In the new quest neuvillette confirmed that he was the hydro dragon, and also arlechino suggest that furina is the hydro archon but she is incomplete, there’s also the mystery of where is her gnosis

@dareokoski8158

10 ай бұрын

there is a world quest where they entertain the thought of a oceanid being a dragon. saying dragons can come in many forms.

@Sukiato

10 ай бұрын

​@@dareokoski8158 Hmmm I think it'd be cool if he was an oceanid but I just can't see a sovereign being created from an archon (as Egeria did make oceanids.) Like the sovereigns are teyvats natives so I don't see a foreign god being able to do that if that makes sense???

@Sacration

10 ай бұрын

Exactly

@kianasgf171

10 ай бұрын

thats in regards to rene tho @@dareokoski8158

@NerdEmoji1067

10 ай бұрын

Not necessarily a theory because there’s not a ton of evidence, warning slight story leaks ahead but it’s pretty easy to guess this leak anyway so The most powerful hydro entity seems to be childes whale, and it’s leaked it’ll be the weekly boss in 4.2. So maybe it has the gnosis?

I never noticed how much tears symbols were on both Furina and Neuvilette, and with the "Tears of Egeria" being such a big deal this suddenly have a lot more weight to it

@Sacration

10 ай бұрын

Oh yeah true

@AruHiseki

10 ай бұрын

Tears on the 3 most intriguing characters of Fontaine. The Oratrice, the Archon, and the Iudex. Now we just need to find the real meaning behind it.

I don't understand why everyone is so hard on Furina when we haven't had a chance to even learn her full story yet. Venti was first a useless Drunken Bard, Zhongli was a mora mooching Mortuary director, Ei was a tyranical, vision stealing General, and Nahida was thought to have little to no interest or interation with her people. Every Archon has turned out to not be what they seemed initially, for one reason or another. So I think it's best to withhold judgment until we get her whole story.

@Marika_ER

10 ай бұрын

Nah Nahida was always great

@Mars_261

9 ай бұрын

​@@Marika_ERit was what the fandom thought back then

I think the belief they place in the Oratrix is what gives Furina power. I really think that Furina is acting like this because she’s channeling all her energy into the oratrix to stop the prophecy and that’s why the version of her we see is incompetent and doesn’t know anything or she’s in the oratrix and the Furina we see is just a projection or a body double or smth, or Furina is split btwn the real god in the Oratrix and and much weaker version outside of it. The curse Arlecchino mentions is probably that, and either she did it to herself which is more likely or either the previous archon or more likely Celestial cursed her. She may not want to make an enemy of the divine because she has already experienced their wrath. But anyway I’m sooo exciting for the 4.2 archon quest and Furina!

@xeroxavier1464

10 ай бұрын

That would be cool, but I hope Furina is Furina. She's clumsy as she is, not because some of her power is sealed or anything but because that's her real personality. I mean we already have graceful archons like Nahida and Zhongli, a happy but suspicious archon like Venti, and a "stubborn" archon like Ei. Having an archon with a new personality seems nice for me

@avyay9818

10 ай бұрын

@@xeroxavier1464 not her personality but she should not be this weak as an archon maybe she’s like that but her power is locked away

@AruHiseki

10 ай бұрын

Theres likely adeeper reason why Furina cant say anything about the Oratrice. A curse to endlessly judge all others hmmmm..

@Maaseruu

10 ай бұрын

@@avyay9818 there's a speculation that she has 2 personality, one her goofy incompetent side, and one her serious side that deals with real trouble. That's why on leak she's able to change outfit and hair on her skill

@avyay9818

10 ай бұрын

@@Maaseruu Yeah I’ve seen that too. I think that makes sense

Now you mentioned it, I kinda think Furina could be this first tear of Egeria, the first metamorph oceanid 🤔 if she's Egeria's first tear, she's connected to her the same way that Nahida is a twig from Rukkhadevata and Ei is Makoto's twin, so that'd explain why she ascended to godhood once Egeria fell in the cataclysm... Perhaps this could also be the reason Furina can be so unpredictable, sometimes scaredy and whiny, sometimes wise and serious, sometimes confident and determined. She was born from Egeria's emotions, and as much as she still inherited Egeria's legacy, she's a storm that needs to be quelled in order to save Fontaine This is just my theory after watching this video though LOL take it with a grain of salt of course!!

@xeroxavier1464

10 ай бұрын

Isn't Egetia "first tear" the one in Liyue?

