Strategies for improving your speakers sound, for free

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The Audiophiliac's helpful hints for audiophiles!
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  • @gosolobox
    @gosolobox4 жыл бұрын

    My listening room woven rug has these really great parallel lines, which I use for measuring tow in. Very handy for insuring that both speakers are set up the same...

  • @chipstern1
    @chipstern14 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Steve. In terms of toe-in, for me, with my Meadowlark Ospreys, about four feet from the rear wall, 2-3 feet from the side wall, 6-7 feet apart from tweeter to tweeter. Recent toe-in tweaking goals involved not only fine-tuning the center image, but making left and right speakers angled so the axis is such that they are not so point source...where one is less conscious of images emanating directly from a speaker, but as part of a more complex sound stage, where it is not so much a case of the speakers disappearing, as the room itself dropping away....where what remains is a complex and convincing acoustic venue.

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis6494 жыл бұрын

    This channel should be on television:) Love this guy.

  • @matthewwright4458
    @matthewwright44584 жыл бұрын

    Hey Steve - I brought my speakers further into the room and toed them to in front of the listening position. The change is stunning. Thank you!

  • @briansimmons5363
    @briansimmons53634 жыл бұрын

    Steve, I hope people take your advice here. I spend a few hours playing with toe in with my Elac UB5s and I can tell you this for sure made more of an improvement in imaging or sound staging than any component upgrade I would say. Time so well spent to extract the best performance of this speaker. Settled on 32" from the wall, toed in so they cross about 2' behind my head, not directly facing at me. Sound stage kinda guy and this change made it open up in width with great focus in the center stage. Such a significant improvement.

  • @briansimmons5363

    @briansimmons5363

    4 жыл бұрын

    And on 28" Pangea sand filled stands putting tweeter at about ear level.

  • @rolandrohde

    @rolandrohde

    4 жыл бұрын

    The UB5s are particularly sensitive to toe-in.

  • @dilbyjones

    @dilbyjones

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@rolandrohde I would think so.

  • @BadMonkeyFinger_Audio

    @BadMonkeyFinger_Audio

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yup! Setup/ placement is definitely key in extracting the most from what you have. I slowly realized this in my 35+ year hi-fi journey... It's not all about $$ spent on gear; it's about how careful you can be to extract its best performance. I used to spend HOURS and HOURS on it - particularly when I had only one system. Now that I have several, I have to mark my floors with tape for each of my pairs! lol (I don't want to forget the exact spot of one, when I swap it out for another).

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    I run two pairs at once, one aimed directly at me and one angled slightly outward. The direct pair is set back and closer together than the front pair. Seems to work pretty well. I get focus plus ambience.

  • @jamesdennis6274
    @jamesdennis62744 жыл бұрын

    I did this over a year ago, I've not looked back. Best tips ever. I use them for my music and my tv. The sound is 👌 Thank you 😁👍

  • @jazzman1626

    @jazzman1626

    4 жыл бұрын

    I also use mine for the tv. I’ve had my speakers toed in for 3 or 4 years now. When I connected the tv to the speakers, it was then that I noticed how perfectly focused they are in the centre. The speakers disappeared and it sounds like the sound comes from the tv and are far better than tv speakers. Sounds superb.

  • @jamesdennis6274

    @jamesdennis6274

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jazzman1626 That's exactly how I feel. It makes the experience so much more immersive. Forget soundbars.

  • @rizalahmad4207
    @rizalahmad42074 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the tips! This is soo helpful.

  • @MrPeeBeeDeeBee
    @MrPeeBeeDeeBee4 жыл бұрын

    Having your speakers asymetrical in relation to room works wonders too... especially for those annoying standing waves in the bass frequencies. I always use this technique because it works.

  • @RickMahoney2013
    @RickMahoney20134 жыл бұрын

    Steve when will we see your top audio items of the 2019 year,looking forward to seeing what you recommend.

  • @monsterjazzlicks
    @monsterjazzlicks4 жыл бұрын

    Good and simple way of explaining the process! Thanks.

  • @nasskhan4543
    @nasskhan45434 жыл бұрын

    Great video Steve. One of your best. When a potential improvement costs nothing you gotta give it a try .

