I watched The Questor Tapes one and only episode when it aired in the early 1970s. I fell in love with it. I have a copy and after watching this I think I’ll queue it up.

@terrytalksmovies

7 ай бұрын

Go for it. 🙂😉

There's a scene in "Questor" that is replayed in the Next Gen episode "The Royale." In "Questor," he and Jerry go to Vegas to finance their quest, where Questor squeezes a pair of dice to redistribute their centres of mass and thus affect the outcome. Data does the same thing at the dice table in "The Royale." I've read a couple of anecdotes that suggest that Mr. Roddenberry had very little to do with the creation of Next Generation; that the show was almost entirely developed by David Gerrold and Dorothy Fontana, and that one of the few things that Roddenberry contributed was - you guessed it -- Questor, retooled as Data. The man never threw a good idea away. One thing I would like to have seen in Next Gen is that, when we finally meet Dr. Soong, he would be ultimately revealed not to be a human played by Brent Spiner in old age makeup, but rather an android, played by Robert Foxworth -- in other words, Data's creator would be revealed to be Questor.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Roddenberry was involved in Next Gen for two seasons but totally pissed off the writing room. Couldn't collaborate and some of his input was very old fashioned at the time.

@willmfrank

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies Part of what has come to be known as "the Roddenberry Problem" is that he became so fixated on his vision of the "perfect world" concept that he forgot the most basic element of storytelling: conflict. In Roddenberry's perfect world, there is no conflict; therefore there is no story. Whenever a writer would introduce even a hint of conflict, Roddenberry would say something like, "Don't you understand? In the future, they don't do things like that!"

@timeliebe

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies - why? Just because he once spent an entire afternoon explaining his ideas about the Ferengis' sex life? Upon reading that, I realized that PRETTY MAIDS ALL IN A ROW wasn't an anomaly for Gene Roddenberry. At all.

@stevenscott2136

3 жыл бұрын

@@willmfrank That wasn't just his old age at work. According to Shatner's "Star Trek Memories", much of what we liked about the original show was actually the doing of Gene Coon. If Roddenberry hadn't been forced by circumstance to use others' stories for scripts, instead of his own, I suspect we would have had a very slow, philosophical show that only the most pretentious of nerds would have watched.

@kali3665

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies Roddenberry's idea of being progressive was making some of the male extras wear the same skorts the women wore. That didn't last long. And I think it was writer Melinda Snodgrass who made the point. She said once, "Roddenberry told us the Federation was perfect, and we have no flaws. But only the little fuzzy wuzzies were imperfect and it was our job to set them straight." Just like in the original series. It was only when DS9 started that the parameters of the NextGen world really started to expand, and by that time, Roddenberry was no longer in the loop. Probably a good thing.

Only The Night Stalker and The Sixth Sense had some success among many failed pilots for paranormal investigator shows -- Baffled, The Norliss Tapes, Fear No Evil, Ritual of Evil, The World of Darkness, and The World Beyond.

Thanks Terry. I was just a kid when Genesis II came out, but it made an impression and I've always enjoyed rewatching it. I recently discovered it was directed by John Llewellyn Moxey, who also directed the original Kolchak Night Stalker TV movie, which explains a lot (at least for me). I'd love to have seen more of Alex Cord as Dylan Hunt in a TV series. I can't say the same for Planet Earth. Even with Ted Cassidy returning as Isiah, and John Saxon doing his best, seeing it a few times is more than enough. The Sub-Shuttle's were always cool though.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

True

Blast from the past. I remember all of those pilots. My brother and I used to watch anything horror or SCI-if. We were bummed when they did not develop into movies. That scene with all the variations of the androids in The Questor Tapes was haunting. Specter was a fun horror show. Thanks for the memories.

@terrytalksmovies

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Okay, I`ve seen some of your videos randomly but this one made Me subscribe. These were some of My favorite tele-films of the 70`s along with The Norliss Tapes . Wished I could own them all on Blu-Ray. I was very disappointed that none of them made it to series.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

It's a shame.

I remember seeing both Spectre and The Questor Tapes when they were first aired and loved both of them. And I still do!

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

They're worth a revisit. Have fun with it.

@GraemeCree

5 ай бұрын

Spectre is virtually unwatchable. The story just doesn't hang together. Too many long action scenes and too little explanation of what's happening. It's too disjointed even for Mystery Science Theater to riff.

