Golf R vs Kia Stinger - The Best All Wheel Drive Automatic Hatchbacks For $50,000

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2020 Kia Stinger GT and VW Golf R Review. These are two of the best AWD Automatic Hatchbacks or Sportbacks that you can get for $50,000. Thinking about the Genesis G70, Subaru WRX STi, Honda Civic Type R, Ford Focus RS? Check these out
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  • @TheStraightPipes
    @TheStraightPipes4 жыл бұрын

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  • @uputku

    @uputku

    4 жыл бұрын

    TheStraightPipes golf r

  • @drewcook12

    @drewcook12

    4 жыл бұрын

    Golf R but I want a stinger too

  • @Elias_g1

    @Elias_g1

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stinger GT. There are so many golfs everywhere nowadays...

  • @autochap4745

    @autochap4745

    4 жыл бұрын

    MANUAL GOLF R

  • @Elias_g1

    @Elias_g1

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@autochap4745 nice joke !

  • @MrGanmay
    @MrGanmay4 жыл бұрын

    You guys are on a different level when you have 2 cars!

  • @freshtowels3917

    @freshtowels3917

    4 жыл бұрын

    homemade top gear vibes

  • @timtime88
    @timtime884 жыл бұрын

    "oh but its just a kia" yes. kinda like GT-R is just a nissan. like GT is just a ford. like ZR1 is just a chevy.

  • @iluvcakes19

    @iluvcakes19

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol. Golf R is just a VW.

  • @tejaswipradhan558

    @tejaswipradhan558

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@iluvcakes19 technically the r8 is just a vw too

  • @user-daviddog

    @user-daviddog

    4 жыл бұрын

    What?🙀

  • @MrSamwiseable

    @MrSamwiseable

    4 жыл бұрын

    but its just a kia...

  • @itsthatbeeguy

    @itsthatbeeguy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did we not learn anything from making fun of Japanese cars in the 70s. Korean cars have come a long way.

  • @azzurasquadra5552
    @azzurasquadra55524 жыл бұрын

    I had a mustang 5.0, a focus RS, now i own a stinger GT limited been a month now...damn what a car, still cant believe im driving a Kia, if u ever dreamed of owning a bmw, audi or a even porsche panamera but dont have the budget for it, the stinger is for u, the perfect blend between a sport and luxary car...im 46 yrs old, the best car i ever had

  • @fshavlo

    @fshavlo

    4 жыл бұрын

    so IM Driving Lexus GS 450h F Sport.so I do Test Drive kia stinger gt REally nice Car sooo if I Havn#t Lexus I will be buy kia..Best Price Market

  • @PieMK6R

    @PieMK6R

    4 жыл бұрын

    I owned a tuned golf r and a tuned stinger gt sounds like a new planet to explore. Have fun

  • @tma78

    @tma78

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kia has just managed to bring a 3rd person across from bmw to their team. He helped design the i8. The person before him was the top guy from M division who gave you the stinger and GT variants, plus the N variants for Hyundai. And the first was the chief designer for bmw for 5 years. I own a mk6 golf r, and have been looking at a kia seltos gt line. Yeah it's not quick in anyway, but I like the styling and low risk of speeding fines or loss of licence as I always play up in my R. And the police in Australia use kia stingers.

  • @ranimbill9331

    @ranimbill9331

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why sell the RS? I know that it doesn't have features like rear cross alert etc but that car was voted number 1 in motoring fun

  • @mitchfortson8413

    @mitchfortson8413

    3 жыл бұрын

    I Love my Veloster N performance package 2020 and im 50

  • @jgreen1071
    @jgreen10714 жыл бұрын

    Wow, who would have ever thought a KIA would have "cool factor"?? 🤣🤣 Kia has literally shown and proved their way into relevance. Respect.

  • @ZACH_95_

    @ZACH_95_

    3 жыл бұрын

    40 Roller I’m pretty sure once people drive these they could care less that it’s a Kia. 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @Sean-pb5cn

    @Sean-pb5cn

    3 жыл бұрын

    @40 Roller just another closed minded badge snob talking like he knows sh** 🤣

  • @Florida_954

    @Florida_954

    3 жыл бұрын

    True i remember 5 years ago saying who tf would buy a kia and now i see them everywhere and i’m planning on getting the stinger LOL

  • @PK-eo8kp

    @PK-eo8kp

    3 жыл бұрын

    @40 Roller KIA from South Korea is setting the benchmark. Genesis too in the luxury segment. Get out of that rock ffs.

  • @dunnowy123

    @dunnowy123

    3 жыл бұрын

    My Mom has a Sorento, my sister a Rio and I have the Stinger. KIA has us. They make really good quality vehicles and the Stinger is UNBELIEVABLE. I love this thing.

  • @mistamaog
    @mistamaog4 жыл бұрын

    "You've got blind spot monitoring too right? "Yeah my eyes" My favorite line of the day

  • @davidgeerling9871

    @davidgeerling9871

    4 жыл бұрын

    I say that to my brother, when he talks about hot spot mirrors !!

  • @M67v
    @M67v4 жыл бұрын

    Stinger GT I’m surprised the prices are so close. But I feel the Stinger is just more car for less money

  • @bestbomb17

    @bestbomb17

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its not even the gt2 twin turbo tho

  • @bestbomb17

    @bestbomb17

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tomdoe1234 they need to change the title then

  • @MrrHouse

    @MrrHouse

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bestbomb17 these guys are from Canada, I think their trim levels are different from America.

