“Since it’s lost all of its momentum it can behave like a less powerful projectile” *Shows Arjun Shell*

@isanayashiro2376

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 300 mm penetration

@igoryst3049

3 жыл бұрын

@@isanayashiro2376 that is close to DM43 APFSDS from german Rheinmetall Rh-120 L/44 gun used in Leo 2

@lukam8815

3 жыл бұрын

Murdered.

@DShortQoutes

3 жыл бұрын

Shhh, "The best MBT."

@mikeikerman8249

3 жыл бұрын

In before a certain someone makes a reaction video regarding the "WAr THuNdEr eXpERt".

in my 8 years of playing WT I have only ever seen 1 APFSDS round shatter and it was on the road wheel of a centurion

@wooptydo6241

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve only ever had one shatter on the ufp of a bmp-2

@thespoderdoge4757

3 жыл бұрын

The only shatter I get is a consistent one with the Conqueror's APDS when shooting the Ferdinand's sort of ufp area in the test drive

@igoryst3049

3 жыл бұрын

@@wooptydo6241 and BMP UFP is basically it's front roof angle

@radonsider9692

3 жыл бұрын

Just seen twice. Vickers MBT shattering my Leo's APDS

@panzerkampfwagenviiimaus2187

3 жыл бұрын

If you test drive any the Ikv 91 105 (The new swedish vehicle) And shoot the t90s lfp with stock ammo it will shatter close to every single time.

Quick conclusion if you didn't manage to follow the video: 1. APFSDS can ricochet or shatter, but still retains a large portion of its penetrating power, mainly from the back half of the penetrator; 2. Old soviet steel APFSDS with/without the small tungsten core probably won't penerate the UFP of M1 Abrams (because the back half is softer steel); 3. Any modern APFSDS hitting the UFP will go through, either by ricochet into the turret ring, or just go straight through the UFP; 4. IRL, the UFP of M1 Abrams is very unlikely to get hit, so that US Army just don't care; 5. Warthunder is a game, don't expect it to be super realistic.

@xxpussslayerxx9525

3 жыл бұрын

I extremely and EXTREMELY agree with u on reason 5 I’d buy you a drink on that one

@jaewoojung1309

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxpussslayerxx9525 lol true

@donaldhysa4836

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean its very unlikely to hit its right under the turret?

@aliarham6343

3 жыл бұрын

@@donaldhysa4836 accuracy of modern tank smoothbore guns is not that good to even hit at small weakspots

@Zosterias

3 жыл бұрын

@@aliarham6343 more like in WT you don’t have to take account into dynamic factors such as wind, humidity etc. And also, you don’t have to account for parallax error between the sights and the gun, unless you’re playing Simulator mode.

In all my time playing War Thunder, I have only experienced 1, and only 1, shattered APFSDS, I wasn't even mad, I was just shocked Edit: Just so you know what it was shattered by, it was an R3, they’re growing more powerful every damn day

@ThatAusGamer

3 жыл бұрын

Over 1600 metres i found that leopard 1 and all other variants often shatter sabot on their mantlets

@lamalien2276

3 жыл бұрын

Good job wasting your life playing the shittiest game on Earth.

@SubaruWRXSTI-sf2pp

3 жыл бұрын

@@lamalien2276 oh yeah man, we already know how bad it is. we play it;-;

@HughMann989

3 жыл бұрын

@@lamalien2276 oh yeah, we know, but it’s like an abusive relationship, you know it’s bad for you but you just keep coming back

@IainPScott

3 жыл бұрын

Man can I have your luck please? I need it buahahahah. Doing IPM1 and M1 and have a lot of em right now.

Arjun be like: Tank shatters when hit and the apfsds projectile is completely fine. Edit: I think I accidentally started a comment war here.

@mr.waffentrager4400

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao this is joke right ?

@Tankliker

3 жыл бұрын

Noooo mighty Indian defense industry makes great tonks, very good 70T behemoths with no protection against any kind of modern projectiles. India forevaaaaaaaaa

@pussyslayer2295

3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.waffentrager4400 this is scientifically proven Arjuns apfsds can go trough any tank that isn’t Arjun at any angle, no armor can save you from Arjuns apfsds round that was giftet from gods

@m1a1abrams3

3 жыл бұрын

except maybe helicopters.any heli csn absorb even vacum 1 fired from armata

@Tankliker

3 жыл бұрын

@@m1a1abrams3 I mean. No armore best armore.

