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@dabramantya

3 жыл бұрын

I love you, keep the good work 👍🏼👍🏼❤️❤️

@jackcassidy7317

3 жыл бұрын

A collaboration with Alex Steele could be interesting, an experience blacksmith with modern tools trying to refine a unpure piece of iron. Not really sure how to work it into the reset but maybe after you've advanced to a certain technology

@nelle8348

3 жыл бұрын

When you work with wrought iron and are attempting a forge weld or to consolidate the bloom, you should have it much hotter than you had when working in Minnesota. It should be white hot with small blebs of molten material beginning to form on the surface. This will lead to a stronger forge weld, for you to loose less material while consolidating the bloom, and to an overall stronger product (as in perhaps not having a crack like your final knife did). I noticed that while you were with Joseph, they had the correct color/temperature, and they even commented that they had reached the perfect color. With your previous failed iron making attempt, the reason your bloom cracked when you attempted to consolidated it may not have been that your smelting didn't work, but that when you attempted to work the bloom you were several hundred degrees short of the correct temperature so instead of welding together it just cracked.

@philipmoore9098

3 жыл бұрын

Keep doing what you are doing and don’t be discouraged. I think your main problem is that you are hitting the bloom too long. You should only strike while the bloom is white, yellow or a bright orange, if any part of the work piece is red or grey then the iron has cooled too much and will become more brittle than you would expect.

@cavv0667

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, could you try making Kvass as well?

When you work with wrought iron and are attempting a forge weld or to consolidate the bloom, you should have it much hotter than you had when working in Minnesota. It should be yellow white hot when consolidating the bloom and white hot with small blebs of molten material beginning to form on the surface when you are forge welding. This will lead to a stronger forge weld, for you to loose less material while consolidating the bloom, and to an overall stronger product (as in perhaps not having a crack like your final knife did). I noticed that while you were with Joseph, they had the correct color/temperature, and they even commented that they had reached the perfect color. With your previous failed iron making attempt, the reason your bloom cracked when you attempted to consolidated it may not have been that your smelting didn't work, but that when you attempted to work the bloom you were several hundred degrees short of the correct temperature so instead of welding together it just cracked.

@TheJesster257

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Definitely didn't seem hot enough (hard to tell on camera) when he was in Minnesota. The edges (most of what fell off) where still reasonably dark when he tried forging. So either the temp wasn't high enough, or their blooms still had a significant amount of very impure slag on the outside.

@saudade7842

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, i'm pretty sure he's just not getting it hot enough.

@lufmesquita

3 жыл бұрын

The darkness was fooling him into thinking the iron was brighter than it was I guess

@nelle8348

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJesster257, exactly. But even if there was extra slag, if he had heated it up to the correct temperature the iron and slag alike would glow with the same white color, but since he did not do that we can’t tell what degree the breaking was due to impurities or just improper technique. Now all of that said I do love the all of his videos, and I watch them as soon as they come out. I also have a huge interest in starting from the Stone Age and trying to make bronze and iron tools. It just makes me sad that Andy goes through so much research and effort to ultimately miss one or two key details that messes up his final project. In his linothorax video he used unprocessed fat instead of using a natural glue to individual laminate the layers together into a ridged armor. The Linothorax are set apart from other cloth armors because its rigidity and stiffness provide more protection, but his product ended up being more saggy and lacking a lot of protective value against penetration. His bronze casting videos he did alone often would mess up or miss key bronze casting techniques that would have greatly improved his chances of success, and greatly improved the quality of his tools (all without using modern tools). I really love these videos and I am sure that he is under a time crunch to get these videos out on time. Like making a glue and individually laminating the linothorax one layer at the time and letting it dry before starting the next layer is key to producing a functional armor, but would have added potentially a hundred hours or more to its production time. I get that this is his and his crews livelihood as well and that time is money, so cutting some corners, even if it affects the end result, is probably necessary. I only want to see him succeed because this sort of thing is so cool to me and I feel like no one has really done this sort of thing before with this big of audience and production value.

@nelle8348

3 жыл бұрын

@@lufmesquita , its actually easier to see the various shades of color in the dark. Since all solids glow with the same color when at a certain temperature, and if you have a color-temperature chart with you you can tell what temperature range each color corresponds with. My guess is that he just didnt know what the correct temperature for forge welding wrought iron or he could not reach that temp with his current set up. and was under a time crunch.