  • @bestbomb17

    @bestbomb17

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrrHouse ahh ok

  • @litespeed65

    @litespeed65

    4 жыл бұрын

    Price is only close because of the custom paint on the Golf R- otherwise it's $44,000 CAD vs the Stingers $51,000 I have a 2018 Golf R w/DSG after 3 Manual GTI's and it's the best Golf ever made- period. AWD/near 300 hp/no oversteer plowing in the Winter- it just GOES. The A35 AMG hatch may be my next car though.

  • @bjhaines3282
    @bjhaines32824 жыл бұрын

    I'm in the States and bought a 2019 Stinger GTS last week. That's the enthusiast-spec edition with only 800 made world-wide. Bright orange and rear-wheel drive. Absolutely the most exciting and pleasurable to drive car I've owned. After 10 years of German cars I can tell you this GTS absolutely puts them to shame! And it's a looker... no other vehicle I've owned has garnered a fraction of the attention. Had a stranger yell at me the other day "I LOVE YOUR CAR!". Pretty sure that's not a usual reaction to a Kia...

  • @BrianCantybollox

    @BrianCantybollox

    4 жыл бұрын

    BJ Haines what he said👆 I bought one of the first GTS RWD in the uk at launch and its just awesome. I have 4 sports cars spanning 70s80s90s and 2000 but this thing is just great. I can get everything in it including kids etc. Exhaust is boring. Would be great with bimodal manual switch other than that it’s mega

  • @bbprime5017

    @bbprime5017

    4 жыл бұрын

    Congrats when I was buying mine I was deciding between this and Tesla model 3 decided on model 3 but still great car!

  • @bjhaines3282

    @bjhaines3282

    4 жыл бұрын

    BB Prime thanks! And likewise!

  • @bjhaines3282

    @bjhaines3282

    4 жыл бұрын

    BrianCantybollox congrats on your car! Yep, I’d also like a throatier exhaust note.

  • @ErnestoCruzBey

    @ErnestoCruzBey

    4 жыл бұрын

    That color looks hideous looks like a taxi

  • @bern7851
    @bern78514 жыл бұрын

    I remember rolling down the window was normal, now we complain about pressing a button to unlock the door haha 😂

  • @dungteller367

    @dungteller367

    3 жыл бұрын

    good one, now I hate dealing with a key one of our vehicles is PB start the other uses a key. I don't drive that one too much, yes we are getting spoiled and lazy.

  • @scorped76
    @scorped764 жыл бұрын

    Small correction; the Stinger's 8 speed is an in-house design, not ZF. It's a good design, just not as quick shifting as the ZF.

  • @IReahpZz

    @IReahpZz

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@SaintMecha its a new unit, I don't beilve it was related to the older 8speed in the genny coupes

  • @suserman7775

    @suserman7775

    4 жыл бұрын

    The transmission is one of my favorite things about this car, which I drive every day. In comfort mode it's smooth, but has logic built in to hold revs higher when it "detects" you're driving hard. In sport mode shifts are quicker but still not jarring. Since I have the BASE GT and not the GT2, I also get a manual mode shift selector on the center shifter, as well as the paddles. Sometimes i use the left paddle for downshift and the center lever for upshifts. Great fun.

  • @TheStraightPipes

    @TheStraightPipes

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah my bad. Used to driving so many cars with ZF 8spd the word ZF is stuck in my head anytime I say 8spd lol

  • @rizaldarrasheed4043

    @rizaldarrasheed4043

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is ZF a brand for making transmissions? Sorry, I don't know what ZF means.

  • @diegolijeron9279

    @diegolijeron9279

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rizaldar Rasheed Yes, it makes an extremely good 8 speed automatic that a lot of car manufacturers use, from the Trailhawk SUV (707 hp) to sedans like M5 and other 5 series.

  • @dudemcdudeston7985
    @dudemcdudeston79854 жыл бұрын

    @ 0:53 i always think yall should include weight when you show the power numbers 🤷‍♂️

  • @iBlogGadget

    @iBlogGadget

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kyle Ebbitt nah, too much info. Put it later in the video

  • @dudemcdudeston7985

    @dudemcdudeston7985

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@iBlogGadget yeah one more stat would simply be too much, who could handle reading power AND weight at the same time? What was i thinking?

  • @techmaster777

    @techmaster777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kyle Ebbitt I’m glad you realized your mistake good effort.

  • @fadedsincedayone

    @fadedsincedayone

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not really a big deal except in this case which is most likely why the r is quicker since it’s lighter

  • @techmaster777

    @techmaster777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jace MK7 Bruh what is he talking about. My GTI is 3200 pounds with me in it and makes 520-530 whp and 430 + whtq on kill mode it’ll take out a tuned hellcat making 700 whp easy.

  • @BeverlyDTV
    @BeverlyDTV4 жыл бұрын

    It is soooo astounding to see how far y’all have come in the editing, production, and presentation. 🤩 I was convinced I wanted a Telluride next but damn this Stinger would be a perfect car for my midlife crisis.

  • @fanofsongs
    @fanofsongs4 жыл бұрын

    holy shit the fluidity of this video is off the charts, good work you two + whoever edited it!

  • @SpaceMissile

    @SpaceMissile

    3 жыл бұрын

    consistently good work from this group. 10/10

  • @vandaandriievska95
    @vandaandriievska954 жыл бұрын

    Stinger is supposed to be a GT car, not a track car. And considering it keeps up with basically the best hot hatch VW has in terms of handling I think it is a big success.