The paper you mentioned refers to the collapse of the modern APFSDS projectile. Didn't you read that the APFSDS assumed on the first page of the thesis is a 'tungsten monoblock long-rod'? It is a contradictory conclusion that projectile collapse does not occur in modern APFSDS. Even the latest modern APFSDS could ricochet or shattered when hit the high hardness RHA. If projectile enter below 86', critical ricochet happens and projectile is shattered, lost it's all penetration. if projectile entering at a very sharp angle,(Over 87') a nomal Ricochet can occur that projectile will preserve it's almost all penetration. but Abrams/K-2/Leopard's UFP is the angle at which the impacted projectile is shattered. If you want to make a claim, at least read the thesis properly before it Do not pretend to be logical without reading the thesis, please read it straight and take a video sneaky idiot REFERENCE 1. W. Lanz , W. Odermatt. PENETRATION LIMITS OF CONVENTIONAL LARGE CALIBER ANTI TANK GUNS/KINETIC ENERGY PROJECTILES, Swiss Federal Armament works, CH-3602 Thun, Switzerland 2. Lee, Woong & Lee, Heon-Joo & Shin, Hyunho. (2002) Ricochet of a tungsten heavy alloy long-rod projectile from deformable steel plates. Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics. 35. 2676. 10. 1088/0022-3727/35/20/331.

Gaijin CEO: Quick gentlemen, how do we nerf leo 2a6, 90% win rate is too high employee: make it fight leo 2a6 Gaijin CEO: brilliant! you get a promotion

@jaspermennink7409

3 жыл бұрын

that logic of gaijin was impeccable not like if 1 2a6 loses the other one won and canceling each other out

@davesthrowawayacc1162

3 жыл бұрын

Its plausible considering how many countries use the Leo2.

@ratlingzombie8705

3 жыл бұрын

Just wait for Leo2A7V 10.7 BR

@DavidC1

3 жыл бұрын

or simply add ARJUN

@rifaatfebriano5428

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidC1 that tank would shatter anything because it's best Tonk

I've been preaching this on War Thunder's forums for years now: If you want more authentic action in terms of tank on tank engagements, then start lobbying for bigger maps and higher average engagement distances.

@halonut96

3 жыл бұрын

We do

@RAiNfORAiNbOW

3 жыл бұрын

@@halonut96 we dont small maps are more fun sniping is residentsleeper

@pukalomaster3321

3 жыл бұрын

Plz tell me were i want to play sim on big maps

@news_internationale2035

3 жыл бұрын

I wish I'd get more night maps. Also the non night vision tanks that have headlights and spotlights, there should be the option of using their lights too.

@junglistmassiv

3 жыл бұрын

@@news_internationale2035 stop

Where some countries rely on the Platform for success, we rely on the crews utilization of the platform for success. A tank is useless without a good crew.

@kakbun258

3 жыл бұрын

@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ are you implying that hans is not a capable crew member?

@Notmyname1593

3 жыл бұрын

That truth is at least as old as the Roman empire. Many tried to copy their legions, but only romans understood how to use them, as they weren`t inherently better than their other contemporaries but relied on an entire system to make them suck seed.

@MORBIDLY_COMFY

3 жыл бұрын

@⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ what an amazing name you have. Simple yet elegant.

Finally, this video needed to be made

@rextuller3498

3 жыл бұрын

This is a Russian bias channel that hates America he prays on the death of amerika “red effect” communist propaganda channel gets his information from Rt new channel and speaks with Putin about these topics

@jflorez6484

3 жыл бұрын

@@rextuller3498 what lol

@USSAnimeNCC-

3 жыл бұрын

Yes comrade

@rextuller3498

3 жыл бұрын

@@USSAnimeNCC- you hear me XD

@jebbroham1776

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing's gonna change though. Gaijin is shit.

