There are a few cases when you do need to worry about this... If you really are going to place bookshelf speakers on a bookshelf, then you don't want rear ports. Or if you're placing floorstanders in front of heavy sound absorbers or curtains, they will suck up the port output rather than reinforce it like a wall would. A rear port is more vulnerable to what's going on behind the speaker, and you need to pay attention to that.

@NAdamO-xt4ht

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I've found that it absolutely makes a difference when, for instance, I need/want my speakers to be up against a wall.

Rear ports look great from the front.

Steve, I’ve been looking at Double Impacts, Buchardt S400, Elac Uni-Fi UF5. I have the Elac Uni-Fi UB5 now. Which would you recommend over the ones I have now?

Thank you for the video ...i have been searching for an answer to this question for a long time...

I agree on where they should be placed but many don't have an option. In the past mine were almost hidden behind the TV but when the family was out of the house the speaker stands came out of the garage and the speakers were 3 feet into the room. For many people where the ports are do matter.

I need speakers bass in the front . To build in my cinemawall. Now i have speakers that have a back outlet and i cant build them in. Is there any way i can fix this ?

Are the bass frequencies being fired in the same direction regardless of port placement? Thanks

Just my opinion - For stand-mounted speakers, rear port. For shelf-mounted speakers, front port. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

@benwelsh16

4 жыл бұрын

I agree with you, and rear you can increase or decrease the bass depending on distance from the back wall, and when placed with ports aimed towards the corners of the room

@ravithompson1082

2 жыл бұрын

In some cases, if you put rear ported away from a wall with curtains, you’ll increase the bass ressonante. It depends on the rooms treatment

A front port is a necessity for me . I like to feel my flares flapping with the bass.

@colin8949

2 жыл бұрын

Good to see flares are making a come backl!

Does the size of the port matter, could you have one in front & one in back,, maybe two ports are better than one ?

Helle Steve, Are ELAC FS 58 and ELAC CC51 decent beginner speakers to set up first-ever HT system? I am thinking of pairing these with Marantz SR 5012 receiver. Will they sound good together?

Thanks, i was loosing sleep over this quandary.

so at near field and close to a wall, what would one consider an upgrade to the kef q100???!!!! These literally sit on my desk up against a wall, and I wanna try something new

This video really resolved nothing.

@wilwordsworth

5 жыл бұрын

Yup I agree. He just lists (name drops) the speakers he has listened to and has no opinion. I struggle with my main rear ported speakers as they can be too boomy. I fix it by plugging the ports with old socks. If I need more bas for a movie I switch on the sub. I'm just researching; I'll look elsewhere.

@StreamdeMenthe

3 жыл бұрын

That’s pretty much the point

@bigmacfullerton7870

5 ай бұрын

@@wilwordsworth 4 years late but I was getting the same problem until I pulled my speakers away from the wall a foot. The bass became stronger but much cleaner and tighter

@jonathandavis9507

2 ай бұрын

@@bigmacfullerton7870speakers and listening spots alike are not good when against a room boundary

My living room is narrow (about 3 meters) and long. I love the Klipsch RP-600M, but I am afraid that they wouldn't sound as good considering that I can't place them far enough from the wall. Would you recommend front ported speakers?

@ravithompson1082

2 жыл бұрын

Can you invert the position of the things in that room? I mean, twist everything 90°

I had MISSION 700'S a great sounding FRONT ported speaker from early 1979ish I loved them with their port and "Inverted driver layout" ( bass driver at the top & tweeter below)

So what about passive radiator, transmission line, bottom port, slotted front port or sealed box? And why do some speakers need to be placed further from the wall than others?

I have some B&W 685 S2s on wall mount brackets. I chose them in part because they were front port and they sound great in this configuration.

loved the way it begun... loved the humor

Thank you!