  • @armoduesgrimlock7677

    @armoduesgrimlock7677

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well it's the best hot hatch VW is willing to give us. I genuinely have no idea why they keep detuning the R seemingly every model year while increasing the performance of the GTI. Almost no reason to go with the R these days.

  • @kaboomcards6219

    @kaboomcards6219

    4 жыл бұрын

    With Kia putting out a whole new GT-Line for the 2020 year, they are really headed in the right direction for the cars they make: fast, luxury, with a low price tag. Grand Tourer describes this the best, great observation.

  • @TheOneG36

    @TheOneG36

    4 жыл бұрын

    Audi RS3, am a joke to you?

  • @vroomgc

    @vroomgc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well except for the R is still much faster off the line to the GTI and has AWD but ya no reason

  • @senna2

    @senna2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Armodues Grimlock I think they were forced to detune it to comply with EU regulations. Not sure why that would have anything to do with NA though.

  • @YulianBrickPrime
    @YulianBrickPrime4 жыл бұрын

    Damn, i really like the car comparisons that you guys make. Y'all so good

  • @carolpost9292
    @carolpost92924 жыл бұрын

    I just got a Stnger GT a month ago. I've only gone 634 miles and am realing loving it so far. Love the speed, handling and looks. Just getting it broken in!

  • @daytonasayswhat9333

    @daytonasayswhat9333

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol, I drove mine more than that the first day that I bought it.

  • @hyedefinition1080

    @hyedefinition1080

    3 жыл бұрын

    No break-in needed. Kia just advises against LC the first 1000 miles

  • @daytonasayswhat9333

    @daytonasayswhat9333

    3 жыл бұрын

    hyedefinition1080 No new cars really require a proper break in, like the old days, any more.

  • @Matthew-rc1xt

    @Matthew-rc1xt

    Жыл бұрын

    @@daytonasayswhat9333 wow you’re so cool

  • @chopperpump7446
    @chopperpump74464 жыл бұрын

    These are the exact 2 cars I looked at last January when I wanted/needed to change my car. Finally got the Stinger GT Limited with the red interior. Just awesome! The single downside on this car is the rear visibility....which is close to non existent. And in the winter season, the rear camera gets filled with crap and calcium (I’m in Quebec) so needs to be cleaned pretty much everyday, if I want to use it. My wife’s golf cam is hidden under the logo....always clean. Awesome review/ comparison. Keep up the good (really good!) work. Cheers!

  • @vroomgc

    @vroomgc

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ya , funny they didn't mention the visibility part of the 2 cars its actually an important aspect.

  • @khuo0219

    @khuo0219

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love the camera behind logo design, so cool. One time I was pulling out of a parking lot and one lady told me that there may be something wrong with my car since the logo was flipped up. I kindly told her that is was the back up camera. I have the sorento I can tell you that the rear cam does badly even in the rain, let alone snow and salt.

  • @geraldf4193

    @geraldf4193

    3 жыл бұрын

    move then lol

  • @princeD1100

    @princeD1100

    6 ай бұрын

    Do you still have the Stinger GT? If so, what are your experiences so far?

  • @lilrobbie2k
    @lilrobbie2k4 жыл бұрын

    I love the Kia Stinger in that Ghost Gray paint color

  • @daddycool3599
    @daddycool35994 жыл бұрын

    I own a 2019 Golf R and I’m totally in love with this car. So Fast and efficient. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 The golf R has 300HP and 400NM here 😉

  • @IReahpZz

    @IReahpZz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stinger I'd a bit underrated. Really makes about 400 bhp

  • @chucky8894

    @chucky8894

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bafy Do the North American specs have less hp? Or is the difference just because of the way we calculate the hp?

  • @syd_jzx100

    @syd_jzx100

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@IReahpZz Yeah Kia and Hyundai are known to lower their power and 0-60 times. I own an i30N and advertised power is 271bhp, I get like 285bhp. Also 0-60 as a result is under 6secs, not 6.1secs.

  • @neovenom9833

    @neovenom9833

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@syd_jzx100 not really it also matters what you put in the tank. I Use high octane RON98 in my car. most cars are rated on pump gas RON 95

  • @devn3813

    @devn3813

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wedow the 3.3 makes around 370 hp and 420 torque in the real world.

  • @langleyfilmltd
    @langleyfilmltd4 жыл бұрын

    Own a stinger. Love it.

  • @zykarionng6633

    @zykarionng6633

    3 жыл бұрын

    hows the reliability?

  • @fatih4159

    @fatih4159

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zykarionng6633 much much better than golf germans sell just name they make shitty car this one or m4 vs mustang corvette charger camaro m4 is 2.5 time expensive

  • @maxdavidson5050
    @maxdavidson50504 жыл бұрын

    I think the two of your together are so much better than just the one of you. You guys have great energy. It’s nice seeing friends discuss cars and not have the typical “my friend is an idiot and wrong” top gear relationship that most channels have. I loved when he said “Yuri pronounces Toyota wrong, we are working on it”. It’s funny

  • @HotSauceForTheSoul
    @HotSauceForTheSoul4 жыл бұрын

    I really missed you guys doing these 2 car comparisons. You've really nailed the editing as well. Great work as usual!

  • @seanhollett8422
    @seanhollett84224 жыл бұрын

    love that you guys are talking Canadian specs, prices and conditions!

  • @matthewdavid671
    @matthewdavid6714 жыл бұрын

    Just the 2 cars I was trying to decide on. Great review as always

  • @thinc2272
    @thinc22724 жыл бұрын

    The conversation you have while in different cars is just outstanding - well done guys. Love this format.

