I hope that EU will force Microsoft to enable this option normally. Not everyone has Internet everywhere, every time.

@Gazer75

Жыл бұрын

Kind of surprised they haven't made this illegal already.

@25566

Жыл бұрын

Even an android phone doesn't require an internet connection to install

@sidewind131258

Жыл бұрын

We are 27 nations, not states in one nation, but seperate nations, how the h*ll do you think that will happen ? 🤣🤣

@meatballgaming935

Жыл бұрын

@@sidewind131258 the eu is forcing apple to use usb-c for all phones sold in the eu so

@ObliteAbyss

Жыл бұрын

@@sidewind131258 The same way anything the EU does happens? The same way the apple USB-C charging port is going to happen? (in other words - By working together, like the EU has done for DECADES.)

The fact that half the tiles on windows start menu and on Xbox Home Screen are ads should have been a pretty good indicator that they’re in the ad business

@pcgamerdad4251

Жыл бұрын

yeah its really annoying you can disable it in the settings I forgot where I did it but I did disable the ads on the start menu.

@tboneforreal

Жыл бұрын

When they announced that the upgrade to Windows 10 would be free was the early indicator that they were in the ad business.

@gonemad8008

Жыл бұрын

It sucks but it's whe way of the world now.

@samuelrodriguez6684

Жыл бұрын

everytime I see the W11 start menu, I'm glad I'm still in W10. Looks better imo

@billyhatcher643

Жыл бұрын

im never upgrading to winblows 11 im going directly to linux maybe within the next year

With the 22H2 update, this workaround was broken. If you kill the Network Flow it will just tell you the internet crashed and restart it and circles back to the same position. INSTEAD, from the command prompt, type *OOBE\BYPASSNRO* and hit Enter. It will appear to start the entire startup process over. But, this time when you Shift+F10, it will go directly into Local Account setup.

@chrisr1679

Жыл бұрын

Yo u are awesome ty for this!

@beginerracing5272

Жыл бұрын

Still works as of 12/6/22. Thank you, community! Shame on you, Microsoft.

@chrisr1679

Жыл бұрын

@Linden Reaper ive tried using linux and i had it for a year or so. It just wasnt for me, not very user friendly. Sorry but windows is just much easier.

@ThaFuzzwood

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmounteney2034 Well problem with that is that windows is mainstream and not limited to nerds.

@jimmythepowerful

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelmounteney2034 Linux is 💩💩💩🤮🤮🤮

Great job! I am sick of this surveillance nightmare we live in. Subbed!!

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

then why keep using windows instead of linux?🤣

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 Linux is good enough for most things now and if everyone went Linux that would only force Microsoft to accept, they are royal fuckup and to fix windows to get us all back even though at that point they would be royally fucked cause if people switch, they won't just switch back because that is such a pain in the ass

@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307

Жыл бұрын

Or buy the same computer locally and cheaper!

@punter1

Жыл бұрын

yeah it hit a nerve do u think re setting to factory settings would eliminate the issue, after knowing what I know now...anyone??

@raven4k998

Жыл бұрын

@@punter1 fuck factory settings install Linux for the win🤣

Being a former computer tech I always raised concerns when windows 8, 8.1 & 10 made it difficult to use without a MSA. It's sad to say but I just don't think they're going to listen without a legal organization drawing a line in the sand and yanking MS's head out of that same sand to see the line drawn.

@captaingreenhat

Жыл бұрын

if you've ever seen the TV chuck that was the final season plot. Basically dude had a cia/nsa mk ultra program installed to his brain that made him instantly good at everything. then the final season a "bill gates" type person made a "2.0" version of the system but gave out a free os to everyone in the world in order to collect all the data everywhere so he could "take over the world"

@thomasjones6232

Жыл бұрын

The only way to make 'em honest is using an honest OS.....Linux for example. Don't install spyware (Windows) and you wont have spyware on your system (Windows.)

@93gamrx

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasjones6232 I just turn all their shit off or remove it altogether, sorry but I hate Linux.

@rohitk8797

Жыл бұрын

EU and USA are more worried about forcing USB C on iPhones.

@93gamrx

Жыл бұрын

@@rohitk8797 i'm okay with that. Honestly to me that is just as bad as a forced registered user account for any personal pc. Just wish they would target all predatory behavior by tech businesses.

Glad that some big YT channels actually bring it up. I think there should be more videos like this. Honestly, it gets ridiculous because now you can't even use an alarm clock app without creating an account! And poping up messeges on a full screen telling you that they ARE collecting cookies isn't any better than just collecting them without you knowing.

@Dennzer1

Жыл бұрын

Free Alarm Clock 4.0.1 doesn't need any weird crap in order to DL and then use. And I have used shutupwindows and winaerotweaker and ev3rything so there is no way that even if that program wants data, it aint getting any. But in its native state, I dont see that it has any mechanism for collecting data anyways, but I could be wrong...

@josefish5193

Жыл бұрын

Dennzer1 Just switch to Linux mint already

@Dennzer1

Жыл бұрын

@@josefish5193 Yeah, probably.

@PulsarTECH

Жыл бұрын

@@josefish5193 I agree Mint is awesome

On update 22H2 as at today... instructions are slightly different. After ending the task as at 7:25...go back into command prompt and enter the command: OOBE\BYPASSNRO The system will reboot and this time you will get the option to continue without internet connection

@snowdjagha

Жыл бұрын

Did this and it worked. Thank you!

@datoni4150

Жыл бұрын

Yep. Worked. This comment should be pinned.

@anxious5195

Жыл бұрын

W mans

@iplyrunescape305

Жыл бұрын

All this shit.. just do Linux..

Those scenarios mentioned at about 4:30 actually happen a LOT in outback regions of Australia, where the only access to internet is via sattelite or low bandwidth adsl connection (where the exchange can be 30km away ... or more)

@MercedesMan

11 ай бұрын

That UK prison internet. Literally

If you do the setup with ethernet plugged in until the "Let's add your Microsoft account", unplug ethernet, and hit the back arrow on the add account screen, it then prompts you to create a local account.

@AT4makeTANKgoBOOM

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip, that worked for me! 🙀🙀🙀

@alexmalinowski5477

Жыл бұрын

Great trick, saves me from Microsoft’s nonsense :)

@mikep9418

Жыл бұрын

That's how I did it on the last few builds I installed Windows 11 on. I'm still on Windows 10 for my personal PC's.

@adrianbrown947

Жыл бұрын

I was about to comment about this method. I used to work in the RMA department at an SI and have been using this trick since Win10.

@c.m.7037

Жыл бұрын

The problem is, if you want to use MS Office it makes you sign in because it's subscription based, which in turn signs in Windows 11...

Remember those times where you installed your Windows and then simply needed to tune it at your own taste instead of having to turn off and walk like on a minefield to avoid all the crap Microsoft wants for you?

@justinpatterson5291

Жыл бұрын

Pepperidge farms remembers.

@SamTheEnglishTeacher

Жыл бұрын

30 year anniversary of the song "Remember the Time" by Michael Jackson (pbuh) - also around the same time ago that software designers started using dark patterns. Synchronicity?

@Roxor128

Жыл бұрын

That was Windows 7 for me. Closest I get to Windows now is a VM for using an old scanner, or for wasting scammers' time in safety.

@rkadi6540

Жыл бұрын

I love win 7 more than the successor, time passed so fast

@brmh1667

9 күн бұрын

Vaguely....

Great video, and disturbing-but-reassuring to know I'm not imagining the number of times my suggestions have mysteriously adjusted to fit a verbal conversation I had away from my computer. What a marvellous dystopia we've built for ourselves...

@dive2drive314

Жыл бұрын

Yup. Most of us have all consented to in some form, even if we didn't realize we were. I refuse to own a smartphone and my friends can't understand why. But.. they also mention how creepy it is that they get ads about something they simply mentioned to their girlfriend or wife when the phone was near by. I guess people like to talk about it, but they just don't care.

