Hi, I just wanted to thank you for all the videos you upload. I passed my Mod 2 yesterday and your videos have been such a valuable resource and a key part of me passing first time. Keep up the great content.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Ah thanks, that's very kind of you to let me know. I'm glad it was helpful, and well done on passing 👍😊

Can be pretty difficult to see in the wet sometimes, I avoid whenever it’s safe to, great control👌🏻 loved the little Oo 😂

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Haha thanks 😊

This is why I’m such a fan of the RAPID school of teaching, where they teach to sacrifice vision (and therefore speed) in winter/wet riding, prioritising areas with visually more grip. Nice save though remaining calm, and a good reminder!

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Hello, thanks for this. As far as I'm aware all trains of advanced thought teach this principle, which is the hierarchy of "SSV" or "safety, stability, view" from Motorcycle Roadcraft, in that order of prioritisation. I didn't expect the narrow tarmac overbanding to cause such a slip at such a slight lean angle, but every day we learn 😊

Losing the rear momentarily is a bit of fun… losing the front is never ever fun. Well done you 🙏

@motorcyclelessonsuk

4 ай бұрын

Haha I agree! Taught me a good lesson!

Back in the old days over-banding was to be avoided in the wet unless crossing was essential. These days, modern tyres are so much better we get blasé about it, but as your clip shows, still to be treated with caution in the wet. Good reminder.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Yes, a good reminder to be more cautious and adjust positioning accordingly, despite generally trusting the tyres in the wet 😬👍 Thanks for your comment 😊

Really glad you're OK, well done. Thank you for sharing.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thank you and you're welcome 😊

I hate that feeling but hey you kept upright that's the main thing well done. As always the professional. (Thanks for the comments on the cameras used also appreciated). Dale

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Yes, though I believe only chance that kept it upright 😬. You're welcome 😊

I had this on a freshly patched road (the usually fabulous biking road the B827 in Perthshire) in the dry last summer. Wasn't sure if it was my front or rear that went but it ruined the rest of my day as I initially thought it was something wrong with my tyres. I avoided the road for the rest of the season.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

It's strange how it can put the wind up us enough to knock our confidence in both tyres and ourselves. The main thing is we acknowledge the combination of human error (essentially this was avoidable) and poor circumstances. Was it a particularly hot summer day? I've known new tarmac to be be slippery on hot days.Thanks for your comment 😊

I'd hate a wobble like that I'll keep my eyes out for them from now on , I've been riding up and down the A1 in these storms and the crosswinds are terrifying.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

I'm in the process of editing a video in riding in the wind so stay tuned 😁. Thanks for the comment 😊

Well caught. 👍

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙄🤣

Thanks for sharing Leanna, I’m always learning from your videos.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for the comment, I'm glad you're finding the channel useful 😊

Blimey that was a bit hairy wasn't it? Glad I didn't have to pick you up, what with my dodgy back and all... 😂 I believe that was the day my knee pad made its way out of the bottom of my trouser leg. Thanks again for spotting that. 😂😂😅 Also a big thank you again for all the great uploads, all the lessons, patience and humour. Toppest tutors ever at Roadcraft 😊

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Ha yes! I'd forgotten all about your escaping knee armour 😂; it was a good lesson all round really wasnt it? Thanks for the kind compliments 😊

@keithbutler3743

5 ай бұрын

Ha ha it was a good lesson and there's always plenty to learn (like making sure my knee pads are in properly!) Thanks again and happy riding 😊 @@motorcyclelessonsuk

Yep! There's tarmac banding all the way up the road to my work as they've built a big industrial park nearby. It's terrifying in the wet

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Not much fun is it?!

Scary that. We get a lot of farm traffic where I live and this can mean lots of dirt and mud in position 2, meaning that you have to choose position 1 or 3 and stick with it. Changing over is butt-clenching! I’d appreciate any further advice you can give on how to handle this.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Yes, we have a road similar to that, though it's quarry slurry rather than mud. Very slippery stuff. Best advice? Do your best not to get into the situation in the first place through better planning. I didn't feel as though I had any control once it went. It was just luck that it regained grip enough to keep it upright 😬

Great save just like Marc Marquez! another great vid from Leanne Steve

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Ha thanks, I'm not sure he would've squealed quite the way I did 😂

wow well recovered.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Could've been nasty glad you managed to save it😮

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, not my finest moment 😬

@NBMoto547

5 ай бұрын

@@motorcyclelessonsuk it was better than my moment last weekend 😂

Hi Leanne, glad your ok thanks for sharing stay safe safe ride Kev

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Kev 😊

That reminds me of the over day 😂😂we had some snow down here in good old Bognor Regis and it was more like hail but it came down very quickly and covered the road I was out on my FJR and lost the front end luckily like you I didn’t come off but it does put the wind up. Stay safe. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Haha it certainly does! Not at all fun 😬

Oooh it's scary, happened once at night but took a lifetime (it seemed) to settle.. The violent shake blew my headlight and tail light bulbs 😳. Great recovery Leanna!!

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Blimey, yours must have been bad Graham! This was enough of a reminder to me to be more careful when planning my positioning.

Hi Leanna, nicely saved, well done 👍 Hope you are well 😊

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Ian. All the best for your upcoming op 👍

@iansheff

5 ай бұрын

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Thanks Leanna, hope you are keeping well 🙂

Great recovery. I would like to second the call for the council to be made aware. That has fatality written all over it.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks. Though I'm not sure what the council could do about it. It's a standard road repair, though I have no idea what the alternatives would be as I'm no road construction expert 😂

Lot of stuff on t'internet about these "tar snakes" in the USA.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Ahhhh, that's what they're called. I've always known them as "overbanding". Thanks 😊

@martinwilkinson2344

5 ай бұрын

I think they're a much bigger problem over there as I believe they use them as a quick "plug the gap" fix for cracks. I guess they also get much greater temperature variations which causes more extensive cracking.

terrible road repair, these cuts are risking lives. Thankfully you are a master rider, awesome recovery, whats your best tips to handle the dreaded front wobble ?