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph89584 жыл бұрын

    The Stinger is when you want a gran tourer The Golf R when you want a hot hatch

  • @tigovdbij7183

    @tigovdbij7183

    4 жыл бұрын

    You are right, IT would be better if they compared the stinger against the Audi S5

  • @tigovdbij7183

    @tigovdbij7183

    4 жыл бұрын

    They Both have a V6, all wheel drive and the same amount of horsepower.

  • @seabasst-coffee709

    @seabasst-coffee709

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep. You don't slide cars anyway so comparison is a little irrelevant at limits and beyond.

  • @seabasst-coffee709

    @seabasst-coffee709

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Stinger doesn't corner faster. No chance.

  • @ghuldorgrey

    @ghuldorgrey

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Golf R is when you want a car no one will ever look at. There are so many Golfs its just fucking boring to see one

  • @FordRanger-ie5mu
    @FordRanger-ie5mu4 жыл бұрын

    great video. cool to see you guys speak seamlessly and transition from car to car.

  • @N2theIzzle
    @N2theIzzle4 жыл бұрын

    Thoroughly entertained by your review. Keep up the good work!

  • @JohnSmith-nz4bn
    @JohnSmith-nz4bn4 жыл бұрын

    So weird as an Australian watching this on a Friday morning. Normally it's late Friday evening or Saturday morning. Thank you for the hospitality USA! Yes I know you guys are Canadian.

  • @forrestsautoreviewsofficial
    @forrestsautoreviewsofficial4 жыл бұрын

    I looove the Stinger GT but that Golf R looks incredible 😍

  • @anes1240

    @anes1240

    9 ай бұрын

    4 years ago you weren't famous now look at you the most successful viewed car journaliste in 2023

  • @axelamps1279

    @axelamps1279

    7 ай бұрын

    Looks like any other modern soulless hatchback to me!

  • @MrFredGross
    @MrFredGross2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome review !! Thank you guys

  • @serkanaltay5584
    @serkanaltay5584 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Rarely are such videos this enjoyable. Two very likeable personalities

  • @PUMBAANA
    @PUMBAANA4 жыл бұрын

    i bought the 2020 KIA Stinger less than a week ago. Red on Red and I love it. Might need a custom exhausts but other than that its perfect.

  • @cavlizzy

    @cavlizzy

    4 жыл бұрын

    @PUMBAANA the regular GT? or GTS, GT1 or GT2? I always get Red... but wondered how the leather in Red would match the red paint? So I guess it looks good!

  • @AronBagel
    @AronBagel4 жыл бұрын

    20 minutes of why you want a Kia Stinger GT. I don't mind it one bit.

  • @Ccsh12

    @Ccsh12

    4 жыл бұрын

    AronBagel golf r is a 4 cylinder that beats a lot of v6 why would you want a fake exhaust

  • @Ccsh12

    @Ccsh12

    4 жыл бұрын

    Henrik K I will but not the new one I’m good with my gti autobahn for now

  • @SlowBoiGang

    @SlowBoiGang

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Henrik K there actually is. A Kawasaki ninja 636 will beat the Kawasaki 650.

  • @drdoomgoat38

    @drdoomgoat38

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ccsh12 mo' Powah babeh!!!

  • @micktek
    @micktek4 жыл бұрын

    2:20 "But once you reach 100, they're pretty much the same speed anyway".......... Ummm, no kidding. Because they're both doing 100 ?!?!

  • @chillinwithchris1536

    @chillinwithchris1536

    4 жыл бұрын

    Michael Schimkat 100 kmph... or like 62 mph.

  • @lucwal67

    @lucwal67

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chillinwithchris1536 The guy as the logo of the German Soccer team as a profile pic, I think he know what KM/H are

  • @NotStellarNoja

    @NotStellarNoja

    4 жыл бұрын

    Then five seconds later "Even if you you're in the right gear and you punch it the Stinger is basically always going to win"

  • @Steve-mk9le

    @Steve-mk9le

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think he is saying that they go from 0-100 at pretty much the same measure of time (~4.6 seconds). AKA - The Golf R and the Stinger GT have similar acceleration.

  • @karllhungus2681

    @karllhungus2681

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chillinwithchris1536 mph is nonsense

  • @kenr8823
    @kenr88234 жыл бұрын

    I test drove the Stinger and with my back problems, sitting that low in the car would have been an issue some days. So, I ended up with the Golf R. Love driving it every day!! Getting 30+ mpg on the highway is just a plus!

  • @FuelEconomyTest
    @FuelEconomyTest4 жыл бұрын

    I'd go for the Stinger, because with the money I'll be paying, I don't want people confusing it for a Golf.

  • @implodingbaby

    @implodingbaby

    4 жыл бұрын

    OOF

  • @AvocadoAtrocity

    @AvocadoAtrocity

    4 жыл бұрын

    Any VW is better than the disposable camera of the car world (Kia trash).

  • @ninja12380

    @ninja12380

    4 жыл бұрын

    But you'd pay 40 grand for a kia?

  • @farhana3164

    @farhana3164

    4 жыл бұрын

    the replies lol, saltier than a Pirate's Hard tack

  • @implodingbaby

    @implodingbaby

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ninja12380 you shouldn't dont care about the badge

  • @sleepininicetrell
    @sleepininicetrell4 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO!! I was legit just considering slightly older models of both of these!! If money isn’t the issue I’m probably getting the stinger but if my budget ends up being slightly tighter, I can go back a little further with the GOLF R. Great job guys!!