@punter1

Жыл бұрын

ikr do u know if a reset to factory settings and then starting again would work????

@sophiatrocentraisin

Жыл бұрын

@@dive2drive314 Friendly reminder that any "consent" short of explicit opt-in consent is not consent. Well, at least on a moral standpoint and for any matter concerning the GDPR. On another note, custom roms for smartphones are very useful for this very purpose (LineageOS is a good starting point), even if it requires some tweaking to make sure it works entirely

@holdencolfield6676

Жыл бұрын

it's ironic how they twisted the concept "free" to become the catalyst for our imprisonment. might as well redefine "freedom" to mean online advertising.

@JackieLombardi

Жыл бұрын

We didn't build it for ourselves, the 1% built it for the 99%

If you hold shift and press F10 at the spot where you select your Wi-Fi, it will bring up the command prompt, type OOBE\BYPASSNRO when you click enter the computer will restart, when you get back to the same place it should have a "I don't have internet" Option beside the NEXT Button.😉 This should work for everyone at the moment unless they patch it. Though assuming they'll let you type the \ key because I had that problem, but I figured a way around that and can't remember how🤔 hopefully not a problem for y'all. P.S I'm the unfortunate soul that don't have internet at the house so I had to get creative

@LoredMarilius

Жыл бұрын

Heck yeah man! In just used this. Worked like a charm. Thank you!

@yixuanche6443

Жыл бұрын

OMG Thank you SOOOO much!!!

@TheGohthecrow

Жыл бұрын

Jayztwocents needs to pin this or make a follow up video so the community can bash Microsoft for this.

@seanclark8452

Жыл бұрын

@JayzTwoCents please pin this; the task close method is already blocked but this one worked with an install made the 2nd week of Dec '22 (leaving a date for folks watching this video later)

@thumppa

Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, this got me through today. For the record, the keyboard is still default to UK and the backslash is achieved by holding down the ALT key to the LEFT of the spacebar and type 92 (i.e. left ALT+92).

As a security contractor who regularly builds systems that should never have Internet access (isolated NVRs and physical access control systems) this will be quite helpful. Sharing it among all my fellow engineers. Thanks.

@ChristopherGray00

Жыл бұрын

or just use linux which solves the core problem which is microsoft always being keen on removing control from the user.

@user-tp5yb4hr4w

Жыл бұрын

and linux is also much cheaper to put together and it's made leaps and bounds in how it operates through out the years. in the past i would never go to linux because it was far too complicated to figure out unless you know that stuff well enough, nowadays it's pretty streamlined to the point where anyone could figure it out with little to no issue.

@ferocius7644

Жыл бұрын

Also take this alternative: Shift + F10, then type the following command: netsh wlan disconnect It will straight up disconnect the wireless device and you will be asked to create the local account

@Herbert2892

Жыл бұрын

And if you press ctrl+w right now in the browser your windows will disable any unoutorized access to internet

@user-tp5yb4hr4w

Жыл бұрын

@@Herbert2892 lol

I'm so sick of companies trying to keep their products after I shell out good money to buy them for myself. I'm done with all the always-on bullshit, these account tracking things (I've seen the same sudden pop-up of ads you mentioned several times), etc. Not buying any more, and going to jail-break everything I possibly can. If it dies in the process, then I'll go back to living without it. Because the alternative of just handing them more power pisses me off to no end.

@22oreos

Жыл бұрын

I suggest using Linux, it sounds great for you. My advice would be to get a second drive to dual boot Windows and Linux (although some distros like Pop!_OS don't work nicely with dual-booting, distros like Linux Mint do) or get a second/old computer to try out Linux first to see if you like it. You may not like it at first, as getting used to it can take time, but it's really cool doing away with the ads/tracking shenanigans, even if you go with one of the more corporate distributions like Ubuntu.

@alenasenie6928

Жыл бұрын

Just use linux, you pay 0, you get the privacy you want, it is easier to get programs, you really own it even when it is free, no ads and only a few programs that are considered standard (even when they aren't) don't work, change ms office for only office, there are many options to replace photoshop, and they work in linux flawlessly or with minor bugs like not catching the dark mode or things like that, if you are really sick of them, well, you can actually have a system that does what you want

@alenasenie6928

Жыл бұрын

@@22oreos if the more profit oriented distros ever put ads they will get a massive exodus, so, doing your best interests are in their best interest. We are currently seen how ubuntu is having that problem for letting down the gamer market.

@jasongalloway4645

Жыл бұрын

@@22oreos Amen! Even gaming (a pain point for a long time on Linux) is pretty good these days. Earlier this year Microsoft refused to activate Windows on a new build so I kicked Windows to the curb whole heatedly. I've been using Linux for several years now but kept a Windows install around for gaming. I still run into the occasional issue, but sorting them out is normally just a case of a little googling.

@prydzen

Жыл бұрын

@@alenasenie6928 Linux is not a gaurentee of privacy. Every major browser has telemetry on by default, on linux as well. Ubuntu once tried to put ads in their start menu which is a major telemetry concern. So even linux distros and major software like browser can have telemetry in them. And if you are gaming you can bet there is a lot of telemetry on your computer even while not running the game because of launchers and whatnot.

Can we just take a moment to appreciate the fact that this guy gave us 15 minutes of solid information, and how much work he must have put into this video (e.g. the self-made clips)? Also I got windows 11 from *thekey365*

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

6 ай бұрын

Jays two cents welcome to our video here buy this crap🤣

@lokibau

5 ай бұрын

also im a spam-bot

@SaraMorgan-ym6ue

5 ай бұрын

@@lokibau Hello Spam Bot How are you today? what is Pie divided by Q?

@lokibau

5 ай бұрын

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue yes

Oh I fully intend to remain on windows 10 until eol, and with Valve's work on Proton, and similar, I'll be using Linux most likely after win10 eol, unless microsoft stops trying to overstep, but I doubt it. Thankfully I'm already familiarizing myself with Linux beyond using it as a troubleshooting tool or for modifying windows when I'm "not allowed" to do something with my own PC lol

@System-zu7np

Жыл бұрын

As someone who made that switch a few years ago, life is good on the other side!

@jeffreytong

Жыл бұрын

Linux just needs HDR support :(.

@milkyway5573

Жыл бұрын

Windows 10 also has spyware

@RavenVargas27

Жыл бұрын

@@milkyway5573 Did not know that thanks

@lguthrie8607

11 ай бұрын

I still use Windows 7. Microsoft still releases security updates every now and then because I get the 'Update and shut down' prompts every now and then.

Dear Microsoft: give us the option to purchase your software and then leave us alone, or to be free with ads. Don't force us to have to work around your nonsense.

@thereddog223

Жыл бұрын

I agree

@martinmavroforakiss6024

Жыл бұрын

@Clash Stats That means we as users should be totally fine with having every bit of our information down to our home location be sold without our permission simply for Microsoft's own benefit? I think not.

@xcbrr50

Жыл бұрын

they dont want perpetual license, they want *perpetual* periodical charges with strings attatched

@Mad-Lad-Chad

Жыл бұрын

@Clash Stats You're arguing semantics. Most people know that they are getting a license to use the software, and even more would know full well that they are not buying the rights to the software itself. Regardless, the point of the comment you responded to still stands. If we buy the license, give us an option for no ads. If we don't wanna pay, give us a free option with ads. We shouldn't have to deal with this crap.

@tboneforreal

Жыл бұрын

Companies are all about recurring revenue now. They no longer want to sell you something once and be done. They want that monthly/yearly subscription or ad revenue.

Thank you for this, I’m going to download the ISO on a USB because I only run local accounts, was waiting for a fix so I’m comfortable to upgrade to 11 now :)

@user_of_the_name

Жыл бұрын

Actually (unless Microsoft has changed something since I upgraded) if you're on Windows 10 with a local account, Microsoft doesn't ask you for a Microsoft account when upgrading.