  • @iwokeupforthis
    @iwokeupforthis4 жыл бұрын

    Listen to Steve! I knew the importance of playing with speaker placement, but Steve's reminder made me think of repositioning my KEF LS50s. I thought the soundstage was OK, but after about 2 hours of experimenting i found placing them about 4' from the back wall and 8' apart, toed in to a point about 1' behind my head yielded remarkable results. Here's the test that I use: with the placement I just described, the speakers disappear. I can actually stare at each speaker and the sound does not seem to emanate from that speaker, but from a broader soundstage between each speaker, even when turning my head right and left, and yet the imaging remains pinpoint and accurate. So that's the test that works for me, having the speakers "disappear" means they are correctly spaced.

  • @ej732
    @ej7324 жыл бұрын

    Played around with my klipsh 280F’s, they definitely sound better toed in and a couple feet from any wall. Thanks for the input.

  • @jlmain5777
    @jlmain57774 жыл бұрын

    Nice tips. Most excellent drawings Steve.

  • @WTJ3405
    @WTJ34054 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Steve!! Redid my Linton 85th Anniversary edition. They weren’t sounding bad before but after reading Herb’s setup arrangement when he reviewed them and starting there, a few inches here and there later and they are so much better!! Thanks for sharing so generously your knowledge with all of us out here!! Be well.

  • @-syN
    @-syN4 жыл бұрын

    Steve you read my mind by making this video. This is something I thought about the other day, but had no idea how to recommend/ask you directly. So nice to hear your voice over my brand new Klipsch RP-600M speakers which was only made possible because of you!

  • @stevemiller9480
    @stevemiller94804 жыл бұрын

    Great advice Steve! Thank you.

  • @DjClimamusic
    @DjClimamusic4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Steve for the information! Thumbs up! :)

  • @brydon10
    @brydon104 жыл бұрын

    I finally got around to getting my speakers out from the wall and setup in a triangle (Required a lot more width between the speakers than I thought!) and the speakers pointing towards me. ~ 8 feet apart and I sat 8 feet away from them. It pretty much blew my mind. Huge soundstage, more accurate frequency response, awesome imaging, smoother bass. Listening with the speakers back up against the wall and close together just doesn't cut it anymore at all.

  • @sam66hazmal
    @sam66hazmal4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video Steve, it’s such an effective tweak that can result in huge benefits. I use Rega speakers which have a mid bass driver in the side of the speakers. It provides multiple options for speaker placement. ie mid bass facing in or facing outwards etc , besides all the options for toeing in or straight on , distance from rear and side walls etc. But it’s also a fun thing to work with the placement, using some favourite music or suitable tracks etc. Thanks again I enjoy your videos

  • @Aswaguespack
    @Aswaguespack4 жыл бұрын

    For Steve’s Shirt Collection every day is New Year’s Eve😂

  • @Splenda257

    @Splenda257

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lowed, like the music.

  • @AudioElectronicsChicago

    @AudioElectronicsChicago

    4 жыл бұрын

    I suggested him to start a channel for the shirts or to make a video and show us all his shirts 😅

  • @Aswaguespack

    @Aswaguespack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Audio Electronics I would also be interested in that as well. 👍🏻

  • @nanao1267

    @nanao1267

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most of the shirts are Africa Tye and dye or batik materials.Some of the shirts has symbols has a deep meanings.I am willing to get him more for free but he doesn’t reply.Happy new year people.

  • @steelydanfan100

    @steelydanfan100

    4 жыл бұрын

    He’s the Tommy Bahama version of Doc Severinsen, the Johnny Carson show band leader/trumpet player with the crazy jackets.

  • @sonofawwiivet1626
    @sonofawwiivet16264 жыл бұрын

    The toe in affect work great in the 80s in my old 72 Manatee mobile home that I use to live in. I hung the speakers from the ceiling and turned them inwards and it sounded fantastic through my Fisher receiver even with my vhs, I use to crank up Rush videos especially! Thanks for the reminder I will do it in the garage asap!

  • @Aswaguespack
    @Aswaguespack4 жыл бұрын

    I used to move my speakers in and out. Then I got lazy and kept them out. Then I got yelled at for leaving the speakers away from the wall. I put them back because it was cheaper than a lawyer. 😂

  • @carlosbauza1139

    @carlosbauza1139

    4 жыл бұрын

    But keep alert for incipient subversion.

  • @stephanea5364

    @stephanea5364

    4 жыл бұрын

    Beta male alert.

  • @Merlin-wo1kj

    @Merlin-wo1kj

    4 жыл бұрын

    My wife yelled too, I said there's the door....