What about an up or down firing port? I have a particular design in my head that I haven't seen done before just wondering

Ports are a source of distortion. If you can add a resonance to the speaker to extend the apparent frequency response or to coincide with say, kick drum frequencies that makes for a more exciting listen that compromise may sell more speakers. You can also hear cabinet resonances coming out of the port and adding a colouration. Sometimes there is turbulence as the air pressure changes as it passes from the port into the room and back. A port done well is seamless and means you can get the so called quart out of a pint pot. The sound is bigger and delivers more volume and bandwidth. The port damps the driver by acting resistively outside its resonance frequencies. Pointing it backwards makes the speaker sound more airy and makes the imaging more vivid. It becomes harder to hear the mechanical colourations. Front porting can feel a bit like the speaker has another drive unit up front. The best ones have low port velocity and don’t tend to produce gusts of air and turbulence. Small ports have high velocity air exiting at almost all frequencies. The answer to turbulence and incoherent contributions from the port include bundles of straws or reticulated foam bungs. They narrow the resonance peak and keep some of the colourations in. The transparency of the speaker is mostly predicated on build quality and, the contribution of the port must give the appearance of extension without the problems of using a resonator in an obvious way. The right sized port might need to be out back both for sound quality or lack of available surface area. If the speaker sounds right, it is right - however, the compromises will need to reconcile well to maintain the illusion of accurate playback.

@michaelc.ateoate979

2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if you had any thoughts on Port placement for a Bluetooth portable radio keeping in mind it'll be moved around and positioned in different environments. Including open air performance IE outside.

Does it have different sound quality when you place either of these near the wall?

@martyjewell5683

4 жыл бұрын

Moving a speaker closer to a solid surface (wall) will always enhance (exaggerate?) the bass. Two walls?? Yup, more bass. Three walls?? (ie; back and side wall with floor or ceiling), sometimes waaaaay too much bass. Hate to bring this up but, room shape and size has maybe more to do with perceived sound.

What about placement of the port on the starboard.

How about bottom port or shall I say underneath such as the Italian brand chario

Well said Steve. Don't needlessly obsess over port location. Audiophiles already have innumerable other things to obsess over, needlessly .

Should the ports be left open or closed with sponge as provided with kef speakers? And what difference does it make in the sound quality?

@adotopp1865

5 жыл бұрын

Gautam. Put a sock in it!

@venturarodriguezvallejo1567

5 жыл бұрын

If after carefully locating them (following the instructions that come with the speakers and I suppose written by the designers), and, as me with the Q300, continue hearing an unnatural enhancement in the low mids, don't doubt it: close the ports with the foams. You'll hear the difference for the better. I guess the Audiophiliac will agree with me: I'm letting the designers design, and I'm using a tool the designers have provided in case their design, under some circumstances, needs a little help to obtain the best from the design. No?

For home theater subwoofers, I suggest having them on the front; If you can get them set up properly, you can feel the air from the ports during explosive effects and such.

My 2 cents comparing the B&W 705 S2s (rear ported) vs. the B&W 805 D4s (front ported). I compared them in the same location switching between the speakers multiple times while playing the same song. Here are my observations: The rear ported 705 S2s produce more room filling sound and may I say stronger bass than the 805 D4s, but the front-back sound stage (particularly vocals) become muddier and I was not sure where the singer was placed; the vocals appear to be coming from behind the line of the speakers and also above the speakers; the right-left soundstage is perfect - no effect of the rear ports on this. The 805 D4s on the other had appear to produce somewhat weaker bass (on drums - particularly the bass/kick drum), but the front-back soundstage (particularly vocals) is very clearly defined and right in front of you as if the singer is standing right in line with the speakers. The right-left sound stage is same as the 705 S2s - in the middle and perfect. I guess it is a choice between perfect soundstage and a slightly weaker bass performance. Not sure which way I am going to go yet.

Many comments on downward port. Is that also merely for design convenience?

When you say 10-12" from the wall,is that measured from the back of or the front of the speakers??