@NightcoreChase

Жыл бұрын

@@user_of_the_namewell I can’t even confirm this until Tuesday cause I’m in closed beta for a game but if someone else can confirm that be awesome !

@ReivecS

Жыл бұрын

Unless you have alderlake, what is the reason to move to 11? I literally have seen no feature or change that would improve my experience and give me any interest in "upgrading".

@NightcoreChase

Жыл бұрын

@@ReivecS not sure really, I’m on amd 3900x , something fresh I guess?

@WildWolfMax

Жыл бұрын

@@ReivecS maybe because people just wanna upgrade, for me it looks better visually and I have less issues with it than windows 10.

I was so pissed when I was setting up my new laptop and saw they'd tried to force the Microsoft account, so much that I straight up might have returned the thing if there was no way around it. I genuinely hate it here lol, I had the same experience where I was just TALKING to someone about where to eat one evening and then literally minutes later opened youtube and was getting ads for restaurants. This needs to be illegal somehow but the companies behind it are way too powerful for any politician to be willing to stand up to them.

@jeffkardosjr.3825

Жыл бұрын

They tried trust busting Microsoft in the 90s for way less.

You can actually make this "your account is locked" part much faster. I have a Microsoft account that I have locked out (not on purpose at the time, but Microsoft refuses to re-activate it).. It works well for making local accounts as I only have to put in the address and it'll give me the local account option.

@kataseiko

Жыл бұрын

@D Reaper Sure, but what AAA games company will optimize their games for Zorin? Many tax institutions will actively discourage you from using any type of Linux. Officially "for security reasons", in reality (allegedly) because of corruption and incompetence.

@juss-passin-thru

Жыл бұрын

@D Reaper nope

@Evangelionism

Жыл бұрын

@dreaper5813 Can Linux run Cubase, Dimension Pro 1.5, NieR Automata, Digital Performer, Kontakt 4, IK Multimedia, Serato, Genshin, and all of my Adobe roms and software?

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

@D Reaper As a Linux user: no.

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

@@Evangelionism So you use Windows only because you are forced to because of the apps? ( It's absolutely fair! Not your fault. ) This doesn't make Windows a good OS, it makes it a monopoly. And if we all keep using Windows, we'll never break free from this monopoly. More people have to start using Linux as their preferred OS. Everyone that doesn't need Windows, or people that are fine with dual boot, should use Linux. For a better future, for everyone. For me, for you, for everybody else. No one earns from Microsoft's dominance. Linux for the win.

Preach it Jay!! As a Windows user, since the early DOS boot days, I can verify your statements with certainty. Until we the consumer speak up and stand firm it will only get worse, eroding our autonomy. Appreciate your voice.

@MechThumbs

Жыл бұрын

The only way to do that is to hurt their bottom line. Because now, even if you say stop, Microsoft still makes money off you. They literally have us by the throat. You have to make that tough decision and move away from Microsoft.

@classicrockonly

Жыл бұрын

The problem is those who are savvy are a small minority. Those who will do something about it are an even smaller minority. MS doesn’t care about our protest, because if those who protested went away, they’d still be making huge profit margins

@AB-cg9np

Жыл бұрын

@@classicrockonly the problem is that this so called “minority” does not really bring much money in as they tend to be a bit more techy savy so they will shop around or find works arounds. Unfortunately a majority of that small group (I know… hehehe) can’t afford too much anyway so they overall don’t matter to Microsoft. As long as most of us click “Yes Yes, £50”, the minority will never have any impact. Sad but true.

@TheYdyp

Жыл бұрын

@@classicrockonly Sadly the truth here, just look at how many Apple Iphone users there are vs the android phones. Though a lot of android phones are tracking all your stuff as well these days. And the saddest part is that a lot of people even fully embrace this, just because one account ease of use and everything they have is centralized and synced over all their devices. However there are a few laws here in the EU at least (GDPR recent example) that try to tackle at least privacy concerns, but they are sadly pretty hard to enforce as long as there are geographical locations these do not apply to. As going after them is nearly impossible and blocking the internet never goes well. As an example for instance there is a part of the that GDPR is the annoying popup for cookie usage on websites, which also according to the GDPR need an easy option to disable all of the cookies and it should even be defaulted to disabled. But how many sites follow that? They just make that popup as annoying as possible to agitate people in the hope they will speak up against these laws.

@Mr.Morden

Жыл бұрын

3:36 The problem is the law. In the US we conflate free-market economics with anarcho-capitalism, so we let the corporations do anything at all no matter the consequences. Simultaneously these "free-market economics" proponents champion trade with non-free markets where it's literally illegal for labor to be organized and forced work is perfectly legal. Don't even get me started on the environmental impacts. I just want to leave you with the knowledge that your grandparents and great grandparents didn't put up with garbage like this back in the 50s and 60s when labor was valued.

I would definitely like to see more privacy based videos like this whether it is Microsoft or Google

@wallacesousuke1433

Жыл бұрын

@dreaper5813 sadly Linux isnt even close to a replacement for Windows unless you like to waste time and only wants to browse the web or use it as a server or use it for other nerd stuff, doesnt game or use essential software for work

@wallacesousuke1433

Жыл бұрын

@dreaper5813 not the exact same experience as installing Linux in order to play games... The Steam Deck obviously has full support from Valve, on your PC you're on your own, banging the head against the wall to solve issues, dependencies and other annoying workarounds (and pray your components are fully supported by Linux). And you're not really safe from being spied on, CPUs have backdoors so.. unless you use PC offline or build your own chips, good luck with that (and I hope you dont use cell phones, smarTVs with Alexa/etc, smart home stuff, yadda yadda)

@Starfleetcommand03

Жыл бұрын

​@Wallace Sousuke Dang I wasted a lot of time learning old computers, bios, file directories, commands, cpu architecture, etc. Bruh correct Linux is bare bones and isn't ease of access. That's the point just don't use it for those applications

@Starfleetcommand03

Жыл бұрын

​@@wallacesousuke1433 And yeah, gaming is scuffed on Linux from what I heard, but I've been learning about cool shit on the side! Don't let us computer wolves decide your choice

@seabassdarapper

Жыл бұрын

​@D Reaper can you at least admit that Linux requires more technical knowledge to install and operate?

At 9:30 When connected to internet, I usually instead got the "Skip this step (for later)" button on bottom part. This button maybe not displayed and will only show up when you hover over the hit area. On the other hand, it seems this also dependant on your installation disk type. You know, like company/educational version, "complete" version (for entertainment AND work), "standalone" version, clean lite, OS only, etc.

@Chaosfred

Жыл бұрын

@D Reaper "But, I can not play X games or run Y programs on Linux". Even in the video is already said the reason Linux is not solution is due to Linux has its own problems. Might as well run Steam OS here.

@chubbysumo2230

Жыл бұрын

as of 22h2 update, there is no option to skip on home or pro windows 11 versions without the ShiftF10.

@lemonludes9860

Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude that's what I did too

@punter1

Жыл бұрын

@@lemonludes9860 it worked?

@trippy8516

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 still just as corruptible just as vulnerable as any OS

Your authenticity just earned you a subscriber. Thank you for the info and for bringing your personality into this.

*There is a third way, the easiest way.* (works on the Pro edition, doesn't work on the Home edition) On the screen where you are being asked to choose "How would you like to set up this device?" you are given two options. Most people, since they are installing Windows on a consumer device, are going to go with the option to "Set up for personal use". That will bring up a screen asking you for the Microsoft Account credentials. But, by choosing the option to "Set up for work or school" and then choosing "Sign-in options" on the next screen you are now presented with the option to join a domain. Choose that one. It doesn't matter if the device you're installing Windows on doesn't belong to a corporate domain, it will work regardless. And, voila, the Microsoft Account is bypassed! *Like this comment so other people can see it.*

@sm1ofakind

Жыл бұрын

Thumbs up

@hexadroid6884

Жыл бұрын

Most consumers will have home edition though. And when you try to upgrade from home to pro, it also doesn't work.