  • @MrLuka10

    @MrLuka10

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @lifewithherbthedog6509

    @lifewithherbthedog6509

    4 жыл бұрын

    Get a dog,cheaper and you meet some nice people out walking.

  • @randombouy01
    @randombouy013 жыл бұрын

    Here's a suggestion for those listening to their music and watching videos on computers with either built in sound or a dedicated sound card (no external DAC); turn the master volume to max. It can improve bass, mid and treble response as well as provide a more detailed sound that seems louder than before. Even if you set all your apps and programs to 50% in the Volume Mixer, set the master volume to max. This is on Windows computers, not sure if it's doable on macOS or Linux. If so, do it on those computers too.

  • @pauld7069
    @pauld70694 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes... The magic of trying new things. IMHO you are spot on Steve with encouraging audiophiles to try new positions with their speakers. In some cases the results can be shockingly amazing. 😉

  • @ReeWebster
    @ReeWebster4 жыл бұрын

    Before listening to all this I’d have to say the best thing I ever did was get speaker stands, even simple foam isolator pads on a desk make a massive difference.

  • @peterC12221
    @peterC122214 жыл бұрын

    Great advice Steve. Much appreciated! Peter

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ4 жыл бұрын

    For the longest time I've worked with the equilateral triangle positioning arrangement for monitor speakers, pointed straight at my ears. After watching a video with the record producer Tony Maserati, I've been playing with angling them just behind my head. Not by much but maybe a foot or so behind. Lucky for me my speakers are front ported so it's enough for me to have the speaker fronts just 15” away from the wall. Low cost speaker stands - Second hand furniture stores can yield bedside cabinets and flower-pot stands in the 27” to 30” range. A useful height for small to medium speakers ...

  • @pbarach1
    @pbarach14 жыл бұрын

    What about using a mono recording to adjust toe in for a strong center image?

  • @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

    @SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac

    4 жыл бұрын

    pbarach1 absolutely!

  • @robertcowart2456
    @robertcowart24564 жыл бұрын

    Good advise Steve, even moving the speakers an inch at time can make a huge difference in terms of focused imaging. Your shirts are emblematic of you: a man with good cheer.

  • @S.L.1211
    @S.L.12114 жыл бұрын

    I have a 1978 Yamaha Receiver & 1982 Technics turntable. I also stream audio via my iPad. I have Wharfedale diamond 220’s hooked up. Would I benefit more from upgrading my speakers to more expensive ones or my amp/receiver to more modern?

  • @512bb
    @512bb4 жыл бұрын

    Superb advise Steve!!!!

  • @Soldano999
    @Soldano9994 жыл бұрын

    I tried angling my speakers for a while but interestingly flat parallel seems to work better for me. More open sound.

  • @briansimmons5363
    @briansimmons53634 жыл бұрын

    I should add I also have a pir of HSU HBK-1 MKII which are horn tweeter speakers like the RP-600Ms. HSU actually recommends the cross about 2' IN FRONT of the listeners head. I have not put in the time to optimize their placement yet.

  • @miguelbarrio
    @miguelbarrio4 жыл бұрын

    Great episode Steve! Couple of comments: My horn speakers (Avantgarde Duo Mezzo) are pretty directional, so toe-in is key to get the right tonal balance at the listening position. I think the higher frequency horns are more directional than the lower frequency ones, which is why the tonal balance changes as you toe-in. Same with Klipsch I presume. Additionally, the separation between the speakers does change the tonal balance. In fact I experimented and changes the separation of my speakers after a comment you made. My yardstick is again the tonal balance - in particular piano and voice. I find the midrange gets "richer" as you bring the speakers together, and thins out when you separate them. In my case I brought the speakers closer together by about 18 inches.

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis6494 жыл бұрын

    One of these weekends when I have time I have to come into the city and demo my car stereo for you Steve. Been installing since the mid 80's;) 93' Phoenix Gold MSa nd MQ A-B Tipple Darlington amps and one set of Dev Tech drivers from their Demand series in custom fiberglass enclosures. Absolutely breathtaking and at any volume. Nd the kind of sound I prefer is.... Real. It will freak you out. I'm tempted to try the drivers from the KEF LS50's because your rather close in the car but they won't sell me just the drivers and crossovers:(

  • @hf3593
    @hf35934 жыл бұрын

    One thing l do, is find a piece of music that has the deepest, and best bass. Then l set tone controls on my receiver to flat, playing said music at a fairly loud volume. Now , while listening to the bass. l move my speakers as close to the walls ( back or side ) as possible, without them sounding boomy. That could be inches or feet from the walls, depending on the speakers and room. l almost always keep my tone controls flat. But there are times, where l will turn the bass up one tick, if the bass seems weak. But after a few songs, l usually go back to flat.