@adotopp1865

5 жыл бұрын

Simply try it out for yourself! You will find out your own personal preferences!

@martinpickard6043

5 жыл бұрын

Should be measured from rear of speaker, ie gap distance. But do try moving forward and back from this measurement to get resonance correct, otherwise you may end up with a reflecting sound wave off back wall reducing or even cancelling effect of forward sound waves! If you have a smart phone you can download an App to measure frequency response. Go online and download an audio test frequency sweep or hifi bass test signal file, burn to CD, then playback while monitoring on fone App. When signal responce is looking smooth and level from 250hz and below to your bass cutoff (cut off typically 60-20hz), ie no drop outs in between, then you got it right 😎👍

Over the years I have owned front and rear ported speakers. After much rearranging and positioning all of them ended up with socks stuffed in the ports. As soon as I can I will go back to a sealed cabinet design, this may require a new amplifier as well.

@sudd3660

5 жыл бұрын

i tried with cloth stuffed in ports as well, its actually works. especially if you got a subwoofer to compensate. a sealed box whould ofc be better.

@machintelligence

5 жыл бұрын

A new use for the phrase "put a sock in it."

@justinparkman1516

5 жыл бұрын

I'll only ever use sealed because of bass issues

@stevenswall

5 жыл бұрын

THIS. NO port is the best port. Smoother bass roll off. Supports the speaker diaphragm.

You forgot bottom port, it sounds best

@kenshiroxxx90

4 жыл бұрын

its best for subwoofer only.

Port locations affect design since it needs to be 180 degrees out-of-phase with the woofer.

@modelnutty6503

5 жыл бұрын

yup, and rear ported bouncing off walls (at proper distance) can put the back wave in phase, within its range anyway.

What if your speakers are in a recessed area (removed fireplace) wouldn't it be ideal to use front ported in that case?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

7 ай бұрын

Yes

I had some Eltax speakers that had the port in the bottom (they were bookshelf speakers with very little feet).

I really loved your video on the Horn Tweeters. Horns are actually very lively...

Front ported speakers can be put on shelves, but now the port is moving air the opposite direction as the face of the driver. Does anyone know if this matters?

How about...to port or not to port Steve? Doesn't the 2nd Gen. Elac have a front external passive radiator?

@bilguana11

5 жыл бұрын

The Adantes use front external passive radiators as part of a coupled cavity design.

I reckon front ports result in a fraction more med content cos the med from the rear of the cone may be a bit louder from a front vent as compared to a rear vent. Just a theory.

The location of the port does make a difference, although small, there is a difference. The port produces the lowest frequency a speaker is capable of playing. Depending on the depth of the speaker and proximity to the wall behind it, this can make a difference in the sound. I have a Klipsch rp440 center channel, it is about 14 inches deep, that means placing a port in the rear will mean the lower notes are generated closer to the back wall.

The back, cos from the front you get the med from the back of the driver coming out of the vent. With the vent at the back you don't hear that so much.

An observation...Andrew Jones stated that one reason he adopted the front port is that many people actually place speakers on shelves for a variety of reasons, maybe because they have bookshelves in their listening room and it’s the only practical place. Such is my case. You know, gong way back to my AR 4x’s, Dynaco A25’s etc., these speakers have for the most part have always been labeled “bookshelf” speakers. I currently have NHT classics threes, which are acoustic suspension design.

Exactly 😊... location doesn't really matter because at those frequencies where the port resonates direction isn't an issue

Help! I can't find the port on my maggies!

@RectifiedMetals

5 жыл бұрын

trains planes lmao!!! 😂

@zogzog1063

5 жыл бұрын

I can make one for you if you like.

@alanray2446

5 жыл бұрын

if you find one ,it's a big problem . lol

Ported subs, front or back?

my friend the port location makes a big difference... if the port is in the back there is less cancellation, if the port is on the side it is 90 degrees out of phase which can help with out of phase cancellation, front port has the worst cancellation if not done and tested properly, but front port couples with the speaker wave giving you a small increase in output at tuning frequency... side firing also slightly increase the output as it couples with the main driver waves.... but go outside your house and you will find out that rear firing is the best as it will reflect the bass from the wall.