@ediopop2

Жыл бұрын

thats how i made my local account

@thefamily730

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@angumech13

Жыл бұрын

What's the difference seen in Home vs Work/School account?

Yup, good video! For Windows 10 I run my own PowerShell script to remove/disable telemetry during my deployments for work (MDT still works great). For Windows 11, we're going to have even less control over disabling telemetry through what's provided by Microsoft and will have to resort to community-provided fixes and workarounds. And that changes at every damn build of both Win 10 and 11, just like you stated. Microsoft is in the business of big data, not end-user software as that's just a tool to collect the data.

@Miv51miv51

Жыл бұрын

Try using O&O's shutup10 - has a lot of the things you need to quiet down Win10. Dont know if they have one for Win11, as I havent upgraded myself.

@KenJackson_US

Жыл бұрын

Have you posted your powershell script anywhere?

@KenJackson_US

Жыл бұрын

Me, @@Jtzkb? I write lots and lots of shell scripts, but very little to do with Windows, and nothing to do with optimization like this.

@thomasjones6232

Жыл бұрын

Removing telemetry removes nothing. There are deep forensic subsystems that keep track of everything. The only way to get rid of the telemetry and deeper aspects of data collection is to remove Windows entirely and use a different OS. Linux or Unix based.

@awilson2385

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasjones6232 Oh, yes. The Linux nuclear option. Every time someone works on a fix for a Windows issue the "just use Linux" crowd comes crawling out of the basement like roaches. Not everyone likes Linux, not everyone wants Linux. Linux has its own problems and it's a bigger pain in the ass than Windows for the average user. The data mining is an issue, but Windows works far better in far more scenarios than Linux ever will. There are hundreds of Linux distros. The very first step is a pain in the ass-picking one. "Just use Linux". That phrase is now as annoying as the snot nosed cousin at every family gathering who wants to know "Got any games on your phone?". Same answer, though. "No. Now GTF away from me."

I tried what Cody Anderson recommended. Didn't work for me. I did what Jay said to do about the fake account and it worked for my sons computer. Thanks to you Jay, I will be putting my fisrt system together by myself. Keep up the great work!!!!!

Easiest way is get to the msft login screen and do shift f10, type ipconfig/release. Then just press back and you can make local account :)

It's kinda crazy that Jay needs to explain the reality that a good portion of the world's population don't have as great infrastructure like NA/Europe does. It's not just the extremely poor, some places really just have shitty infrastructure.

@Oll1000

Жыл бұрын

Maybe move to a city then and stop being a rural yokel? At least that seems to be the position large tech companies are taking. And since most people live in cities, enough people aren't suffering to actually change anything.

@josephsanders8921

Жыл бұрын

Even in the USA there are places that don't have internet or not enough infrastructure to support over "X" number of users. I had to wait almost 2 years for the local IP to upgrade to support more users.

@TricksterRad

Жыл бұрын

I mean, no internet/not having the infrastructure isn't really the reason to not make a MS Account anyways.

@international_hippie

Жыл бұрын

Lived in the Philippines for 3 years... in bulacan Sapang palay (very non tourist) but 95% of people had no access to internet in their homes. And all relied on internet cafes to do something as simple as send an email.

@jan-lukas

Жыл бұрын

Ever gone to Germany

Great video, it’s unbelievable the level of audacity these companies possess in order to breach privacy.

@iamajustababa2000s

Жыл бұрын

@@candysgames323 it is not true there can't listen to you by microphone till now don't know about future

@Puzzoozoo

Жыл бұрын

@@candysgames323 Nope, I'm in the UK and my medical records are protected by law, I do not use internet banking, my address is in public access, I rarely shop on-line, and I don't have vocal devices.

@michaelrichardson5505

Жыл бұрын

I mean technically we are using and usually pirating their property. (Not that i support or agree with microsoft in any way)

@l337pwnage

Жыл бұрын

Well, you're buying from a company that literally stole their main product from someone else, so, ethics is clearly not a thing for them.

@tedkaczynskiamericanhero3916

Жыл бұрын

@@Puzzoozoo Medical records are protected in the US as well. Too bad these companies have bought and paid for all of our legislators and will do whatever they want, and pay a small fine here and there. Do you think a company that's pulling billions per quarter, gives a shit about a couple million in fines every couple of years?

Thanks for the advice I'm in the prosses of updateing to a new build and don't know much on how win11 works. This is exactly the info I needed before install.

Updated my Bios on my Aurus X570 Elite Wi-Fi MB , i went from Version F2 To F35. What a Boost that Made after I reset the XMP Profile again. Renaming the Right, File after the download was the key, I never could get it to Work When I put by PC Together. Thanks For Teaching Jay...

Thank you! We all need to do this. This video should definitely get more likes and shares. I'm absolutely one of those that HATES these data grabbing idiots

@111YTt111

Жыл бұрын

they are, obviously

Personally I’m not interested in 11 at all, but this is good to know. I really do think this is the stupidest thing, and the issue of some folks living in places without internet is definitely a legit concern for some. Hopefully the law will eventually fix this…

@Zeriel00

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry in a few months/years Win10 will stop being supported by the CPU manufacturers. These corporations don't need our consent.

@DoctorX17

Жыл бұрын

@@Zeriel00 well, whenever 10 isn’t supported, Linux is my go-to. Also not perfect, but better with the right distro. And if it gets worse from there… I quit, taking my old gaming machines to northern Canada with a solar array and living off grid

@lolalex556

Жыл бұрын

fedora linux is the way to go until then they need some real competition for them to stop this crap and linux gaming is starting to come online with the steam decks release

@vincent67239

Жыл бұрын

Other than the privacy-invading stuff (which you can bypass, as indicated in the video), unless you have a mission-critical use case like work or creative stuff, I really don’t see any reason not to upgrade to the latest OS. And I’m speaking as someone who’s used Arch Linux as their primary OS for like a decade. I have Win 11 Pro on my gaming PC.

@jimtekkit

Жыл бұрын

Windows 10 was originally a disaster when it first came out, but given some time things get resolved and circumventing Microsoft's traps becomes easier. In due course it'll be a decent operating system.

The more predatory that Microsoft becomes, just makes me even more glad that I switched to Linux when I did (around the time of the Windows 8 era). I'd finally found a distro that I was happy with, that ticked all my boxes (Manjaro Linux), and I've never looked back since; eight years and counting.

@System-zu7np

Жыл бұрын

​@@deveneleven400most distros are fine assuming you want to use seam proton and lutris. Mint is a good enough choice and you can always change your mind later.

@donaldsmouse5439

7 ай бұрын

I know I am a year late, but yes I love Linux, I am using endeavor os with qtile, and love it.

Wow, it took you thirteen minutes to present solution that could be explained in less than one minute. That takes a special kind of talent. Thank you for the info.

I really hope Valve makes some big progress on Proton with all the renewed interest and incentive for other parties have to help now. Windows has been going downhill for so many years and I really just want freeing myself to be as painless as possible.

@scottdpugnificent

Жыл бұрын

If they only do 2.5 O.S. generations like usual it would suck

@ChristopherGray00

Жыл бұрын

they have, EAC and battleye are compatible with proton now, it's easy for the game devs to enable it, pretty much 85% of the steam library is playable with proton now.

@infasis

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristopherGray00 Unfortunately, I play a lot of games that have issues. Many I can get working with tips from ProtonDB users, but still many not. (Sadly, many devs/publishers won't change regardless of how easy it is. Just look at things like all the people begging for things like Elden Ring ultrawide support. Sizable userbases get ignored all the time.)

@colbyboucher6391

Жыл бұрын

It's at the point where it alllmost makes me want to just get a Series X and install Linux on a little laptop. Almost.

@soulhax

Жыл бұрын

"Windows has been going downhill for so many years" - subjective opinion. For me Win 11 has been the best and most enjoyable after win xp and 7.

