IRON from SAND - Oldest form of iron smelting

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Bloomery forges are the oldest form of smelting iron first used thousands of years ago. In early to mid 2019 a group of volunteers at The Crucible in Oakland, California did a series of smelts to make their own iron from iron-rich sand. This smelted iron was used for an art piece which will be the subject of the next video

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  • @nrrork
    @nrrork3 жыл бұрын

    No wonder alchemy became an obsession of those times. This was an era where people were learning how to make iron out of dirt and copper from green rocks. Lead into gold must've seemed like a perfectly reasonable goal to ancient people.

  • @noiwonttellyoumyname.4385

    @noiwonttellyoumyname.4385

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Lead into gold" was a fundamental misunderstanding by people who weren't let in on the trade secret: lead is used in a more-or-less consumable fashion during the process of refining gold, and to a casual observer it *appears* that the lead is turning into gold. In reality, the lead is basically separating the impurities from the gold and carrying them away.

  • @drakesmith471

    @drakesmith471

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noiwonttellyoumyname.4385 is this gold-mercury amalgamation you’re talking about?

  • @1radarghost

    @1radarghost

    Жыл бұрын

    @@drakesmith471 No. Mercury can vaporize at room temp, so it's gone by the time gold melts. Lead melts at slightly lower temp than gold so it absorbs most of the contaminates, when the lead and gold solidify, giving you a purer form of gold.

  • @leonardothefabulous3490

    @leonardothefabulous3490

    5 ай бұрын

    But here's my big question (about so many things): how/why did anyone think to do this in the first place? What made some man think, "I want to make a material that doesn't exist and that I know nothing about and, I have an idea of how to do it?" Like, whaling: what sailor, upon seeing the largest creatures on the planet (swimming in the ocean) said to his captain, "Hey Ahab, I've got an idea."

  • @Barmaley80x

    @Barmaley80x

    18 күн бұрын

    ​@@leonardothefabulous3490 такая вещь есть, называется голод. Подвести под голод и можно выполнить.

  • @Froddofromtheshire
    @Froddofromtheshire4 жыл бұрын

    I was smelting Iron 15 years ago when Skip was one of a small handful. Now smelting is more common. Every apprentice I have is taught how to make their own steel, charcoal, and tools from essentially nothing.

  • @madarauchihablack5983

    @madarauchihablack5983

    4 жыл бұрын

    Can you please teach me how to smelt iron ore

  • @andrewprahst2529

    @andrewprahst2529

    4 жыл бұрын

    Demon king Scott I'm trying to teach myself as well, friend. From what I've seen, If you don't have a big fancy forge, you might be able to make a little one furnace out of just mud and bricks ect. I think you kinda just crush up the iron ore rocks and put them in the little furnace, then find a way to pump it or fan it with air to get it as hot as you can. Then you pull out whatever hot mess is inside and hammer it a bit and look for little metal bits and break them off. Then maybe try heating those up alone and hammering them together, or melt them if you can get it hot enough. Just the stuff I've picked up from watching KZread videos, I haven't done anything myself. I may try to learn from a blacksmith at some point

  • @bobgatewood5277

    @bobgatewood5277

    3 жыл бұрын

    You people should learn how to also make coke from charcoal and also add some wood ashes (calcium carbonate, more commonly known as limestone). If you make the bloomeries a bit bigger and recycle its heat back to preheat the intake air, you can easily melt iron like a blast furnace.

  • @andrewprahst2529

    @andrewprahst2529

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bob Gatewood Wood ashes in particular are something I've been interested in lately. I don't know much about coke though

  • @bobgatewood5277

    @bobgatewood5277

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewprahst2529 coke burns a lot hotter than plain charcoal, it is a purer form of carbon: m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/X32l0MebeJfUZM4.html About the ashes, the mix of calcium carbonate and potassium carbonate will react with the silica and silicates in the iron ore, binding them and easing the process of removing impurities from iron. Ashes from sodium rich plants, such as glasswork, work best. I recommend to also make clay molds so that, when you tap the slag, it can be poured into these molds, producing some beautiful glass (making glass is also a challenging process, so I facepalm at how much of it is wasted by metallurgists).

  • @TheCrucibleOakland
    @TheCrucibleOakland4 жыл бұрын

    What an incredible job you did capturing this project! Thank you for your great work telling this story from our Blacksmithing Department.

  • @getredytagetredy

    @getredytagetredy

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate all of your cottage efforts doing the real hands on deal...I got to see enormous heats and the entire process working at Bethlehem steel, Sparrows Point in the 70's to 2000's...