S R, I agree, there seems to be a cloud over whats the right way ? its exsperimental so whats sounds good for you. (maybe wrong maybe right must be that cloud. )

Front port or rear port affects layering in soundstage. If the port is in front , left to right imaging is great but depth suffers. For rear ported speakers, apart from the imaging left to right, the depth is better. For placement of front-ported speakers getting close to the wall actually makes them sound better. Monitor Audio bookshelf speakers are a case in point. You may agree or disagree but that's my experience.

@marshallore6869

8 ай бұрын

Most bass is either centre stereo or mono tho, so stereo imaging isn't normally an issue with bass

button facing ports??

The length of the port is more important. My ports are tuned to compensate for low frequency rolloff of my 15" woofers (which happens below the driver resonance).

My DALI IKON 6 MK2 towerspeakers has 2 ports, 1 in the front and 1 on the back. So that variation also exists. They are pretty good speakers. All the way from the very articulate treble to the very deep bass. They play all kinds of music equally good. I bought them in autumn 2010 (1500 dollars) and I still love them. I'm planning on buying a new amplifier that I hope will make the DALI Ikon 6 MK2's play even better. I'm not yet sure which one I should buy. Price tag no more than 900 dollars.

I have two ported holes at the front in each speaker, that makes them special 😀

@adotopp1865

5 жыл бұрын

Wish I had 2 ports in each . I only have one 😢

So I gave my Hafler 220 amp to my nephew. And well he ask for it.So I gave it to him.he buoght the new Elac speakers. Port in the front.So wonderful.The sound. He Had the balls to ask me for that amp. He has loved it since three years of age. I gave it to him.

Nice shirt, what brand is it?

But what are ports for, though?... Is it to release any buildup of tension inside the cabinet or is it to "tune" the sound? If not both of course... I mean, kind of like front and down facing/firing subwoofers, there must be something of a difference. AND, it probably has to do with the environment. As an example, you might have heard of the Bose 301 speakers. They designed it to rely on reflections from hard surfaces and for that they added two "tweeters", one facing forward and one back, and they're sticking out on an angled baffle, on the "corner" of the cabinet. - The interesting part is, they've also put the port right behind those, also at an angle. And I'm quite convinced that any frequencies coming out there are also directed at any room-surfaces and add to the sound-strength. - Another interesting thing is that on later models they moved the port somewhere else anyway... So who knows...

My Energy C9 large tower speakers have a rear port near the top and a front port near the bottom. They definitely sound better with stronger cleaner bass at least a foot away from the wall so I just pull them out before listening to music. Whatever it is I just love these speakers.

I thought the decision behind choosing a rear or front ported speaker had to do with how close you could place the speaker to a wall. Therefore if you had to place a bookshelf speaker against a wall you would be better served with a front ported one. Am I wrong?

@zogzog1063

5 жыл бұрын

Patrick, this was my understanding too, but then I read that with some designs the rear port is preferred to be close to the back wall with a view to boosting the modest bass.

@nicolajc

5 жыл бұрын

3 minutes of video. And still nobody understands anything. That is a fail.

@joentell

5 жыл бұрын

Patrick, I think you ARE correct in your thinking.

@taichisifu734

5 жыл бұрын

That's my understanding too.

@alvarovallejos8465

5 жыл бұрын

I think he's saying neither is designed to be used close to a wall in the first place, ie non issue for him. But of course that's not the real world, and is he really considering space saving bookshelf speakers in this judgement?

I wish I could've found a discussion on the comb filter effect the port has and how using a tuned tube on the port also adds another comb filter effect of its own. I wanted to try to learn more about that idea....but not here.

port should be upfront, if its at the back its gonna create a umph right into the wall. and the neighbours wont be happy .