Jay (and readers) you can press Ctrl-Shift-F3 at the first run wizard to get into the Admin account and install drivers and updates. Then the computer can be delivered to the end user ready for them to enter their own account details. It is called audit mode FYI

@MrHeHim

Жыл бұрын

I just posted about Shift + F10 to bring up the CMD window where you put in "oobe\bypassnro" to skip the account page to make a local account

@mikep9418

Жыл бұрын

The last time I installed Windows 11, I just unplugged the internet and selected back, then it set up as a local account. That was a few months ago so I don't know if they've changed it since then.

@cmgm6027

Жыл бұрын

@@mikep9418 Still works like that, but that doesn't get you youtube views I guess.

These tricks to get around the account have been super helpful in my IT job. Thanks!

@Jonathan-hf7pq

Жыл бұрын

@Linden Reaper the fake email works fit the sask manager does not. I used the fake email today.

Thank You!! This was something that really aggravated me.

This is quality content. IM staying on Windows 10 for as long as possible. Kudos to the people who keep figuring out how to stick it to the man

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

I'm running Windows 8.1 Professional on my main workhorse desktop until it finally becomes no longer viable to do so, then switching to my already existing MX Linux install for good. 8.1 may very probably be the last Windows version I'll ever consider running (along with all the older versions of course).

@davidjones5059

Жыл бұрын

Win 10 LTSC supported till 2029

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

@@davidjones5059 Just like how Windows 7 was fully supported during its lifecy-, oh wait, no it wasn't. >_> Microsoft will find some way to try to blockade use of Windows 10 on newer hardware sometime in the future just like they did with 7 and 8.1.

@ZackSNetwork

Жыл бұрын

@@arnox4554 Why Windows 8 it’s dated in 2022?

@-opus

Жыл бұрын

@@arnox4554 I 'upgraded' to windows 10 from 8.1 only last week (free legitimate 'upgrade'), so that I could get DirectX 12. With classic shell installed it really isn't that bad, no obvious improvements over win 8.1 noticed so far though, with only some minor new flaws. The linux devs need to work together to create something worthwhile in my opinion. I use manjaro on my HTPC and would love to use it as a daily driver, but it still seems unlikely. (I tried out more than a dozen different distros including MX before choosing manjaro).

If you install Windows 11 Pro, you can also choose to Domain Join the computer during the first time setup, then it will let you make a local account without actually needing to join a Domain.

@user-jm8sy5ox2j

Жыл бұрын

You still have to pay a significant price premium for windows pro over home edition for the privilege of not being forced to connect to a Microsoft account for installation. It's a total scam that nobody should have to deal with

@user-jm8sy5ox2j

Жыл бұрын

@Al 6r they will never force a Microsoft account on all systems. Large businesses would never consider signing on an enterprise Microsoft account on every system when that Microsoft account cannot be easily detached from the individual computer. Businesses are the main source of Microsoft revenue so they're never going to do something to drive away businesses

@AutoCannonSaysHi

Жыл бұрын

"It's a pro only feature." Still a problem

@Pandaalifter

Жыл бұрын

@@user-jm8sy5ox2j You actually don’t **need** Pro to make a local domain account, but it’s an obscure workaround that’ll probably eventually be patched with what Al 6r is talking about. For now though on Home edition, you can input the address of one of their test MS accounts like d@d.d and then a random incorrect password. After that you’ll get an error code and it’ll ask you if you want to make an offline local account. I’ve done it a dozen times over the past couple months.

@darranrowe174

Жыл бұрын

@Al 6r Where did they say they would get rid of offline account setup on Pro versions? Pro is used quite regularly in smaller businesses without domains. So doing this would be more destructive than you can imagine. There is also the issue where editions like Enterprise, Education and Pro for Workstations are virtual editions based upon Pro.

I fully expect your video is going to pop up when I turn on my pc in the future.. RIiip

you have one of the most real and truthful tech channels i've seen on KZread and i like that you give the same energy as channels like Mental Outlaw. you care about your viewers and give great tips, guides, and news to us all.

@qwarts4617

Жыл бұрын

I mean the vacume cleaner thing sounded like bs, no backing up evidence, he is just kinda says it but wont even provide proof or name the phone??

@Tynach

Жыл бұрын

@@qwarts4617 I've seen a number of people objectively test this. KZread won't let me post links, though.

@67hutch

Жыл бұрын

^^

@imaginary6014

Жыл бұрын

guess im not the only one here who watches mental outlaw - sent from arch linux

@JJAB91

Жыл бұрын

Nice Dross pfp

10:05 What Jay references here is called a "dark pattern" - it's a thing, look it up - those usually (miss-)use UI / user interface styling (i.e. YOUR personal perception) to make you do things that are in the interest of the company - not necessarily your personal interests. There's even a bunch of books about this topic.

@flameshana9

Жыл бұрын

Why is it legal to use deceptive terms to a layman?

@fluffyfloof9267

Жыл бұрын

@@flameshana9 * Mr. Krabs voice * MONEY!

@blahorgaslisk7763

Жыл бұрын

I try to make it a habit to actually read WTF I'm enabling or disabling just to avoid double negative use of options. A few times I've caught something that sure looks like an attempt to trick the user but I can't remember any in particular. But it's been something like "Disable user tailored advertisement protection? Y/N". The immediate reaction is to disable the spyware adverts, but then you see protection after and everything is turned upside-down. So I try to read it, but some times there's just to much and I automatically just disables everything. Yep, stupid I know...

@SamTheEnglishTeacher

Жыл бұрын

​@@flameshana9 the law hasn't caught up yet. In other contexts it is illegal to deceive customers - but we haven't felt the need to legislate UI components, until now-ish. Then again, who is the customer in this scenario...

@Zeriel00

Жыл бұрын

@@SamTheEnglishTeacher Oh sweet summer child, who do you think finances the politicians who sign the laws? or the think tanks that write them? Why do you think laws are now 10,000 pages long and nobody can read all of it before signing it?

Thank you so much for making this video Jay. We learn so many tricks from you. You're the best😀❤

Definitely this video helps! Every time you or other prominent youtubers present this problem with the current service models, it raises awareness. You can spread the word effectively to many more people than say I can by talking to my friends, one at a time. Kudos!

@_ryju_

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 That's exactly what we need as Microsoft releases more spywares in the form of operating systems.

@_ryju_

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 Microsoft removing support for 32-bit operating systems actually helped in that regard. Linux is made for the people, by the people; whereas Windows is made by Microsoft for maintaining their financial report's bottom line.

@_ryju_

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 That must have been a fun project to set up! I should also use my old Acer laptop to run as a static IP personal server. I think the decision to drop 32 bit support was basically to appease Microsoft's OEM partners, into forcing users to buy new hardware. All the while claiming that they are apparently spending money to control e-waste.

@_ryju_

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 That sounds like the business model from the computer shop is something that is impressive and I only wish that people were more aware about their options when purchasing a new computer. I understand the issue with raising awareness, since OEMs have almost no marketing budget to promote used PCs. So any advertisement is usually through word of mouth in this age of internet commerce. This is why I really hope the online stores do not completely obliterate walk-in stores where I can talk to an actual human (not an AI generated script being read by a call center employee) when I ask for my purchasing options. I myself bought old Thinkpads from Ebay, formatted them, installed Arch btw ;) and use one of them (a P51) as my main work and entertainment PC. That is how I gained familiarity with somevery basic server-side concepts. Most people can even use 7-8 year old PCs for a long time to come, considering their use cases. And I believe that slowly, but surely, people are considering other options as the hardware prices for both DIY and prebuilts are skyrocketing.

I work for an IT company that configures and installs new systems for multiple different companies. When we found out a few months ago that Windows 11 was going to require a Microsoft account we were all like "WTF?" I still can't believe Microsoft is pushing this crap, especially with Windows 11 pro\ent.

@sihilius

Жыл бұрын

I can't believe, that there is no backlash from big corporations on all of those issues. But maybe there are some deals involved. Who knows.

