2020 Kia Stinger GT vs Volkswagen Arteon R-Line // $50,000 Face Off

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James and Thomas compare the 2020 Stinger GT 20th Anniversary with the Volkswagen Arteon. Both cars are brand flagships, are liftback sedans, automatics, and incredibly good looking. The boys explore how fun they are, and what they're like to live with.
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  • @Reidpants747
    @Reidpants7474 жыл бұрын

    "This car poops in a bag and leaves it at the door of BMW 3-series owners." - That is unbridled Shakespearian poetry if I've ever heard it.

  • @gabbag777

    @gabbag777

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your intellectualism and word choice originality baffles me, sir.

  • @mainstay3282

    @mainstay3282

    4 жыл бұрын

    Love BMW but I kinda agree...

  • @caseybrannon4975

    @caseybrannon4975

    4 жыл бұрын

    He called the shit poop!

  • @drekt2698

    @drekt2698

    4 жыл бұрын

    Literally traded in my 335i for a Stinger GT1 haha

  • @dhirendrasinhrana202

    @dhirendrasinhrana202

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hahahah

  • @GY9944
    @GY99444 жыл бұрын

    Stinger: Grey with red interior Arteon: Red with grey interior This wasn't on purpose was it ?

  • @senoow4215

    @senoow4215

    4 жыл бұрын

    it's pretty standard on both cars but fun when u point it out

  • @turbo1997hsm

    @turbo1997hsm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Grey with red >>>

  • @KronborgGaming

    @KronborgGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    Like nr. 666 LMAO

  • @Teme44

    @Teme44

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ahhahahah

  • @MisterLovaLova

    @MisterLovaLova

    3 жыл бұрын

    EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED

  • @Ace792
    @Ace7923 жыл бұрын

    In true VW fashion, it even has a check engine light on! Part of the experience

  • @lukazupie7220

    @lukazupie7220

    3 жыл бұрын

    I own mine for 6 years and everything is perfect, not even a single bulb changed :)

  • @frazierl7898

    @frazierl7898

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yourvault1612 either lucky 1%, or he/she is in the European market where they're more reliable because they're built with their reliable local parts as opposed to American parts.

  • @SeanWithaFada

    @SeanWithaFada

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@frazierl7898 oh i wondered what the deal was with Americans saying Volkswagens are unreliable, I’m from Ireland and there’s loads of Volkswagens on the roads here, and no one talks about them being unreliable.

  • @patrickmartin3322

    @patrickmartin3322

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@SeanWithaFada German cars are notoriously expensive to repair in the US.

  • @Daurentius322

    @Daurentius322

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@patrickmartin3322 Yeah and US cars are equally expensive to repair in Europe, lol.

  • @evannussbaum1863
    @evannussbaum18633 жыл бұрын

    Stinger: selling horribly Volkswagen: we NEED to develop a competitor for this!!

  • @Happytylermovieproducction

    @Happytylermovieproducction

    3 жыл бұрын

    ECN That’s my name Kia Stinger selling horribly = their used car will be cheap even the GT2

  • @CorBor69

    @CorBor69

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s good for our broke fellas

  • @AlienCreatureThing

    @AlienCreatureThing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Happytylermovieproducction lowest I’ve seen a GT stinger that is worth buying is 29k

  • @bliglum

    @bliglum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't see it as a true competitor really. One is a purpose built, proper longitudinally mounted drivetrain sport sedan with a V6.. The other is a restyled Passat, with a run of the mill transverse FWD layout and a 4 banger....

  • @AlienCreatureThing

    @AlienCreatureThing

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Happytylermovieproducction definitely not, I’m planning to get this as my first car in a couple months

  • @davyk8193
    @davyk81934 жыл бұрын

    That KIA 'gotta tell everyone' bit at the beginning would be definitely relatable until they released Telluride. After the release of Stinger and Telluride, KIA is making a big splash in a very very saturated market. Also after seeing the K5 Optima renders, I'm speechless. I hope KIA fixes their dealerships and gives the post purchase experience to match the competition.

  • @Baker_88

    @Baker_88

    4 жыл бұрын

    Davy K The 21 Optima reminds me a lot of a Lincoln MKZ.

  • @Yondaily

    @Yondaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    SouthSide WhiteBhoy ewww very ugly you should get a Volvo

  • @lambodriver217

    @lambodriver217

    4 жыл бұрын

    yonda ila umm no

  • @TheeneF

    @TheeneF

    4 жыл бұрын

    Amen. Love my Stinger GT

  • @lukeiamurdad9055

    @lukeiamurdad9055

    4 жыл бұрын

    The dealers are so bad and the main thing holding KIA/Hyundai back.

  • @Robert-lu3rz
    @Robert-lu3rz3 жыл бұрын

    “VW, has a great history!” How did VW start? Oh, Hitler started them loool

  • @GrumpyGamer11

    @GrumpyGamer11

    2 жыл бұрын

    ...so?

  • @FumeAbuse

    @FumeAbuse

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s why he said a great history

  • @Fizzglg

    @Fizzglg

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FumeAbuse mhm

  • @poppygranny6741

    @poppygranny6741

    Ай бұрын

    A simple Google search will show he did not.