1:59 You couldn't resist showing Arjun ammunition

@joselee9605

2 жыл бұрын

You never know when Alpha defense is watching, gotta throw in that shade

The problem is that when cresting a hill, your effective hull angle is even shallower than the 7-8 degrees and can be almost 1-2 degrees yet the APFSDS still doesn't bounce reliably. Also, the turret ring on the Abrams isn't as big as the game makes it seem to be. That gap IRL is less than an inch thick. The bottom of the turret actually slopes upwards a little to give clearance for the driver's ports/hatch, but that's not the turret ring itself. Also, those deflections are more than an inch so it should deflect upwards into the composite section and be eaten like most of the other tanks do. Even when it does deflect, the Abrams is the only tank at top tier that you can reliably trick shot a non APFSDS round off the top plate and into the turret ring. Or a small caliber APFSDS through the front. You'd get a lot less complaints about this if it weren't for vehicles like the R3 and BMPs that are bouncing a ton of massive sized APFSDS shots than their thin armor should probably be able to. Also, the propensity to shatter increases with the rod length when the diameter doesn't also make the same proportional increases especially with tungsten or depleted uranium. Those alloys are much stiffer and more brittle than steel. The softer metals will tend to deflect and ricochet while the denser, stiffer metals will shatter. They're much more brittle and instead of deflecting like in the images shown for the steel rod tests, will instead explode as the metal itself can't handle that kind of deflection and energy in such a short amount of time.

@St.Matthew422

2 жыл бұрын

How a shell would bounce that heavily into the composite? The bottom of the APFSDS would just follow the UFB angle a litte upper until it would hit the turret ring plus, modern APFSDS should probably pen 600mm of armor, maybe it can lose 500mm but still it has 100mm left which a ring shouldnt be able to stop And nobody complains about BMP and others because they can be literally killed by 50 cal so even if you miss, you still can finish them quickly, meanwhile Abrams has extreme protection on the hull and bizarre bottom hull that only do damage to the driver only

@Talishar

2 жыл бұрын

@@St.Matthew422 You didn't read anything. IRL, the "turret ring" portion is a little less than an inch and that's not technically the turret ring. The turret and chassis have overlapping sections of raised armor specifically to protect the turret ring itself and to prevent debris from building up in the turret ring and jamming it up. Gaijin current has the turret ring area nearly 4-5 inches in size when it should be around the same size as most other tanks. Deflections consume a massive amount of energy in order to change the direction of the round. This is why modern APFSDS generally tends to shatter IRL instead of deflecting as the tip starts to change and move direction separate the rest of the body of an extremely rigid and brittle depleted uranium rod with a ton of energy. Even if the round doesn't shatter, a massive amount of energy is lost to change that direction even a tiny bit and therefore, the penetration power decreases drastically. Everybody complains about the BMP's magical ability sometimes to bounce modern APFSDS in the game itself. It doesn't matter if it can be killed with .50cal from the sides, it's the fact that it can still bounce modern 120mm APFSDS in-game which should literally be nearly impossible to do when an abrams with similar hull angles in a shallow hull down position with thicker armor wont.

Still waiting for my tank made of solely optics. Thing would be invulnerable.

@TheMasterCheeze

3 жыл бұрын

optics.... the black hole of gaijin penetration spreadsheet calculator.

“Reality is often disappointing”

@nomercynodragonforyou9688

3 жыл бұрын

Yes

@huntforandrew

3 жыл бұрын

And yet in reality an M1829A1 aka the Silver Bullet ricocheted off the UFP of an abrams and shattered during a FF incident in the Gulf War.

@usmc55645

2 жыл бұрын

@@huntforandrew can you send me the article sounds interesting

@huntforandrew

2 жыл бұрын

@@usmc55645 gulflink.health.mil/du_ii/du_ii_tabh.htm Look for B Company, 3-66 Armor, Abrams (Bumper # B-22) gulflink.health.mil/du_ii/du_ii_refs/n52en369/7161_039_0000007.htm

I really love the shell terminology “long rod penetrators”

1:44 the wound is still too fresh..... that really hit me in the feelings!

0:43, That is a Saudi Arabian tank that was detracked by a (missile or IED, I dont remember). The crew abandoned it, and the insurgents set the thing on fire with scraps of flammable material. Theres a video on the whole thing.

@fulcrum2951

3 жыл бұрын

You'd think the crew would be the one wrecking the tank instead of the enemy Prevention of capture of intact equipment to hostile forces and shit like that

@milicijaofficer6611

3 жыл бұрын

@@fulcrum2951 yeah. Middle east insurgents man.

