defects c) After detecting a defect the product does not still make it on the "good products" stack

Asus, the perfect way to destroy your brand. I will never touch any of their products again. The management of the company should be replaced without hesitation. This is honest content which is sadly lacking on the internet.

my sister recently got a tuf b550 plus with wifi and its been having alot of issues since it got built wifi and blue tooth sometimes doesn't even show up.

I never would have thought in a million years that ASRock would turn things around, but I'm glad they did, because they couldn't have picked a better moment to shine than right now.

@IcecalGamer

Жыл бұрын

(👍'ヮ')👍I'm still using an ASRock Z77-PRO3 with an i5nonK oc-ed to 4-4.1 through bclk ALL core.

@antonhei2443

Жыл бұрын

So true! ASRock for decades have been very creative in their products. (Boards with PCI-E 16x and AGP for example). 👽💾

@pizzaface817

Жыл бұрын

@@antonhei2443and idk if this is a asrock thing or all mobos but a 100 DOLLAR MOBO allowed me to boost tdp on an i5 non overclock able to 125 watts so I could run max at all times(I have a noctua cooler which is very excessive)

@Slavolko

Жыл бұрын

Asrock has been solid for years. I stuck with them for Z97 and AM4, and the boards were decent enough with good warranty support.

@wittlemidget

Жыл бұрын

Just don't give them a bad review on youtube or you'll get blacklisted.

If only EVGA made boards and such for the budget/standard consumer market.

@GAMMAXII

Жыл бұрын

EVGA's non dark boards suck

@Haskellerz

Жыл бұрын

EVGA boards are the same price as highend ASUS board that kill your CPU

@georgejones5019

Жыл бұрын

For real.

@TheOriginalFaxon

Жыл бұрын

They did in the 2000s, my first build I picked the parts for myself had an EVGA NForce 4 SLI board (socket 939), with an AMD 4000+ single core CPU. I got it for $169 or something I forget exactly (my newegg history might go back that far but i'm not checking lol), was absolutely friggin rock solid no issues what so ever.

@Perkeletricksterservantofrher

Жыл бұрын

EVGA PSU suck.

im upgrading from 5800x3d for my 4090 build, so should i go Z790 + 13/14 I9 K/KS or X670e + 7/8 950x3d?

Thanks for the honesty Jay. It makes me sad- I have a 2022 G14 and a ROG Strix motherboard in my desktop build. Both have been super solid, but all of this anti-consumer behavior will definitely have me looking very carefully when I decide to upgrade in a few years. Thank goodness independent media is here to keep these large corporations in check. Thank you Jay!

@dwgould2001

Жыл бұрын

The sad thing about this, many years ago I had two775 chaintech mobo's (same type) fail one after another. First one the shop i bought it at, replaced it no questions. Two weeks later the other board went, took it back, where the shop offered a full refund or replacement board, they recommended Asus. I went with the Asus board, I was so impressed that it was still running ten years later, last time i turned it on. All my boards, (apart from an Asrock gaming PC ) have been Asus, wouldn't hesitate in recommending Asus.. After watching GN and Mr 2Cent Can't say I'm inclined to do that anymore! Oh how the mighty have fallen, Asus aint my hero anymore., Which really sucks- Asus. Do better.

@tannhauser5399

Жыл бұрын

@John Kurokawa - I've never had any issues with ROG, and I've been using those components for the past 7+ years (motherboards, phones), as I usually build my PC from scratch every couple of years (one of those for gaming, but also with 100+ GB or RAM for use with Vmware Workstation, or Hyper-V). It is kind of difficult to believe that in the global scale - they would screw it all up. Not that I don't believe as such, but they always had a good components in their products (ROG ones - not sure about other ones, such "usual classic" Asus, ,without the ROG label).

@PaulRohrbaugh

Жыл бұрын

I've used an Asus board in my last two builds and had no issues, glad I didn't go with AM5, mine is AM4.

@Secret_Takodachi

Жыл бұрын

My 2021 G15 has been fantastic, but yeah... after this story, I'm certainly not going back to Asus. Even once they "fix" this, the company has burned a lot of bridges lately. That's going to leave a lasting impact.

@FLINTZ

Жыл бұрын

I was going to upgrade this coming gen with an ASUS mobo, but not now. F&^% them and their anti-consumer BS. I'll hit up Aorus mobos now.

Just recently got my "new" Asus ROG Zenith II Alpha, and it came in an opened box, a thin peice of antistatic film bag on the back that would have had a component in it, and the wrong user manual. I haven't been able to test it as I am still waiting for my AIO. But for over 2k the damned thing better work.