  • @kenhiett5266

    @kenhiett5266

    6 күн бұрын

    He did not just help create the company, he actually sketched the Beetle himself working with Porsche… But then the war came and then it was over… the VW plant was in the British sector and in the basement of the bomb damaged factory were enough parts to do a production run of cars. The British army supervised the manufacture and German workers who needed jobs and food to eat built the cars and they sold them, using the money to buy the next round of parts and lineally financed the restart of the company this way… and step by step built VW into the powerhouse it is today… So yes the beginnings were totally ties to Hitler and the Nazi Party but the rebirth has in very real terms been a German Success story with the initial help from and by the British Army, very entrepreneurial and old fashioned hard work… Spoiler alert… I am a JEW… My family lost dozens to the theft and murder of the Holocaust. My Grandfather refused to buy a German car after the war and for the balance of his life.. but Germany today is not Germany of yesterday, Germany has basically donated a fleet of Dolphin Submarines to the State of Israel which are Israels secure second strike capability that effectively guarantees the survival of the Jewish State… My Mother - who was nine years old when the Nazis marched into her home town owns a Volkswagen… I own a Mercedes… Germany today is NOT Germany of yesterday… and neither is Volkswagen. Its beginnings are not its present or its future… If MY Mother can own and drive a VW… well then everyone can get past how the company was founded and by whom… -Dan Abraham Erlich

  • @Zam1Fear
    @Zam1Fear3 жыл бұрын

    Typical person commenting on car vs car videos: "This car is better, I don't own it, I don't own the other car either, but the fact that I like one more than the other makes it better"

  • @potatochobit

    @potatochobit

    3 жыл бұрын

    after you are old enough to have paid off your first car you will develop something called "common sense." so when you see a 50,000$ volkswagen that is slower than a camry, it's Ok to raise an eyebrow.

  • @titusrome2863

    @titusrome2863

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@potatochobit Yes well said !!! I would rather purchase a CPO LEXUS BMW MB etc....

  • @BoopSnoot

    @BoopSnoot

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@potatochobit Its a stupid comparison, as the Arteon is more competition for a base Stinger. A base Arteon is $37K are compares favorably to a Kia Stinger GT-line Sun+Sound model for $36K.

  • @yourvault1612

    @yourvault1612

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@potatochobit it will fall apart before you have time to pay it off. In here in the US it’s very hard to find a good German car mechanic Plus those parts $$$$$ a lot of the times it’s cheaper to buy a new car and then fix something really stupid especially with BMWs and German cars in general. I’m German I lived in Germany most of my life but when I moved to US and bought an Audi I learned a lot

  • @JohnSmith-yf5bk

    @JohnSmith-yf5bk

    3 жыл бұрын

    You must not play any sports

  • @vincedemarchis7238
    @vincedemarchis72382 жыл бұрын

    Drove both.. bought the stinger.. instant classic.. love my decision and love driving it.. awesome car..

  • @teej5619

    @teej5619

    Жыл бұрын

    I did not drive the Kia stinger when I bought my Arteon but I have a friend who got a GT2 stinger and really likes it, I just got the VW because it was just a little bit more comfortable and the digital display both for the gauge cluster and infotainment are really intuitive and really nice and have aged well.

  • @doubleclutchonline5811
    @doubleclutchonline58114 жыл бұрын

    I'm shocked that there aren't more Stingers on the road. I do believe that $50k is a bit much for a Kia sedan. As nice as the car is, it's serious money with lots of competition. Kia really needs to overdeliver until the stigma of the badge goes away. And I just wouldn't want to have to deal with a Kia dealership. But there is no denying that this car is absolutely fantastic.

  • @mr.2cents.846

    @mr.2cents.846

    9 ай бұрын

    It is much. Should be under $40.000 would sell more too.

  • @Jayderzomb

    @Jayderzomb

    6 ай бұрын

    @@mr.2cents.846a bmw with the same equipment is like 80-90k

  • @i.d.6492

    @i.d.6492

    5 ай бұрын

    @@mr.2cents.846 I disagree. They would be losing money, they actually give you so much for a lot less than the competition. Arteon isn't is trash, overpriced and slow

  • @AnindaCBR1k
    @AnindaCBR1k4 жыл бұрын

    This channel is way underrated, I coy see you guys having your own show lol

  • @chocolatewheelchair

    @chocolatewheelchair

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chrome ™ this is their show.

  • @ParissaKhoury

    @ParissaKhoury

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chrome - how is it "underrated" ?? They have over 340k subscribers

  • @chocolatewheelchair

    @chocolatewheelchair

    4 жыл бұрын

    YoungMan4Quickie they are a huge hater haha

  • @ParissaKhoury

    @ParissaKhoury

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chocolatewheelchair lol

  • @georgecostanza2695

    @georgecostanza2695

    4 жыл бұрын

    Imho, James makes the show... Thomas can be replaced and I wouldn't miss him one bit.

  • @luc_de_hoogh
    @luc_de_hoogh4 жыл бұрын

    How does this channel only have 481k subs?! I like Doug DeMuro, but this content is sooo byond that. Hope you guy's get your own top-gear ;)

  • @Alexander5R

    @Alexander5R

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're almost double that now! Hurrah.

  • @alalal123421

    @alalal123421

    3 жыл бұрын

    their content is miles beyond dougs snarky reviews

  • @LetsDIYIt

    @LetsDIYIt

    3 жыл бұрын

    I cannot watch Doug anymore. He is just so annoying and provides very little actual car content and just stupid comments about cupholders and crap like that

  • @susiemartinez8983

    @susiemartinez8983

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel like they are the Top Gear of KZread. And yeah, I agree they deserve a bit more subs than Demuro. I get tired if hearing about his quirks.

  • @Shane-zx4ps

    @Shane-zx4ps

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@LetsDIYIt he didn’t know what a graphic equaliser was in a 1980,s car, so he’s not really a car guy

  • @Audi_Fanboy96
    @Audi_Fanboy963 жыл бұрын

    I work for Volks and when we first received the arteon and I popped the hood, I was let down.. with the amount of space the engine bay has, it could easily fit a 3.6l VR6. Now that would be true commitment to its predecessor

  • @leonsam84

    @leonsam84

    3 жыл бұрын

    but then ppl wouldnt buy the A5 or S5.. Right now its a hard sell why arteon when u could go A5.

  • @Audi_Fanboy96

    @Audi_Fanboy96

    3 жыл бұрын

    leonsam84 I agree with you 100%

  • @akiimo389

    @akiimo389

    Жыл бұрын

    @@leonsam84 Because the Arteon is bigger than the A5.

  • @BigMotorLover

    @BigMotorLover

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@leonsam84both the A5 and S5 are now turbo charged. A naturally aspirated R32 V6 would be fun to drive

  • @juraj_b
    @juraj_b4 жыл бұрын

    Had a Stinger GT in New Zealand for a week and I was very impressed with it. Great comfort, easy to drive, great adaptive cruise control, lane assist, android/apple thing and lot of space with high quality interior. One thing I didn't like was the economy (it just gulps petrol and requires 95) and noise above 115km/h which really surprised me. Otherwise a wonderful car to live with.