@St.Matthew422

2 жыл бұрын

And? He wasnt saying that the abrams is bad

@milicijaofficer6611

2 жыл бұрын

@@St.Matthew422 And... I was never criticizing anyone, or anything. I was just pointing out where the photo* came from. edit: photo*

The real solution would be to have Gaijin to make better maps to accommodate how modern tank v tank warfare would be like. Of course this would bring in new issues; ATGMs being a possible one.

@joshjonson2368

Жыл бұрын

They added pradesh, a step in the tight direction...?

Why would you even complain about a thing called "long-rod penetrator"?

7:09 it's good to see that Ramirez survived mw2 (:

@darnit1944

3 жыл бұрын

Sgt Foley, i know it's you. Stop hiding.

>Red plays the 2A6 Yeeeees continue to spam that thing so I get my T-90M)))))))))

@marceloescobar9096

3 жыл бұрын

That thing is pure cancer

@dragoneye0979

3 жыл бұрын

@@marceloescobar9096 Im fine with it being in the game... if other nations have anything that is even close to it in terms of performance. Gaijin, leave it like it is now but give the US their SEP, give the soviets their T-90M, give the British whatever new armor package they've come up with today, give Italy their proposed Ariete Mk 2, give the french something idk, give the japanese their type 10, give the sweeds their whatever maybe just give the 122 the slpprj m/95, and give the Chinese a 10.7 MBT

@therealmp40

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragoneye0979 Thing is it should not be introduced to the game without a counterpart. Remember when they added supersonics? You had the F100D but the MiG-19 was added as wel to counter it, then the T-2 came which had unmatched capabilities and it screwed everyone over.

@doubleaplays8450

3 жыл бұрын

Yes and spam the T-90M so i get my SEP V1/2

@12LoLproductions

3 жыл бұрын

I come out on top by having both

Under the gun mantlent is exposed after firing big gap for a good gunners

@SVNLVN

3 жыл бұрын

Gunners don't actually aim for weak spots. They just aim for center mass. Chances are, if a tank really is hit by an dart, there is a high probability of something going wrong

Fun fact merkava 600 mm pen round will go directly through crew members/ammo/engine and only make them red on xm1.

@einar8019

3 жыл бұрын

that happens to all shells some times. but i have only seen it in the protection calculator

Finely a video that mentions warthunder outside the sponsor

Abrams UFP = 38,1mm @ 7 degrees designed to defeat tungsten projectiles with a penetration capability around 330mm. But notice that there are secondary plates over the fuel tanks under the UFP.

@alifio2183

3 жыл бұрын

But mr driver have no such luxury below the hatch :/

@einar8019

3 жыл бұрын

@@alifio2183 isent there a spall liner?

@alifio2183

3 жыл бұрын

@@einar8019 nah. Just periscope and hatch. Spall liner are behind the fuel tanks which are on both side of the driver's position.

WOW, I heard about this week point yesterday. Of course very interesting and no hurt feeling we thank you for that.

Oh my god thank you so much for this video. Finally!

Red Effect is there a source for the China Central Television APFSDS test that you've shown in the video? It's a good video BTW.

Interesting, but what is the correlation between armor thickness and critical angle/perforation angle? Does it change? Or does it change with the ration between perforator/armor thickness?

Only experienced 1 shell shatter when an APFSDS round from my GM XM-1 hit part of a T-72AV TURMS from a dumb angle. Ricochets are more often, like that one clip where an R3 T20 bounced a sabot from an M1A2...

Like your content with your knowledge of Tanks in general is fantastic

Redeffect finally making WT content....yeaaaaaa

Could we get a video on light armored wheeled ifvs such as the LAV-25 and BTR-80/90?

That was very informative. Thank you.

How war thunder can fix the upper front plate is by making bigger maps for modern tanks to fight at realistic ranges

@warbound1

3 жыл бұрын

Then all the autistic players would screech it takes them longer than 5 seconds to drive into the battle.

