The loss of OIS is pretty big for me.... All positives on the other stats but they won't matter if your photos are blurry due to camera shake

@sclogse1

6 ай бұрын

The T5 has outstanding ibis.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

Ofc, i think they might go this direction, as more and more x system cameras have ibis. Though not all of them ofc

They also have the 15-45mm which is actually as wide as the 14mm

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

They do, but it’s not an xf, but a an xc lens. This new one will be an xf lens once again.

@edc5338

6 ай бұрын

I love this lens even though it's an XC lens. It's very sharpened lightweight but has a finicky zoom feature.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

@@edc5338as far as I know the xc lenses have the same image quality as the xf, just slightly lower build quality.

@hellfiremotorvehicleclub

6 ай бұрын

@@edc5338 Yes it's annoying, but you get used to it jumping too and fro don't you. :)

@drs-Rigo-Reus

3 ай бұрын

And which is excellent for what it izzzz

I wonder how it will compare to the recently released Sigma 18-50mm f/2.8.

@lukasbenjamin_

3 ай бұрын

I’d be interested to know, let’s see :-)

Great Fuji gear based content! Subbed!👍

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Like you, I'm curious to know whether this lens will be on par with the 16-80 on their common range, or better. Let's see... release expected at next Fuji-X summit I hope.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

I would think its better, as its almost been 5 years since the 16-80 was released. I heard rumors about the next fuji X summit being on the 20th of february, maybe the wait isnt as long :-)

I sold 18-55 kit lens. I will buy used one as they can be found below 300 eur for investment, I believe prices will rise in future for this lens

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

I’d imagine they will rise a little bit, I’m not sure if they’ll outright stop selling this lens or if it just won’t be the go to kit lens though.

The current model does not resolve the 40 Mpixel sensor, according to Fuji. I hope that the next model will be improved with the 40 Mpixel sensor in mind. Last year I upgraded from my xt20 to the xt5, so the loss of the in lens image stabilisation doesn’t worry me. But if my only fuji camera would be a non-ibis model, then I wouldn’t upgrade to the new kit lens.

@lukasbenjamin_

4 ай бұрын

Yea that would be a problem, but they would be crazy not to include it.

Actually quitting from fuji and one of reasons is lenses: - there is no good one for all compact lens. We've got 16-80 - it's great, but I wish it had longer angle for the weight. Next we've got 18-135 - that's good candidate, but it's old and I had 2 of them and both suffered from lens creep and wasn't perform well and feels quite heavy for performance. Nikon have awesome 24-200 lens and it not that big, I wish fuji had something similar. Actually stick to m43 14-140 because that's just unique lens for 260 gramms of weight it perform exceptionally well. - there is a Zoo of 35mm lens but I feel unhappy with every option: one too big, second have slow motor, another with slow aperture, next one plastic. There is just no balance for me, that's options without good one. - 27mm pancake slower in equal aperture then 20mm from m43. Though Sony just released 20-70 in almost the same size and weight as fuji 16-80, should I speak that FF lens massively better (f4 on FF is way better that f4 on crop)? You can also switch to aps-c crop mode and get almost the same long angle as with fuji lens and whole your FF system will stay compact enough to compete with fuji.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

I feel like fujifilm does create impeccable lenses, but with those there is added weight and size, I think most people shoot Fuji not for the high IQ but rather for fun of shooting with their cameras. That’s my reason at least. I don’t think I would deal with their bigger, though high IQ lenses like the 50-140, 16-55 etc.

@birjub9647

5 ай бұрын

The whole point of the Fuji system is being compact and light. Lol the Nikon 24-200's weight is same as the xt5 body. There are great fujifilm lense. Now you can get sigma and tamron lenses for fujifilm too.

@arturcharaev1336

5 ай бұрын

@@birjub9647 Just take a look on weight of fuji 18-135 that is 24-200 equivalent. You will find it weight's almost the same, but Nikon is FF lens and it's has better quality. And finally f3.5-5.6 on FF is much more than 3.5-5.6 on crop. Or take any sony A7C you can have 18-135 and use your camera in crop mode to have 24-200 reach. Once I got it - I started to sell all my fuji gear.

Great informational video. My go-to lens is the 16-55 2.8. Yes, it'e heavier and does not have OIS but I use it on my IBIS X-S20 and X-T5 and it is very sharp. I imagine this lens will compete with Sigma's 16-50 2.8. It is good that Fuji is upgrading some of their lenses.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

I’ve only ever heard great things about the 16-55, but I’m not much of a pixel peeper, that’s why I don’t mind the slightly lower image quality of the 16-80 I own. I hope Fuji will upgrade some of their older prime lenses too!

@edc5338

6 ай бұрын

I own the 16-80 also. Great lens. Some lens upgrades needed because of the 40mp in the X-T5 and XH series.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

@@edc5338 oh certainly, some lenses arent even properly compatible with the 40MP huh?