  • @massiveopenonlinelecturesi9023

    @massiveopenonlinelecturesi9023

    Жыл бұрын

    IRON MAKING VIDEOS kzread.info/dron/5zGSn-svPs9QETPcYMAOzg.html

  • @anteneupitra

    @anteneupitra

    Ай бұрын

    they cant simply DO IT. !

  • @lowrads3653
    @lowrads36534 жыл бұрын

    3 suggestions: Use 2 grates to sort fuel by size. Secondary containment will protect workers as well as concrete from spall. Masks to prevent silicosis.

  • @danielthompson6207
    @danielthompson62074 жыл бұрын

    Bloom iron is such a rare thing to see these days, and I'm so happy to see you all keeping that process alive while teaching people about it. Thanks for all the hard work!

  • @lordblack998

    @lordblack998

    4 жыл бұрын

    making crucible steel is better OwO

  • @tiatemjentzudir4998

    @tiatemjentzudir4998

    4 жыл бұрын

    So true and many fail to achieve what they have achieved...it was truly incredible

  • @saiffyros

    @saiffyros

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5x3s9CqfpzSZLw.html

  • @jonajo9757

    @jonajo9757

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@lordblack9984 years, but crucible steel is flawed sadly. Since it has a really high carbon content, a treated crucible sword would essentially be like wielding a giant file

  • @fakshen1973
    @fakshen19734 жыл бұрын

    That's an awesome community you have there. If you're part of it, I just want to say that it's really cool that you have people you can really enjoy a passion with for the most basic of human endeavors for the sake of "square one" know-how. Farming, metal-working, and carpentry are the tools on which civilizations are built and can be REBUILT.

  • @donmittlestaedt1117
    @donmittlestaedt11175 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. For me that was historic and gave me a sense of understanding what our forbearers experienced in their pursuit of iron.

  • @machinethinking
    @machinethinking5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry for the problem with the audio. There was a technical issue with the lav mic and I ended up having to use the camera mic which was less than ideal. I tried to de-reverb it as much as possible without distortion and here we are. If you are having difficulty hearing, I went in and cleaned up the Captions so hit the CC button and you should be able to read and follow along. Thanks for watching!

  • @sagebrushrepair

    @sagebrushrepair

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Buro Dackel good luck in life.

  • @Whatareyoueven42

    @Whatareyoueven42

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Buro Dackel Are you okay little person? Where is your mother? Are you lost?

  • @Ni999

    @Ni999

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great service putting this together! I used headphones and it was fair enough but that's just me - kudos for going the extra mile on the captioning!

  • @aramanamu

    @aramanamu

    4 жыл бұрын

    The music playing constantly makes this issue way worse. The talking is actually fine the few times the music drops out but I find this basically unlistenable with the music and the youtube compression.

  • @Whatareyoueven42

    @Whatareyoueven42

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Buro Dackel Omg, you are so cute! Does your mommy know you watch youtube? She should really talk to your teachers about your spelling and grammar though!

  • @melgross
    @melgross4 жыл бұрын

    That was great. It’s really interesting to think about those people, so long ago, who had to understand that there was something they could do that they never did before. Smelting iron requires so much more heat than copper alloys, or silver or gold. It was an entirely new technology they invented, from almost scratch. How long did these early efforts take before it was worthwhile and reliable? We have to remember that smelting Bronze Age ores was something that happened by accident, when people found bits of melted metal in their cooking fires, and realized that this was useful, and so deliberately put ore into fires, until they had it working well. But that doesn’t work with iron, so from the very beginning, they had to figure out that so much more heat was required. Then they had to figure out the principle of blowing air into the fire to heat it up. Even noting that wind heated fires. That’s a big step. But the understanding that iron was so important, and had so many advantages over bronze, brass and copper, spurred on this major revolutionary effort over decades, until it became reliable, with enough quality for a major use category. We sometimes think we’re so much smarter than these much more primitive people, but we’re not. In many ways, considering where they were starting from, they were so much more advanced in their thinking than we are today.

  • @GeneralChangOfDanang

    @GeneralChangOfDanang

    4 жыл бұрын

    They were the great minds of their day. We still have people like that, we just don't hear about them and they aren't glorified on reality tv and the like.

  • @MrPetrochelly

    @MrPetrochelly

    4 жыл бұрын

    How they made iron tools, rings, etc, in the ancient ages?