A few things: Forge with less light so you can better judge temperature based on color. I see you forging the iron at what is probably a way too cold temperature and you introduced a ton of cracks into the material because of that

@elowenminer7748

3 жыл бұрын

I kept seeing him beat it long past working temp and even less so for forge welding

@simontay4851

3 жыл бұрын

A LOT of cracks. Not ton.

@RKroese

3 жыл бұрын

@@simontay4851 Nope, metric ton...

@kayagorzan

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@oldmech619

3 жыл бұрын

I hope this is not in California. I am so fire burn off.

Everybody gangsta until andy builds a time machine

@victorunbea8451

3 жыл бұрын

already did. He hit the reset button on it and started from the stone age

@joejia1410

3 жыл бұрын

@@victorunbea8451 Shit.

Imagine finishing the knife then just a textbox pops up above your head saying Getting An Upgrade

@jacobocorujo6693

3 жыл бұрын

"Andy has Acquired Hardware"

@charliep8534

2 жыл бұрын

HAHA

I'll make a suggestion here, seeing as you already have ceramics, and iron-production, you should try taking as much of the high-iron content slag from the bloom and forging process, crush it into a fine powder (as fine as you can manage) add some of the borax you mined for glass-production, and throw it in a fired, sealed ceramic container... (Literally just a fired clay pot, with a fired clay lid, and some extra fresh clay to block out the air). Then basically put the pot BACK in the furnace, and burn the everliving crud outta it. With any luck, you should be able to get a single, solid block of mostly-iron as a result. And THAT should totally be forge-able with the tools you have at hand.

@bigmeatswangin5837

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this is the way to purify the ore. Borax and lime are used even today with high grade metal casting.

@ArthurEKing8472

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigmeatswangin5837 I mean this is the way they used to make wootz damascus, so it's definitely a way they could make this!

Can we just appreciate how this man has redone hundreds of years in I don’t know 1-2 years

@charliep8534

2 жыл бұрын

More than hundreds but I don't know if I should say billions

@1pcfred

2 жыл бұрын

@@charliep8534 We have not been around for billions of years. Life on this planet was, but we weren't. We don't have much to show for most of the time we've been around either. It is hard to appreciate progress. We're better at making it today than we ever were before. Still not easy.

@onemangamer587

Жыл бұрын

The earliest "humans" date back to 2.4 million years ago, the Homo Habilis. And then the humans that are more as they are known now, date back from 300,000 years, 200,000 years and then the more modern human at 100,000 years respectfully. So we have been using "tools" for about 2.4 million years, starting with sticks and stones (quite literally), working our way up to what we have today.

I think your next project should be a millhouse. I don't expect you to get a team of oxen or a stream-front property with a waterwheel, but even with the bronze tools, you have the ability to carve out wooden gearing and start to mechanize a bit. With a gear stack, you can make stone mills for grains, bone meal and ore processing; you can make a saw mill (originally designed with vertical, reciprocating blades); you can make a mechanical bellows that will allow you to reach iron casting temperatures which will help with the purification and billet making; lastly, you will be able to make a water screw.

@JS-jh4cy

Жыл бұрын

How to make an ancient sawmill?

I've seen every episode of HTME and this is the first time I actually thought I could do the thing. Looking forward to more iron age stuff!

@GlorifiedGremlin

Жыл бұрын

This is like the hardest thing he's done so far lmao

I'm glad there are people like you that help our history stay alive.

I really love what you are doing now. Since kid i was dreaming and wandering about making metal tools from scratch. I hope you will provide even more quality content like this.

@Hubris2

3 жыл бұрын

In these 'challenging times' even more than in the past you think about 'what if' everything were to fall apart and you were to be left alone with your wits, trying to make whatever you have to be able to continue living. If you thought of 'large deserted island' where you didn't already have modern sources of steel - you would need to go back to some form of basics. Details like knowing the correct color associated with iron that can be worked would not be in the average person's skillset.

This Dr. Stone live action is the besttt

Although it would get less inefficient with a larger scale this was a decent demonstration of how inefficient and labor intensive the production of bloomery iron tends to be.

I know this stuff is very difficult and frustrating, and not yielding very spectacular results. However, you guys are very entertaining and informative in of yourselves, and I really appreciate all the hard work you guys put into these videos. Never give up! You're doing exactly what you set out to do with this channel!

Lets admit it... You are no longer an "average person" 😂

You know what would be literally the best sponsor for this series? Skillshare.

forge weld after forge weld and I just kept yelling at the screen,"USE FLUX!!"

Borax! When you're smelting and forge welding, use your borax as flux to increase overall bonding and removal of impurities.