  • @eeshunique

    @eeshunique

    4 жыл бұрын

    you can get any brand new GT trim way under sticker price. There are two stinger GT2 with -8k marked off of sticker already in a couple dealerships local to me. It just take some searching and negotiation. Truth is, as much of a good car it is, its struggling to sell, especially the GT trim. I am just waiting for my lease to run out in a couple of months so I can purchase one!

  • @raupenimmersatt6906

    @raupenimmersatt6906

    4 жыл бұрын

    With the Golf R you wont have any warranty after 1/2 years. On the other hand you can buy an 3 year old Stinger and have 4 Trouble free years. Take that into consideration.

  • @sleepininicetrell

    @sleepininicetrell

    4 жыл бұрын

    Artikel 13 Bot Thanks, one of my main points of consideration too

  • @jones780
    @jones7804 жыл бұрын

    Jakub continues to make me feel good about my 2013 base model manual gti purchase with comments like, “I have more fun in a manual gti than a manual r.” Bought it with 22 miles on it and still love driving it 80K miles later.

  • @wajdibeiruthy3317
    @wajdibeiruthy33174 жыл бұрын

    Your videos give off such a good vibe !

  • @ssflipallday
    @ssflipallday4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve always been a Golf R head...but that Stinger 🧐 I didn’t realize all the amenities it had with the same practicality. Take my money (or the lack thereof)

  • @gsjourney3054

    @gsjourney3054

    4 жыл бұрын

    Why do so many people like the golf I’m jw it’s legit 50k for a hatch with less then 300hp with crappy vw reliability

  • @ssflipallday

    @ssflipallday

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like it for understated styling with dual clutch option and adaptive dampers which the direct competitors don’t offer. Don’t always need a manual or harsh suspension imo. But they’re way too expensive for sure

  • @IReahpZz

    @IReahpZz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Got my gt2 for 44k usd out the door in this color.

  • @kevinandrew_

    @kevinandrew_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@gsjourney3054 Because compared to it's other direct awd competitors (Focus RS, WRX STI), it's reliability is pretty much on par, but it offers something a little different than those with much better refinement and a more comfortable, almost luxury interior (especially relative to the other two). I also appreciate the more understated styling. Sure, the average Subaru is more reliable than the average VW, but the STI isn't exactly a regular subaru. Plus they haven't always been 50k until recently with the last update. To be fair though, if I was forced into an automatic, I'd take the stinger all day long, no question. However, I'm a manual guy, so I went with a used golf R. 100k on the odometer and no issues at all so far.

  • @ristekostadinov2820

    @ristekostadinov2820

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevinandrew_ that guy was tripping with the statement crappy vw reliability, in europe golf is the most stollen vehicle, especialy mark4 with 1.9 diesel.

  • @ahmedmamelli8202
    @ahmedmamelli82024 жыл бұрын

    I love your content guys. Your videos give off a good vibe for some reason. Maybe cause you're both jolly😅

  • @marmaladebrah
    @marmaladebrah2 жыл бұрын

    super thorough, thanks guys!

  • @danielf5913
    @danielf59134 жыл бұрын

    You guys hit the nail on the head with this one. I've cross shopping these 2 vehicles for months.

  • @warrenberes4117

    @warrenberes4117

    4 жыл бұрын

    TTRS give a try

  • @danielf5913

    @danielf5913

    4 жыл бұрын

    Warren Beres I’ve considered the TT RS but I need that 4 door practicality. I wish they sold the RS3 hatch in North American, it would be perfect!

  • @talalabdulaziz316
    @talalabdulaziz3164 жыл бұрын

    The KIA Stinger doesn't use ZF transmissions , they use Hyundai's home made transmissions, Hyundai is.one of the few who makes their own transmissions.

  • @syd_jzx100

    @syd_jzx100

    4 жыл бұрын

    And are surprisingly good!

  • @kryptoman_gaksital

    @kryptoman_gaksital

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, Powertech I believe.

  • @nealewalter

    @nealewalter

    4 жыл бұрын

    And my transmission in my 2012 Hyundai Genesis is being replaced (under 10 year 100,00 mile warranty)

  • @IvanBosnjak89
    @IvanBosnjak894 жыл бұрын

    Golf R power numbers are slightly down to meet the new EURO standards for emissions. Nothing they could do about it.

  • @iDrive4fun93

    @iDrive4fun93

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, easy and not too expensive to get a considerable horsepower bump

  • @markus8484

    @markus8484

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ivo Bosnjak that´s may be right for the european Version of the Golf R but this is the north american Version and those cars do not have to meet the Euro Emission Standars. Just have a look to the new BMW M340i they already tested. The Euro Version has slighty less Horsepower due to the Particle Filter. The US/Can Version does not have such a filter.

  • @weilandcock

    @weilandcock

    4 жыл бұрын

    Markus Z It’s the exact same engine, Volkswagen just shifted from metric horsepower to mechanical horsepower across the lineup. The 1.8 TSI also went from 170 to 167 rated.

  • @Adrian-rn1ym

    @Adrian-rn1ym

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ape stage 2. Problems fixed

  • @joey69d

    @joey69d

    4 жыл бұрын

    They can't just cheat anymore?

  • @hugdeath929
    @hugdeath9294 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing this!! These r probably the top 2 on my shopping list for next year. I’m pretty much in agreement on everything you both said about the 2 cars. Well done 🍻

  • @lukenukem1207
    @lukenukem12074 жыл бұрын

    Ah perfect comparison! So pumped to watch

  • @pellebrannvall6521
    @pellebrannvall65214 жыл бұрын

    The comparison at 2:08 is brilliant! Great idea!