@92HazelMocha

3 жыл бұрын

But then CAS though. Imagine getting bombed into submission without ever seeing another ground vehicle in most maps

@theraindog9141

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine playing SPAA. 8.0 radar SPAA is reliably effective up to about 2km. Maps only a small handful of maps are longer than 1km. That makes a bubble 2km in radius that's a no-fly zone for most planes below 8.7 (a bubble that's worth noting extends roughly 1km behind enemy lines). Imagine you're not fighting in a vacuum and have a team. Maybe load your expectation that someone is going to cover the sky with a habit of checking what your team is playing between spawns. You see no SPAA? Then you spawn in it. Or spawn a plane that can fight planes and carry some bombs or rockets too. On a longer map, SPAA would actually have to move to the zone it needs to cover rather than just sitting in spawn. That sounds bad but planes would also have to fly further to target, forcing them to carry performance crippling ordinance for longer and the pilot to pay attention to a larger area. Attacking from extreme ranges demands greater accuracy from the pilot, and increases the chance your target will move before your bombs/rockets hit. This game is stupid.

lol love your comments on your experience with warthunder at the end.

Off topic, but they did fix some stuff. They fixed the hull ammo bug and the A2 commander hatch modeling error. Hope they add hull ammo blowout panel in future.

Wow a youtuber that knows how the abrams armor works.

Finally a video talk about war thunder after so many ads from it

Finally, a video we all craved for.

@RedEffect, does rib armor like from Strv 103 MBT stop projectiles from ricocheting?

@procurator8382

3 жыл бұрын

it decaps the projectiles, making them more likely to shatter

@einar8019

3 жыл бұрын

it also stops small arms fire riding up the plate into the optics

Finally RE is talking about WT outside the ads

Consider that the Abrams most valuable statistic in WT over a soviet or Russian vehicle is the gun depression, and where you're using it, the plate in question isn't even visible.

I don't even play WT that much, but I have often wondered when I do HTH does a machine gun knock out a main gun??

That upper plate would actually deflect a shot into the turret gap. SO it's a SHOT TRAP.

In WT even the leo 2s hollow arrowhead turretarmor if you hit it at the tip the game only calculates it to be around 500mm which is enough for the newest shells ingame to pen it lol(especially next to the gun breech)

Thank you Red Effect Much Love

@Feffdc

3 жыл бұрын

Do you give him good marx? Huehuehuehue

i wonder how driver feel when one of those longus dart penetrator hit the ufp

ive seen two shattered, that's it, it was in the game for a week, then got removed

Can't wait to get Arjun on next update.

@ceoofdazn7615

3 жыл бұрын

ARJUN BEST TANK . #1 ONE .😂😂

Every time I shoot UFP of abrams with my 3BM44, it just ricochets to turret right or driver periscopes. In armour analysis it says I can pen it, but in game it just ricochets 90% of time

@salvatorescaletta7490

3 жыл бұрын

I think, but am not sure, that armor analysis takes account of ricochet when it says if it won't penetrate or not. That is to say it takes into account shot trapping I think.

That picture of a destoryed Abrams killed me a little inside.

@JMIKE_JMIKE_

2 жыл бұрын

It’s the export model not the one the us uses this guy don’t know shit

So that picture of the destroyed Abrams was a strip down version with no depleted uranium armor. Very similar to how all of the T-72 tanks that Iraq had, they were stripped down and they got massacred in the Battle of 73 Eastings

@WarInHD

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention an Abrams bounced 3 125mm rounds ranging 1,000, 700, and 400 yards then proceeded to destroy all 3 T-72’s. Personally I don’t think Gijain gives the Abrams enough credit. Only 21 (most were stuck or shot from friendly fire) have been lost in combat with zero deaths

@narukami597

3 жыл бұрын

@@WarInHD I dont know much about tanks but I'd trust the mbt of the strongest military of the world.

I’ve noticed this when playing my 2a6 it goes through that like a hot knife through butter. Kinda bs in my opinion considering I also have the M1A2 myself. Good old gayjin

this is rare, war thunder video?!?!?

@ungabunga1496

3 жыл бұрын

There is a leopard 2a7 somewhere lmao, have a fight with him.

Have you seen how british apds shatters on the leo1 gun mantlet everytime at ranges beyond 1000m

Does the Turret ring have any armor? It seems like it doesn't but I have heard it does

Some guys were arguing that the UFP was actually 50.4 mm thick instead of the 38.1 mm modeled in-game, and such that explained why it was so weak against Soviet 125mm HE. How correct is that statement?