  • @coogycoogman3715
    @coogycoogman37154 жыл бұрын

    I wasn't sure if moving my speakers closer into the room further away from the back wall would work. Totally amazed by the improvement. I will continue to experiment with slight adjustments and toe in too. Problem is each speaker weighs 50kg. The speakers are Kralk TDB12s, they are amazing. I actually spent considerably less on these than my PMC twenty 22s that they replaced. Thanks Steve for another informative video.

  • @remaxremax
    @remaxremax4 жыл бұрын

    Best advice ever for stereo system FREE significant upgrade. Placed Kef R3's form 2 feet to 3 feet and 2 inches away from the wall (and 6 feet apart) and a whole new world of sound opened up. The depthe and holographic imaging INCREDIBLE. Just TRY it!

  • @onefatstratcat
    @onefatstratcat4 жыл бұрын

    Wife yells!! "Honey.... why are sitting in the middle of the room?" "WHAT?????"

  • @matthewbarrow3727
    @matthewbarrow37274 жыл бұрын

    The track "Letter" in Yosi Horikawa's Wandering album was very useful for determining toe-in. It basically sounds like someone scribbling out a letter with the pen moving from left to right. I have very directional speakers (Legacy Audio Aeris), which are 9 feet apart, and about 11 feet from the listener. I started with them both facing straight forward, and toed them in a little bit at a time. When the speakers were straight forward, I would hear the pen move from left to right but seem to jump the center. With enough toe-in, the pen would move smoothly from left to right through the center, at a constant speed. The system has room correction, so I was able to have one speaker 7 feet from the front wall, and the other speaker 7 inches from the front wall, with the sound being just fine.

  • @MrLuka10
    @MrLuka104 жыл бұрын

    Yes, it's a matter of experimentation but also a matter of individual taste. Now, I would like to know your opinion on placing a regular rectangular two or three way speakers vertically. For example the woofer, mid-range and teeter all at the same level instead of one on top of each other like the traditional placement. Thanks for your excellent job always.

  • @johnsweda2999
    @johnsweda29994 жыл бұрын

    Well it's not just towing in you might want to go out or only on one speaker more adjusted than the other and tilting them back an inch from the bottom for time alignment as well swapping them upside down and placing them on their side is all valid

  • @MrGonzo4000
    @MrGonzo40004 жыл бұрын

    Good video as a DJ and music lover I have been doing this for years and my speakers are on stands that swivel...

  • @MetalsForBrunch
    @MetalsForBrunch4 жыл бұрын

    I would only angle the surround speakers behind me. The center channel and front right left speakers sit parallel against the wall.

  • @dorayahamat2925
    @dorayahamat29254 жыл бұрын

    Hi Steve, this system of toed in and placing the speakers away from the wall, does this work with active speakers too, like the Beolabs?

  • @markmaloof2984
    @markmaloof29844 жыл бұрын

    Good common sense advice. Many people turn to cables, power treatment, tweaks, etc to get the most out of their system (and those things can sometimes make a difference for sure), but a lot of people ignore how much speaker placement (and your room itself) can sometimes have a major impact on the sound. Move those speakers around and listen!

  • @MarcusFenixD
    @MarcusFenixD4 жыл бұрын

    Great tips! What do you think about Usher S520 II speakers and how could one improve them with a little cos, I'm a tweaker and I would love to do something to them :D

  • @Splenda257
    @Splenda2573 жыл бұрын

    Great advice, and a perfect prediction of the effect. My speakers sound brighter and more detailed. I'm leaving my speakers toed in.

  • @violinist3
    @violinist34 жыл бұрын

    Roger Sanders gave a talk at the local audio guild here in San Diego. He recommended putting wings on planar speakers to prevent the 180° out of phase sound from the back from interfering with the sound from the front.