@GeminiX31

10 ай бұрын

Well damn ur theory nearly makes me think it was the official lore XD

@alexfirth21

10 ай бұрын

If this is true, you called it lol

@AruHiseki

10 ай бұрын

Furina, the emotional wreck of a tear she is...

@soullight4158

10 ай бұрын

That brings the question then why oceanids dislike her and left the region if they re said to be created by that 1st oceanid 🤔

So I have a theory. SPOILERS FOR act 3 and 4 of the archon quest . . . . . . . . . . . . . I think Furina's "curse" is somewhat related to the Oratrice and the fact that the Gnosis is not with Furina It is a device made by the archon (who she herself doesn't even seem to know how to operate) to judge the parties involved in court. In return, the Oratrice converts the happenings in the court into energy. Then in the recent quest, Furina says something about the energy in the Oratrice as essential to help stop the prophecy (though she doesn't know how) Then in ACT 1 of the quest during Lyney's trial, we find out that a voice spoke to him that came from the Oratrice Neuvillette mentions that a part of the dragon sovereign's power serves as the basis of an archon's authority. So in other words, could the "archon's authority" refer to the Gnosis and so it has a part of the dragon's power? So hear me out, what if the thing that's powering the Oratrice is the Hydro Gnosis and was placed there by Focalors/Furina when the machine was made so it can act as a way to supply power and prepare for the upcoming prophecy. Perhaps to make sure the Oratrice would continue collecting energy while also making the sentences in court, Focalors split herself, half being the Furina we see today who's more carefree and the other within the Oratrice who's more likely to have the more serious persona of an archon. This could also explaim how the Oratrice could also manage to give out accurate sentences and have the final say in who's guilty or not. Because of the working power of both the gnosis and the archon

@res6148

10 ай бұрын

I thought it was implied or at least heavily hinted at that the “Usurper-king” took a chunk of the dragons powers and put it in the gnosis for the archons.

@dirdhapawitra7445

10 ай бұрын

If it was accurate then why did the oratrice made childe guilty?

@itsasecret9106

10 ай бұрын

@@dirdhapawitra7445 ok you make a point, but now that I think of it, it could be because Childe could be somewhat related to the plan to prepare for the prophecy. SPOILERS FOR ACT 4 OF THE QUEST AHEAD: Throughout the flashbacks we experienced in Childe's perspective, we see him following some sort of "call". Then we know afterwards that Childe has somehow found himself in the place where that whale is. When Freminet tried to follow in Childe's traps, he wounded up in a place where not only was it a dead end, but there's primordial sea water. So I'm gonna assume that that's how Childe went "missing" and wounded up in the primordial sea. The question I now have is why was the whale calling to him and is he wounding up in the primordial sea related to preparing for the prophecy? If so, them perhaps Focalors/the voice within the Oratrice knows Childe's connection to the whale and thought he would be the catalyst for the plan to begin? Honestly can't wait for the archon quest in 4.2 to answer my questions so for now this is all just a theory.

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

Arlecchino _did_ ask whether furina or someone else was amassing an enormous amount of Indemnitium within the Oratrice in order to combat the prophecy. Lots of people speculate it is the “other” furina. All in all the Oratrice will definitely be the center focus of act 5.

@phase1254

10 ай бұрын

Focalor in Oratrice? Wow that make sense if she is in there. What if the reason why Childe is declares guilty in the court is Focalor sent him he is the key of stopping propecy? Because the whale (Possibility the one with Childe when he was young) are connected to it. That explains that both are in the primoridal sea area

In neuvillettes story quest furina leaves neuvillette a latter wich i would recommend to read in neuvillettes quest or finded on KZread

@r.d.6290

10 ай бұрын

*Letter

Do we know when Neuvilette arrived in Fontaine? From his story quest it seems he only came 400 years ago since the people barely had faith in him as a Chief Justice, placing the timeline to be after the cataclysm and Egeria's death

@res6148

10 ай бұрын

He could’ve been around for much longer but that is at least part of the current timeline

@astridmustikasyamsuri6207

10 ай бұрын

pretty sure he only know furina because he never really mention of egeria so yeah he is pretty young, even younger than furina I guess

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

His appointment as Chief Justice still eludes me. He was given the position to preside over trials & happenings of the Court as a part of his “task”. From the voicelines his task was likely given by Calm Furina. It’s quite strange to me to put an “outsider” in a high position before they set foot on the nation so Neuvillette must’ve known the person (Furina/???) beforehand. There is a chance he might’ve known Egeria too since we don’t know when he was reborn but since he brought the Melusines & became Chief Justice 100 years after the Cataclysm leads me to believe it’s Focalors

Looking forward to the upcoming story to piece together all the puzzle pieces of Fontaine’s story :D

Somehow I think, that the Furina we see is an oceanid, that took Archons appearance. The real Archon is probably tightly connected to the Oratrice Mechanise d'Analyse Cardinale. Maybe even inside the mechanism, as Lyney told us, he heard the voice while investigating...