@xXDeltaTwoZeroXx

3 жыл бұрын

Incorrect per official Abrams armor specs

@mamarussellthepie3995

3 жыл бұрын

@@xXDeltaTwoZeroXx Lmao as of what, 1982 specs xddddd

@xXDeltaTwoZeroXx

3 жыл бұрын

@@mamarussellthepie3995 The UFP was never changed regardless of what spec we're talking about. Not for the SEP V1, 2, or export versions even. You have to understand how difficult shooting that UFP is in the first place for them to change it. What needed to be changed was the LFP and that was changed accordingly.

Red Effect, I have a question. Do sand bags help increase protection around an armored vehicle? I see modern APC and AFV with sand bags.

@Fish-kz8xw

3 жыл бұрын

dont forget wood as an armor too

@StopTakingDamnHandles

3 жыл бұрын

As I know, sandbags are going to be useless against APFSDS. Their most likely used to help defend against HEAT projectiles along with caged armour.

@Muffinkakes1

3 жыл бұрын

Sand or rocks do actually a pretty decent job at absorbing energy from HE or HEAT projectiles, but only handheld rounds are likely to be stopped

@jaewoojung1309

3 жыл бұрын

Dont forget ivans and igors from cccp army

@fulcrum2951

3 жыл бұрын

Not really, it would increase the weight without providing any actual benefits

Rather than complaining about the upper front plate, people should be questioning how modern APFSDS shells are somehow able to pen through a composite screen, 5 trackwheels and ~50mm side armor at 80 degree angle. Now that's the real bullshit

I love how the only time he talks abt the abrams is just to shit on it

@bamaman6478

3 жыл бұрын

@@Armored_Ariete ?

RedEffect, how did you get to top tear in War Thunder?

What song is used in the background?

Someone already mentioned this in here, and I mentioned this before in a Covert Cabal video, but *goddamn* nationalism is one hell of a drug!

@banegas0411

3 жыл бұрын

People do it with 2a5 cheeks aswell

I have a question about the challenger 2 in WT. is the gun mantle that weak irl or just the snail being lazy like normal?

@HJDore

3 жыл бұрын

It’s far stronger irl and in game it’s just used as a balancing feature for the cheeks being very well armored.

I thought this was a Spookston video

the thing is, shell shattering is already present in warthunder, its just extremely hard to get it to occur since volumetrics and such, and 9/10 times it doesnt register it as a shell shattering and instead registers it as "non penetration" so the projectile either way cant do anything. ive managed to get a shell shattering once before the volumetric shell addition, and that was using the soviet steel penetrators with tungsten core on an abrams. it is there, but highly unlikely and doesnt even change anything gameplay wise, so shell shattering is likely to remain an unobtainable shell collision scenario in the game for the rest of time.

I like to hover around the mid tiers, and the only shatter I’ve experienced was on APDS

@moffatcam

3 жыл бұрын

Got a shatter with 3BM-8 on a Tiger II (P)’s UFP

Speaking of low probability of encountering apfsds from modern tanks, Can you do a video on the practicality of modern antitank guns (cannon) and why they dont make them anymore?

@winstonsyme7672

3 жыл бұрын

I can answer that one. Because they would have to be very large 120mm guns, or probably bigger and they would be too heavy. And then you've got the weight of the fire control system. You need a vehicle to position and aim them, and then you just get a tank destroyer. And you can't really compare it to heavy towed artillery because you don't need to hide and maneuver those things on the fly. You just put them on a trailer, pull onto the shoulder of the road, fire, hitch it back up, and then drive off. ATGs worked because a crew could pick them up and wheel them into the bushes, and then pick them up and turn them or move them to engage the next target.

This is cool and all but can the abrams get it's blowout rack back to what it used to be

I've heard a lot about the shell shattering APFSDS against Abrams floating around, but this is probably the first worthwhile video I've seen on it. Thanks for putting this out! *cries in M1A2*

I experienced one only as well and it was against a t10m in a Cb with a friend lol. It must’ve been a weird quirk in the game so I fired at the same spot and it went through and I recreated it with a restart and it went through. lol.

I wouldn't be surprised if Gaijin stops sponsoring Redeffect after this video lol

Can you do a video on the M48 Patton?

@mok822

3 жыл бұрын

I want it too.