  • @docswampo8567
    @docswampo85674 жыл бұрын

    My Stinger is Fantastic. 2019 White Pearl GT.. Custom mode everything in sport but AWD in comfort. Keeps you straight in the rain.

  • @Paranormal_Code

    @Paranormal_Code

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's my set up for bad weather and street launching on roads (California roads aren't smooth)

  • @Mattprimetime86
    @Mattprimetime862 жыл бұрын

    Okay wow, you guys are great. You have a new fan.

  • @bjmarchives
    @bjmarchives4 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison review.

  • @rickybobby890
    @rickybobby8904 жыл бұрын

    I'm only 42 seconds into this comparison. So can't wait to see the rest, Very compelling video.Let's go

  • @GamingRobot13
    @GamingRobot134 жыл бұрын

    Damn for the same cost you get so much more with the Kia

  • @wagrj5738

    @wagrj5738

    3 жыл бұрын

    But you make more friends driving the same car with you if you drive the golf r

  • @broncobri5
    @broncobri54 жыл бұрын

    LOVE that stinger color combination

  • @fat4ll
    @fat4ll4 жыл бұрын

    Nice review :)

  • @maxlombardo2702
    @maxlombardo27024 жыл бұрын

    I’d definitely take the stinger after driving them both. Also I’m far too excited for the Supra review undoubtedly coming.

  • @theweeknd2725

    @theweeknd2725

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stinger gt is such a cool looking and fun ride for the price! I would go for it too!

  • @douglasfroom1449

    @douglasfroom1449

    4 жыл бұрын

    Watch the KZread video of the Golf R spanking the Supra in a quarter mile drag.

  • @susanl1148
    @susanl11484 жыл бұрын

    I live in Los Angeles and see a lot of great cars. Saw a Stinger (finally) on the 10...hot!

  • @kilovwdude6457
    @kilovwdude64574 жыл бұрын

    Now this is the kind of content I subbed for golf r vs everything

  • @Tonseren
    @Tonseren4 жыл бұрын

    Amazing 360 cameras and with very little shake! Thanks.

  • @LukeSA1NT
    @LukeSA1NT4 жыл бұрын

    Love the stinger. Any way you can review the 2020 forte gt top model

  • @eLKaymusic
    @eLKaymusic4 жыл бұрын

    It's not a ZF auto. Hyundai Kia developed this one themselves.

  • @themagicalaries

    @themagicalaries

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was really trying to look this up because I didn't think ZF made it. I have a G80 Sport and they have the same power train.

  • @CitarNosis317

    @CitarNosis317

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd still trust that transmission over the Golf's. I don't hate on Golf or VW - but neither is famous for reliability. Modern models, I mean. So you know, if I'd be a Golf kind of person, I'd definitely go manual. Just one less thing to have trouble with.

  • @eddiesander403

    @eddiesander403

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CitarNosis317 Except the GTI manuals are having a stalling issue in the USA. Even after just a few miles.

  • @xavier0237

    @xavier0237

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@themagicalaries The Stinger is tuned differently than the G80, so it feels different with spirited driving.

  • @scorpiojuan1966
    @scorpiojuan19664 жыл бұрын

    Great review again...seems you both favor different vehicle, I say race them on track. I love my G70 but still like watching your reviews.

  • @LBREEZY009
    @LBREEZY0094 жыл бұрын

    CAR COMPARE SESSION IS EPIC.

  • @johnjackson12
    @johnjackson124 жыл бұрын

    Kia for me. Lovely V6 engine with torque everywhere. Looks better imo aswell

  • @supercooled

    @supercooled

    4 жыл бұрын

    Just as practical if not more so. It’s just so much bigger than a hatchback. Almost half a car bigger.

  • @adrianhernandez1246
    @adrianhernandez12464 жыл бұрын

    Stinger! I purchased mine about a month ago! That thing rips

  • @hauseofraf
    @hauseofraf4 жыл бұрын

    So true about your explanation regarding the brands.

  • @saumanshoaib3724
    @saumanshoaib37244 жыл бұрын

    Yuri: "Oh not cooled, eh?" hahah

  • @dorkultra
    @dorkultra4 жыл бұрын

    btw with an OBDeleven module, you can adjust the golf R's lane keep assist to keep you on rails. huge improvement, lets you do a bunch of other tweaks as well. however it won't activate until 41mph and requires a mail in camera tweak for lower speeds than that

  • @WrongFromWright
    @WrongFromWright4 жыл бұрын

    Stinger for me. Dont know about longevity, but the interior quality is very nice, and it drives great.

  • @bbokdoong

    @bbokdoong

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kia will last longer than any German car....

  • @adriankschan94

    @adriankschan94

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go watch carwow’s stinger review, interior quality is actually not good, you can move the center console :/

  • @matty1053

    @matty1053

    4 жыл бұрын

    Best warranty in the business!! Me and my co-worker have Stingers. He has over 30k miles on his... he got it last year. (he took it on 4 trips to Maine, Florida, Mississippi, and Montanna from Michigan). He loves it and he has not had any issues with it at all. I only have just broken in mine... 6k miles. MPG is pretty damn good too. I average 24.8mpg. And that is with once in a while flooring it.

  • @QwertySkill

    @QwertySkill

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@adriankschan94 that was the easliest 2018 versions. they fixed this mid way through 2018. the build quality is solid now

  • @a0r0a7

    @a0r0a7

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@adriankschan94 nonsense. Matt really wobbles that console with force. Kia warranty far better than VW. Plastics in the Golf are really not great, lower down and if its anything like the two VW Passats I had as company cars dashboard rattles will irritate. Clutch failures, wiring loom issues, turbo swap, electric brake issues all on the VWs I had. All other makes I had as company cars sailed past 130,000 miles on the same clutch. So disagree through experience.