It would be dope if consciousness of Egeria in her puddle would talk to Neuvillette and Furina

@AllBackToOne

10 ай бұрын

Neuvillette and Furina would be on a pilgrim to Vourukasha oasis in the Realm of Farakhkert, Sumeru. Perticularly, the Amrita Pool. That is where the remain of Egeria is (also known as Lord of Amrita). Then they will have to visit the Pari, particularly Pari elder Zurvan, to dig the story of how Egeria fought and died.

@astridmustikasyamsuri6207

10 ай бұрын

bro she's a giant tree now, her consciousness is in Harvisptokhm while the pool of amrita is her "bodily" remain

@Scatterblades

10 ай бұрын

​@@AllBackToOnebring Neuvillette to desert? He will complain about attempted assassination all the time then.. 😂

Furina might just be the physical vessel of the Hydro Gnosis kinda like a vault. So Nuevillette and Furina have to complete the puzzle given to them by Egeria to get the Hydro Gnosis locked inside Furina. This isnt the first time we have seen this happen. Guizhong left the Memory of Dust for Zhongli to unlock and gain the knowledge she possessed, Makoto left behind a part of her for Ei to find it and plant the sacred sakura and Rukkadevata left behind clues for Nahida to find her and save Irmensul. Remember that Arlecchino said that Furina is incomplete and Nuevillette also says that he doesnt possess all his powers. Perhaps the final destiny of Furina is to return the powers of the Hydro Dragon by taking out the Gnosis that has been lost for 500 years while she also gaining the memories of her predecessor by doing so and finally achieving the godhood that she lacked.

I have a hunch, something that hasn’t been suggested as far as I know: is it slightly possible that the gnosis can’t be found because it IS the WATER of Fontaine? During the mission we are told repeatedly (or at least I felt it was that way when I played the quests) that water, as we all know, can change form and adapts to its container. What better way to keep it secure other than to have it in a different way, a form so huge and difficult to steal compared to a chess piece that it wouldn’t be the first option a fatui would think of getting??

@kesdasan3603

10 ай бұрын

Woah... so her archon status (Gnosis) is what destroys Fontaine 🤯

@alexfirth21

10 ай бұрын

You can dive and breathe Fontaine water, this makes sense.

14:10 I never knew that Egeria tamed this Dragon Sovereign of Water!

I think the little line at the begining Aru says "People respect the Iudex more than the Archon" but I think what people revere the most in that nation is not Iudex either its Oratrice Mecanique d'Analyse Cardinale and that will play a role in the story

I saw the leaked gameplay footage of Furina, and her hair and outfit slightly changes when she changes form. My crack theory is that the Hydro Archon was actually three in one body. So during the calamity, Egeria split herself from the main body. Yhat would explain the memories Neuvillette hears, the Hydro Archon of Neuvillette's memories is far more confident than Furina, and they sound the same. That would also explain why the Amrita pool is specifically the preserved consciousness of Egeria, but not her body. That also explains the 3 thrones found in the Fontaine arena. When Egeria died, their power was gravely diminished, and the second personality isbin the oratrice, gatherIng indemnitium

@skyden4637

10 ай бұрын

This theory, while good, doesn’t seem like it would work Venti and Zhongli lot twist was them being the archon which was predictable so Hoyoverse made it different with every region Ei was a twin archon and made a pippet tke over for her. Very Unique Kusanali is a branch off of the former god, like a seed. Very Unique Furina being one part of Egeria? Thats basically exactly the Kusanali twist with Furina. Its far more likely that she is cursed in some form like Arrlecchino speculates, not to mention the serious Furina voice is likely her considering the first time that Neuvillette “dwells among humanity” is 400 years ago thus meaning Furina WOULD have been the archon by then and WOULD have been able to say that to him.