  • @simebertolet4351
    @simebertolet43514 жыл бұрын

    Hey Steve, I have two systems in separate rooms. One room running Klipsch LaScala and one room running Klipsch Heresy speakers. I have experimented extensively with speaker placement for both systems and in both cases the sound quality was best when the speakers were relatively close to the wall, 12” x 18”. I’m just curious to see if anyone in your audience has had similar results with these two Klipsch models. Thanks

  • @anderssoderlind90
    @anderssoderlind904 жыл бұрын

    I have tried many different variants how to setup the speakers in the room everything depends on how big they are or small on pedistal are more dependent on toe-in than big on 2-300 liters for a lot of toe-in on large then you feel that they is out of phase. Moving the speaker into the room from the back wall is like using eq you end up in the middle of the sound circle that controls how it will sound, small speakers have more to gain than larger ones. My big speakers 300lit. stands about 20-25cm from the back wall with a weak toe-in to sound better. How much toe-in you need is really individual, there are those who listen on my speakers would like to change my settings but when they have tried it usually ends up where they were from the beginning.

  • @oo7naughtyusmaximus933
    @oo7naughtyusmaximus9334 жыл бұрын

    I still have my Tannoy 611 speakers hooked up to my system. I also still have my Sharp Optonica 7100 turntable.

  • @404010ful
    @404010ful4 жыл бұрын

    I have my system audios away from the wall slightly angled toward me and the soundstage really makes them disappear. When listening to one of my reference recording it gives that illusion. Also did it with my one driver bookshelves as well .

  • @carlitomelon4610
    @carlitomelon46104 жыл бұрын

    Solid advice! Finally tracked down a set of 24in tall, original 1988 Acoustic Energy STAE1 stands for my KEF LS50s. I was using 18in Foundation Audio lead filled stands previously. This got the driver's up to ear level. Clarity improved, but I lost the creamy (HR)"butterscotch sundae" sound I liked :-/ It wasn't until I filled the stands with 23lbs of lead shot each that the rich tone returned. I also had to rebalance the REL subs. I find BluTak works best for affixing speakers to stands, with spikes at the floor end. This morning I'm playing with toe in of my freestanding Rega Naos.... Thanks Steve;-)

  • @Dulkh4n
    @Dulkh4n4 жыл бұрын

    I would love to hear your opinion on dap's. I'm looking for one right now and I could use the guidance

  • @awdadwadwad1723

    @awdadwadwad1723

    4 жыл бұрын

    DAPs and EQs... blaah. They are ALWAYS doing more damage to the sound than good. Get better DAC, treat your room, move speakers from the walls.

  • @sankarchinnaswamy2716
    @sankarchinnaswamy2716 Жыл бұрын

    Dear Steve I have very limited space from the rear wall ie. only 6 inches. Shall I go for a front bass reflex port or down firing port speaker like Polk audio ES 60. Please clarify.

  • @JEMHull-gf9el
    @JEMHull-gf9el4 жыл бұрын

    my speakers are to large and in to small of a n area to toe in or to have tehm far enough from the wall as one would normally. its pretty cramped (think Japanese audiophile status) I haven't done much room treatment but I'd like to. Should I at least have some sound foam on the wall behind the speaker to help with reflecting?

  • @armanddimeo6575
    @armanddimeo65754 жыл бұрын

    Your advice is well taken. I toe in my NHT C3's slightly. The manufacturer recommends not toeing them in at all because of the three-way design. I find they sound better slightly toed in but not as aggressively as I would with a two-way design. Small differences in speaker placement can make a big difference. Moving one speaker back three inches made a huge difference.

  • @garysvinyldungeon2764
    @garysvinyldungeon27644 жыл бұрын

    I just purchased Cornwall III's and I have them aiming directly at me and they sound best in this position. I also built 2 boxes to set them on with wheels so I can move them around with ease.

  • @zizendorf

    @zizendorf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting. I'm very curious about the Cornwall as my next speaker. How are your results when they're close to back wall and corner? They're said to be designed for this positioning.

  • @garysvinyldungeon2764

    @garysvinyldungeon2764

    4 жыл бұрын

    Eric Sell To be honest with you I’ve never had them against the wall, but they have front ports so that shouldn’t be a issue

  • @notDonaldFagen
    @notDonaldFagen4 жыл бұрын

    I have some breathing room and a slight toe in. I try to get the axis just behind my head, so the direct link of each channel brushes each respective ear. Instead of the axis farther back or meeting at my face.