  • @jericlamb2676

    @jericlamb2676

    4 жыл бұрын

    You bite with the features of kia, the suspension and engine of kia was average

  • @user-ie8ud3qw9m

    @user-ie8ud3qw9m

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jericlamb2676 You drive a Kia Rio. How is the 3.3t average? It beats Mustang 5.0's and Dodge SRT-8s...

  • @jericlamb2676

    @jericlamb2676

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-ie8ud3qw9m n middle east hyundai/kia carried hollow blocks, ur crap stinger can do it too, lexus still king when it comes to reliability, the road here in ph many potholes cant survived the stinger and no spare parts avail

  • @ericd.4460

    @ericd.4460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jericlamb2676 There is nothing average about the Stinger GT2, and I own a Lexus GS 350.

  • @matteup1502

    @matteup1502

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jericlamb2676 An engine built by an ex BMW engineer, that things a beast!

  • @93remix
    @93remix4 жыл бұрын

    If the ARTEON came with the VW/AUDI based 2.5L 5CYL(the upper TRIM) that's in the RS3 or TT/RS... WOOOOO!! THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT

  • @magnusshawn4698

    @magnusshawn4698

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah TTRS drivetrain would be awesome for this chassis

  • @instantkamera

    @instantkamera

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. I love the 2.0 TSI (edited from 'EA888' for clarity - though I do believe that is what's in here), but I feel like it doesn't belong in a car of this size and price. Sure, it's a comfort/touring car, but it's begging for more hp/tq (well, potential buyers would be for sure). Edit: Also, I don't really get why they'd go with a detuned or smaller turbo on this flagship. This is a boat, it should at least have the Golf R numbers.

  • @elikinzie23

    @elikinzie23

    4 жыл бұрын

    Any car with that legendary engine would be a good buy

  • @khailils446

    @khailils446

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@elikinzie23throw it in a kia soul

  • @supravsg35

    @supravsg35

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think a 3.0T from audi a6 tuned to around 350 hp would be abetter fit, but if that was the case, y buy pay more for an audi...i see y they kept the 2.0T. I have driven the arteon and for me personally, it did feel underpowered

  • @jeremydupuis3344
    @jeremydupuis3344 Жыл бұрын

    Last year I had the same debate between Stinger and Arteon. I went for the Arteon, much smoother ride and the much larger backseat room. My kids appreciate the larger backseat room.

  • @ge-8135

    @ge-8135

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks like a great all rounder.

  • @tannerabell387
    @tannerabell3873 жыл бұрын

    Throttle House = New Top Gear. These guys need their own TV show. Netflix would do well to sign these guys

  • @DadIsntMad
    @DadIsntMad4 жыл бұрын

    Lol “Let’s talk about my stinger” “Why does that sound dirty”

  • @Yondaily

    @Yondaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    Because it’s a Kia who like Kia no one they are just debaged Audi which is sad get a Volvo you thank me later

  • @usernonameee

    @usernonameee

    4 жыл бұрын

    yonda ila but the truth is, you are not affordable for that stinger

  • @lloyd_3656

    @lloyd_3656

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Yondaily r/swoosh

  • @limelight777

    @limelight777

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@usernonameee lol that's the fact!

  • @supfoo9221

    @supfoo9221

    4 жыл бұрын

    Honestly Yes it's a Kia but man it's a beautiful car.

  • @dan-5678
    @dan-56784 жыл бұрын

    I've driven the Arteon when I had my car in the shop and oh my god that car is so nice, it quiets any bumps completely, you don't feel anything not even the vibration much less the bump itself, it's fun to drive much more than they say, and the safety features are really good, let's just say it stop me from slamming into someone's rear end

  • @youresomodest

    @youresomodest

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m driving one right now while my Passat is in the shop. I told the service tech that was a clever little plan to get me to just buy the Arteon. He laughed.

  • @c_s_q_0691
    @c_s_q_06913 жыл бұрын

    This is most definitely the best car review channel on YT... Hands down... keep up the great work!!!

  • @devambhagat3478
    @devambhagat34783 жыл бұрын

    I’ve literally watched this videos like 10+ times and still keep watching it. Love the Kia stinger and can’t wait to buy the 2021 stinger when I’m out of school

  • @tice1185

    @tice1185

    3 жыл бұрын

    you mean you cant wait for your parents to buy it for you lmao

  • @devambhagat3478

    @devambhagat3478

    3 жыл бұрын

    tice hahaha NO! By school I meant college

  • @juneauclassic

    @juneauclassic

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@devambhagat3478 buy a used 2020 model. its so much cheaper plus you get all the improvements from the first two years, and they arent making any major changes from the 2020 one. I have a 2020 gt2 and couldn't be happier.

  • @devambhagat3478

    @devambhagat3478

    3 жыл бұрын

    TRITON honestly I was thinking about a 2020 or a 21 bc I’m graduating in ‘23 so that car will have time to depreciate lol. But that’s nice to hear that u love your car👍🏽

  • @ericd.4460

    @ericd.4460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@juneauclassic I agree with both ideas, I like the 2021 better, but I would buy a 2020 also.

  • @basithph8958
    @basithph89584 жыл бұрын

    I would go for the Stinger GT It has a V6 and more fun to drive The Arteon is a good looking car tho

  • @chocolatewheelchair

    @chocolatewheelchair

    4 жыл бұрын

    BASITH PH vw is trash.

  • @aryans4519

    @aryans4519

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@chocolatewheelchair grow up

  • @chocolatewheelchair

    @chocolatewheelchair

    4 жыл бұрын

    2409_ AS lol they are criminal trash. Sorry.

  • @mr.zoonpolitikon1114

    @mr.zoonpolitikon1114

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its a V4 not a V6

  • @K-IA

    @K-IA

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mr.zoonpolitikon1114 the stinger is v6.