@kesdasan3603

10 ай бұрын

​@@skyden4637why not amnesia?? In Alhaitham's story quest it is implied that a person can intentionally "delete" part of their memories, so instead of another "Furina", the one we see now is the one and only Archon?? In sumeru she sacrificed a chunk of powers to save it from the hidden knowledge and the abyss, which resulted in her Amnesia. Having no memory of who she is... the legend of her losing her memories later became her losing her conscious. Her sudden bursts of confidence could be the result of her knowing she's the archon, but not necessarily know what to do about it

@mandyred1

10 ай бұрын

This would work, if egeria didn't have her own own VA, we do hear her talk on the final feast PV and she has a different voice from furina. Personally, I do think furina split herself into furina/focalors and focalors is the one guarding the oratrice, furina is the spokeperson with no actual divinity. But the three thrones are indeed interesting, maybe its one for egeria, one for focalors and one for neuvillette? After all, neuvi became the iudex 400 years ago, that does not mean he can be older than that, maybe he was born and he spend hundreds of years by himself (bc why would a sovereign, a race that was basically exiled, mingle with the people that were created by the one who did so?) So he was approached by egeria or furina, probably bc they knew he was capable of stopping the prophecy (if he has his full powers) BUT again, why would a sovereign help the creation of his enemy?? That's why focalors tells him to interact with humanity, see that they are not so bad and that they arw worth saving, basically make him love humanity, so when the "judgement" day comes he can freely decide if he wants to stop the prophecy. This also benefits him bc it helps him answer the questions he was about himself, so he accepts the deal. He does mention that the reason he does his job is bc he has "promises" to fullfil.

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

It is likely focalors/furina came from egeria but not as a split personality. I think it’s like the case between rukkhadevata & kusanali where they are made from the same thing but are their own person. It explains why Egeria has a different voice actor than Furina and the voice Neuvillette recalled from the past is a ‘different’ Furina.

Furina & Neuvillette relationship is actually similar to how zhongli & azhdaha and also venti & dvalin situation, neuvi is a dragon furina took in, as a god of justice she maybe realize that the dragon been treated unjust and so she share her power & governance with neuvillette. But since she is an heavenly envoy, she need to act like one too, thus she create the oratrice, maybe powered by her gnosis and she split her consciousness to act like the oratrice's AI (lyney mention to hear voice from the oratrice) like how oceanid do stuffs For neuvillette to ascend to full dragonhood, furina need to abdicate & abolish archon system in fontaine, she need to gave back the power of elemental sovereignty to neuvillette, at a cost, maybe, either she will manage to merge back with herself in the oratrice or the one in the oratrice shall be sacrificed along with the gnosis

In 4.1 they showed that Furina didnt have the Gnosis and Neuvillette didn't confirm that he had it as it would be a little to easy to be like Yae having the elctron one. But I believe that the Oratrice houses the Gnosis if it still even exists or wasn't hidden by the first Hydro Archon.

Please come back to my comment if I’m correct in 4.2 - I think Egiria created furina or furina is one of many being of water created to replace/transcend to god hood. But furina is cursed or has a blockage that doesn’t allow her to access her full godhood/the gnosis, so when arrelchino says “she’s not the true hydro archon” and nuevillete doesn’t comment it’s because she is but she isn’t. If this makes sense

@KySOLO524

10 ай бұрын

hm it does definitely going back to this comment once 4.2 is out if your correct

Despite it being an interesting theory, after playing 4.1 I don't believe that Furina and Neuvillette are brothers, but if it turns out that they really are, then that raises a series of very questionable scenarios about their past, starting with why they would separate them? since we know that Neuvillette does not understand the human world and has never lived in it until Furina took him to Fontain 400 years ago. The other thing would be the fact of who separated them, Egeria? because if it was her then the previous hydro archon would be a rather questionable goddess of justice. Besides, there is the fact that Furina is very interested in him learning to be more human than Dragon, and wants to make him a kind of hero for the people of Fontain while she is simply the Fun Pet.

@chrisanonym3473

10 ай бұрын

We don't know for sure if Furina is the one who bring Neuvillette to Fontaine.

@yairiscapellan4874

10 ай бұрын

@@chrisanonym3473 In fact, if it was her, if you did the Narcizekroizt Ordo quest and found the lost pages, you can get a chronology showing that after the Cataclysm, the Death of Egeria and the Rise of Furina, Neuvillette is not mentioned. He only appears in the records when the Opera of the Epiclesis and the Oratrice were established by Furina, there is even a note that mentions the subject of "the New Iudex" which was reforming the Laws of the Nation, this being Neuvillette. Also, if you did his Quest, only the post-cataclysm events are shown and not before. So yes, I believe it was Furina who brought him to the Court of Fontain and not Egeria.