@potatoboy549

3 жыл бұрын

Oh wow, so cavemen just found borax to forge iron?

Go and see Alec Steele to improve forging!

@iwanadiefast

3 жыл бұрын

i second that

@toxicdemon1071

3 жыл бұрын

He finally did it

@ryanquinlan178

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

I miss Good and Basic. Last I knew about it, clean shaven Joseph had moved his family and got a new teaching job, so I figured there wouldn't be too many more collaboration videos, but they were each making videos individually on soap making, farming etc. Where else am I going to get that "we harvested some grains growing at the side of the road and made bread with it" content?

@GoodandBasic

3 жыл бұрын

We're back. :-) JB

@PKMartin

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodandBasic I figured as much when you uploaded a new video just after I commented! Looking forward to more primitive iron and everything else

@ghostcraft9343

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodandBasic it is good to see your stuff again

@WasatchWind

3 жыл бұрын

@@GoodandBasic Are you guys from Utah? (or adjacent states) I'm wondering cause Andy got his iron supply from iron county.

@GoodandBasic

3 жыл бұрын

@@WasatchWind yes indeed. It's a good place. JB

I just realized that this is the Netflix adaptation of Dr. Stone

We have finally found a person who speaks in 1.25x speed

@aaronmiller6118

3 жыл бұрын

Ben Shapiro speaks at 10x speed

@richardfarrer5616

3 жыл бұрын

2.5x speed for me - I watch KZread doubletime.

@cristianvillanueva8782

3 жыл бұрын

You should check out red and and blue from Overly Sarcastic Productions.

@richardfarrer5616

3 жыл бұрын

@@cristianvillanueva8782 Been there. That's definitely a 1.5x site. Also excellent viewing, even if most of mine has been on the Red side.

2060: Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant Disaster From Scratch

@turtle7792

3 жыл бұрын

ok

@ArthurEKing8472

3 жыл бұрын

Funny thing, there actually IS a real-life example of that... But it was a naturally occurring thing, instead of man-made. They only discovered it because they found a uranium mine, and tried to get it, only to find it was already depleted uranium.... And were annoyed, and confused.

@Bluboy511

3 жыл бұрын

2100: Corona Virus from scratch

@joshuabaughn3734

3 жыл бұрын

Please no

@FBlOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

5000: earth from scratch

It's amazing that Andy makes such awesome videos and still makes a video every week.

I aspire to experience as much joy as these grown men express over a few pieces of glowing rock

Well done Andy! You made something useful from what you had to work with. That's a success in itself! Sometimes, success comes from improvement between the steps, not the results of the steps themselves.

Really cool to hear about my state in this video, and about something I'm already familiar with in our history! I gotta hand it to my ancestors, they took a desert wasteland and made it into a thriving self sufficient string of settlements.

Now that bloomery is done, its time to make a blast furnace.

Awesome job guys thoroughly enjoyed this one as well as all your other ones. Long time fan of your stuff Andy keep up the great work!!

THIS is what i´m here for! Way more interesting to watch than having Andy just go to a proper forge and make a sword with proper tools!

YES! That's a clean and proper Iron Age unlock. Well done!

I don't know how u are not the most subscribed channel in the world. . I don't know how to appreciate the content u create... U are amazing

Outstanding job! I’ve been on a similar journey in life. From flint knapping to metallurgy. Foundry work is the one thing I haven’t messed with. It looks like the perfect blend of fun and danger... lol awesome job. If you need an assistant to come follow you around let me know😁

they being so happy at 10min mark was wholesome lol never thought I'd smile seeing some dudes working some iron

Loved this video. Other videos I've seen were about the size of the iron bloom. But very early metal work in tiny quantities was clearly the initial stages. It's not about making swords or hammers, it's about arrow heads and tools. So cool.

Much more honest at tool making attempt than Primitive Skills KZread channel, thank you.

Waiting for him to make a pickaxe.

Great way to start my Friday, love the videos.

I get far too excited for these videos lol. Thank you and keep up the great work!

You should do a second smelt to purify all the stuff and help out to have more massive metal chunk with a higher iron content.

Thanks for the video. These always make my jaw drop imagining how much trial and error this would take. Like entire generations of people spent their whole lives trying and failing at this stuff. Then someone stumbled onto some level of success and people ran with it, trying and failing countless more times until they started to understand WHY they failed. Slowly but surely improving it piece by piece, struggling through countless designs and changes to try to achieve a hotter temperature or a more consistent temperature, figuring out the ratio of charcoal to ore that changes constantly. Gives you a whole different level of respect for our crazy ancestors who figured this stuff out; and a real appreciation of how lucky we are to have modern technology to help and easily accessible knowledge to learn from. Something that took generations and over a century to stumble through is now something you could realistically work through in your backyard, given you did some research.