Nice shirt Steve ....just kinda wanted to drop that in their ..😎

"do you really care if the hole is in the front or the hole is in the back?" -man! i almost reported the video! hahaha

Sorry late here, but why no port on the sides?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

2 ай бұрын

Some TAD speakers have side ports

I like the front holes.

Transmission line??

@mikecees2230

5 жыл бұрын

???

@draganantonijevic2441

5 жыл бұрын

Mainly in the front.

@theaudiophilecorner

5 жыл бұрын

Dragan Antonijević yes I know. Just wish he would have acknowledged the port with transmission line speakers.

@draganantonijevic2441

5 жыл бұрын

''Scusa'' George Bartolo. And you are right, that's a pity... BTW, they are mainly front ported, because there are no turbulence in their tunnels (they sucks all unwelcome things), like in plastic (or no matter what) tubes in bass reflex ported speakers... there might be no turbulence if the tubes of the bass reflex ports are made from better materials with some texture and fixed in more places... like some manufacturers do... so... inter alia... ''down firing ports are the bests''.

@valtercirio3623

5 жыл бұрын

Transmission line is very goog solution,natural crossover!

i have crappy front ported house speakers that sound way better than my rear ported cerwin vegas when i play them outside.... bring them indoors and the tables turn. Port placement has a pretty big affect on how speakers sound. I made a pair of speakers and ported them out of the rear but lately i have them plugged up because the speakers really beat on the wall

It makes sence because the wave length is probably longer than 3m so the disposition of the port to the woofer is probably fairly small relative to the wave itself. Bass is not that directional either so I agree there is not much of the theoretical difference as your wavelength is in magnitudes larger than the difference in position.

@ravithompson1082

2 жыл бұрын

You need to put the measure of the wall distance on that account.

For everyone who thinks they know how ports work, please read this. ( audiojudgement.com/bass-reflex-speaker-design/ ) I have Vance Dickason's book, albeit an earlier version, along with numerous other design books, etc. and have known how ports work for many years and I cringe every time I hear or see "the port is out of phase" line. IF the the port was always out of phase, it would do nothing but cancel when front mounted and only add when rear mounted. Side mounted (that includes top and bottom) would theoretically do nothing since the phase would be 1/2 add and 1/2 subtract. As for rear firing ports, it is the combined effect of the sound (sound wave, not the mass of moving air) reflecting off the wall and recombining with the front waves of sound from the front baffle of the speaker. That little thing called phase shift due to time. That is why distance from the wall makes so much difference in how good the speaker sounds. There's a lot more to it than these few sentences. Please, pick up a design book and read it rather than rely on someone that sounds plausible on the internet. You'll enjoy your audio so much more when you get to understand it.

Kind of true, however... With a rear port, there's a potential to reinforce the bass by strategic positioning. Distance with a rear port to a wall, isn't all bad news, whereas close the distance with a front port and all you will achieve is bass boom.

I think they should be in the front... it just seems more logical to me But my JBL LOFT 50s and my JBL ES 30s are all rear ported... maybe it dident matter that much to me after all. LOL

I always just superglue cardboard over it because sealed is superior.

@KingOath

4 жыл бұрын

TheJooomes Will you design my next speakers please you are now the only person I trust

My old Kef Q standmounds had ports on the front. My LS50s have them on the back (as we all know). Now my Tannoys have their ports under the bottom!. They all sound great.

Acoustic suspension is the way to go for my taste. Okay, so I lose output for the Watts, but, I don’t have port chuff, or whatever you want to call it. I can always purchase a more powerful amplifier.

Think about the whole, not the hole!

The point of this vlog was just that the designers don't favor front or rear ports, they go back and forth as they see fit. Andrew Jones for Elac for example, moved the port from the rear of the original Debut B6 to the front of the new B6.2, and B&W designers moved the port from the front of the 685 S2 to the rear of the new 606. So apparently the designers in both cited examples saw no advantage to front or rear port placement. They use whatever works for each design. Putting most speakers up against or near a wall won't be an ideal situation. Front or rear port placement isn't that big a deal. If it was designers would never use rear ports.