@yairiscapellan4874

10 ай бұрын

Basically first the cataclysm occurs, Elynas attacks Fontain, Egeria Dies, Khaenria is destroyed, Furina Becomes Archon, Fontain enters a state of Crisis, Jakov and Rene create the Order Nazisenkoirts, the Fontain science institute is founded, the Order Narzisenkroits is dismantled, Allain Gillotine builds the Opera and Furina the Oratrice, Neuvillette appears as Iudex in Fontain, a series of reforms begin in the judicial system and finally the Melusines are admitted to the Court of Fontain.

@see0707

10 ай бұрын

​@@yairiscapellan4874this makes Furina even more impressive as she somehow found the Hydro Dragon and not just that, convinced him to work in Fontaine under her

@yairiscapellan4874

10 ай бұрын

@@see0707 and not only that, it also makes the whole question of why she built the Oratrice for the verdicts of the Trials even more mysterious. Also in 4.0 it is mentioned that Furina traveled throughout Teyvat looking for answers to avoid the Prophecy or have a Plan to save Fontain. What makes her even more impressive is that, despite her personality, she really is an Archon capable of doing things. Until now, only she and Venti managed to convince a Dragon to Protect Humans, because although Zhongli managed to convince Azdaha, he ultimately lost his memory and ended up sealed. That's why I think his relationship with Neuvillette is much more interesting than just saying "Egeria did it." I feel that the story of both characters (Furina and Neuvillette) are more interconnected than meets the eye.

(*I've only played 4.0 and 4.1 AQ and the Narzissenkreuz quest lines in the former, so no spoilers on other stuff please*) . . . . All this stuff about Oceanids we've been learning since the Idyia summer event (and btw, I just noticed that both her and Furina have the "mascot" title given to them) and now with the quests we got, has given my mind a lot of ammo to just cook up ideas, not gonna lie. From "Furina is an Oceanid stand-in for the actual Archon in the Oratrice" to "She's the 'Ann' to the Egeria's 'Mary-Ann' and was able to divide herself because 'water'", y'know, stuff like that. But in terms of what this video is about, that is to say, the conundrum left to both Neuvillette and Furina about 'Justice', I have my own idea as well. Take in mind, this is just a headcanon of mine...but since the video mentioned Egeria shedding her first tear in sympathy for the dragons, and Hydro Archon herself's ideal is "Justice" what if the archon meant for Neuvillette, this generation's hydro dragon to judge and to declare his own 'justice' towards 'humanity', who (through the Primordial One) basically ousted the dragon sovereigns original rule? Maybe by letting him reside among humans, to know their sorrows and joys, he can then form his own answer. (Feel free to correct me on the primordial one stuff btw, since I mostly learned them through lore videos) As for the prophecy, the primordial waters and the 'original sin'. Yeah, I don't think I can piece off a coherent speculation right now, mostly because we've been given a lot of ideas regarding them. Maybe the Hydro Archon thought 'humanity' itself is the original sin and therefore liable to dissolve? But then that doesn't explain why only Fontainians can dissolve when supposedly a lot of living beings were born from the Primordial Sea. And then there's also the idea that maybe 'dissolving' into the waters may also possibly feel more like a homecoming than the 'end'? (based on what the guard and Oceanid said about it). But then there was also the mind meld situation with the serial disappearances victims and how they formed as one, and how the Book of Revelations mentions that you can lose your individual 'personality' after dissolving (makes sense) and oh, they can gain knowledge and stuff through absorbing more water beings or something like that? (reminded me of what happened in Golden Slumber, tbh) I dunno, man.

Plot Twist - Oceanieds Came From The Original Hydro Dragon Sovereign

I was waiting for this ❤

yesterday there has been an update and the leak that said furina will retire as an archon has been abolished by the leaker

@arnowisp6244

10 ай бұрын

Praise her Purity! Praise her Purity!

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

I don’t understand people treating leaks as facts. They could be false/subject to change/missing context.