@incandescentwithrage

Жыл бұрын

Many organisations use AzureAD & Autopilot. The computer is joined to the company at the moment it's purchased. It gets shipped direct to the end user, they log in with their (work) credentials and all the required apps & settings are deployed automatically. No need for an MS account with that method. No need for the services you currently perform either, unfortunately.

@prydzen

Жыл бұрын

enterprise will have the options to turn off telemetry and online accounts. Its just the pro version that will be locked like home version.

@Dboyle1209

Жыл бұрын

As a sys admin, we deploy devices joined to active directory. No MS accounts required.

@SSubZero

Жыл бұрын

The Pro version currently allows a local account, and I'd hope at "multiple different *companies*" you're not using the Home version. I'm sure you're using unattend.xml, the OOBE can skip past even asking about an MS account. There's been some rumors about them making Pro require an MS account, not sure how far that will get.

Had this same issue a month ago. Glad someone finally came out with a solution. way to go JAY Z!

great video put it on laptop other day to test out before putting on main pc`s and it came to that screen that was it end of 11 for me thank you for work around will try it later

@dandan1818

Жыл бұрын

@@lindora6744 i used linux loads of times but im a gamer and it pains in ass is Linux even version dedicated to gameing wile some run well some other dont even with proton etc i would love to dump Microsoft and would a drop of pin if gaming was better

@dandan1818

Жыл бұрын

@@lindora6744 i iwish there was some more competitions in os market epscally gmaeing

@dandan1818

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 I'm not really interested in steam deck as it hand held as far i am aware with dedicated hardware for it no variations im not knocking Linux in any ways i think it great i just seem to have more issues than not i spent month trying to get games going read and read i may just dual boot and try again and see how it goes

@dandan1818

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 depending on distro some distro just a pain getting installed such Ubuntu USB 2 and 3 not working so some distro not installing due to lack of keyboard or mouse no matter what i read up on never works other just games freeze or never launch in such as pop os i think i need to mess again with dual book till i figure it all out

@dandan1818

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 what distro are you using just out of curiosity for gaming ? what have you found best and what do get games going

Hi good vid. What if you start with your Microsoft account at fresh install, then the first thing you do is to create a local account as admin account. You log into your local account, then delete the Microsoft one.

I just had this problem yesterday when installing an SSD in a co-worker's personal laptop. While installing Win10 in the SSD I made the mistake of connecting to Wi-Fi and then it required an MS account and wouldn't allow creating a local account, there was absolutely no way to skip it (I suppose I could've disabled Wi-Fi and that would've been it). I logged in with my account, did what I had to do, then created a local account and deleted my MS account - which worked, but it is definitely not cool. I did confirm my user folder was successfully deleted, so I hope that was the end of it.

@BradleyGibbs

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the way to go then would have been to disable wifi after the updates had completed

@Lanka0Kera

Жыл бұрын

You should go check what your microsoft account says online. Because it just might list the machine still under your account. I know that from having to check something online and finding I had more PCs/serial keys listed under my account than I should have..

@lucasrossiemc

Жыл бұрын

@@Lanka0Kera Good idea, thanks!

@TheKeyboardDemon

Жыл бұрын

Fastest way to task manager is to hold shift and ctrl then tap the esc key.

@BradleyGibbs

Жыл бұрын

@@TheKeyboardDemon that usually doesn't work in an OBEE environment.

You know, I really love those practical videos that are not just about hardware but about what users can do - just like this helps me a lot. As well as the Fan Control video - great!

IT STILL WORKS, at the time of writing November 22nd 2022. At least on my new Lenovo Ideapad Gaming. First thing I did though was to disable Wireless in BIOS, before Windows had the chance to start. I have no idea if that enabled it or if it didn't matter. Any way, I exactly like in the video and it worked perfectly

@EyesOfByes

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper5813 If you disable wireless hardware in BIOS settings, then it works. At least for me, even after Windows update (as of late nov 2022)

11:43 There's also a huge difference between a creator generating a bit of revenue in order to keep creating content and a multi-billion dollar corporation selling your information to increase quarterly profits. Microsoft could have none of its ad bullshit and still be making obscene amounts of money, while a content creator not running ads could be the difference between getting to create content and not.

@sihilius

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and also Jay won't take a look through your camera, save your browser history and your files on his server and stream your audio. Also he won't annoy you with suggesting you using a half functional search engine on a otherwise decent browser that's only actually useful for gathering even more data about you.

@JourG215

Жыл бұрын

You realize almost all tech companies do this. Google is the one that made the trend popular. And for people who have never worked in development... We don't always track certain things for enjoyment or profit but because certain features require that information. For example, KZread always had a recommendation for you how do they know what you like? OMG they "track watch you're watching". I still can't believe Jay made this video I thought he was smart.

@blackmarszero6528

Жыл бұрын

@@JourG215 I get your point but also it's a bad defence because it creates an asymmetry in information which allows you to abuse people. I recommend you watch Last Week Tonight's episode on data brokers, with the stunt at the end imagen if he was targeting children, then remember companies are already.

@tonivazquez1081

Жыл бұрын

​@@JourG215 Really? Are you defending this terminal stage anarcho capitalist corporation paradise, human rigths be damned? Really, take a good look at yourself. U may not like the result.

@JourG215

Жыл бұрын

@@blackmarszero6528 Point is, the privacy debate is very nuanced. Any attempt to collect data we have to collect to provide a service to begin with is referred to as "spying". Not one person looks at individual data, a lot of the data is encrypted. What I'm getting at, is that ignorance about how things work show when you make statements like Jay just did. He clearly has no idea what he's talking about. Also, why not apply the same outrage at every other app/website/service/os you use? We all know MSFT did some shady shit many many many years ago but they have since just become a default target to hate. Which is morronic.

Quality content as usual. Even if it may look as a trivial thing this is just the kind of answers people look for. Either you're a crazy overclocker or a casual user, this channel has got you covered. Also, good guy Jay is always looking out for us not to be swindled by big tech companies. Cheers to you guys!

Thank you SO MUCH for this video. My son is handicapped and so relies on me (technically challenged) to set up his computers. I recently purchased him a new computer system but could not get past the Microsoft Account option. My son does not have a cell phone or e-mail address so I was trying to use my information. Nothing worked as it kept rejecting the inputs which obviously defaulted back to me. The SHIFT+ F10 workaround worked just great. I can 't thank you enough!

As of the ISO available in November 2022, the Network Connection Flow fix from this video does not work for Windows 11 Pro. What does still work is the following: Continue through the install, but at the user entry screen press Shift+F10, type "oobe\bypassnro" without spaces or quotes, then before Windows finishes the restart, unplug the ethernet cable. (Sorry if duplicate post.)

@dale8995

Жыл бұрын

@D Reaper I would agree. Except that many (most?) applications are written to work only on Windows. Until that changes I am stuck

@grege7814

Жыл бұрын

this worked for me on a new acer laptop. it required shift fn F10 for cmd prompt

Thanks Jay for being honest and the voice of the consumer.

@OlviMasta77

8 ай бұрын

*the customer

paused at 4:24 here, to say, there is a way to prepare a system even if you dont have the microsoft account, you press ctrl+shift+f3 after boot windows on that screen where it asks you the country, the account you want to use and stuff, and will restart in audit mode with the local administrator account to let you pre-install all the software, drivers and stuff, and when you finish, you use sysprep.exe (that will auto open everytime you reboots in that mode) to prepare and shutdown the machine, so when the real owner of the machine first turns it on, will ask for their credentials and they can do the process of a new out-of-the-box machine as if you had bought from dell or anything. i do that if i need to prepare a machine for a friend.

This Network-Skip-Taskmanager-thing tipp saved my day! I try install Win 11 on a ROG Hero Z790 Intel Lan 1226V and i see no connections / Lan Cable pluged in, Wifi pluged in, Bios updated / and i have to skip that damn thing because i cant continue without Network. Thank You

I already got used to seeing ads for stuff that was talked about. But recently I got an ad for something I only THOUGHT about. Like immediately whitin 5 minutes, after I started my computer. And it was such a niche topic that it was way beyond any chances of random ad targeting luck.