  • @clifftaylor3295
    @clifftaylor32954 жыл бұрын

    Amazing. You guys are incredible. Loved how you were obviously proud of the fact that you managed to get both cars to be the same price.

  • @shaphan8767
    @shaphan87674 жыл бұрын

    This was a really well made video. I watch a lot of car videos and this was one of my favorites in a while, really enjoyable with all the information you want. Well Done.

  • @MrAndrei4777
    @MrAndrei47773 жыл бұрын

    - "Born from the ashes of the old CC": is so to the point!!! Nice one, like for that

  • @hugdeath929
    @hugdeath9294 жыл бұрын

    Just the thumbnail made me smile. Haven’t watched it yet but they’re both on my list of possible replacements for next summer. Thanks guys.

  • @UnderWarranty
    @UnderWarranty4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for putting the MPG on the screen :)

  • @papn123

    @papn123

    4 жыл бұрын

    Corn Pop I thank them for using the right system in the first place *shots fired*

  • @AbdulrahmanHadid

    @AbdulrahmanHadid

    4 жыл бұрын

    it is probably US mpg not UK

  • @UnderWarranty

    @UnderWarranty

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@papn123 Ohhh no come back, Shots taken.

  • @James__Gregory
    @James__Gregory4 жыл бұрын

    "No...V10's for life, obviously..." LOL 🤣

  • @darylaarons6625
    @darylaarons66254 жыл бұрын

    I love the way you guys do car reviews and the production value is excellent. I even watch your reviews on cars I have no interest in because they are so good. I’m not sure how many people would actually cross-shop these two cars because, other than size and price, they have a different mission. I’m a fan of VAG products but lean towards their sportier offerings, but if I were forced to choose between these two, I’ll take the Stinger please.

  • @bernardosuss
    @bernardosuss4 жыл бұрын

    First video I've ever seen from you guys - great work!

  • @tirelomagane5467
    @tirelomagane54674 жыл бұрын

    Showing love from South Africa

  • @mbulelogumede6903

    @mbulelogumede6903

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am too

  • @varsity2845

    @varsity2845

    4 жыл бұрын

    You guys have internet?

  • @mbulelogumede6903

    @mbulelogumede6903

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@varsity2845 oh wow, hehe. Not only internet. The network I'm using (RAIN) soom will be offering 5G.

  • @varsity2845

    @varsity2845

    4 жыл бұрын

    mbulelo gumede haha that’s awesome. I’m messing with you lo

  • @chrwl007

    @chrwl007

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@varsity2845 No, we still use carrier pigeons and smoke signals

  • @inderjitsingh4230
    @inderjitsingh4230 Жыл бұрын

    These 2 are my favourite cars since they ve been into the market .. Thanks for the video guys

  • @tobyg1240
    @tobyg12404 жыл бұрын

    The intros are the best. You guys are awesome!

  • @snowboardr9393
    @snowboardr93934 жыл бұрын

    The fact that you guys mentioned IWC Schaffhausen & A. Lange & Söhne when you were talking about the clock made me love this channel that much more!

  • @MrSwaggernaut83

    @MrSwaggernaut83

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Dont curse at me" LOL

  • @Whitehaar

    @Whitehaar

    4 ай бұрын

    Thomas is a watch guy!

  • @culley65
    @culley654 жыл бұрын

    "I'm tired of having a V10 screaming behind me.." ooookay :P

  • @eleonik76

    @eleonik76

    4 жыл бұрын

    Canadians. They are born metrosexual. The manly chromosome is removed before birth.

  • @JS-hw8ve

    @JS-hw8ve

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was being sarcastic and immediately laughed and admitted "V10s for life". Did you miss that part? How?

  • @JS-hw8ve

    @JS-hw8ve

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eleonik76 He's English.... did that escape your notice? The sarcasm did.

  • @eleonik76

    @eleonik76

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@JS-hw8ve I am not good with sarcasm,my wife is.

  • @patricklee5571

    @patricklee5571

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@eleonik76 clearly not very good at critical thinking either

  • @brooklynbensonhurst9701
    @brooklynbensonhurst97014 жыл бұрын

    To avoid damaging your wheels and blowing out tires going over potholes, you must inflate the tires to 36 or 38 pounds. I find that these configurations handled the potholes much better and you almost never damage the tire or the wheels

  • @ericd.4460

    @ericd.4460

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or you can just make sure that you've installed common sense wheels and tires on your car, because I'm actually the one in charge, not the car manufacturer.

  • @Mr_Vishal...
    @Mr_Vishal...2 жыл бұрын

    The intro yaar... I have watched it 3 times before the review begins. ❣️😂😂 That was so lovely..

  • @ascott2168
    @ascott21684 жыл бұрын

    They both look great....but...Stinger all the way 👍🏽👌🏽

  • @Yondaily

    @Yondaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    What why?

  • @usernonameee

    @usernonameee

    4 жыл бұрын

    yonda ila better performance, better looking

  • @alexvalle750

    @alexvalle750

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Yondaily Why? lol really? have u seen the history on VW reliability?

  • @cameron4907
    @cameron49074 жыл бұрын

    I give credits to both brands for making such (in my opinion) good looking lift backs 🔥

  • @stefanobuccaci9294
    @stefanobuccaci92944 жыл бұрын

    You guys are producing great videos!

  • @golden2534gmailcom
    @golden2534gmailcom4 жыл бұрын

    love the way you guys start your videos very clever

  • @danielsheykhsofla5631
    @danielsheykhsofla56314 жыл бұрын

    one the most relevant comparisons that i watched in a looooooooooong time

  • @vladjohn9870
    @vladjohn98704 жыл бұрын

    Kia owner:"Sorry,I don't speak depreciation"

  • @ferrariwaffle5042

    @ferrariwaffle5042

    4 жыл бұрын

    Cliff Wilkins said no one ever

  • @samvhell9104

    @samvhell9104

    4 жыл бұрын

    Erm... The Stinger depreciates by the minute 😂

  • @fardimnazir666

    @fardimnazir666

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samvhell9104 Get a Toyota then.