@1pcfred

2 жыл бұрын

Actually success wasn't usually shared. If you knew how to make iron better than your neighbors did that gave you a decided advantage over them. When Italy discovered how to make glass sharing the secret was punishable by death. So yeah not the most generous folks.

I'm obsessed with damascus steel. That knife was _sweet!_

Awesome, another great Video to watch!

It really brings home how far we’ve come

Great stuff! It looks like you're letting it get too cold when forging (from my limited experience). Looking forward to seeing where it goes next!

I used to greatly admire those who could turn an old rusty iron railroad pin into a beautifully fashioned butterfly knife or such; but after seeing this, I have even far greater admiration for the millions of people who modified our systems to turn ROCK into that old rusty iron railroad pin. I really admire yere work lads, great stuff. Sláinte from Éire :)

It would be awesome to see collab with Alec Steele to teach you forging!

I actually live very close to old iron Town and when seeing your videos on smelting that's all I could think about. Took my parents to see it when they came out from Michigan where we did copper mine tours in the u.p. thansk for bringing back memories friend.

IRON AGE BOOM. man this is fun to watch!

At this point in history higher precision tools and bricks were available, I dont understand why these guys keep using crooked wooden tools and clay to make general measurements

@elliewade295

3 жыл бұрын

Because they personally haven’t made the tools yet

@lufmesquita

3 жыл бұрын

@@elliewade295 but why not take the time to research and develop infrastructure?

@mattgolka6266

3 жыл бұрын

@@lufmesquita because they havent bothered because it doesnt matter to much

@SimuLord

3 жыл бұрын

@@lufmesquita Spoken like someone who understands turn-based strategy games :D

@josephgarcia7030

3 жыл бұрын

You also have to keep in mind that those technologies were developed over thousands of years, leading to their precision and mastery. These guys have only been doing this for a few months, so it makes sense that their tools and measurments are a bit more crude.

Congrats on the little knife. Pretty awesome to know that you can make your own knife if needed. That little guy would be great for skinning deer or any wild game. If you hunt then keep it. If you have friends that hunt, they’d love that as a gift.

Hell yeah man, now you can forge all of your other tools, hammers, axes, adzes, draw knives and any other tool you can think of we support you on your journey sir

Awe, the cutest little baby taps with the hammer lol. "Just tap it in, Just Tap It In. Just Give it a little Tappy. Tap, Tap, Tap a-roo."

That was awesome,,,,keep up the good work we love you man

This man is gonna have his own empire by the end of this seris

@turtle7792

3 жыл бұрын

He will conquer the melon army

@cheesevampire110123

3 жыл бұрын

not with a knife that small he wont

@zakr1187

3 жыл бұрын

Please learn English

@pepre7594

3 жыл бұрын

@@zakr1187 there was one misspelt word I am crying so much oh god the world is ending please help oh no

@staszekr03

3 жыл бұрын

@@pepre7594 What will I ever do without that apostrophe!

Blacksmith here, you need to cook it hotter and faster. The more you heat it in with coal the more you rise the carbon content which makes the iron brittle. Heating it non stop for two days definitely killed your yield and quality. Oxidation from all the air also has an effect. A better bellow system will be needed to fix your problems (faster/hotter). Something like a long stick of wood on a pivot between each bellows. Think of a seesaw attached to bellows on both ends with a longer end to actuate it. Make use of a wheel if you can, or build a wind/water powered system but I hear ̶m̶u̶l̶e̶ ̶s̶l̶a̶v̶e̶ Lauren power is fantastic :P It would make an amazing video to explore how they improved bellows in early iron age history.

Just think how luxurious working with proper steel will feel when you get there.

You're kiln-ing me! Love it!

Imagine being the first person to use flux. Looks like the oldest form is fine silica sand. Gotta get those internal cracks out. Looks like a very fun and exhausting process. Awesome stuff!

I can now appreciate why a sword was such a revered item during certain periods .. thanks for a great video

AH YES! The great milestone in technology. THE STICK!

Poking it with a stick is excellent professional advice, haha.

Keep at it homie. You got this.

You're the best, Andy!