  • @kenycharles8600
    @kenycharles86004 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this presentation. I discovered my pyromania at an early age and focused on jobs around furnaces and welding. I have never done what I saw you do. You're a keeper. Enjoy

  • @warren286
    @warren2864 жыл бұрын

    Something just so cool about making things from scratch.

  • @coalsauce4457

    @coalsauce4457

    4 жыл бұрын

    Iys called 'the sense of accomplishment' you get at the end after you sweat your ass off for hours lol

  • @jerrywhidby.

    @jerrywhidby.

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think it's a sense of independence. Knowing that you have the knowledge to create anything you want with some effort. Being dependent on companies to provide for you feels limiting. This sharing of knowledge is very liberating.

  • @TheSushiPlant

    @TheSushiPlant

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jerry Whidby can you share me any knowledge, I’m studying chemistry and I’m way in over my head and i think sand has a lot of meaning if I could melt it

  • @CircumcisionIsChildAbuse

    @CircumcisionIsChildAbuse

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jerry Whidby it's not though...everything they've done was using modern methods and tech...they basically used a leaf blower bellows and also used a magnet to extract iron from sand lmfao this wasn't an experiment it was literally just playing around with iron smelting. If they wanted to do it for real they would have built a kiln, built bellows, and had someone manually bellowing, heating iron ore, crushing it up, heating etc, not...this...this isn't historic lol people didn't have magnets, they heated up pure sand which worked because it was flax and iron already.

  • @msDanielp369

    @msDanielp369

    3 жыл бұрын

    that’s why our modern lives are meaningless as fuck.

  • @steadfasttherenowned2460
    @steadfasttherenowned24604 жыл бұрын

    That is good to have an organization like this. Keep our knowledge alive among the masses.

  • @M3rVsT4H
    @M3rVsT4H4 жыл бұрын

    Hi, really enjoyed the video. Thanks so much for taking the time to film it all and share.

  • @MarkWladika
    @MarkWladika5 жыл бұрын

    The Crucible is a terrific place, thanks for sharing this.

  • @bellhillforge6119
    @bellhillforge61194 жыл бұрын

    Wow! What an amazing organization. I've never seen a bloom produced from sand before. I'm used to seeing larger pieces of iron ore. It was very interesting and informative to watch the process. Thanks for sharing!

  • @RovingPunster

    @RovingPunster

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should watch some videos from Japan on traditional tamahagane smelting ... they use black sand.

  • @ekay4495
    @ekay44953 жыл бұрын

    5:30 "Beautiful, beautiful thing that happens" Lava looking Slag explodes into the air

  • @AimlessSavant

    @AimlessSavant

    3 жыл бұрын

    *fucking dies*

  • @clayandsteel
    @clayandsteel5 жыл бұрын

    It was actually sphengum moss that we used. Not peet moss. I don't know why I said that

  • @sagebrushrepair

    @sagebrushrepair

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Celeste. Nice job. You are a lovely and talented woman.

  • @laurenmabe4932

    @laurenmabe4932

    5 жыл бұрын

    Celeste you are are the best part of this whole video, your enthusiasm is contagious!

  • @clayandsteel

    @clayandsteel

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@laurenmabe4932 thank you! It's also a testament to good editing.

  • @HootMaRoot

    @HootMaRoot

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sphagnum moss is peat moss

  • @toddgillespie8165

    @toddgillespie8165

    4 жыл бұрын

    Have you tried adding a hot blast system to the intake air?

  • @mikestromberg5288
    @mikestromberg52885 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see another video from you!

  • @abitoftheuniverse2852
    @abitoftheuniverse28523 жыл бұрын

    Her enthusiasm is hearthwarming.

  • @ActiveAtom
    @ActiveAtom4 жыл бұрын

    What a great shared story of iron, we enjoyed this video. It is very interesting to watch. Thank you. Lance & Patrick.

  • @xipietotec
    @xipietotec3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Celeste, glad you’re doing well in your artistic pursuits. I went to high school with Celeste and she was a very talented artist whom at that time was mostly practicing 2D art from my memory, but has become a badass blacksmith. Hella cool.

  • @Felenari
    @Felenari5 жыл бұрын

    Used to volunteer for the crucible in the toolshop. Tons of fun, learned a lot.

  • @supersonic060

    @supersonic060

    4 жыл бұрын

    did you ever produce metal from ore? or was it only used for melting/remelting?

  • @Felenari

    @Felenari

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@supersonic060 when I was there we only forged from stock or scrap metal.