  • @vegarosa69

    @vegarosa69

    3 жыл бұрын

    Every car brand depreciates. Have you checked how much MB cars depreciate?

  • @curtisjackson40

    @curtisjackson40

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@vegarosa69 who cares

  • @daynevickers1079
    @daynevickers10793 жыл бұрын

    "Kiarrhea".... you guys are genuinely hilarious! I seem to suffer with the same ailment, undiagnosed, but now I understand it.

  • @nillbill6639
    @nillbill6639 Жыл бұрын

    You guys rock! I love your honest reviews eh.

  • @thestexplorer8949
    @thestexplorer89494 жыл бұрын

    Here in America, as a Kia Motors U.S. salesman, the Stinger GT2 is what James is driving. The color is called Ceramic Silver. The wheels are styled different than the ones we have here, and we don’t offer 19 inch wheels. Everything else is about the same actually, but it’s very cool to see the differences among the two countries and what they offer.

  • @chasehammarstrom5844
    @chasehammarstrom58444 жыл бұрын

    I cannot express how much I love this channel! Keep up the good work guys!!!!

  • @Mdot401
    @Mdot4013 жыл бұрын

    You guys the best reviewers ever! So funny but yet soo good at informing us , keep up the good work guy! 😂 amazing content 👍🏽

  • @LadybirdDrivingSchool
    @LadybirdDrivingSchool4 жыл бұрын

    Great review guys 👍

  • @AlainHubert
    @AlainHubert4 жыл бұрын

    Sooo, that's what I'm suffering from, Kiarrhea... 🤣 But my Stinger still puts a smile on my face every single time I drive it. 😎 EDIT: at the very end of the video, Thomas says that the hatchback in the Stinger didn't work (@12:55). It didn't, simply because Thomas pulled up on it instead of letting it go up by itself. And the safety feature stops the electric motors as soon as something hits, or forces the hatch up or down. Same thing in the Arteon (@13:33).

  • @joeljeffrey9139
    @joeljeffrey91394 жыл бұрын

    God that intro is tooo true about current Kia owners. Being badge snobs about not being a badge snob????

  • @Mgoblagulkablong

    @Mgoblagulkablong

    4 жыл бұрын

    Still much better than VW owners "If you don't love my car, you must be a jealous loser!"

  • @instantkamera

    @instantkamera

    4 жыл бұрын

    Former Forte SX and current GLI driver. What once was a genuine sentiment of pride in the quality and certainly *value* of Korean-made autos has taken off exponentially since the relative success (especially with enthusiasts) of the Stinger, Veloster N, etc.

  • @lmp9726

    @lmp9726

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've got a 2018 Stinger 2.0L, and love it. But let's face it, the Kia badge screams "thrifty". And then I recently found Korean badges on eBay for under $70, for the hood, the rear, the four wheels, and the steering wheel. I get asked at least once a week, "What kind of car is that?" 😊 I'd be lying if I said that I didn't dig that.

  • @aosggame

    @aosggame

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the Kia snobbery is fueled or a consequent result of badge snobs shitting on Kia in general.

  • @instantkamera

    @instantkamera

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@lmp9726 The only thing worse than the Kia badge is replacement 'K' badges. IMO those are all tacky AF, and the designs don't age well.

  • @dewfall56
    @dewfall562 жыл бұрын

    Trunk lid on the Stinger was likely set to only open about half way. It can go all the way up if you change the settings. The reason is in case you park in a low ceiling place, the lid won't hit.

  • @stephenadams8189
    @stephenadams81894 жыл бұрын

    I love my stinger gt2 I have 14000 miles on it. It’s amazing. I did have a rotor problem. At 12thousand miles They covered it in full. It’s tight. Fast. And beautiful. I’d buy another one for sure. Don’t know what’s his problem but must be something.

  • @JadaEbong

    @JadaEbong

    4 жыл бұрын

    How is the sound system on it?

  • @invisiblekid99

    @invisiblekid99

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JadaEbong Sound system is fantastic, the DSP effects are just brilliant.

  • @Boogetsbizzy

    @Boogetsbizzy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I heard about this rotor problem multiple times

  • @chili_d

    @chili_d

    2 жыл бұрын

    You were all in on the stinger. What’s the experience been like over the last two years??

  • @ericrodrigues3749
    @ericrodrigues37494 жыл бұрын

    Dayum that arteon looks good... REALLY good...

  • @haraldschon7794

    @haraldschon7794

    4 жыл бұрын

    The disadvantages of the platform can be clearly seen on the luxury class VW "Arteon": The Arteon is actually a car made from the Passat and Golf. VW-MQB platform, Modular-Querbau box of a compact car. This also means transverse instead of longitudinally installed engines and 4 cylinders is already over.

  • @Yondaily

    @Yondaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes it does look amazing

  • @BuyTheBookLotto

    @BuyTheBookLotto

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eric Rodrigues it really does but the price tag hurts

  • @maximzaslavskiy5980

    @maximzaslavskiy5980

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@haraldschon7794 The RS3 rides on MQB. So what? Just a newer platform.

  • @serbzero
    @serbzero4 жыл бұрын

    Great review fellas as usual! lets go for 500K subscribers! Love the Stinger (minus all the fake vents), would love to see next Mazda 6 in this league. Sportback + inline SIX Skyactive X + AWD :)

  • @entegar3
    @entegar3 Жыл бұрын

    whatta fun review ! regards from N. Texas.

  • @narekhart9862
    @narekhart98623 жыл бұрын

    Im a performance addict but that vw is so nice to look at idc what they say

  • @martymr.fittness7746

    @martymr.fittness7746

    3 жыл бұрын

    Fuck yea and 280 on the dash like fuck!!!

  • @dnegel9546

    @dnegel9546

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@martymr.fittness7746 280kph = 173mph

  • @_LEONKING_
    @_LEONKING_4 жыл бұрын

    This channel is basically like if Doug Demuro was 2 cool guys from Canada, I like it!