  • @fcm2790
    @fcm27904 жыл бұрын

    Question/ I have klipsch model kg 1.5 bookshelf speakers set up with integra receiver.. why do i have to raise vol to around 60-65 percent to get decent sound.. when top vol is only 100?.. do my speakers suck or receiver?

  • @Yalookin
    @Yalookin4 жыл бұрын

    I’ve read that for most situations the best place for the speakers is close to the wall because it reduces cancelations in the sub bass. That’s why in studios they have speakers either in the wall or atleast 2.2 meters away from the wall. But 1 meter from the wall is supposedly the worst for the bass.

  • @awdadwadwad1723

    @awdadwadwad1723

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you put speakers under 1 meter from main wall then bass is destroying spaciousness and 3d effect. The best is speakers 1/3rd into the room and sitting place about 30 cm from back wall. Atleast 70 cm from back walls and no more than 1.2x distance between speakers and listening position (x). Also distance between speaker and side walls/main wall must be atleast 1.3x different, it can't be the same.

  • @ChrisJKing-se4dp
    @ChrisJKing-se4dp4 жыл бұрын

    great advice Steve 'im using a pair of Theil speakers their advice is to fire them straight ahead However i toed them in and moved them further into the room and the difference was amazing so there you go it worked for me happy new year

  • @jeffmpvd7689

    @jeffmpvd7689

    4 жыл бұрын

    Chris J. King I also have a pair of Thiels. I too followed their advise to point thenm strait ahead. Today I tried towing them in an got a much better center and better detail too. Don't think I will go back to the way I had them set up for all these years.

  • @ChrisJKing-se4dp

    @ChrisJKing-se4dp

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffmpvd7689 good for you Jeff it's just a matter of experimenting you'll know the sweet spot when you hear it Happy Listening

  • @bigjay1970
    @bigjay19704 жыл бұрын

    Smart tips!🤗😉😁

  • @lukasnitsch8641
    @lukasnitsch86414 жыл бұрын

    try pointing them upwards a litte bit, it might open your image a little more

  • @dempsey3
    @dempsey34 жыл бұрын

    Steve please review a Power Sound Audio Sub The dual 18”

  • @allisonsailsandcanvas
    @allisonsailsandcanvas4 жыл бұрын

    Good morning Steve, I always enjoy having my morning coffee with you. Speaker placement is so important. One thing I've done in the past just to get started is tape a couple of cheap laser pointers to the tops of the speakers. It gives you a visual aid and a point of reference for aiming the speakers. It helped me to actually see that they intersected in front of me, behind me, etc. When I decide which sounds best I can fine tune from there. Happy New Year!

  • @Aswaguespack

    @Aswaguespack

    4 жыл бұрын

    Neat idea. A nice way to gain a visual perspective upon an audio concept.

  • @rhwinner
    @rhwinner4 жыл бұрын

    I had a difficult place for my bedroom speakers, a pair of Monitor Audio Silver R2's, on a shelf against the short wall. Try as I might I couldn't get them to sound open and clean. Mudiness was all I heard. I tried everything, but no joy. Finally I moved the knick knacks away from the sides of the speakers, and that did it. Who knew, that in addition to having clearance behind and in front of the speaker, you need to let them breathe on the sides as well. Lesson learned.

  • @Gregor7677
    @Gregor76774 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ho Steverino! Good post. Happy new year!

  • @JohnDoe-np3zk
    @JohnDoe-np3zk4 жыл бұрын

    I keep these Infinity Kappa 8s parallel to the wall because they don't benefit from toe in from my experience. The mid is a dome and the tweeters face front and rear and are ribbons so both have a good dispersion. Even the mid bass is a dome.

  • @ralflang5524
    @ralflang55244 жыл бұрын

    great shirt man! cheers!

  • @jvw97
    @jvw974 жыл бұрын

    When measuring distance from the wall behind speakers do you measure to the rear of the cabinet or to the front baffle where the drivers are?

  • @radzillov

    @radzillov

    4 жыл бұрын

    To the front.

  • @kohnfutner9637

    @kohnfutner9637

    4 жыл бұрын

    distance from the wall to the port or, if it has no rear port, to the front. If you get a Yamaha receiver with the anti-echo technology (called R.S.C. (Reflected Sound Control) you don't have to worry about it that much. My Yamaha RX-A880 has it, I don't know if the lower ones do or not. Works well, too. It also has the equivalent to a miniDSP built in. Denon X3500H has neither of these must have features.