Neuvillette is the hydro dragon sovereign(Well incarnation of the sovereign) I mean the stacks he gains from reactions using his charge attack are called "Past Draconic Glory", His constellation being a Leviathan called "Leviathan Judicator" as well as one of his idol animations is it raining and then him stopping it you know cuz he's feeling depressed "hydro dragon, hydro dragon, don't cry" that happens twice in his character story

Im led here by the algorithm and I cant be any more glad since you singlehandedly made me excited of the 4.2 Archon Quest after a...meh act 3 and 4, in my opinion only

@451zen

10 ай бұрын

Agreed, was meh overall but had its hype moments at the end of act 4

10:45 in the narzissenkreuz adventure world quest, we debated whether the narcissus is a dragon or an oceanid. Oceanids and dragons in genshin are inspired by sea slugs. Perhaps they're closely related? Or maybe in the same classification?

Wonder if Furina is trying to give back the "Primordial Hydro power" to Neuvillette, to forfeit her title of Archon for she sees him more worthy to protect Fontaine than herself.

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

That’ll certainly be a ballsy move and something Celestia would definitely disapprove

@kiriekurashiki1028

10 ай бұрын

Are you trying to make Furina the coolest Archon, just to spite Celestia?

@Scatterblades

10 ай бұрын

Celestia : This new hydro archon needs spanking

Gotta give credit to Egeria, she managed to guide Neuvillette, the reincarnation of the Hydro Dragon Sovereign, and gave him a purpose in mingling with the humanity. And no, Neuvillette is not an oceanid. He is the reincarnated Hydro Dragon Sovereign, in which the Enkanomiya book lore stated that the hydro dragon sovereign must be reincarnated from the purest element and he will be in the form of human. Any mix between vishap and oceanid is considered as impure. And no vishap became the hydro dragon sovereign because of their impurity (which is why vishaps have electro/cryo element as well). This is similar to the oceanids in recent period, where all of them oceanid mobs will drop 'tainted water' loots when dead. As for the older period oceanids, they were created by Egeria. To the Sovereigns, creatures born from archons are most likely considered as impure since it is under the stolen authority of the 'Usurper' aka Celestia now. Remember, Neuvillette is a dragon sovereign. He has his own dragon sovereign pride moment. He refuses to be connected to Celestia and archons, and there is no way he is connected to those he deem as his sworn enemy. Neuvillette, as the purest form of water, reincarnated as the hydro dragon sovereign... and obeying the Enkanomiya prophecy, in the form of human.

@arnowisp6244

10 ай бұрын

I'll finish Exploring Enkanomiya with Neuvillette than.

@AllBackToOne

10 ай бұрын

@@arnowisp6244 would be a surprise if the vishaps suddenly bowing down to Neuvillette instead of attacking him. All praise the Lord!

@EdaCupcakey

10 ай бұрын

Egeria wasn't the one who guide him, it's Furina. It's literally her voice in his story quests

It's just a theory but what if the hydro archon( can either be Focalor's half or the deceased archon) was preparing Neuvillette to be the one who makes the verdict, not the one who states the verdict. In version 4.0, It is seen that Neuvillette only awaits the FINAL verdict from the Oratrix and is seen as a mediator, maybe Furina/Focalor will sacrifice the Oratrix or the Oratrix will be destroyed later on in the archon quest. Thus the statement "And one day when you have dwelt among humanity long enough you will be placed to bring judgment overall as a spokesperson for Fontaine's past" will make sense if Neuvillette will be the one who will potentially make the decision in terms of Fontaine's people and prophecy.

@elwynnquinslais2776

10 ай бұрын

I am more on the side that Focalors might be helping Neuvillette to become the full hydro dragon because of this line. The noun "spokesperso" and the empathasis of Fontaine's past linked with the line "I will use the past to judge the future" from Neuvillette demo makes me think in that regards. It could also be linked to "overruling" the sentence from act IV. And so judging Celestia and the gods.

@Scatterblades

10 ай бұрын

​@@elwynnquinslais2776then all she needs to do is givng neuvillette her gnosis and neuvillette will be fully awakened. but that's the same as calling catalycsm 2.0 then. but the title of act IV is Catalycsm Quicken. probably you are right after all.

I never expected Neuvilette to become this rich in terms of lore to his character, Furina is getting seemingly overshadowed by him in the fandom, I still hope though that both of them continue to be great complex characters.

@arnowisp6244

10 ай бұрын

Furina is a girlfailure. That's all she is.

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

Makes sense. Neuvillette is released this patch so naturally the emphasis will mostly be on him for being an equally important figure in Fontaine’s grand narrative. Furina’s time will come in 4.2 along with her 2nd Story Quest in the future.