Wow have been looking to upgrade my gaming laptop and was looking at ASUS amount others. Glad I found this video as well as some others articles about these issues. So much for them getting my business

As an owner of a x670e hero, I thank you giving us customer’s a voice.

As someone who loves everything from ASUS TUF series , they break my heart with their behavior. Hats off to Jay for doing this!

@shagohodred2464

Жыл бұрын

This is why you shouldn't "love" companies. They're all out to screw you out of your last dollar, under any circumstances

@michaelgathemia

Жыл бұрын

What's wrong with the TUF series?

@PaulRohrbaugh

Жыл бұрын

I built an AM4 system last year with TUF board and had no issues. I think AM5 is the real problem.

@Finsternis..

Жыл бұрын

​@@shagohodred2464 You can like a brand and a brands design without approving the behavior of the company behind the brand. I like the ROG design. The old ones at least. The one before they put dumb slogans all over things. Considering the pile of sheit the Armoury Crate is and now this, I will think twice of going Asus again. But we also need to consider: there isn't alot of companies around anymore that didn't have a major fuck up at some time and still have adequate designs. And yes: nowadays it matters. If my fucking PC has a fucking piece of glass on the side because it is virtually impossible to get anything else then it might as well look at least decent.

@konverzny

Жыл бұрын

I had nothing but great experience using Asus products and I recently bought their motherboard too. Feels bad man.

Thanks for this video. I nearly bought an ASUS board but am now going to go for the msi mpg b650 carbon I think

I want to know what motherboards would you proudly endorse? My wife’s is having trouble and asus was my go to but after seeing all this it’s gonna change

I don't trust any companies anymore...

@freedom_fighter98

Жыл бұрын

anymore?

@voodooyam

Жыл бұрын

Trust nobody, dont be no fool!

@Pond721

Жыл бұрын

@@freedom_fighter98 I trusted EVGA with GPUs.

@AlphaMachina

Жыл бұрын

The custom PC market is going to shit, just like the rest of the world. Might as well get used to it.

@adriandotexe

Жыл бұрын

​@@Pond721 What did EVGA do wrong? Leave an abusive relationship? Is that a bad thing?

Thank you Jay for supporting us pc enthusiasts and gamers. 👍

@johnnyboogalo4897

Жыл бұрын

He is a grifter

@rezorus8832

Жыл бұрын

​@NoSoyAllowed So people with platforms and direct connections to brands should what? Be quiet and take the money? Be yes men to the brands?

@rezorus8832

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnnyboogalo4897 Dude you were thanking him for his video six months ago. How does him dropping a sponsor make him a grifter?

@vk-br1dr

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyboogalo4897 you dont even know what a grifter is lol.

@scuffed_derivative

Жыл бұрын

@@johnnyboogalo4897citation needed

Watching this video with Freebird playing in the background hit different.

Good thing I ran across this. I was about to put $2,000 down on a ASUS laptop from BestBuy. Went back and did some reading/rating by many of the customers who have purchased that model and so many of them are having several problems with it. Quality control is just garbage at ASUS. Thanks for saving me headache.

Glad Australia has strong RMA policies. You don't mess with the producer, you just go to the store and grab a new part and get cleared at the register in 5 mins. I bought a wireless thermometer that broke and the company wanted me to ship to America for RMA, with no guarantee it would be replaced. Just went back to the store and got a new one in seconds

@ClementYang24

Жыл бұрын

Consumer protection? What the hell is that? We don't know what that is we're bootlicking Americans. It's almost as alien a concept as workers rights

@brodriguez11000

Жыл бұрын

I think that's the real secret, plus sending things into the country can take awhile. The middle-man has a stronger voice and a bigger stake with that system.

@isaackvasager9957

Жыл бұрын

@@brodriguez11000 But it seems a little unfair for the middle man to be responsible for the manufactures crappy product, no? It's impossible for a retail store to be fully informed about all their thousands of products...they are after all...just the middle man. I would argue a law like that just further proves that the rich (the manufactures) are always protected.

Massive respect for you dropping Asus and Steve for the investigation work. You guys are fantastic

@jhowle9475

Жыл бұрын

You may consider a rewording or some new punctuation. Sounds like you are saying for “dropping Steve and Asus”

@larrythehedgehog

Жыл бұрын

@@jhowle9475 ARC GANG! what card do you have?

@blairlutz4454

Жыл бұрын

More like Anus

@jhowle9475

Жыл бұрын

@@larrythehedgehog the predator bi frost

@JobeStroud

Жыл бұрын

You really need to change that. It is just worded very poorly..