I've read that Leonard Nimoy was originally promised the title role in "Questor", but Roddenberry went with Robert Foxworth, instead. Nimoy was hurt by this, and it was one of the reasons he was reluctant to return as Spock for "Star Trek: TMP". By the way, I think Nimoy's failed pilot "Baffled!", where he plays a clairvoyant race driver, would make for a good double-feature with "Spectre".

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Baffled, I kinda remember and yeah, good double feature. I think Foxworth may have been less expensive than Nimoy, which may have contributed to the decision.

@timeliebe

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, it really would've -- it even played like a show Roddenberry would write. It was also one of my favorite non-Spock Nimoy roles....

@greenmonsterprod

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies "Baffled!" is on KZread. It's been a while since I've seen it, but I recall it being extremely Seventies. Trivia note: at an appearance at the Museum of TV and Radio in L.A. in 1995, Mike Nelson mentioned that they tried to get it for MST3K, but were unsuccessful.

I wish both "Questor" and "Spectre" were turned into series. These were missed opportunities for 1970's US TV. I was very intrigued by "Questor" (interestingly a questor was a treasurer in the Roman government). I wonder if like Data in the Star Trek Next Generation, Questor would became more human.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

That would be a sensible character arc.

Nice video. Thanks. The Questor tapes and Spectre are both excellent for having elements that are now quite rare in dramaturgy. A plot that privileges narrative structures that come from literature, such as pure science fiction, horror novels or detective stories. They also have elaborate scripts that are far from being cliché and have characters who do smart things. Just think of how these pilots would be redone today and you notice the saturation of certain aspects - primacy of style over substance. Today these pilots would be about young people, they would be action-packed and some rehashed "epic", the text would be easier and would be in tune (or would be a victim) of any silly, pleasant and fashionable politics.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Politics and culture changes whether we like it or not. I don't think these series need reboots so they can comfortably sit as artefacts of their time.

@WPQ190D

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I work with audiovisual content and I run into the problem daily. The "updating" of content uses politics as an excuse but in fact it is a veiled way of not admitting that the content has to be produced only and within the immediacy and lack of depth of the public. If you don't understand Rodenberry's content and culture, imagine how problematic it is, for example, to actually understand the work of John W. Campbell, Ambrose Bierce or Alexandre Dumas.

Exciting to find out about an old scifi tv show that I've never heard of, even if it's only a pilot.

@terrytalksmovies

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I could help.

I just watched “Spectre”…..this pilot was way ahead of its time, like x-files, but demonic / satanic bad guys! Super fun. 😎😎😎🤓🤓🤓👍👍👍

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. But Gig Young is a problematic protagonist. Someone without the problems might've been better.

@dlee827

3 жыл бұрын

The episode sounds as if it has a touch of Night/Curse of the Demon about it too.

@DavidTSmith-jn5bs

2 жыл бұрын

I just finished watching it too. I saw it more like Holmes & Watson (with Watson having an addiction for a change) meets John Constantine & Chaz Cramer. Constantine used demons to overcome physical setbacks while plotting to destroy them as well. I strongly agree that this pilot was ahead of its time and it's a shame that it wasn't sold...

Always great content, thanks!

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

I remember watching Spectre when it was originally broadcast and really enjoyed it and wished it were a series

@terrytalksmovies

2 жыл бұрын

It could've worked with a season arc leading up to a Big Bad at the end @Tiki Dino .

@tikidino

2 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies Agreed. I’d like to see this remade but unfortunately what happens is the true vision gets muddled. At times, fan fiction may be the best route

I remember seeing these as a kid. The image of iterations of androids lying in a cave seemingly to infinity stuck in my mind as well as Questor ironing his face together. I always thought Genesis 2 / planet Earth would've made a great prequel to Star Trek because we could've seen Earth rebuild itself after ww3 like they talked about in Trek episodes. It's a cool premise with them exploring an isolated civilization each week, but Stargate eventually did this and better I think. The subshuttle sounded like a great idea, but the technology is way beyond what Elon Musk thinks is feasible at least for now

Seems very neat and Love that each time you do your intro it’s always a very unique and fitting music for each video

@terrytalksmovies

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@theprodigiousspiderstarTM

2 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies you’re welcome

I remember watching both these pilot movies back then. I really like The Questor Tapes. I just didn't see it running more than 3 seasons though. Spectre was ... weird and not to my taste but still kind of interesting to me back then. Never knew it also had a theatrical release though. Thanks for that bit of information.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure. The version I watched had too much female nudity for it to be a US TV version.