  • @zedgar9787
    @zedgar97874 жыл бұрын

    I love it when you guys drive the golf R

  • @TheSeekerNFT
    @TheSeekerNFT4 жыл бұрын

    What camera and boom setup do you guys use? Looks like the boom gets edited out? (hood/trunk view)

  • @netcruzer
    @netcruzer4 жыл бұрын

    I 100% cross shopped these.. I chose Golf R. No regrets!

  • @V1ralB1ack

    @V1ralB1ack

    4 жыл бұрын

    I don't blame you. I get the reason to buy a golf r... But why buy a stinger over a Mustang gt or dodge charger? I get its great buuuuut... A charger and Mustang will still be just as functional... The golf r is something that over performs yet is great day to day and more.

  • @ZS-xi4xk

    @ZS-xi4xk

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@V1ralB1ack Neither of them would be as functional. Definitely not a Mustang, which is a coupe. And the Charger has a trunk which has a lot less cargo capacity than the hatch on the Stinger. Especially with the seats folded down. Also the Stinger is a lot more of a comfortable and premium daily driver than either of the other two.

  • @ghuldorgrey

    @ghuldorgrey

    4 жыл бұрын

    You chose the most boring car ever, congrats! There are so many Golfs on the road its not even funny

  • @Hacker07Gaming

    @Hacker07Gaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@V1ralB1ack chargers are shit

  • @V1ralB1ack

    @V1ralB1ack

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ZS-xi4xk I mentioned the charger and mustang because the stinger is between being fast and a family car. If you're buying the stinger for the speed then just get a mustang but if you want it to also carry 4 people get the charger but you can't honestly tell me it's more comfortable then the charger. It LOOKS more comfy but sit in it and it's not more comfy than both. I've fit a 55in tv in a civic and I can easily do it in a mustang. How much trunk space do you need? And if you're talking a car that is all you really need it's the golf r. The stinger is unnecessary. Competitive and new but unnecessary.

  • @TheRazosvg
    @TheRazosvg4 жыл бұрын

    “Gallons of freedom”!!! This is now my life motto!

  • @pattyb7848
    @pattyb78484 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been watching you guys from the initial launch of the stinger in the USA. In August bought the GT2 and it has exceeded all my expectations. It’s a winner!!! Where can I buy a Straight Pipes T-shirt? PS: We now drink Tim Hortons coffee at home. 😁 Keep on making great videos.

  • @jehogue7907
    @jehogue79074 жыл бұрын

    Just subscribed, was watching for a while without subscribing idk why

  • @solid1378
    @solid13784 жыл бұрын

    Guys, do an Arteon comparison. Great review...thanks!

  • @mbrunnme

    @mbrunnme

    4 жыл бұрын

    There was an Arteon in this review, actually, it was just too slow to be in the frame.

  • @daveando
    @daveando4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got a UK 7.5R. You mention about the DSG upshifting when you don’t want it to, can’t you put the box in manual mode?

  • @matthewpiering9822

    @matthewpiering9822

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even in manual mode, it will shift for you at redline. You need a DSG tune if you don't want it to do that. Euro spec might be different. Not sure.

  • @ericyang3212

    @ericyang3212

    4 жыл бұрын

    David Anderson it won’t let you bang redline even in “manual” mode

  • @TheHoth1
    @TheHoth14 жыл бұрын

    How did you guys get some of those aero shots? In front of the stinger and behind of the golf R? Some sort of wide angle cameras?

  • @andrewmastrullo95
    @andrewmastrullo952 жыл бұрын

    WHAT A BLISS VIDEO BOYS, LOVED IT 👌

  • @gmb12philly88
    @gmb12philly884 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a 3-6 year review to see which car held up better. And which one was less expensive to maintain. Not just with these two cars but others as well

  • @Andregeorgetownkia

    @Andregeorgetownkia

    9 ай бұрын

    Welp 3 years later and Kia stinger is discontinued 😂

  • @e46Kyle

    @e46Kyle

    8 ай бұрын

    @@AndregeorgetownkiaIt was too good for this world. 😢

  • @Old_Man_Brian

    @Old_Man_Brian

    6 ай бұрын

    Over 4 years with a Stinger. We still love it.

  • @HARaZAC
    @HARaZAC4 жыл бұрын

    One thing I'm surprised you guys don't mention often is vehicle weight

  • @colinmaynard2879
    @colinmaynard28794 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but I love the commentary: "once you reach 100 you're at pretty much the same speed!" 🤣

  • @rv9990
    @rv99904 жыл бұрын

    Dude, that orange drifting KIA looked so nice!

  • @dustincarter8129
    @dustincarter81294 жыл бұрын

    Moving from an Audi to a Stinger here shortly. It’s such a well rounded car overall.

  • @NeXuS858
    @NeXuS8584 жыл бұрын

    TCU Tune eliminates the auto upshift on the Golf R :)

  • @hamzabaris7411
    @hamzabaris74114 жыл бұрын

    Guys please review the VW Arteon. It’s been out for a while now. Also, keep up the good work. You guys are awesome.

  • @andreaiacolina
    @andreaiacolina4 жыл бұрын

    This Stinger looks so cool!