  • @wristoww

    @wristoww

    4 жыл бұрын

    I love Doug, but these guys are definitely way less annoying than Doug lol. He’s just so freakin nitpicky

  • @TheIceMurder2

    @TheIceMurder2

    4 жыл бұрын

    And with way higher production quality. I'm pretty sure Doug films his videos on an iPhone and has minimal editing.

  • @bachhunghoang

    @bachhunghoang

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheIceMurder2 yep, he uses his iphone to make videos

  • @_LEONKING_

    @_LEONKING_

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@TheIceMurder2 true, these guys are great.

  • @santiagocalderon3261

    @santiagocalderon3261

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@wristoww nah, Doug is great, its just a different approach to car reviews, I personally enjoy both

  • @joelbielecki3501
    @joelbielecki35014 жыл бұрын

    I think the Buick regal (Opel insignia) Sportback would be a more legit competitor for the arteon. the Stinger is simply a class above, more a competitor for the A5/S5.

  • @Yondaily

    @Yondaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    Noooooo

  • @chuckd7423

    @chuckd7423

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Buick Regal's interior doesn't compare well with the Arteon, but it's much less expensive. The best comparison, feature for feature, would be the Arteon and the 4 cylinder Stinger, but that Stinger version would also be thousands of dollars less than the Arteon.

  • @juelzm149

    @juelzm149

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree! I would take the Regal over the Arteon in that case. Never been a VW guy but I found this interesting

  • @theblitz6838

    @theblitz6838

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ehh, the A5 is quite something else tho.

  • @jaredshelton4718

    @jaredshelton4718

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Yondaily Yeeassss.

  • @shahakahmad2919
    @shahakahmad29193 жыл бұрын

    "V10 for life lmao" love these guys!

  • @stephenjablonsky1941
    @stephenjablonsky1941 Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2022 Stinger GT-Line AWD and look forward to driving it every day. For $42,000 you get a great car with all the bells and whistles. So far I have 12k trouble-free miles. My dealership in Stamford is professional and friendly. I had two Optima Turbos before this and they were both trouble free and all I ever did was change the oil. They never needed servicing.

  • @kevinbates5760
    @kevinbates57604 жыл бұрын

    First impression James looks small in the VW those seats look huge.

  • @mikewazowski7613
    @mikewazowski76134 жыл бұрын

    Kia Ria.......Holy hell that had me cracking up. Great video as always fellas. congrats on the increasing subs, the hard work is paying off.

  • @xWheatThinz

    @xWheatThinz

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ria 🙄 I think you mean rrhea as in diarrhea...

  • @Yondaily

    @Yondaily

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kevin Hughes ewww

  • @kman2362
    @kman23624 жыл бұрын

    21:12 "VW have a great history... *ish" 😂

  • @johnbacon4997

    @johnbacon4997

    3 жыл бұрын

    Starting at 1945 VW has a great history

  • @pablo_mishu_2787

    @pablo_mishu_2787

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnbacon4997 1938

  • @aashishdhawan3824

    @aashishdhawan3824

    3 жыл бұрын

    Made by Fuhrer xD

  • @BoopSnoot

    @BoopSnoot

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aashishdhawan3824 By Volk for Volk! TBH though, Volkswagen did nothing wrong.

  • @wearysky3532
    @wearysky35323 жыл бұрын

    Such a great review - just came across you guys looking for Stinger videos, since I just bought a 2020 GT Limited myself. You guys are hilarious! The Arteon is a nice looking car, for the most part... But that flat semicircle around the wheel wells? DO NOT LIKE.

  • @aamirqz
    @aamirqz4 жыл бұрын

    Up until now, I wasn't a fan of the Arteon's styling, but I gotta say... the Chili Red paint, 20-inch graphite turbine wheels, and integrated LED DRLs make the Arteon look quite striking. I like the two-tone leather with the light gray inserts as well. Nicely done, although the MSRP is too high. Luckily there are discounts to be had on these.

  • @francistaylor1822

    @francistaylor1822

    Жыл бұрын

    The wheels on the Arteon look amazing imo

  • @dasvintage2182
    @dasvintage21824 жыл бұрын

    I drive VW. Seeing this video made me so happy. You guys are great and funny 😂

  • @stevemclain2691
    @stevemclain26913 жыл бұрын

    You guys are AWESOME!

  • @mcseforsale
    @mcseforsale3 жыл бұрын

    I still own my '10 VW CC 6MT and it's still a blast to drive.

  • @kevinyoo0501
    @kevinyoo05014 жыл бұрын

    I suggest Stinger versus Charger would be another interesting match.

  • @dmn2273

    @dmn2273

    4 жыл бұрын

    Would be! But price for price a Scat Pack would eat this thing in performance and price.

  • @__-xf3iw

    @__-xf3iw

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well this isn't a boat comparison. Just kidding but i think the Stinger is just better for sportive driving on a curvy landroad. The Charger is a cruiser. But both are fucking heavy.

  • @St1ngerGuy

    @St1ngerGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    I own a Stinger GT2 but recently went to California and rented a Dodge Charger RT. Performance wise, the Stinger completely destroys the Charger. That said, the Charger exhaust sounds better and it handled pretty well. I am glad I rented it, had some fun with it on some winding roads. It did reaffirm my choice in the Stinger though. The interior of the Charger is crap compared to the Stinger.

  • @flclkun5479

    @flclkun5479

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@dmn2273 you constantly see the awd stingers destroying scat pack chargers from a dig. awd is no joke.

  • @darianward6841

    @darianward6841

    4 жыл бұрын

    We talking about a charger V6 or?

  • @denale6887
    @denale68874 жыл бұрын

    For the Stinger: try using the Cruise Control as much as possible in town .. even to increase speeds .. this should aid with MPG

  • @sunofshangoihate45thihated85

    @sunofshangoihate45thihated85

    4 жыл бұрын

    D. Ande Ward I agree

  • @darylaarons6625

    @darylaarons6625

    4 жыл бұрын

    D. Ande Ward, I think, generally, people who buy sporty cars aren’t as concerned with getting good fuel economy. Or maybe it’s just me.

  • @spreaddeezhazelnutz7511
    @spreaddeezhazelnutz75113 жыл бұрын

    The Stinger looks great but that Arteon looks freaking fantastic.