  • @jeffreypryor4549
    @jeffreypryor45494 жыл бұрын

    I've always kept my speakers toed in and tweeters at ear level in my sitting position. I'll experiment with moving them out from the wall tonight.

  • @kimblehosey7930
    @kimblehosey79304 жыл бұрын

    The wax in my left ear is easy to clean flakey and uninfected. My right ear hardly produces wax and I wonder if I hear correctly.

  • @AndreasHalvardsson
    @AndreasHalvardsson4 жыл бұрын

    Splendid!

  • @bobcorrin5886
    @bobcorrin58864 жыл бұрын

    I agree !! Is that a PS Audio behind you? And Happy new year.

  • @adeelcyril3339
    @adeelcyril33394 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely awesome video Steve. Look at Wilson Audio. They taking this very seriously. And in actually it makes a huge difference. I had the pleasure of talking to Dave Wilson many years ago and he gave me the same reason.

  • @stevenjackson8226
    @stevenjackson82264 жыл бұрын

    All those things are good, critically important even, for getting a speaker dialed in to sound its best (maybe fair to say the way you like the sound of it best). The vertical position of the speaker is just as critical. Yes, it maybe more work to change the speaker height, especially with floorstanding speakers, but it's just as important a set up dimension as all the others. One way to simply test how changing your relative ear position to the speaker is simply to raise and lower all of you staying in just the vertical axis and see how the sound changes. With every speaker I've ever owned things will change a lot. As you mention, the place to start is with the tweeter center at ear height.

  • @waynedexter
    @waynedexter4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 🙏🏾

  • @RC-qc2nz
    @RC-qc2nz4 жыл бұрын

    I know when you had a couple of hundreds subscribers. Now you are near 100.000! Wow, congratulations! I like your videos and I hope you can give an advise. I am searching for good bookshelf speakers for around 1 to 2 thousand euros. I live in Germany.. I like coaxial drivers and eingängig midrange and sparkling highs. Which speaker would you recommend?

  • @djhmax09
    @djhmax094 жыл бұрын

    Does this apply to active speakers that utilize DSP?

  • @seabud6408
    @seabud64084 жыл бұрын

    Agree about what you are saying re moving them into the body of the room. Feels more like the musicians are inhabiting the space.

  • @rothschildianum
    @rothschildianum4 жыл бұрын

    I tried to pull my speakers away from the back wall about 6 feet. Wow, I have never heard my speakers sounded that good. They totally disappeared, I felt as if I were in Chicago Symphony Hall. Thx for the suggestion! By the way, mine are a pair of small Sonus Faber Auditor with Nait 5i. I love this combination.

  • @RickRoberts_simplyrick
    @RickRoberts_simplyrick4 жыл бұрын

    First wave reflection at a side wall that hits the listening spot is a big problem. Treating that sidewall with dampening material to kill that reflection is key. Then toe in, combined with closer placement or distance from the sidewall is the experiment for width and depth of sound stage. Use some masking tape to mark different speaker positions and toe in so you can repeat.

  • @mliler1405
    @mliler14054 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I just got a new pair of head phones for Christmas. I was looking through your videos but didn’t see one about Breaking in new headphones. I’m a gamer, and wanted to know if there was any protocol for high end new headphones use, like burn in or something?

  • @nostro1001

    @nostro1001

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ Miller....I don't think there's any protocol as such as that would be too generic. Different headphones, different drivers etc may require different 'treatment'. That said can't hurt to 'burn in', whether you're a believer or not, it doesn't cost to do so!!

  • @user-xb4nn6ql5l
    @user-xb4nn6ql5l4 жыл бұрын

    Really sound advice, if you’ll forgive the pun. One thing I would (perhaps controversially) add is that you can avoid a lot of “room effects” by just angling the speakers a bit from the back wall. 10-15 degrees is great. You’ll be surprised how much smearing is reduced by that.

  • @user-xb4nn6ql5l

    @user-xb4nn6ql5l

    4 жыл бұрын

    I should add that what I mean is that you angle the back end of the speakers away from the wall by 10-15 degrees. So instead of pointing them down the centre line of your room (with whatever toe-in works for you) point them 10-15 degrees off that centre line. This dramatically reduces “first reflection” smearing by effectively breaking them up and sending them away from your ears. Model them carefully and you’ll see what I mean.