@kiltymacbagpipe

5 жыл бұрын

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac Andrew Jones should have read the comments here and realized ports are always bad. You’d think he’d know best but the KZread experts disagree.

@chrish7540

5 жыл бұрын

I swear there's a video interview of Andrew Jones - might have been his last home theater geeks episode with Scott Wilkenson where he specifically mentioned with the Debut 2 he made a design decision with moving the port to the front due to questions Elac was receiving from their customers about how close they could put the original Debut to the wall. So to alleviate the feedback and concern assuming this is their most popular mass market line and audiophiles won't be putting speakers near walls he moved the port for the Debut while not doing so on Adante or Uni-fi the more high end speakers.

@joentell

5 жыл бұрын

I think you may be referring to his comment in my interview with him. kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4ZstcNpqLzbnM4.html or maybe Steve's interview with him: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o46qyqlwqbiwd8Y.html

I like the port in my wine fridge.

Steve - Your content is really good. I bet you get the YT 100K plaque this year. Here is more content ideas. Your best jazz, rock, pop, etc. recordings (not most popular but better recorded). Best systems for $300, $500, $1000, $2000 budgets. For this you'll reach most of your audience. Don't forget your Aff. links.

Who's making a big deal out of port location? My SVS have theirs in the rear but it doesn't matter, too much bass so I plugged it.

@mikeleahy5283

5 жыл бұрын

This one is like politics and religion lol, I dyi mine and have sealed, port in front and port in the rear. And I agree with Steve on this one.

Got to say it people.....hes right port location is more of a design thing from speaker manufacturers. One is not better than the other.

You can hear more bass at the opposite side of the port

i like rear ported

My inner Beavis is screaming..shush it Bevis

...in other words, IN AUDIO AS IN LIFE, "DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY" AND DON'T MESS WITH OTHERS PREFERENCES!

Front and back ports are not just about aesthetics! Imagine that speaker pushing back air into the box.. now imagine that air is going QUICKLY straight out the back port or it has to bounce a wall and then get out from the front port, which one is faster than the other? Obvious answer - back port has faster air flow than front port. Now, because air in this situation is not only air but is frequencies/sound coming out, the more time it takes to get out the more frequncies it holds there in this speaker chamber. This, without specifying which one and how exactly, is giving us differences in sound!

Front ported for me. My room is 2.3m by 2.5m , got enough issues with it without dealing with rear ports.

@chrisvinicombe9947

5 жыл бұрын

@SMOG my experience has been that port position and tuning has a marked effect on both bass and midrange preformance. Honestly massive sealed cabinets would be great if space wasn't such an issue.

@chrisvinicombe9947

5 жыл бұрын

@SMOG port chuffing is a crime against audio. I've never understood why designers would sign off a chuffing speaker. Fortunately my speakers have 3.5" wide ports with aerofoil centers and are not audible to me 😄. I've had speakers that chuff in the past. I always block the ports and just accept whatever bass and mid loss it entails.

@playonkorg

5 жыл бұрын

That space ? How long do you think a 80hz wavewould be ? Rear-front it doesnt matter. It matters that you play that frequentie for you little room

How come everyone seems to forget that there is a phasing issue as well?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

7 ай бұрын

But you remember !

Hey Steve, Andrew Jones briefly talks about why he moved the port to the front of the ELAC Debut 2.0 in your interview with him: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o46qyqlwqbiwd8Y.html He mentioned it briefly in my interview with him as well: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n4ZstcNpqLzbnM4.html

You're like Scotty Kilmer of audiophile.