Gene Roddenberry gave a great lecture at my college in 1984. He could not have been paid much, but I enjoyed his presentation. I did not see any of these programs as I was out of country throughout the 70’s so saw little tv.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

You can watch them now. 😀

My brother and I saw Questor Tapes as a late movie ages ago. We enjoyed it. You couldn't tell it was a pilot until the very end.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think that detracts from it. But it's a lost opportunity for sure.

Another solid episode! Mind you in all fairness with a KZread handle like, "Son of a Red Shirt!" I'm bound to look favorably on anything concerning Gene Roddenberry. LOL! Curiously Star Trek's Leonard Nimoy wasn't cast in the "Questor Tapes" however the Questor Tapes Robert Foxworth landed a small but significant role in the Star Trek spinoff "Deep Space Nine" as Benjamin Sisko's (Avery Brooks of "Spenser for Hire" and "A man called Hawk" fame) former commanding officer Admiral Layton. If I'm not being rude I would like to offer just a thought, it might make for a fun and easy to research episode if you did one centering on the film and TV work the people from Star Trek (and even the spin-offs) have done that isn't (or possibly is) Star Trek, ex. Before ST Shatner had prominent roles in films like the Brothers Karamazov and Judgment at Nuremberg and after ST he quite famously did TJ Hooker, Boston Legal and Rescue 911 as well as (Co?) authored numerous books, several of which were original science fiction and a couple which were Trek. If you look at the entirety of the Star Trek franchise I think you'd be surprised to find how many actors had interesting and noteworthy careers both before and after ST. Again Terry you're doing fantastic!!! I'm sure you have a million of your own ideas and if you dismiss this out of hand I promise you there will be no hard feelings, it's just an thought. Cheers! P.S. Can anyone reading this discern the drinking game I've cleverly (read: accidentally, through lackluster and poor writing ability) hidden in my comments! If so please do not play!!! I do not wish to be responsible, however inadvertently for anyone's Star Trek related chronic alcoholism! Lol! P.S.+ John Vernon is a Canadian acting Legend! Animal House , The Outlaw Josey Wales, Point Blank, Charley Varrick, The Black Windmill, Killer Klowns from Outer Space and Chained Heat! Certainly had an interesting career.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Two Points: 1) My favourite Shatner movie is The Intruder - which lost Roger Corman money and 2) The guy who wrote the novel for The Outlaw Josey Wales was a genuine KKK Grand Wizard! Thanks for the info and thanks even more for watching.

Another potential supernatural detective show in the 70s was The Norliss Tapes. It wasn't picked up either.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

I was never impressed with Roy Thinnes as an actor.

Well I kinda knew Genesis II and Planet Earth would be here, after the success of Andromeda and Earth final conflict

@magusxxx

3 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, Andromeda was a retooled vehicle originally called Excalibur. Which was the name of the ship Commander Ryker takes over. Ryker is far, far, far away from Star Fleet when some new threat suddenly devastates the entire Federation. The main theme of the series would be Ryker trying to get the Federation put back together. It almost sounded like a mash-up of Deep Space 9's The Founders and Voyager.

@johnryder1713

3 жыл бұрын

@@magusxxx Really

Leonard Nimoy, of course, also replaced Martin Landau in Mission Impossible. I gather the two were friends.

It's also worth pointing out that the plot of "Planet Earth" and "Earth 2" is pretty much the same as the plot of his later show "Andromeda", which I thought was really good. EDIT: And I see several other commenters have made the same point. :-)

Rock Hudson is a HIGH SCHOOL football coach in Pretty Maids All in a Row. Quite a difference.

I have never heard of these gems. Thank you.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure

I agree with two you choose. Robert Clup is always good in any part. I watched UK version of Spectre on late night tv 30 years.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Culp was always great. He also did some writing about cinema, so he's our kinda guy.

Great to see those ❤️🐸never saw them. Thanks for sharing.