  • @zizendorf
    @zizendorf4 жыл бұрын

    Do not be afraid to go past what most consider "toe-in". Give "Time Intensity Trading" a try! That's where you toe-in aggressively and have the center axis of each speaker cross in front of the primary listening position. If you've got a square or rectangular room aim each speaker at its cross corner. This positioning works for cancelling side wall reflection.

  • @gurdyman1

    @gurdyman1

    4 жыл бұрын

    I've used this method for many years and many different speakers. It does work.

  • @nathanwalsh3028
    @nathanwalsh30284 жыл бұрын

    Finally someone speaking my language. You can have many different options as far as how your system sounds without spending money. Just spend some time.

  • @stephenmeinhold5452
    @stephenmeinhold54524 жыл бұрын

    the tip of moving the speakers away from the wall is golden it gives the speakers room to breath and the results can be breathtaking. but my speakers are on dedicated stands I don't think you will get the same results if you stick your speakers on a chair of something other than stands.or a large block of concrete.

  • @kevinweber5129
    @kevinweber51294 жыл бұрын

    I just saw a video where the guy recommended raising your subs 12 to 24 inches off the floor. Does that work?

  • @Greedynessnish
    @Greedynessnish4 жыл бұрын

    My speakers are about 2 feet away from the wall and about 7 1/2 feet away from each other. They are also 8 feet away from me. As far as toe in, I make sure that I can't see the sides of the cabinets while I'm sitting in my seat as the baffle board faces me. I have a modest set up but, I believe I get the most out of it with speakers positioned this way. I'm set up in my basement(MAN CAVE) so I don't have to move the speakers back when I'm done. I also built my stands so the tweeters are ear level.

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583
    @mikehydropneumatic25834 жыл бұрын

    Steve, for christmas I had a great album (David Sylvian Brilliant Trees) and I will experiment for a bit. Have some nice days and of course a healthy 2020!

  • @davidcripps3011

    @davidcripps3011

    4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome album :-)

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583

    @mikehydropneumatic2583

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@davidcripps3011 Yes David, Gone to Earth is another epic DS album. Are you aware of Nils Frahm? You might like his work too. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qp2cmsOikca4g84.html

  • @nostro1001

    @nostro1001

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ Mike....I've got that on vinyl. Haven't played any Sylvian in ages. As for Nils Frahm....I think I've got all his albums, including his late night tales compilation. Very chill neo classical (where I categorise him) artist. 😎🎶🎶😎

  • @davidcripps3011

    @davidcripps3011

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mikehydropneumatic2583 I had a listen to a few of his pieces and I can tell he's really good but I can't listen to instrumentals for very long. It's weakness of mine with music, have to have a vocal

  • @mikehydropneumatic2583

    @mikehydropneumatic2583

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nostro1001 Yes Nils mixes piano with synth and Mellotron, very nice!

  • @chadbarker2316
    @chadbarker23164 жыл бұрын

    I agree . Everytime I move mine, different sound!

  • @kelsnake
    @kelsnake4 жыл бұрын

    This might be cringeworthy, but I spend most of my day in my wood shop. Lots of stuff to soak up random sound reflections, but this video has me thinking more about their placement. The tweeter level has me thinking too. A big thing I am concerned about is dust for my amp etc, so building a fan driven and filtered/ventilated cabinet. Also, since I am playing with 10 speakers, I am working with multiple amps as it allows me to customize volume levels between them for amazing sound! Is that a thing? ...or am I way to experimental for my own good?

  • @JohnDoe-np3zk

    @JohnDoe-np3zk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Check out Engineer 775 channel he will keep your mind busy with other things.

  • @JD_and_TheBanned
    @JD_and_TheBanned4 жыл бұрын

    Oddly, the T1s I got from Emotiva sound better jammed up against the wall. Seems my room sets up odd and muddy reverberation and that resolves it.

  • @JohnDoe-np3zk

    @JohnDoe-np3zk

    4 жыл бұрын

    Leave your muddy boots outside the door.

  • @Digbysexpot
    @Digbysexpot4 жыл бұрын

    I always remember in one video where you stated that “you’re not listening to speakers, you’re listening to the room”. There’s a lot you can do with the room that can affect the sound. Unfortunately my listening room has knee walls and I’m forced to listen across the room rather than the length.

  • @georgewu7150
    @georgewu71504 жыл бұрын

    Is that an LFF Code-X?

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