@ChrisRash

3 жыл бұрын

Not enough hand motions

@jeffkelly5972

3 жыл бұрын

Rev up your speakers

Yo', Hippie Guy, you forgot to show us the fricking MONITORS of SPAKRERS are whatever you are talking about here. :-))

Why on earth would you require a minimum distance of 10-12 inches from a wall to the back of a speaker cabinet in a front ported speaker?

@botz723

4 жыл бұрын

Because you want ANY speaker as far from a wall as you can get. Try it. Has nothing to do with the port location. Yes I know this is a very old post :)

Forget about the hole, think about the whole. I like it😎

There are a lot of variables. Its not just aesthetics.

The comments about port locations are pretty funny. My Tektons have front AND rear facing ports...so both arguments are satisfied. Hahahaha.

I get why rear ported speakers need to be away from walls but what possible harm could there be by placing front ported speakers against a wall since the port and all the drivers are facing forward?

@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

3 жыл бұрын

With any box speaker, near wall placement is a no-no because the sound reflecting off the wall mucks up the imaging. The further the speaker is from the wall the higher the ratio of direct (from the speaker) vs. reflected sound from the wall. Same is true for most instruments, an acoustic guitar played very close to a wall would sound awful.

@carewser

3 жыл бұрын

@@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac that doesn't make sense, if the speakers back is against the wall, the sound isn't reflecting off anything

@angrygirl7083

2 жыл бұрын

@@carewser If you don't believe Steve then believe your ears. Put the speakers up against the wall, listen for a while, then pull them forward 3 or 4 feet. Listen again to the same track.

Port location doesn't matter at all. Wavelength at, say, 30Hz is 330(m/s) / 30 (Hz) = 11metres. So the path length difference due to location difference being less than 1 metre is negligible. Not to forget that radiation pattern at that frequency is spherical.

Now talk about if the speaker should be mounted on the front of the baffle board or the rear. You should hear the arguments from the guitar amp guys! My thought is - no significant difference.

... choosing between two sides, the main ''port'' must be in front...

@adotopp1865

5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely Dragan you are absolutely right.

It seems that the down firing ports are the bests...

@adotopp1865

5 жыл бұрын

That's interesting. what makes you say this Dragan Antonijević?

@draganantonijevic2441

5 жыл бұрын

Ado topp look at George Bartolo post ''Transmission line??''... and best speakers of some of the most renowned manufacturers: B&W 800D-802D-803D; Focal Utopia and Sopra; Elac Linie 500-400; ProAc Carbon Range K6-K8 and Response Range 18-20-30-48 etc... and 50 years of personal experience, mostly European, sorry...

@adotopp1865

5 жыл бұрын

@@draganantonijevic2441 How old are you? I'm 58 and would say I have 46 years of leaning about audio. I would never say that any port arrangement was best as there are So many different variables and types of listening

@alanray2446

5 жыл бұрын

yes sir you are correct ,,, I have found this to also be true in car audio, as well ... for really great sound down firing is the best.

@draganantonijevic2441

5 жыл бұрын

My Generation... 59 - first single in 1966, first LP in 1970 - Stones, some compilation with Very Best from 64-71 and Jumping, Gimme, Sympathy, Lady, Time... I said "it seems''... and when you heard once on of these with down firing, you do not pay any more attention on position of the port and whether you hear it or not (turbulence)... and the position of the speaker is relatively simpler, in relation to the boundaries of the room... these, only ''relatively''. Normally, and you are right, in a reproduced audio world, there can not be absolutely and untouchable (and invariably) ''the best''. Cheers!

Does nobody understand anything about acoustics? Most people don't have the proper room to fully enjoy rear ported speakers. So many manufacturers and engineers make their speakers front ported. To make it easier for the listener to achieve better sound with the room that they have. I like near field listening. Therefore I prefer a softer tweeter and a front port. I understand port turbulence. Thats why I recommend speakers with a passive radiator. If you can find them.

If professor Michio Kaku and Jimmy Page had a son, it would be Steve Guttenberg...hehe