Maybe she has two side person or what i found that was interesting it that during her talk with the i forgot her name but she try to attack furina it seems like when you talk about her people in her city she get angry and talk back but when it about her it seems like she have no more confidence the thing is in power and fighting mental confidence is a important thing maybe that why she act so like idk how to say but in deep down she really scared like she need people to follow her to her meeting and not go alone she kinda use law to duel with us not in a real fight as she scared of it so maybe it is cuz of that she may look weak but then if the hydro dragon can live for longer then 800 years then he must have been following furina for year snd it seems like furins does care abour him and during his quest in finsl we hear her voice talking about him and his duty it was also mentioned when you look at what furina say in the paper and it match the meaning of what she say telling him to go outside and learn about them matching the paper snd the cutscenes word this is a proof that she is a archon

Hello!! Where can we find the excerpt? I tried to look but did not find it 😭

@Aru Hiseki good theory but it's been shown that neuvillette is the reincarnated hydro dragon and likely looks human because *SPOILERS* He has had most of his power taken from him since Gnosis have been revealed to be the authority of the dragon sovereigns greatly weakening them and robbing them of their full dragonhood. And if you get neuvilette to lvl 90 he says that now that he has gained his authority back he can return to his true dragon form among other VERY interesting things.

Did you not do the new quest where it is revealed he is the Hydro Dragon? He admits it in his story quest.

I think Furina is the duke of hell and the story is much much darker than people commonly believe. Fontaine's fate is just one example of a damned civilization and the memory of that civilization was that it was eventually drowned by experimenting on Primordial water. See in Genshin not only people are cursed, entire civilizations are as well. The Irminsul recreates the memories of what happened is sort of like hell is described - so the atrocities are never forgotten. Furina knowingly or not is a commander or in Genshin the conductor if you so will to keep the show going. Egeria created the Oractrice to prove to the gods that they can change as a people. Now you could argue that the entire world is a dream and nothing therefore matters. While this is what the Fatui commonly believe it is not that simple. Irminsul that is connected to the Abyss which I believe is the Heaven possesses the ability to turn dreams and memories into a physical tangent reality. This is what happens when Irminsul transmutes from thin air artifacts and other objects inside Domains. The energy used for that is called fragile resin, depicted by a crescent moon which is another story. However if Irminsul get's destroyed the entire world of Theyvat seizes to exist this is what the Archon War was about. See the Abyss previously established is Heaven recognizes that the sin comes from humans and that Irminsul is the key to eliminate that threat - the more sin committed the stronger the Abyss becomes while this is true it is not it's true nature and therefore not something it strives for. Khaenri'ah, a Godless nation, experimented upon Irminsuls power and found a way to create beings almost like they were gods themselves. Essentially humans make the Abyss stronger the very threat they are trying to protect themselves against. This was I believe the gravest sin humans have committed in the eyes of gods. Irminsul was put there to keep them remembering and atone for past sin. For them to use that to instead fight back is unthinkable. Heavenly Princples were awaken sent down celestial nails to cleanse Theyvat of abyssal corruption a curse was put on the Khaenri'ahns to live forever and watch there loved ones die over and over.

@kiriekurashiki1028

10 ай бұрын

You had me until you said Egeria made the Oratrice which is objectively false

@alexanderericson8628

10 ай бұрын

@@kiriekurashiki1028 Not if Furina is a part of Egeria it's not. You didn't think about that did you

@alexanderericson8628

10 ай бұрын

@@kiriekurashiki1028 "The power of water is it's ability to take any shape" - Rhodiea of Loch

@kiriekurashiki1028

10 ай бұрын

Actually I did and that would be the same plot twist that Rukka had with Kusanali and basically Makto and Ei's plot twist MHYverse wouldn't use the same plot twist yet again@@alexanderericson8628

I think neuvilette at the end will be some kind of lawyer for people of fontaine. It seem like there is something happened between hydro sovereign, focalors and primordial sea whale. It ended up with fontaine people get 'original sin' or some kind of curse to be melted when touch primordial water and somehow focalors lost her power. Primordial whale will promise to come again to drown the whole fontaine and its people. At the same time hydro sovereign maybe tried to fight the whale but badly injured so to protect itself focalors made request to protect fontaine, this made the dragon become human or neuvilette we know and focalors wish neuvilette to be spokeperson to primordial whale to defend people of fontaine that human isnt bad or something.

I want a cookie now.