This lens has 2 main drawbacks - No OIS and the lens having a f2.8-4.8 apature? how is this an update to the amazing 18-55 f2.8-f4 lens? The 18-55mm f2.8-f4 is still a better option. Sigma has a 18-55 f2.8 lens wich would be a much better option. The main reason people loved the 18-55 lens from fujifilm becase it had great spec and was built well - it has OIS, Liner motor for AF, F2.8 to f4 apature (which is amazing considering its kit). Fuji uses Liner motor for its higher priced lenses.

@lukasbenjamin_

5 ай бұрын

I agree, I think the lens has its biggest upside not extending when zooming out, this seems to be a really cool new feature, but yea also comes with its drawbacks.

@Jgheiler

5 ай бұрын

I want to like the sigma 18-50 but the fujin rendering comes out by very in my opinion. Especially in high contrast images.

Imagine doing a chat about a new 16-50 lens and not talking about the 16-50 it will replace.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

It won’t. It’ll replace the xf lens, not the xc lens :-)

If the lens does not resolve the full 40mp there seems to be little reason to buy it. Neither the 16-80 or the 18-55 is able to take full advantage of the new sensor.

@lukasbenjamin_

5 ай бұрын

Haven’t heard anything on that matter yet, but I would assume that it should resolve the 40MP.

Hmm, keine einfache Entscheidung. Ich habe die X-S10 mit dem XF 23mm F2 und dem Sigma 18-50 2.8. Vielleicht verkaufe ich das Sigma und nehme dann dafür die 50mm Festbrennweite.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

ich mag es zwar echt gerne mit primes zu fotografieren, ich würde aber komplett ohne zoom nicht auskommen.

Aperture ‘increased’…. No decreased!

@lukasbenjamin_

3 ай бұрын

:-)

Fujifilm has been pandering too much to the travel and street photography crowd recently. Surely they must realize they're popular bodies for concerts and wildlife too, especially since Nikon completely stopped making professional APS-C cameras and had a mass exodus precisely TO Fujifilm. And we still don't have a 135mm F1.8 prime or faster which is the perfect lens for concert on APS-C, the closest thing is the Samyang 135mm F2 which isn't autofocus. At least Tamron is going to make a killing on the 17-70 F2.8...

@lukasbenjamin_

5 ай бұрын

I agree in part, yes they are pandering to street and travel photographers a lot, but I think that’s a good thing, I think that’s the bigger part of fujifilm users. But I see with their latest models like the xh2s and 150-600 that they are also getting into new territory, hopefully they’ll continue down that path.

@Vinterloft

5 ай бұрын

@@lukasbenjamin_ My opinion is when you only have 5%-8% market share you can't afford to ignore 30%-40% of the users you already have. They will be frustrated and leave. A fast 135mm prime lens is a shocking ommission from an entire camera mount but in context it's even worse

@lukasbenjamin_

5 ай бұрын

@@Vinterloftyes I agree! Hopefully they’ll branch out in this segment

If it’s good I’ll trade my 15-45 XC. It should be miles better than the 16-80 though, that one is a turd.

@lukasbenjamin_

3 ай бұрын

I like the 16-80 quite a lot, but I’ve heard people having bad copies of it

I don't think Fuji makes "kit" lenses, they are proper lenses just bundled with the camera. That said for 800$ 16-80mm is quite bad optically.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

Yea the IQ of Fuji ‚kit lenses‘ is impeccable! I assume you’re from the US? Here in Germany the 16-80mm costs 650€ and you can usually get it for around 600 with some deals, if not cheaper. I think that’s a pretty good price for what you’re getting.

@josukeuchiha

6 ай бұрын

That's ~$700 still pretty bad, should be around $450-500 tbh

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

@@josukeuchihaI mean the 18-55 you’ll get for around 500€ so it makes sense the price for the 16-80 is a bit higher.

@josukeuchiha

6 ай бұрын

@@lukasbenjamin_ Idk, i don't have any money everything should be $100 :)

How will it be king compared to the 18-55mm. Not going to happen. It is F4.8 at 55mm, as compared to F4 at 55mm. It also has no OIS. The price is also going to be crazy. What are they on. I might buy another 18-55mm in case mine every breaks. Don't want this new kit lens even if it does resolve slightly better - that is not what I look for in a lens.

@lukasbenjamin_

2 ай бұрын

As far as I understand they will discontinue the 18-55 as soon as this lens comes out. But well honestly only really know once it is out.

Major disappointment the 16-50 is f4.8 and won’t have OIS… Fuji keeps making really dumb decisions with their lens releases. They sacrifice critical features just to save a few grams of weight & cm on size while other manufacturers manage to reduce the size & weight of their FF glass. And their autofocus still sucks. At this point I’m ready to switch, probably to Nikon.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

As the rumors go the lens won’t protrude anymore and therefore they had to make some drawbacks. Some people like it, some people don’t.

@Jgheiler

6 ай бұрын

I imagine it will be as big as their new xf 1.4 primes. If they can get their iq into this new zoom, that will be great.

@lukasbenjamin_

6 ай бұрын

@@Jgheiler I don’t think the image quality will be on par with the new prime lenses, but I’m hoping for something good!