I never have apfsds shatter in wt But if the angle is high it just bounce

RBMK42 may not shatter on impact but it cant pen the Abrams turrets frontal armor. I have lost so many T72AVs trying to pen Abrams. Chasis is killable. Other variants like IPM1 and XM1 are killable on turret impact. Above does not apply on them.

Bro it’s so rare that a shell shatters I remember it happened to me and dude wasn’t on any kind of angle

Source of that Chinese video about APFSDS?

The classic doctrine of “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”

Good video!

Quality stuff man, good research

i bet they also think the UFP of the T-26 are meant to shatter APFSDS

Gaijin : lalala I can’t hear you

Zulifar 1-3 isnt an Abrams clone it's based on M60 and cheifton parts with a 125mm gun.

@lardthing7417

3 жыл бұрын

You have to admit though that it looks suspiciously like an abrams

@nemisous83

3 жыл бұрын

@@lardthing7417 I'm sure the barrowed the basic outline for zulfar 3 but then a lot of tanks try to share this outline similar to how Arjun tries to copy leo2

Did i leave my vacuum on again? Oh NVM it's just the abrams

Freeaboos be like:Muh abrams best tonk its impenetrable video bad

@gnas1897

3 жыл бұрын

Freedom? You must mean Freedom™

@Tankliker

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it's American. So it must be superior... in fuel consumption.

@Tankliker

3 жыл бұрын

@Leplivo oh, thanks for explain this very complex and high-level joke. I would have never even guessed anything near this masterpiece of a joke, so smart in so many ways.

@SonicGold34

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and every video that is about another nations tank is literally the same shit, I swear people just keep getting more and more retarded as the years go on. READ A FUCKING BOOK

I learnt more about tanks then i hv at school and my own research i think im gonna start playing war thunder again

Softer materials are far less likely to shatter than Harder materials

Your doing WT contents now? Nice !🤙👍

We also have to keep in mind the average engagement distance on many maps means that most armor will be ineffective anyway. Most actual real combat engagements take place at long to extreme long ranges were armor is most effective. In the case of warthunder, at most of the engagement ranges the apfsds has plenty of energy to over match the armor, that is to say, rip the armor plate apart and penetrate despite any angling. Yes of course we could cherry pick specific instances where shattering or not shattering is just wrong but ultimately the problem with shattering or lack thereof lies with the map design of the game and less with the armor/physics simulation.

Forgets the sep1- sep.v3 and .v4 packages. Realising that modern Abrams are far more advanced then these displayed.

They should fix 3BM42, it has a bad penetration at angles compared to the other rounds, but in real live it's very effective againts angled armor.

@stilpa1

3 жыл бұрын

@Leplivo yep

@danny2717

3 жыл бұрын

They should fix both 3BM42 Mango in terms of penetration and the extremely nerfed 3BM42M lekalo. The latter should be better than the US 120mm M829A1 silver tip as far as I know.

@stilpa1

3 жыл бұрын

@@danny2717 true

You started a flame war on earth under forums, congrats

Anyone noticed the tiktok watermark shaking by the right side.

good video

"reality is far more disappointing" *shows picture of guys who literately had to start a bonfire in the Abrams to destroy it * 😂 🤣

@elchurcho2704

3 жыл бұрын

Those RPG arent cheap... that bonefire was cost effective😆

@crusaderclarkplays5466

3 жыл бұрын

It's was run out gas, I watch those two guys doing rpg. Still the Abraham survived and they just throw inside the tank cockpit drive by a molotov.

@josejaimes-ramos1546

3 жыл бұрын

@@crusaderclarkplays5466 also it has to be noted that export Abrams models dont have the top secret highest quality armor package.

@banegas0411

3 жыл бұрын

@@josejaimes-ramos1546 the Saudi variant doesnt

@fpsserbia6570

3 жыл бұрын

@@josejaimes-ramos1546 "top secret highest quality armor package" ---- is usually depleted uranium plates or some type of ceramic armour both are very expensive, i think Israel developed it own version that is probably based on US research.

I witnessed it once, Leo 1A5 cannon breech shattered mine 120mm Abrams shells, and then his Leo 2A5 friend got me. After this i just simply alt+tabbed cause i was so schocked and angry

I LOVE YOUR CONTENT!

*depleted uranium armor has entered the chat*

WTs armor doesn’t even work like it should across the board anyways so I’m not surprised this doesn’t work either