The animated series was very good

I remember the Questor Tapes pilot. A shame it never went anywhere. I like John Vernon in anything.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

He was good in Point Blank, too.

@DanDeLeoninthefield

3 жыл бұрын

Vernon's voice was so powerful it's hard to imagine him not using it in some kind of performance art. I particularly remember him from The Outlaw Josey Wales and Animal House. And, of course, Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

@m.e.3862

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanDeLeoninthefield Vernon did the voice of Tony Stark/ Iron man in the 60s cartoon which made me laugh because all I could think of was Dean Wormer talking dressed like iron man

I have seen The Questor Tapes and enjoyed it and yes felt it was the ‘birth’ of Data. Haven’t seen Spectre will have to look it up…thanks again

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

"The Questor Tapes" was one of my favorite cyborg movies. I remember "Spectre" when it first aired on American TV. Both films are very well done. James Villiers reminded me a bit of H. P. Lovecraft. Thank you, Terry, for bringing these two films to light once more.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

I have watched and enjoyed both of these movies years ago. A series from either of these pilots would have been nice, but oh well. Thanks for remembering.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

I saw three of them. Never saw Spectre but I like Robert Culp. I did like Planet earth with John Saxon as it was restoring civilization mission.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Good point about Planet Earth but it has dated badly. Oddly Questor and Spectre haven't really.

Spectre sounds a bit like the BBC drama 'The Omega Factor' which starred Louise 'Leela' Jameson, although without the budget...

I don't know... I kind of liked the Dylan Hunt Concept. Had it been picked up, I see it as 'The Fugitive' with a Sci/Fi backdrop! (Like so much Yank Sci/Fi from the 70s!)

2 movies I saw and loved them both. Read the book 'Questor Tapes' too, Shame it wasn't made into a series, it had great potential 👍, Specter I didn't recall untill you mentioned Robert Culp and Gig Young, enjoyed it and there was another pilot with Roy Thinnest who title had tapes in it. He recorded his investigations of the paranormal and someone listened to them as he where abouts were trying to be determined. 👍

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

The Norliss Tapes but I always found Roy Thinnes a very wooden actor.

@55Quirll

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies That was it, thanks. It reminded me a bit of Dark Shadows 👍

The Genesis II, Planet Earth and Strange New World stories would become the basis for Andromeda.

@terrytalksmovies

2 жыл бұрын

Andromeda never grabbed me. And now that I found out Kevin Sorbo is an anti-vaxxer, I'm kinda glad.

They all were good

I have a theory that after a visit to the UK in the mid-70s GR saw BBC's Blakes 7 and 're-imagined' it into Andromeda. There are several character parallels I think.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure. Never got into it and now Kevin Sorbo is a RWNJ anti-vaxxer, so I'm not likely to, either.

@themorn2112

3 жыл бұрын

I lost interest in Kevin Sorbo before his anti-vaxxer pivot. He was right wing before being an anti-vaxxer. I don't recall what triggered my distaste for the actor before his anti-vaxxer revelation...

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorn2112 sometimes it's just that they're a bad actor.

Many years ago I spoke to a crew member on Spectre, who spoke about Gig Young's on-set drinking, fooling no-one that his 'mineral water' was anything other than vodka. Funnily enough for me the weak spot is Robert Culp, an actor I normally like very much. He's just too full-on for the entire show.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

I think he was compensating for Gig Young's low-energy boozy stuff. Seemed a little pissed off by it. I would've liked to have seen where he took the character over a series, but I concede your point.

It's somewhat baffling that at least one of these didn't get off the ground. They all had a fascinating premise and were chock full of intrigue and even horror at times. It actually leads me to believe that Star Trek Phase II would of been a tremendous series. The motion picture route was definitely the wrong one.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

I think we could've had Phase II and the movies. Studios can walk and chew gum at the same time.

@SwillinGrog

3 жыл бұрын

Haha... you're quite right. I wonder if we still would of had a Next Gen in that timeline?

What always struck me as odd was Roddenberry's need to "recycle" characters in later shows. Questor becomes Data, Dylan Hunt sleeping 20th century scientist revived in the late 21st century becomes sleeping Starship captain revived 3 centuries later (Star Trek: Andromeda before its "transformation"). Incidentally, I read somewhere that Robert Culp was on the short-list to play Mr. Spock before Leonard got the part. I guess Gene liked Culp's portrayals on "The Outer Limits" where he played a genetically altered human, a scientist with a metal plate in his head that alerted him to an alien invasion, and a robot from the future fighting aliens. Another great review..

