I bought the elite 3 in December. Stick suspension was crap. Put a fox factory 36 160, a fox factory dps, e13 155mm crank arms, different stem and bar setup. Bike rips and I didn’t notice what you guys were talking about in the corners. I have no problem getting it to lean in at all. Love this bike. Nice to see more people reviewing it honestly.

For 10k I'd expect not to have ANY issues, cornering, motor power or otherwise.

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

I have the Trance Elite 2 (purchased at $6,100 USD), and I really don't have any of the issues these guys were talking about. Never had any trouble turning this bike to the left... or right. But mine has a regular bar and 40mm stem. As they were saying, maybe the 50mm stem they put on there is not the right choice.

@RT-yh8pi

20 күн бұрын

I’m not sure what they’re talking about in terms of cornering? Mine corners normally on both tight climbs and decents…I have a size medium.

@jasper_of_puppets

20 күн бұрын

@@RT-yh8pi Yeah, didn't make any sense to me. It's not like this bike's geometry or construction is anything out of the ordinary.

Hey, good review! Owner here with the Elite 3, but with many upgrades such as, 160 Lyrik, and Super Deluxe Ultimate. Also a 30mm stem on a regular carbon bar. So it's basically an Elite 1 with an aluminum rear end. I was sold on the poppy, playful feel, good jumping and cornering. I don't slap turns like you guys, but I didn't have issues there. Very good all around trail bike. In chunky, steep, fast trails it can feel a bit "unsettled" as you say, and it took a lot of shock tuning to get it figured out. Not sure if it's the smaller rear wheel, or that it's just 140mm of rear travel plus stiff frame and wheels. I agree on the walk mode. They should switch it to the lower button for better ergonomics. I'm very happy with the range, and have still not needed to use my extender (so I can't comment on the rattle).

Great value! Especially when they have the Giant sales! ❤

This motor is top.

I have this bike and love it. Swapped the bar and stem wasn’t a big deal. My only complaint would be needs a bit more travel especially for heavier dudes. The shock is setup with such a light tune as well.

LOVE this review! SF East Bay Giant Retailer here and I Have the Trance X Advance E 0 Elite and Ive been trying to figure out how to swap the integrated bar out for a normal stem / bar combo but im having a hard time finding any support or manual on what to do correctly or what pieces to use?! Any guidance on this?! Thank you guys for the excellent job on the review!

@user-wj1vb2hm3f

13 күн бұрын

Just order the top headset assembly from Trance E+ Adv Elite E+2 and you are good to go.

@ajwright7936

13 күн бұрын

@@user-wj1vb2hm3f Im just unsure what adapters / stem spacers out of the box

awesome bike

@TheLoamWolf

21 күн бұрын

It certainly does some stuff quite well!

How did you get the E+1 build with this setup? Without Live-valve and with T-Type, etc?

@rgoring81

18 күн бұрын

2024 spec

@imacdvman

12 күн бұрын

@@rgoring81 ? when i go to the giant page, it still has Live-Valve configuration🤔

I just got this bike and love it. I keep my Trek Slash for the bike park, and this for everything else. I recently upgraded the Fox 36 air sleeve to bring it to 160mm. FYI Giant is currently some good sales on their site.

@TheLoamWolf

21 күн бұрын

Right on that is awesome to hear and we appreciate an owner sharing insights on the bike! Enjoy

@dkopunec

21 күн бұрын

Thanks. It's your channels fault that I'm buying such expensive bikes !!

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

I got the Trance Elite 2 late last year for a good deal (15% off MSRP at $6100 USD). I just recently threw a longer stroke DHX2 shock on it to bring rear travel up to 147mm. Holy crap, this bike absolutely riiips now! Next step is to up the fork to 160mm like you did with yours and also install a Grip2 damper. I think it will be an awesome all-mountain setup once I'm done. I love this bike!

@sdtrailrider8070

21 күн бұрын

@@jasper_of_puppets What stroke DHX2 did you put on? Is it a coil? I wasn't sure there is room back there for an X2 air.

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

@@sdtrailrider8070 55mm stroke. Yes, coil. Fits just fine. Now, I didn't test full compression of installed shock with coil and bottom-out bumper removed, but I believe there is enough clearance in the rear triangle/linkage to not hit the seat tube at full bottom out. At some point, I had let all the air out of the stock 52.5mm stroke air shock and there seemed to be plenty of clearance for the extra travel afforded by a 55mm stroke shock.

Would be really nice if you guys could include European measurements (Kg, centimeter and such) - you could for example just blend it in, the guy that edits your videos for example. I think that would make this channel even bigger but nerveless I love you guys and this channel! Much love from Germany

I want this bike with Pinion MGU motor gearbox combo. Giant can you help a guy out?

Was hoping you would review my bike :)

@RT-yh8pi

21 күн бұрын

Me too! I have the exact same bike and I love it. So far, ranks miles ahead of other bikes I’ve tested including the Heckler SL and Levo SL carbon Comp.

One thing I noticed in your vid, regarding range extender battery rattling: Looks like you're missing the rubber strap that cinches the battery into the cage. That might be why you experienced excessive rattling?

@TheLoamWolf

21 күн бұрын

Good eye in that clip. We ran the rubber strap during our testing, except for that one time we were filming. We had pulled it out to quickly repeat a section with battery in and out to see if it got quieter, and when we put it back in for the repeater, we didn't strap it down.

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf Ahhh. I own the range extender and mount for my Trance Elite, but I have yet to actually install/use it. Most of my rides have either been with non-Ebikers, or at Skypark, so I haven't needed more than the 400wh internal battery.