Agreed. I purchased a brand new 4070 Super and was thrilled to install and use it, only to discover that it wasn't compatible with my motherboard-only mine. This issue was widely discussed across forums. When I reached out to Nvidia directly for support, they seemed unaware of the problem and consequently couldn't offer any assistance. Needless to say, I ended up purchasing a new motherboard from a different manufacturer, as I won't be investing in any more ASUS products in the future. Even if their products are excellent at the time, it's unacceptable not to provide support for your own products or update them when issues like this persist for months. Adding insult to injury, the GPU itself is from ASUS.

Thanks for the heads up. I am in the market now for a new video editing computer. The two top contenders were Asus pro art or an Asus ROG with an AMD Ryzen i9. The bad reviews on the BIOS issues I thought were limited to the pro art line. Thank you for saving me from throwing my money away. Subscribed.

@dontknow3886

6 ай бұрын

I think u mesn ryzen 9?🤓

You have more respect from me then anyone else when you stand up for the customer/little guy with very little cash, and big companies who take our money and screw us at the same time. All my respect.

@PSYCHOV3N0M

Жыл бұрын

Than. NOT then.

I purchased an Asus motherboard on amazon and saw this video just before they shipped and last minute was able to cancel and move over to MSI. thank you for coming out with this informative video when you did. you may have saved me from a world of hurt.

@tecworld2401

Жыл бұрын

I purchased two brand NEW TUF Gaming X670e Plus WIFI Boards and both were DOA no post no power no QLED JUST DEAD. I was on the phone with ASUS support and they could not fix it THEY said RMA them, and i have to pay for shipping to them. or they will give my two used boards to replace them don't buy these boards.

@sd2go

Жыл бұрын

@@tecworld2401 Same with a RMA Z690 board. lights up no post

@nicholasgeorge7192

Жыл бұрын

MSI is the motherboard I always recommend. Super easy to overclock with. Bios are nice and user friendly. Ive built 6 computers with MSI and have never had an issue

@bamboofort

Жыл бұрын

@@nicholasgeorge7192 thx for sharing. I've never built a pc or even had a pc. I actually didn't even know the meaning of cpu two months ago but def spending a ton of time learning these past few months. through all of the research and advise, its hard to know if I'm making the right purchase choices. MSI may not be flashy mobo's but they seem to keep coming up as a reliable and trustworthy company. I think I made a good decision too. Just in case you have other advice, I have chosen intel 13400f cpu, corsair vengeance pro sl 16GB ram, nvidia 3060 ti GPU, samsung 980 ssd 1tb storage, and evga super nova 650 gs PSU. I havent bought the PSU or the storage just yet so any rec would be appreciated. cheers

@Soppeldunk

Жыл бұрын

MSI really needs to get their security together, they've been hacked recently and anyone with MSI components (apart from psu) may have been affected by it. I wouldn't trust them until they start taking their security seriously.

This is eye opening, too bad I found this after I put together my very first AMD build. Good thing I went with the MSI board.. I have a ROG laptop that's been pretty solid, it's sad to see that ASUS has gone downhill in their customer support. Just came across your content recently and appreciate it. Cheers!

i have a older gen asus tufgaming x570 right now with 5800x and it has been just as smooth as all my old intel setups but i’ll be sure to watch out for asus next time a do a build but that’s gonna be a few years

They truly go out of their way to be sure that they don't repair anything unless you're willing to pay them money to do it. I've had this experience with them twice. It doesn't matter if it's under warranty or not. I had a chip in one of my fan blades on a gpu that was under warranty, and it stopped functioning. I sent it in via rma and was emailed saying that it was damaged due to the chip in a fan blade and that they would repair it for 400.00. I've also had weird issues with my Rog x570E board as well. It just sometimes doesn't want to post. Then, 30 minutes goes by, and I try again, and it functions fine. I've been a hard-core asus guy for years but it's time to move on to something different whenever I do decide to upgrade my pc's. I haven't had any issues as of yet with their Tuf line of components. The Rog 3090 has been great. The Tuf 4070ti has been great. My son is running my strix 2080ti, and its been great as well.

Good on you for sticking with your principals and having our backs Jay! Big thank you to you and your team.

@carlchristenisnes6763

Жыл бұрын

Which principals ... please elaborate... still using nvida products with that stupid new powerconnector. I am no way pro asus... but as soon as you morons find something to pick on - everything is fair game.. stupid. At least gamer nexus did a lot of work on this...

Jay just taught me a life lesson. Judge by not the problems they have, but how they solve them. Thank you :)

@futuza

Жыл бұрын

Great dating advice too lol