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Culp would've been a great Spock. See if you can find Demon With A Glass Hand from The Outer Limits.

@DavidTSmith-jn5bs

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies I bought the VHS tape of "Demon..." years ago and Harlan autographed it. I don't know if the DVD of "Outer Limits" is available in Australia, but Best Buy and Barnes & Noble has sold it in their stores for years. Maybe you can either buy it at B&N's website or on Amazon.com

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidTSmith-jn5bs I have both OG Twilight Zone and Outer Limits on DVD here. I also have region-free blu-ray players to let me see region-locked content.

I loved Geneses II (AHEAD OF ITS TIME!!!) and Planet Earth (ALMOST ANY-("Sci-fi"[!!!])-THING with John Saxon; I wish there was more with him); I'm mixed about the Questor Tapes. I ALWAYS HOPED there'd be a remake of Geneses II; look at the concept of tubes connecting different locations (precursor of Hyperloop concept).

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Fair enough. I prefer Questor and Spectre, but we can agree politely to disagree. I rewatched Genesis II and Planet Earth last year and they're not quite as good, in my opinion.

@4:03 Notice that The Questor Tapes was written by frequent Roddenberry collaborator, D.C. Fontana. I remember watching it some 40 to 50 years later so it must have had some merit.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

The novelisation was written by Dorothy Fontana, not the teleplay.

All these pilots were missed opportunities, but I still think Genesis 2 was the best of the lot. I think it would have been a worthy successor to Star Trek.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Genesis II has too much of a swinging dick vibe. Too macho.

I have copies of the first two. Seen the third one many years ago. Never heard of the last one. I'm going try to find it. Speaking of the animated series, I was 12 when it premiered. It gets panned by alot of star trek fans but I thought it explored some interesting ideas. If you can get by the horrible animation. I still watch it now and then.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Filmation's animation was basic but they were at least trying to do interesting content and the writing was solid.

almost any show or film with John Saxon is good to excellent! Questor clearly the ancestor of Data! (My favourite Roddenberry non-Trek is Earth:Final Conflict)

@DavidPaulMorgan

3 жыл бұрын

oh, I didn't know about Spectre. thanks for that.

I have “The Quester Tapes” on DVD and really enjoy that movie, and I have all three films in the “Genesis II” trilogy as well, rather like them - but Quester would have doubtlessly been the more enjoyable series had it gone on. I’m ashamed to say, I’m completely unfamiliar with “Spectre” and it’s unfortunate that its availability on disc is limited at best. And nothing that I can find on streaming. That’s unfortunate, because I would enjoy viewing it.

@terrytalksmovies

Ай бұрын

Here's a copy on KZread. Not the best quality but it should be watchable. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fp2ho6uDcd3VYbg.htmlsi=Qep6Wg4kCVpheLhf

@MoonjumperReviews

Ай бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies - thanks! That’s something, at least! I’ll check it out. (KZread is sadly also the only way you can watch the 1960s series of “The Green Hornet” which has never had an official release despite its adjacent connection to Batman and its Bruce-Freakin’-Lee! Go figure.)

@MoonjumperReviews

Ай бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies - thank you very much!

Wonder if story ideas were made if both got picked-up for a series?

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

They had scripts for Questor, definitely.

Is it just me or does Robert Culp in a turtleneck look like he's trying to be the American Christopher Lee?

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Nah. Everyone wore them in the 60s and 70s.

Spectre, is a forerunner to the HBO telemovie, Cast A Deadly Spell.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Already covered that one. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qp-Y2rxmZqjTZ84.html

Cheers for the show. Will definitely watch some bad tv, I can’t help myself except to jump in and help myself. UFO is one I like to watch that makes me swoon cringe and giggle at the same time, gum optional. John Denver just needed a little more airtime. Sorry only pilot dad joke I have. Peas love and long life Blokeout.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

You, too.

James Badge Dale for Questor!

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

I prefer his Dad, who was in Les Demoiselles de Rochefort.

@DThron

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies nice - I'll look this one up today!