  • @timothygermann780
    @timothygermann7804 жыл бұрын

    In case anyone is concerned with fuel economy; From fueleconomy.gov: Golf R MPG: 23city/30 highway 26 MPG combined. Kia Stinger GT MPG: 17city /25 highway Combined 20MPG mpg. 6 mpg real world economy in my mind is a big difference. that is $5,000 savings over 10 year ownership

  • @timothygermann780

    @timothygermann780

    4 жыл бұрын

    @jamiecivic I have bought and owned all my automobiles new and kept them for 10 -15 years. Makes MUCH better financial sense. (If you maintain them... and don't care about having a new car every few years.)

  • @drakkarc558

    @drakkarc558

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you’re concern for the mpg, these vehicles are not for you.

  • @Renzo.Fortini

    @Renzo.Fortini

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kary facts

  • @harmandalsingh2359

    @harmandalsingh2359

    4 жыл бұрын

    But you can carry more people in stinger comfortably

  • @timothygermann780

    @timothygermann780

    4 жыл бұрын

    @jamiecivic As I said, I always keep my cars 10 years + either way assuming you trade it in, if you look for a more efficient car next time the point is the same. 6mpg over 10 years is 5 grand in your pocket.

  • @robertk8524
    @robertk85244 жыл бұрын

    I got a 2018 Stinger, and it's great. So I prefer the Stinger... haha. Plus I did a badge swap to the South Korean original badges... makes it look even better.

  • @jamilor

    @jamilor

    4 жыл бұрын

    What do the original badges look like if you don’t mind me asking?

  • @bimaputra9175

    @bimaputra9175

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jamilor Stylized "K" Letter

  • @SirThomasHarber
    @SirThomasHarber4 жыл бұрын

    I have the Stinger and love it!

  • @johnwjeromejr
    @johnwjeromejr3 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2016 Golf R manual. In stock form, it didn't feel as fast as the numbers indicated. Fortunately a ready solution was available at the dealer where I got the car. Two weeks after taking delivery, I returned to the dealer's tuner shop and, an hour later, I drove away with 62 APR Stage 1 horsepower magically added. The difference was almost startling! Two years later, I returned for an APR Stage 2, supporting mods, and an upgraded clutch. The car is now crazy fast, but still very easy to drive as a daily. There is a Stage 3 available but any more HP would be too much (if there is such a thing). I don't think that kind of aftermarket support is available for the Stinger but I could be wrong.

  • @Steve-qr2lm
    @Steve-qr2lm4 жыл бұрын

    I love my Golf R, the only thing that lets it down is actually the look, it just doesn't look sporty or mean, but everything else makes up for it!

  • @AnthonyCorsi11

    @AnthonyCorsi11

    3 жыл бұрын

    100% agree, since the golf itself is so common most people don’t notice that extra difference with the R compared to a GTI in terms of looks so it blends in too much. That’s why I’ve always said that if you want a Golf R for its driving pleasure and want to stand out, get an Audi S3.

  • @WobblePizza
    @WobblePizza4 жыл бұрын

    Golf R by a long shot. Understated styling, smaller, manual, comes in several greens.

  • @IvanBosnjak89

    @IvanBosnjak89

    4 жыл бұрын

    Love the smaller comment. It makes a huge difference for nimbleness and getting around town.

  • @carzzi
    @carzzi4 жыл бұрын

    What kind of cameras/ jigs are you using for the overhead action shots? It almost looked like it was some kind of camera-glider pulled by a cable firmly attached to the car's body. Looked great.

  • @jrmmrmm
    @jrmmrmm4 жыл бұрын

    Have a Stinger Gt 2 and love it !! It's my modern day Gran National so I would pick it all day long. Had a VW before and not so good reliability.

  • @MuddyTubMedia
    @MuddyTubMedia4 жыл бұрын

    I own a Stinger GT and I absolutely love it. I get looks, thumbs up, and compliments every day. Yesterday, a guy in a 911 Turbo gave me a thumbs up. Im in a Kia and the guy in the Porsche likes my car. That’s awesome! Mine is badge swapped so people always ask what it is. I love it haha. It’s a great car to own.

  • @faisaltariq2575

    @faisaltariq2575

    3 жыл бұрын

    Badge swapped? What do you mean?

  • @MuddyTubMedia

    @MuddyTubMedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@faisaltariq2575 has the “E” badge that the Korean Stingers get on the front. And I have the Stinger script badge on the back. No Kia badges.

  • @faisaltariq2575

    @faisaltariq2575

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MuddyTubMedia oh okay!

  • @poooooow
    @poooooow4 жыл бұрын

    I've driven the Stinger a few weeks ago. It was almost like an Audi (since a Audi & BMW Guy worked together on this). The engine felt very throttled to me. Like there where about at least 100 HP waiting to be woken up some day.

  • @bbrescia8697

    @bbrescia8697

    4 жыл бұрын

    poooooow Kia made 420 hp version out of an old press car with a tune and some minor part swaps (intakes etc). So yes you are right this engine has room to grow

  • @mouthyfardy9

    @mouthyfardy9

    4 жыл бұрын

    There's actually a video showcasing how with a few upgrades, the stinger can unlock a good amount of power just from a few bolt ons. So you're not wrong

  • @Lunaticked

    @Lunaticked

    4 жыл бұрын

    You’re right, just a tune and intake is getting people 100-125 extra hp to the wheels

  • @rockN
    @rockN4 жыл бұрын

    ok, i finally subscribed

  • @wuandy1
    @wuandy14 жыл бұрын

    hi there, just wondering which trails do you guys take in toronto? looks like somewhere in mississauga.

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