@HappylilEef

10 ай бұрын

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@AntiWokeXR

10 ай бұрын

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@Jay0454

10 ай бұрын

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@sath43

10 ай бұрын

Thanks

I don’t know if someone pointed out that the gnosis may have been in the hands of Childe already. That’s why the oratrice charged him as guilty. He left his vision with MC (still arguing to myself if that is his real vision or that’s the gnosis already.) Childe may have more stories to tell than what we know. If the vision he left has parts of his consciousness (and is really is his vision), then he might have a plan different to what the Fatui has (maybe why Arlecchino is pushing to find him). If the vision he left was the gnosis (took out the vision’s form) he stole from Fontaine itself, then he is in real danger. MC and the rest should take caution since one of the two Fatui is out to get that gnosis…

Might be unrelated but I feel like that furina is constantly using her power on the oratice that could explain why her hair is looks like it’s constantly glowing. But if the gnosis is the thing that is really powering the oratice then why does furina hair constantly glowing? I haven’t done the archon quest so I may be wrong Edit: so I don’t think her hair is constantly glowing on her drip marketing and some scenes her hair is not glowing which is interesting. Also in her drip marketing she is not wearing a “vision” and she is wearing it in her splash art. Edit2: so after the leaks came out i can say when she is wearing the “vision” she is just in her pneuma form but in ousia her hair is glowing

Wasn't the update released last week? I thought he would have already known that Neuivillete was the hydro. Dragon. But then again, He could have just made it before

My guy, it's literally been confirmed a week ago that he's the hydro dragon sovereign 😅

I just want Furina and Sigewinne 😊❤

I dont see that "bratty" crap like others so....

Why release the video now, in 4.1, talking about events of 4.0? A bit late, IMHO

@TheGeekyRedMage

10 ай бұрын

Making videos can take time. Can't exactly blame them. I rather the video be "late" than rushed and not done as well as it could, or even not released at all even when significant work has been done already. And tbh, I think it's silly to act like there should be a "deadline" for what kinds of videos should be released for bloody theories on a video game. The YT algorithm already makes things stressful, acting like a video being a little "late" because a lot of what is in the video has been confirmed/de-confirmed now is just unneeded stress. And I mean, this is talking about 4.1, just the trailer and Neuvillette's teaser.

In that scene it wasn't Furina talking, it was the previous hydro archon. Watch that scene outside of English to make that obvious

It not easy for being bias for Neuvillette reason simple not to have fav on one side and exploit the loop hole and blackmail him. Just like those energy/vision either good or bad it depend on the person abuse their powers or not. To able to judge for 400 years is hard work without any emotion but still have emotion when playing the case. But it not easy job.

lol taking the world from dragons just to rely on them to save the world :S thats weird :S

Are you sure the words displayed during the cutscene of Neuvillette were Furina's. I thought they were Egeria's, since the way Furina behaves I don't think she could say something like this....😅

@1swagevilregalallen479

10 ай бұрын

Eegira has a different VA like from the final feast trailer

@ToscaTee

10 ай бұрын

Sounds closer to Furina if you compare it to Egeria’s VA

@siren4641

10 ай бұрын

“Furina’s behave” this is where you wrong, most of it was just an act, we don’t even know the real her

@amitsamad2378

10 ай бұрын

I am waiting for the grand reveal too....that was just my initial reaction.

Wait a second, you are wrong about Remuria. It was post-Enkanomiya, so it fall within the era of the Archon war.

I think Neuvilette is autistic and he and Furina are friends at least and secret lovers at most

Why are we acting like it's not confirmed that he's the sovereign?

Neuvillete and furina are lovers

@amberxv4777

10 ай бұрын

You know this would 100% be the case if HyV weren't so afraid of their simps

What i think furina is not archon alon she and nuvellet are archon you know why justice alway have 2 parts even sticker and logo ⚖️ have 2 part that why this tow have same clothes hair color even ther design are super similar that why i think neuvillette and furina are both archon together.

Wait what if farina IS the first oceanid?

Neuvillete confirm's he is the descendant hydro dragon sovereign while archon quest act 4 .bruh are you really playing quest before make this video?😂

I think our Furina will die in 4.2 with the set up we've gotten so far but the real Furina will come out of the Oratrice.

I believe and hope that furina put half of her soul into the oratrice, along with her gnosis, which is what causes it to choose the guilty. In 4.2, the oractrice will break, causing furina to gain back her full powers, and defend fontaine or whatever lol.

Has this person even played the story yet ? Why are people still theorizing like its not confirmed he’s the sovereign of water lmao☠️☠️