Took a good look at the geo after everyone thought it didn’t turn. I found out what it is. The stack. It’s superr low! 605/611 on a medium. Put a super high bar and maybe it will change how it feels.

@jeanmarc_in_Hudson

20 күн бұрын

I tried this bike and agree about the stack being too low. Everything else I liked.

@jokermtb

5 күн бұрын

I have a GT Sensor, which came with a very low stack. Ended up going full on Dakota Norton w/ a 60mm rise Spank bar and 35mm stem combo, and it transformed my low-stacker into a Dak Stakker! Handles marvelous now.

Nice review. I'm still not super convinced that e-bikes are the way to go...am I being stupid lol?!

@Nickporter17

19 күн бұрын

Yes

What stem and bar did you swap with? Does it need a bar with internal routing for the switch?

@TheLoamWolf

20 күн бұрын

We put a OneUp E bar and stem as that's our favorite bar.

mention giant sync drive pro failure motor randomly shut off. flashing L2 led error and error code 6A. there is a petion going on : giant deploying software or firmware to privately-owned e-bikes, disabling them or putting them into limp mode without the owner’s consent. This forces the customer to return our bikes back to their place of purchase and pay additional fees just to restore them back into working order. . Just saying ....

@sdtrailrider8070

21 күн бұрын

Where did you lean of this? This happened to me in fact with flashing red L2. Had to bring it in for a diagnostic and it just fixed itself. Nothing wrong with it.

@BSE75

20 күн бұрын

@@sdtrailrider8070 my bike has l2 led error motor stop randomly working and it is still not solved. the rest you can google for more information

@TheDuds33

16 күн бұрын

....and with each update through the app, it gets worse and worse.

Interesting that fox made a white mtb jersey 😂

Please start giving weights in Kg too.

I'm not an E-bike rider but why would you take an E-bike to a bike park? Especially a mid-travel E-bike?

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

1. Some people only own one bike, and rentals are expensive 2. E-bikes are very stable in all situations, so there are benefits to riding park on an ebike, even if there's a chairlift. For example, I had a mid-travel ebike that was more stable through chunk than my non-electric enduro bike. 3. Some trails at some bike parks require some pedaling, so an ebike is nice to have in those situations.

I will stick with the Timp Peak

@TheDuds33

16 күн бұрын

Good call. I'll be selling my newish Reign E+ and moving to a Timp Peak.

I expect it to be lighter. Can you really tell a difference between a 50lbs orbea and a 46lbs giant? But I guarantee you will tell a difference in battery size on more than 1 hr of riding.

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

I think the 46lbs is including the ~2lb range extender which puts the Giant at 600wh. I ride my Trance Elite without the range extender all the time on longer rides. I just have to use more eco settings more often. It's the trade-off of having a lighter weight bike with full power.

Along with the moterra it's probably going to be the ebike I use the most that's what you can easily rent around here. I choose not to experience ebike depreciation again 😂 The live valve thing seems like a gimmick that some boomer would think a millenial would enjoy, to me it's goofy at this level of sophistication call me when it's infinitely live adjusting LS and HS...

Where is the reign E?

@TheLoamWolf

13 күн бұрын

We didn’t get one.

I bought a 2023 Giant Reign E+. Yamaha motor is pretty good. Paint quality has been laughably bad and Giant has become one of the worst in the business when warranty issues arise. Their app updates seem to create issues and don't seem to solve anything. A lot of the newer Trances and Reigns are no longer charging to 100%. They'll just cycle to 85-93%. For $10k, I'd steer clear and work with a company that actually seems like they want your business.

@TheLoamWolf

16 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear about your experience, and we appreciate you sharing.

@sdtrailrider8070

15 күн бұрын

I don't think your problem is connected to the updates. I have had a couple rides where I thought it was at full charge and it wasn't. Now I give it some extra time on the charger and it has been at 100% and showing full health.

@jokermtb

5 күн бұрын

most chargers only charge to 80% as that last 20% is very hard on batteries......they only go to full 100% at pre-determined charge cycles.

@TheDuds33

5 күн бұрын

@@jokermtb that is not how Giant works. They have two charge modes. Storage: will charge to 60% Normal: charge to 100% (at least it's supposed to) There are multiple owners reporting the issue I've stated since the latest update and the workaround has been to remove the battery from the frame and then charge.

You lost me at $10,000 🤣🤣

20.6kg isn't light by any stretch, esp running a mullet setup (which probably saves 0.5kg at least). The new rise comes in at 18kg with the big battery and full power (85Nm) and runs full 29.

@adampalma7880

7 күн бұрын

Maestro is a more sophisticated suspension design that adds weight but having ridden both bikes I much preferred the Giant suspension and happy to cop the weight penalty for nicer feeling bike

Ha, yeah stupid long name and model designation…

@TheLoamWolf

21 күн бұрын

Certainly not the easiest model to remember.

@jasper_of_puppets

21 күн бұрын

Agreed. There's no other bike in Giant's lineup that has the 'Elite' designation - electric or otherwise. So Giant really should have just simply called this bike the 'Trance Elite.'

@jokermtb

5 күн бұрын

kinda how Harley Davidson names their models!

Holy hell another lame ebike review 😂😂😂

@TheLoamWolf

21 күн бұрын

Haha yessss. We were worried we didn’t see you yesterday!

@DB-sd3cw

21 күн бұрын

@@TheLoamWolf that's weird af. Sad you expend so much energy thinking about critics instead of making good content. No wonder you're stuck reviewing ebikes

@TheLoamWolf

20 күн бұрын

😂 look forward to triggering you again tomorrow!