  • @BoopSnoot

    @BoopSnoot

    3 жыл бұрын

    Plus the Arteon has a lot of history and heritage to it. Nobody can buy a Kia, who originally just made below average quality bicycle parts, and think, "Hitler personally created this manufacturer as his dream for a people's car".

  • @bujangterlajak6808

    @bujangterlajak6808

    3 жыл бұрын

    arteon got only 4 seaters?

  • @hiiiofficial8306

    @hiiiofficial8306

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@bujangterlajak6808 no 5 seater

  • @bliglum

    @bliglum

    3 жыл бұрын

    Arteon is a better looking car, but he Stinger is a better car overall.

  • @alphonsbretagne8468

    @alphonsbretagne8468

    3 жыл бұрын

    depends .. to me the Arteon looks like a squeezed Passat with parts from the box of bricks system VW uses. You find parts from all series of models from Seat, VW, ... all over the place. There's no unique part just used for the flagship only!

  • @svtcarboy
    @svtcarboy Жыл бұрын

    This needs an update. The additional 32hp and DSG make a world of difference. I also found the drive modes on the new Arteon make a big difference in how it drives. While less sporty than the Stinger, the 2022 revisions gave the Arteon a real dose of sportiness.

  • @alexlioce5942

    @alexlioce5942

    7 ай бұрын

    Backed 100%. As a big VW nerd I have driven a 2023 Arteon and it put my ass in the seat real quick, noticeably quicker than the outgoing automatic

  • @marlo8850

    @marlo8850

    7 ай бұрын

    The stinger had one last update too and its got a new infotainment system, bigger screen and its faster, which was the only issue with the stinger, they also got rid of the 4 cylinder and diesel versions, its also significantly cheaper now and you can get a used one for around 20k. In my opinion a superior car to the Passat reskin

  • @catrabbit4996
    @catrabbit49964 жыл бұрын

    14:36 - “We get contrasting stitching; and extra beeping!” I died lol

  • @osvaldo8393

    @osvaldo8393

    3 жыл бұрын

    Meee when my passat beeps at 39* degrees 😂😂😂

  • @sirrogeriii9628

    @sirrogeriii9628

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@osvaldo8393 bro fr lmfao

  • @mattprior8442
    @mattprior84424 жыл бұрын

    Stinger is good looking different futuristic car until Arteon arrives ! That VW just look badass villain car from 70s but modern in its core ! I will chose Arteon in a heartbeat but in Stone Grey or in Jet Black with Navy blue interiors !

  • @TuatagaloaTeo

    @TuatagaloaTeo

    3 жыл бұрын

    I own one for that reason

  • @alanparsonsfan
    @alanparsonsfan4 жыл бұрын

    Great review, good interplay with good humor--fascinating for me because I drive a car that's really right between these two. My 2007 Hyundai Azera has punch (for it's day, 263hp), but also all of the room and comfort of the Arteon. Not a hatch, but a huge trunk with fold down seats. High reliability--still concerned about VW electricals. Both cars look better than the Azera, but that's the march of time. And the 13 speaker 600-watt Infiniti isn't bad either. I expect to look into the 2.4 Stinger at some point--after I've put yet another 100k on the Azera. Daughter has a 2012 Kia Soul with 170k on it now, it's been humming since new. Azera is a steal because they depreciated as if they were bad old Hyundais. Not surprised at all to hear about the Stinger and the G70...

  • @ericd.4460

    @ericd.4460

    3 жыл бұрын

    Azera is a very good car.

  • @mamoru480
    @mamoru4804 жыл бұрын

    Yall are talented. Lol definitely needed to subscribe.

  • @waynemagin2554
    @waynemagin25544 жыл бұрын

    Do a APR stage one tune, will put you north of 300 hp, also replace the stock DCC dampeners with Bilstein replacements soon to be out. The car is great as is, but with the before mentioned items, it just up the game nicely. You guys are great, lots of tech perspectives, good banter with smart humor, keep it up. You won a subscriber !!

  • @growmafia4113

    @growmafia4113

    Жыл бұрын

    Bilstein for the win! 🙌🏾

  • @DazdnCofuzd
    @DazdnCofuzd4 жыл бұрын

    The front end of the VW looks better, but overall the Stinger does look better. I'd take the Stinger for sure, nothing against the VW.

  • @DannyGodlewski

    @DannyGodlewski

    4 жыл бұрын

    DazdnConfuzd I was thinking of something similar. I really like elements of both, like the front of the VW, which also emphasizes how bad the front of the stinger looks (and those dumb side marker stripes on the taillights). I’d like to fit the front end/ interior front cabin of the vw, and combine it w the remaining parts of the stinger.

  • @alexmcdole4190

    @alexmcdole4190

    4 жыл бұрын

    I used to work at a Volkswagen and Kia dealership.Back in the day Kia was terrible but,but now they are pretty good and for Volkswagen I'll never buy.That's just my experience from being around both products.

  • @RIZFERD

    @RIZFERD

    4 жыл бұрын

    Arteon R-line 4Motion (all wheel drive) it is! Who needs to drive fast daily? Want to get fast, get a helicopter really. VW are best for daily.

  • @madclapper3237

    @madclapper3237

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@DannyGodlewski I read on a stinger forum that the side stripes are due to some sort of regulations and it was more of an after thought to comply with those regulations. I have the panthera metal and will black those out. Should blend well.

  • @MrFister84

    @MrFister84

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RIZFERD Until they don't start.

  • @darylanderson5810
    @darylanderson58108 ай бұрын

    I love these guys!! They are so much fun!

  • @Rockinbiker1946
    @Rockinbiker19462 жыл бұрын

    Bought a 2021 Arteon SEL R-Line FWD a month ago. Just got back from a 3K mile trip and didn't see another one on the road but saw plenty of the Kia. German exclusivity. I had many people give good comments about the car.