To tie into the ad conversation, I have a crazy story. I was talking to a coworker about a product, in a roundabout way without ever saying the name and he did the same, just chatting for about 5 minutes. Not a minute later do I go to open Amazon and the product was on the front page. The exact one. How it extrapolates data to pull that from nondirect information is INSANE.

As a sys admin, one of the reasons network is checked/verified prior to account creation is to see if the device is present within any organizations Azure AD and Intune (MEM). If so, Autopilot can be used to provision the device to a company MDM, install apps, hybrid join to local AD, etc. Its an easy way to have an IT department order a laptop ahipped directly to a users home, as opposed to having IT image the machine in house.

Man I sooo agree with what you said but believe me, my friend just added ubuntu in a dual boot setup and bitlocker just locked his windows drive up. At that time the only place where we could find the key was in microsoft account.

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

Flippin bitlocker...

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

Mmh well, if he would use Ubuntu as primary OS, and use Windows only for specific tasks, then even if Microsoft would spy on him, they wouldn't get much data i guess.

I recognize this is an older video but meant to comment a while back. Have to say great content... like the humour and the way you present! Another great video would be monitoring two clean installs of Win XP and Win 10 or 11... the traffic going out to different Microsoft servers and partners. Surprising!! Not that Microsoft is so terrible... ok they are LOL! The more of our data that is out there no matter who has it and how integral they are.. the larger the attack landscape overall and the more risk to our security and privacy. We can set groups policies... some good tools for that too to automate a large amount of changes but we never get it all, and for how long before Microsoft finds a way around it and reverts changes as they have been known to do with other settings. With all that and they really need to try and force an account with email making it even less secure. And you're right Apple known for privacy and what they sell on is getting worse all the time! I love linux but can't run everything I need with it, in addition needing to stay familiar with MS and MacOS due to my work... or I would't use anything else. As one commenter posted here a good idea would be if developers would get moving more on linux to make it more of a viable alternative. Now I know the kernel is built by large companies too... all have their part in it but we can look at the code at least and know what's going on. Our dev teams doing this kind of thing need the support to make it worth their while. They do what they do most not for the money but they love what they are doing. Sorry for such a long post here. Thanks again for the great content!

Gaming is the sole reason I still have a windows computer, I'd be full Linux if I could run games and the Adobe suite all in one place.

@banescar

Жыл бұрын

Linux gaming is really big now thanks to the Steam Deck!

@aqmohra4

Жыл бұрын

Same. Use windows for pirated games and software like Adobe

@Voltaic_Fire

Жыл бұрын

You can game on Linux though.

@miikasuominen3845

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Single player games, mostly, work OK on Linux today. Sadly, multiplayer, is a different thing... I hope it's going to change in the future.

@byron_00

Жыл бұрын

I respect that decision, but I've been gaming on Linux for 20 years just fine for the most part.

I can say that the first workaround has been in place since the release of Win11. Used to work in a computer repair shop and, when it came out, our lead techs scoured through forums and the system settings/command prompt/task manager to find workarounds, and within a week of release, we had mainstreamed this process. It's incredibly effective and saves massive headaches.

@smartassist9700

Жыл бұрын

What if I need MS OFFICE.

@OriginalMergatroid

Жыл бұрын

You don't need a work-around in the Pro version. You can still install with a local account.

@OriginalMergatroid

Жыл бұрын

@@smartassist9700 Use an older version. Or just let Office log into a MS account while you use a local account in Windows. I have set up lots of Windows PCs this way.

@Digikidthevoiceofreason

Жыл бұрын

@@OriginalMergatroid Not true. I have the pro version and it gave me the exact same BS as shown in this video. I had to do this trick.

@lilbitretro6377

Жыл бұрын

@@smartassist9700 Sadly I'm not aware of any methods to circumvent the need for an account for MS Office. At that point, I'd recommend Libre Office or Google Docs, however there may be some compatibility issues when sending docs to MS Office users, plus there may be other features that you'd need. You might be able to find a cracked copy of Office, though this may cause issues when Windows tries to update the program (which it will inevitably force an update because MS doesn't care about your wants).

Still works as of today! November of 2022, thank you!

I have just installed it and I had the button to click like in win10 that says I don't have internet! So they listened to you after all :)

On the education and enterprise versions there is an option to bypass the Microsoft account requirement and just login locally it's called connecting to a domain and the funny thing is you actually don't have to connect to a domain. You can just leave it as a local account forever. Unfortunately Microsoft doesn't sell those versions to the public the most sold to corporate and colleges.

@ThePlayerOfGames

Жыл бұрын

Surely you can just download the ISO of these versions or purchase OEM editions of them? If not… Linux

@OriginalMergatroid

Жыл бұрын

The option is also there in Win 11 Pro.

@OriginalMergatroid

Жыл бұрын

@@ThePlayerOfGames If you have Pro it's not an issue.

What I do is connect to the network, then you get to the screen where you have to create an account. Unplug the ethernet cable, restart the PC. Now when you get back to the setup, there will be an option to create an offline account. Do that, plug back in the ethernet cable, job done :)

Have a local account on my laptop. But was receiving KZread recommendations based on the discussions I had at home! People called me paranoid. But after I turned off the microphone in Device Manager, it stopped. Unfortunately I have to use ZOOM meetings for job, and I turn the microphone for them, then I sometimes get KZread recommendations based on what I said during the meetings.

@alexapuerta

Жыл бұрын

Curious if you tried turning off KZread personalized ads then see what happened after using your mic again.

I just had to look this up the other day. I'm like you: I hate tying my OS to an online account, especially for my primary admin account! Thank you for sharing this with the world so others have a reliable source to do this! Doing God's work, as always, Jay!

Thanks for taking the time to do this video, and looking out for your community in the way that you do. Thanks, Jay and team. I’m middle aged and just built my first rig ever this year (GPUs, ouch) My first gaming PC (workstation). 3080/12700K 3xLG Ultragear 32in. 1440p nano. It’s allowed me to work for myself, pursue the creative outlets I love, and just overall improve my QOL. I learned all the fundamentals here. Truly. You, GN, and a few random how tos and I now can build a PC no problem. I enjoy it. The fact that you offer such value, look out for the privacy/safety of your audience/community is what keeps me coming back. JayzTwoCents offers high value, integrity, and relatable content from good human beings. You do important work. Thank you.

@Dennzer1

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. And, congrats I guess. I's damn middle aged myself and disabled, and would be lost without this PC hobby, and channels like the ones you described. Also spent too much getting to have a 5800X, 6700 XT, Nu Audio Pro with Edifier S2000MKII, and an M32Q.

@wicksleysnipes1476

Жыл бұрын

@@Dennzer1 congrats to you on enjoying your setup as well, man. Not sure about the other things you mentioned but I’ll look up. For audio I’m running some Fluance Ai60s, Schiit Stack (Modi, Magni, Loki w/short cables) Sennheiser 600s and an assortment of other headphones I love. Making my office into a place I love to go makes work far more satisfying. Keep it up, homie. Thanks for reaching out.

@wicksleysnipes1476

Жыл бұрын

@@Dennzer1 hmm. I looked that up, I’ve never thought of a sound card. But, I guess my DAC/Schiit Stack negates the need for one. It is of high quality.

@Dennzer1

Жыл бұрын

@@wicksleysnipes1476 Yeah, it probably does. It depends on how good it is, but it easily could be a good one. Sound cards have the advantage of not taking up desk space. And I really like the quality of my Nu Audio Pro. I think that is probably the best sound card available today, though stock has been almost non existent lately.