The key to this and the key breakthrough launching the entire Industrial Revolution is to cook the charcoal down into coke (just as charcoal is "cooked" from wood), which is harder and purer and allows for more airflow when burning because it does not smother the fire with collapsed ash. Ergo, you can stack the furnace more and get hotter fires that burn off impurities. Coke-fired blast furnaces made the leap possible from dirty wrought iron to the cast iron we know today, and of course, all the better alloys that come with that. Wildly, the process of making coke was first widely used in brewing because roasting malt with charcoal imparted foul taste and smell. They started using coke for a lighter roast, it created the "pale ale" we know today. About 50 yrs later an Englishman named Abraham Darby who had been apprenticed to a brewer started using coke in his blast furnace, Shortly thereafter he was selling over 80 tons of iron goods a year. Darby was an innovator in sand casting as well.

I'm sure the guys from Forged in Fire would still be impressed. Good effort.

How they managed to forge weld 2 iron ingot with only a bunch of sticks and rocks is mindblowing to me!

Very cool video! Live the colab with good and basic

I got the notification for this video while I was watching it

@mrnice4434

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the matrix

@cheesevampire110123

3 жыл бұрын

WOW

The quarantine beard is looking nice, great vid

I like your channel, i was waiting everyday for you to upload a new video

I have to give it to you. You work hard!

With this iron you uncovered, they would throw you out of the iron age. They would undoubtedly call it the disgrace of the family to you. but there is one more fact. You worked so hard. thank you for making such a complex and laborious video.

I've got an iron letter opener, with a wavy blade(think flamberge), and snake themed handle and sheath, from Africa. I have an aunt who has done medical work and research in Africa and sent this for me as a gift once(I don't remember if it was christmas or birthday). It's definitely rough, and hammered into shape with primitive tools, but it is sharp.

Most underrated Chanel everrr

I wish I could have this job so much as it has always been my dream to do this

Damn thats alot of work Nice

The amount of energy invested in such a small knife. But I admire your for trying.

Crazy idea. Try taking the bloom pieces and break them into pieces small enough to fit into a crucible. Cover the pieces with charcoal and then cover the charcoal with crushed sand and seashells. Place it back into the furnace and bring it up to heat for a while. This should consolidate the iron while providing an oxygen free atmosphere and a flux to remove impurities.

Flux will be your biggest ally when forge welding. It prevents oxidation between the layers of metal and therefore they stick together better.

I would love to see a revisit into smelting iron with a much bigger batch of ore. Maybe with more advanced methods as well.

Iron is the new glass of this channel

I'm from Brazil and I love your videos!!

I have a strong feeling that the very first uses of iron was for hammers and chisels for masonry. I feel like every single flake of it was precious and it was all collected and recombined.

Omg. I LOVE UR CONTENT SO MUCH WORK ILY!!!!!

So that's why the quality of the ore is so important, now I understand why so many places were abandoned and why an iron trade has been developed in ancient times.

Your nighttime forging is so soothing!...

1:43 Now that I look at it again, it does look like obscenities. I'm not even mad, that's amazing! At 14:09 you can see the bloom breaking due to being too cold. Anotehr comment mentioned the bloom has to be yellow-white hot, and it makes sense, considering the clips in the video of bloom being worked successfully and unsuccessfully.

I feel like a nice ending for this series if you make yourself a home, like a proper modern home.

Those are some pretty cool khopeshes on your wall.

Love this channel.

This is awesome!

Humanity has worked a lot for solving this riddle of making good quality iro n most of this tech is taken for granted now a days now you understand how tough it is

I’m surprised they’re not blurring out that furnace.

I was hoping to smelt a bloom this fall but than fall didn’t happen haha. North Dakota / Minnesota winters aren’t great for doing iron smelts in haha

@timoverschuren2165

3 жыл бұрын

justin youre spotted

teachers drinking kombucha at school to have alcohol. lol

@shawngriffith6901

3 жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair 16oz of kambucha has about 2oz of beer worth of alcohol in it.

despite not knowing what your doing, great job, it shows tribes would need farming and effective hunting or livestock. spending so much time and energy for something that you can't eat shows that there was more food security than the other nomadic tribes that only focused on hunting and gathering.

Even if it breaks up keep working it Nd folding it together. Eventually you will work out most of the impurities and have some nice iron

It's so fascinating. I'm trying to imagine how it occurred to people to put these kinds of rocks in the fire to begin with. Maybe a curious person that liked to pick through with a stick after the fire went out discovered certain rocks do odd things and started experimenting and applying that knowledge of how to get a hotter fire and eventually we got here.

You deserve more subs honestly, you’re great