  • @Christyleadbitter
    @Christyleadbitter4 жыл бұрын

    I love the the look of the arteon. But it does need more! I really think Volkswagen should do an all performance version

  • @vladblak

    @vladblak

    Жыл бұрын

    just go for a stage 1 and boom 370 HP with 480 NM of torque, that's it

  • @carlvoer232

    @carlvoer232

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vladblak and there goes your warranty

  • @kingvega666

    @kingvega666

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@vladblaklol no

  • @jaypalo
    @jaypalo3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Subbed I’m looking forward to getting a Kia stinger in the future!

  • @davidperri8862

    @davidperri8862

    3 жыл бұрын

    Test drive a Stinger (a nice car) then go drive an Alfa Romeo Giulia (fall in love)

  • @jaypalo

    @jaypalo

    3 жыл бұрын

    David Perri my uncle actually did and got the stinger. Couldn’t turn down a 2020 GT1 for 38k out the door.

  • @blackdragon9077

    @blackdragon9077

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@davidperri8862 VW don’t have the Horse Power, hp is what counts not something under power

  • @JamieToddBand
    @JamieToddBand3 жыл бұрын

    I wanted to like the Stinger, but loved and bought a Civic Type R. Great comparo. Long live the Hatch (since we don't get wagons).

  • @leonsam84

    @leonsam84

    3 жыл бұрын

    if only the type R was designed for young adults I would of got one too

  • @karabomkhondo7418
    @karabomkhondo74182 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who feels like these guys can take the batten from Jezza, Ham and May? They’re funny, one is performance and the other represents us normal simpletons. Much love from South Africa guys 🤜🏾🤛🏾

  • @benjaminsmith2287
    @benjaminsmith22874 жыл бұрын

    The opening sketch is so hilarious. I miss these guys but they're staying safe in Canada. About the Stinger, I think I prefer this interior design to the Telluride/2021 Optima. They both have wonderful interiors but I think if they deleted the faux stitching and faux wood, as well as both are implemented, those two would be even more premium looking. The Stinger doesn't have that and looks fine without it. I l really like the Stinger's interior and hope they don't add faux wood, or even real wood, when it is redesigned.

  • @ericd.4460

    @ericd.4460

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's no wood in the new one, and I like it.

  • @dylandetails361
    @dylandetails3614 жыл бұрын

    The intro had me in stitches you guys are hilarious 😂😂😂

  • @shopwithaaron
    @shopwithaaron3 жыл бұрын

    I think I've got that Kia disease...We're on our third Optima...Now driving the 2017 SXL with every option...Love the Turbo and Nappa leather and all the rest...Fast, comfy and so much tech! I guess I'm in it for...my pleasure!

  • @PokeTycoon
    @PokeTycoon4 жыл бұрын

    You guys are great! I just subbed 😁

  • @danlittle447
    @danlittle4474 жыл бұрын

    As a dad, I finally put my pride to the side and made the best value purchase and bought a Stinger GT2, ghost grey with red interior

  • @paulnieder4236

    @paulnieder4236

    4 жыл бұрын

    My wife said my next car had to be a 5-seater. So I bought a Stinger. Atomic Blue. Three kids to transport in style!

  • @paulnieder4236

    @paulnieder4236

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Alastors_minion I'm very happy with it.

  • @danlittle447

    @danlittle447

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alastors_minion I love it, not many people know what it is which I think is awesome . Turns a lot of heads and feels very luxurious with the red interior

  • @superdestrier9160
    @superdestrier91604 жыл бұрын

    In the intro, they should have timed the bell sound with Thomas's punch.

  • @connerthatdude9369
    @connerthatdude9369 Жыл бұрын

    My dad just bought a Kia stinger and really loves it. I love it too

  • @splatbubble
    @splatbubble Жыл бұрын

    I dig this channel very much. I finally drove an Arteon (actually, both the new one and the old one) on the same day (yesterday) after waiting 2 years. I've always been attracted to the leatherette seat availability and the potential for tuning (which is massive.) I drove the 300hp version and even keeping it under 4000 rpm (pre-breakin) it felt pretty nice. Then I drove the 268hp one a few hours later, and booted it... honestly I don't even think I'd need to tune the thing. Fun as hell... almost tempted to drop my 2020 WRX for one... (crazy, I know). Perspective, 2017 GTI 6spd is my daily, and I traded my E63 wagon for an Alltrack (and some coin)....so feel free to call me a nut. EDIT: I would have bought a Stinger GT years ago if they had leatherette. Keep making the awesome content fellas.

  • @JEdmund81
    @JEdmund812 жыл бұрын

    Both great looking cars! I'd go Stinger though for the extra sportiness.

  • @mr.2cents.846
    @mr.2cents.8464 жыл бұрын

    I love the Stinger. The Harmon Kardon speakers make any song sound good. I saw a video a couple years ago where someone in the US bought a Stinger and ordered the Korean version of the middle console. It has a lid that covers the cupholders. Makes it look cleaner.

  • @robertadryan3996
    @robertadryan39964 жыл бұрын

    The beginning is absolutely the best intro

  • @imbluz
    @imbluz2 жыл бұрын

    My friend bought a used 2019 Stinger 4 cyl. for only 22K. With 255 HP it is plenty fast. No problems with acceleration or performance whatsoever. Plus, he got a great deal! Best investment he ever made.

  • @rsr789
    @rsr7894 жыл бұрын

    "I'll take a A. Lange & Söhne" Oooo fancy.

  • @bartandaelus359
    @bartandaelus3592 жыл бұрын

    The stinger's red interior looks absolutely sublime.

  • @stephenwells6945
    @stephenwells69453 жыл бұрын

    i think you guys missed something important on the Arteon. If you go into settings, you can set a custom mode for the dynamic chassis control. There are several stops tighter then the custom mode. It does make a difference.

  • @growmafia4113

    @growmafia4113

    Жыл бұрын

    What?! That makes a world of a difference. I HIGHLY value my 13 Jetta bc of the control it has over the road. Handles even better, now that I built and installed some custom Bilstein struts 😊👌🏾

  • @argkatt9040
    @argkatt90404 жыл бұрын

    I like the work you do but if I could make a request it would be to see more station wagons.

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