@Dennzer1

Жыл бұрын

@@wicksleysnipes1476 Thanks man. appreciate that. And it sounds like you have some very nice audio gear there yourself. I bet those speakers sound really great. Just a quick rundown of those models I mentioned, the M32Q is a gigabyte 1440p 170 Hz IPS monitor with great reviews from the pro reviewers like Hardware Unboxed. Edifier S2000MKIII are very nice speakers with a 5.5" woofer on each and a higher end ribbon tweeter on each. Very heavy speakers, Hi Res audio certified, lots of power and low end for $450 cad. ( they have since been raised to $650 cad ) And the 5800X CPU and 6700 XT GPU are great gaming silicon that drives that monitor well for 1440p gaming content. I would like to hear more about your "Schiit Stack (Modi, Magni, Loki w/short cables)" and all of that sounds great but I know almost nothing about that stuff, specifically/../

Thats probably why the guy sitting next to me at work started to get a bunch of vacuum cleaner ads on his phone immediately after i moved and needed a new one! Was talking about getting one and then he showed me an add for the exact one i was looking at on hes phone, they just started showing up from us talking with our phones on the table!

Still works J............your a legend...........

I'm interested in hearing about the sets of problems in Linux. Can you do a video on that?

@unfa00

Жыл бұрын

As a full-time Linux user I'd love to hear that as well :D I've recently upgraded my GPU from RX580 to RX6800XT and Linux just worked after reboot. I installed an extra AMD driver for raytracing (vulkan-amdgpu-pro) and I could play Quake II RTX without even rebooting. On Windows I spent 30 minutes updating drivers and rebooting like 3 times before I could do the same thing. Sometimes things are easier on Linux. Sometimes they are not. Hibernation likes to stop working from time to time. Though Windows crashes when I suspend it, so I have to hibernate it instead. BTW: I have Windows only because Adobe won't let me activate Substance Painter on Linux with a CC subscription, and I need that for work. I could get a one-time license on Steam and use that, but my employer already got me a CC license. At least I can compare how things work between Linux and Windows I guess.

@dylon4906

Жыл бұрын

@@unfa00 didn't expect to see you here but that's awesome, i remember I was genuinely dumbfounded when I first installed manjaro and my graphics drivers just worked out of the box. I was so used to having to install them manually it really threw me a loop

@GiblixStudio

Жыл бұрын

i'd like to hear that as well. since i'm not experiencing any major issues

@awilson2385

Жыл бұрын

Start with picking one of the, literally, hundreds of Linux distros.. Then one of the desktop UIs.

Thank you for this!! And glad that big YT channels bought this up! I am forced to use my Microsoft account since it didn’t give me an option to create a local account. Microsoft should have this as an option as well and not being forced to and digging through various menus just to create one.

JayzTwoCents....Not the hero we wanted, but the hero we needed. Thank you sooooo much for this. I'm old and set in my ways, and while "I don't have anything to hide" it still not anyone's business.

@OlviMasta77

8 ай бұрын

​@@dreaper5813show me how to game on ubuntu and I might

I was installing it on the laptop just now and i click Fn+Wireless and moved to Airplane mode. It installed flawlessly.

We need a video where Jay talks about Linuxs own share of problems. the comment section of that video will be fun.

@TheShawMustGoOn

Жыл бұрын

@@eepy_catgirl Wayland and Nvidia *coughs*

@bishopofeternity48

Жыл бұрын

@@TheShawMustGoOn didn't nvidia recently change that by open sourcing their drivers?

@Druiduk1973

Жыл бұрын

@@bishopofeternity48 - Only for the new cards.

@bishopofeternity48

Жыл бұрын

@@Druiduk1973 baby steps

Awesome work around. One thing I noticed when I fresh installed Windows 11 on a new laptop was that it completely skipped the MS account login screen when it didn’t recognize any network drivers installed. So it was a similar situation as ending that task.

I went to install Windows 11 and I only have a wireless access point for internet, brand new computer I built myself and the wireless drivers were not working. Luckily I learned that you could interrupt the install, get out to the shell and install the drivers from USB, but that is pretty technical. It is insane to use the internet for an OS install.

@TheBaldr

Жыл бұрын

​@D Reaper Not going to happen when half the the AAA video game developers are owned by Microsoft.

Excellent! Huge props to you for this. I knew there was a work around this helps tremendously as a builder.

Just wanted to thank you again for this Jay. I'm trying to get Win10 installed on a new laptop that came with Win11 and, for me, it's easier to get into the OS to use the reinstall options. Saved me a lot of hassle here - I'm not interested in trying Win11 yet. Rock on!

@garyr7027

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't get a spare drive and start over from scratch?... it's what I would have done. Then if you ever sell the laptop, put the old drive back in.

@idogaming3532

Жыл бұрын

@Fashinqu A. EndeavorOS ftw.

@countmorbid3187

Жыл бұрын

@@garyr7027 Exactly what i did with my laptop. Installed a new bigger nvme and kept the old one as is. If any probs occur, just swap and be on my merry way again!

There is another way by opening command prompt(shift + f10) and type oobe\bypassnro and then it'll reboot and then you have a option to create an local account

@dionelfring1705

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 Well I used to work at a computer store and thats not so long ago that I left and then it still worked.

@dionelfring1705

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 fortunately thats only your opinion and not mine :)

QUESTION: I just bought a new laptop with Windows 11 Pro, but I want to partition the hard-drive and do a fresh re-install and get it the way I want. Can I just find and use the current Windows 11 key for the re-install? Will that work?

I love the fact that Jay just tells it like it is. Keep up the good work sir!

I'm an employee at a custom pc building shop and we've been killing the task since it came out, I really hope they dont change it, it would suck if we had to put in fake information, and users, or us have to change it later

@cat_not.on_Nip

Жыл бұрын

Okay question, given that you are now a local account user, but lets say you need/want to download an app (or even Switch to windows 11 from the S mode version) from the windows store, would connecting to it defeat the whole perpose of doing that entire process just to get a local user account or it wouldn't affect it at all?

Hi Jason, I'm writing this comment in the future 6 months to be exact. I tried the shift f10 in a pre-built Lenovo yoga 6 with Windows 11 and all it would do is ask me about the display but I washed another user who mentioned pressing function shift and f10 and now the command prompt comes up for me. So for anybody that reads this comment, if you tried shift f10 you need to hold the function key shift and f10 and it should work. It work for me on a pre-built Lenovo yoga. 6.

You can also click sign in options and then select "Domain Join" and it will skip asking for a Microsoft Account

Thank you very much for making this video! In my opinion it's not so much about this specific "trick" but more about the general message: Microsoft (and others) are collecting as much data as possible - people need to be aware of that!

@8bitbasslines312

Жыл бұрын

The sad reality is most people don't realise the power of this kind of data and don't seem to care. Big upz Jay you are the Man!

So glad you feel the same way about corporate privacy intrusion!!! TY!

Goin linux for everything and lookin for pre ME/psp computers that can keep up. Hoping the new competition doesnt sell out to the glowies but dont expect really.

Thank you I work for a pawnshop and with lockdown on the cloud being a must this help to ensure original user data has been wiped off the pcs so we could ensure no user. data gets abused.

Thank you so much for this! I will only run local accounts on my computers and your video makes me more comfortable about upgrading to Win11. Thank you again and keep being awesome!

Thanks! Really appreciate your videos and the work you put in to make them Jay.

The have been doing it with Windows 10 also. Every file you save to your computer, all your online activates are uploaded to MS.

Wish I had run into this a week or so ago. I had to get a new computer and needed to be online to download a Linux distro before reformatting and setting up an OS that I actually wanted to use. To get there I had to go through the furiously infuriating process of both using an online MSFT account and CREATING one before actually using the damned computer. Hideous.

@gpenn7201

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 yeah if your a nerd with a tiny baby pc

@gpenn7201

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 i control women not computers

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 Ye, Windows is garbage, but a lot of us are forced to use it. Happy for you that you can stick to Linux.

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

@@dreaper2087 You are not convincing people to switch to Linux with that attitude, just a kind advice.

@Azarilh

Жыл бұрын

@@gpenn7201 Cringe