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Well, actually the road repair itself was a good one. The thick tar banding wasn't so helpful but I can see why they did it. As to saving the front end, I don't think there was anything but luck in it. I had no control once it went as far as I can tell. If it had been any worse I suspect I would have been off. The only thing I can suggest is not to get into that situation in the first place through better planning. Lesson learned!

@JayDutch-UK-MK

5 ай бұрын

@@motorcyclelessonsuk ah well then the tarmac seals will be avoided too going forward along with rainbow roads and all the other hazards. Glad you didnt come off. Keep up the great videos. Much appreciated.

That is one mutha of a tar snake. 😮 Caution they bite 🐍

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

😂 yes indeed!

Here on isle of man we have tramlines on promenade, I always keep wheel dead straight going over them in wet,seen a few bikes come off in t.t week on them in rain

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

That's a good comparison, I hadn't really thought of that, we also have them here in Nottingham. We tend to encourage students to cross them smoothly at an upright angle so as to keep one tyre on the tarmac while the other crosses the line. Not much fun to slip on any surface really. The ferries used to be my worry on the IOM trips, all that wet metal flooring 😬

Hi Leanna! Longtime without posting here and not enough time to watch everything properly unfortunately. I experienced it a lot of times! Here in France this kind of "decoration" are frequent, we call them "serpentine". It always has slipped for me, winter when it's wet or very cold, summer when tarmac is very hot it melt a bit and the other days just because the tier wants to rest or something. Front and rear (not at the same time or I didn't notices it) It's always surprising but I am not sure it's possible to be sent down because of that as the tire would grip again some centimeters after and because of the speed the front wheel will line up quickly. (I suppose the front brake is not grabbed because of reptilian brain and there is enough margin between the band and the outside of the road to be able to understand what happened) What do you think?

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Hello, good to hear from you again! I suspect if I was unlucky enough for the slip of the tyre to be slightly longer there would be an increased chance of coming off. This was certainly scary enough for me to be more careful in planning position changes in future, because once you're in that wobble it certainly doesn't feel like you have any control over whether it stays upright or not 🙄

@FlohwAMotohw

5 ай бұрын

Yes, it's scary and always preferable to avoid these things! Take care! 🙂

That was a big jump scare.

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

🙄😬😅

Well held glad ur ok 😅 Holy sh#t 👍👍🫥💩

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

😂 thanks Craig

Good save Hope your ok

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

Your video editing is as good as your riding "...'kin slippery" 🤣

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 Sometimes I'm just trying to edit out mumbled words, sniffing, noise, or simply moments where I'm not talking 😂

well recovered how was the heart rate afterwards

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

Haha, elevated I think! 😂

Ah, now for the 32 Trillion dollar question - WHAT / HOW did (or didn't) you do to handle / recover that? Forcefully steer in a direction (which direction), or relax grip? Reason I ask: I was (almost) set to go and get my learners permit in Australia, and splurge on my first ever bike (Honda XR150L), but watched a video which gave me cause to pause. A skilled / experienced rider wearing more body armour than a SWAT team, travelling around 20 km/h, slipped on some wet green slime crossing a concrete spillway, and broke her leg. It happened in the blink of an eye (recorded like your helpful vids). That it could happen to such a skilled and heavily protected rider SCARED ME. (I've never ridden a bike, but have 35 yrs driving (military trained) experience, over 700,000 km's, never (ever!) skidded a car or truck on a sealed road. Over 13+ (minor) traffic collisions - zero "at fault". Should I stick to 4 (or more) wheels?).

@motorcyclelessonsuk

3 ай бұрын

I didn't do anything to correct it. The tyre slipped on the slippery surface, then regripped. It was over in probably less than a second. The key point here is that this could have been avoided, had I decided not to change position at that exact moment. Riding a motorcycle carries risk, but there are many things we can do to avoid situations like this, so long as we continue to learn from our mistakes and are committed to being the best we can be through training to the highest standards and thereafter through focused and well planned riding. I can't advise whether you should ride a motorcycle or not, that's up to you! Thanks for your comment 😊

@OhSoddit

3 ай бұрын

@@motorcyclelessonsuk Thank you for your feedback :)

Should be illegal to leave roads like that, would the local council be held responsible for any damage and injuries caused of someone came off?

@motorcyclelessonsuk

5 ай бұрын

I doubt it. They've got to join the tarmac together somehow or we would have big pot holes to contend with 🤷‍♀️. I wouldn't put all the blame on the surface. Less grippy surface is to be expected here and there and we need to plan for it. This was a good reminder to me to be more careful and detailed with my planning 😊

@neilsatchell7049

3 ай бұрын

Hi, here in Norfolk, Norfolk County Council banned overbanding for just that reason many years ago, and I believe it is still the case due to a Norfolk County Counciler family member coming off their motorcycle on this overbanding, all we use in Norfolk is edge sealent no over banding, but will say most overbanding does or should have anti slip but again it's down to the workforce and how it's applied. But I'm glad you survived as I do enjoy your videos. It helped me pass my DAS last June only 44 years too late, but I love riding my Tracer gt+ around the Norfolk Coast. So, thank you for your help in this with your videos ❤🏍

@motorcyclelessonsuk

3 ай бұрын

@@neilsatchell7049 that's interesting! Thanks for the comment. I'm glad you're enjoying your bike and making the most of the lovely coast 😊