The Questor Tapes is fondly remembered because it did NOT go to series. The idea that there are aliens who can save us from ourselves is an old story idea. The anti-government (not just anti-Republican or Democrat style of today) idea that we need something better drove a lot of movies and shows of the late 1960s and early 1970s. A series would have devolved into a typical corporate mess, which Roddenberry saw. "Too intelligent for TV" is a phrase used way too often.

I somehow missed “Spectre”. I’ll have to look it up.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy.

Culp did very doggy Australian accent in a tv movie I saw in the 70's. Once again he was great,also another good tv movie cry for help he as a DJ talking a mysterious girl who wants to kill het self. He played a guy who didn't care at first, but enough in time during of the film. The film take place during whole shift, and when he shifted so did the film, and we didn't know if made difference to the girl's life.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Let's just settle that everyone not Australian or a Kiwi can't do Australian accents, except Robert Mitchum who came close in The Sundowners.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

@Damian Magee www.imdb.com/title/tt0072834/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_99

@billsinkins361

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies Not even James Coburn in The Great Escape? 🤣

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

@@billsinkins361 Phuk no!

And I think I liked the Dylan Hunt pilots better than you did, Terry. Yes, GENESIS II repeated the "too cerebral" issue that "The Cage" had, casting Mariette Hartley as a "superior" villainess lost Roddenberry a female actor who was both smart and wryly funny, and I don't care how good Alex Cord looked as a young man, he always seemed more a Vaguely Sinister Bureaucrat than a Handsome Man-of-Action Hero. But the worldbuilding was genuinely interesting, using University of California campuses as futuristic cities a smart budget-saving move, and teenaged me thought the Maglev "subshuttle" that rapidly transported people across the globe was Kewl as Fuck! The reboot, PLANET EARTH, was a rewrite of the never-produced STAR TREK: THE ORIGINAL SERIES episode "Doggie in the Window" where McCoy and Uhura end up on a planet were Black humans are dominant and Whites are subservient...and all the fun&games that arise from crusty Southerner Dr. McCoy having to pretend to be subservient to Lt. Uhura! I'm relieved we never got that episode because I'm certain it would've sucked worse than a Dyson -- but we did get it, only with Women as Dominant over Men, as a series pilot. Starring John Saxon -- which I didn't think worked when I watched it, but after seeing ENTER THE DRAGON I think might have flown if Roddenberry had added more "James T. Kirk, Con Artist" to Dylan Hunt.

@stevenscott2136

3 жыл бұрын

I can see McCoy pulling off that act. After all, he grew up 400 years from the slave plantations, so his "southernness" was mint juleps and courtly manners, and he seemed to actually like Uhura. I'm guessing the act would fail when somebody gets hurt and McCoy kicks into "chief medical officer" mode.

@timeliebe

3 жыл бұрын

@@stevenscott2136 - I would hope so, but from the way people who saw the script were talking? It's like four centuries of progress went bye-bye in one scene! Which is why I'm SO glad it never happened....

Terry I'm trying to track down whether an Australian film is an urban legend or really did exist. Supposedly one of the first Australian Sci Fi movies made in the twenties or early thirties had cattle mutilation as part of the plot. It was mentioned in the Fortean Times many moons ago. I strongly suspect it's an urban myth and thought you might know more?

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like an urban myth to me.

This is off subject, but are you familiar with the British horror movie "Night of the Demon". If you have seen this Movie what is your opinion/assessment? I found this movie very entertaining, even the end which was tacked on against the Director's wishes.

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/aGWdtcOIhba5k9Y.html Nine months ago I did

@themorn2112

3 жыл бұрын

@@terrytalksmovies I realized that shortly after I posted the question. I fell for the very thing I criticize others for, not researching the question before posting it. Thank you for responding. 👍🏾

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

@@themorn2112 Don't worry about it. I've done the same thing myself.

It annoys me no end that none of these are on dvd. I mean, seriously?

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

Rights issues and finding original master copies can be a problem.

Network execs have mucked up a lot of potentially good TV shows

@terrytalksmovies

3 жыл бұрын

The suits are usually wrong in most cases.

@dlee827

3 жыл бұрын

Jean Renoir, Orson Welles and Buster Keaton in his MGM years probably all had cause to regret the influence of the studio execs.