  • @joeleonetti8976
    @joeleonetti89764 жыл бұрын

    I've been at The Crucible a number of times for woodworking tool events. It is a real gem of a place.

  • @hmidasliman6504
    @hmidasliman65044 жыл бұрын

    I feel like humans have always loved, since very ancient ages, making iron or steel from iron ore, charcoal and fire using the same process, all over the world , and this pleasure still continues .... thanks for the nice video.

  • @nikolaradakovic5050
    @nikolaradakovic50504 жыл бұрын

    Celeste what an artistic and passionate soul

  • @charris5700
    @charris57004 жыл бұрын

    Awesome smithing vid Celeste. The crucible program sounds really cool. The Japanese have been using iron sand throughout the past feudal ages to make all of their awesome blades for Katana/Naginata/Yari..

  • @freedomm323
    @freedomm3234 ай бұрын

    Practice makes perfect, I'd say it was a huge success. Imagine this process being improved through generations upon generations

  • @chain3519
    @chain35193 жыл бұрын

    I miss this channel

  • @3693G
    @3693G5 жыл бұрын

    Very cool, thanks for sharing!

  • @tinayoga8844
    @tinayoga88445 жыл бұрын

    It is great that you have had this enriching experience. Thanks for sharing it.

  • @GoodandBasic
    @GoodandBasic4 жыл бұрын

    We've done this over on our channel several times. Always good to see more interest in such a fundamental process. JB

  • @HanstheTraffer
    @HanstheTraffer5 жыл бұрын

    Reminds me of my old hippie days doing pottery. This is obviously far more difficult. Great video. Glad to see folks teaching themselves this stuff.

  • @clayandsteel

    @clayandsteel

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's pretty closely related. We handbuild the furnace and the treat iron like clay

  • @stevefranks9873
    @stevefranks98735 жыл бұрын

    Love your video. It's great to hear about your challenges as well as your successes. Such a detailed process description too. Very enjoyable to watch. Thanks for posting!

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N5 жыл бұрын

    Very cool! 😁 Thanks for the video.

  • @Bramble451
    @Bramble4514 жыл бұрын

    6:20 - damn, you just might have solved a very, very old question. An Assyrian king wrote to a Hittite king asking for iron. The Hittite king replied that it was a bad time of year for making iron. That's always seemed like a puzzling thing for him to say. But if it's winter (Anatolia gets snow in the winter, and is ringed by mountains) and the air used in the bellows(?) was too cold, so that you can't heat up the furnace enough... suddenly that statement makes sense! P.S. I pass by the Crucible on BART all the time!

  • @KennyRider137

    @KennyRider137

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very intriguing!

  • @RovingPunster

    @RovingPunster

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is interesting, except for 2 things. First, the ancient hittites and egyptians lived at a lattitude that never saw snow ... winters were/are very temperate in their region. Second, with the temp inside the forge pushing 2300-2500F, a few tens of degrees difference on ambient air aint gonna have a lot of impact.

  • @TheLtVoss

    @TheLtVoss

    4 жыл бұрын

    Indeed even modern Blastfurnaces heat preheat the air

  • @javiercm7727

    @javiercm7727

    3 жыл бұрын

    But colder air also means more oxigen per volume.. Also heat looses through the walls get increased when colder...interesting!!

  • @ShneekeyTheLost

    @ShneekeyTheLost

    3 жыл бұрын

    The poor timing probably more relates to their own personal weapon-making tempo. "Sorry, bro. This is the season we devote to the military contracts, try again later."

  • @Bronnergus
    @Bronnergus4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Machine Thinking, I miss your videos! They are great, come back to make some more when you can!

  • @ricksmith9086
    @ricksmith90864 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your video, Iron from Sand. It was more explanatory than most I have seen. If you plan to do this again I would be interested in signing up for a smelting class or at least volunteering. I have been experimenting with smelting here in Alaska with several mediums that have become saturated with iron from ground water , same theory as Bog ore. Each time I learn something new but I would like to see someone else's operation in person. Rick

  • @christopherstmarin
    @christopherstmarin4 жыл бұрын

    Her enthusiasm for doing this project is very sweet. Literally like a child opening presents Christmas morning. Lovely to see and enjoy.

  • @dave_in_florida
    @dave_in_florida3 жыл бұрын

    that is the most intelligent informative discussion of smelting, with well edited illustrations i have seen!

  • @stanleyyeep1
    @stanleyyeep1Ай бұрын

    Is good to bring back alive of a old traditional blacksmith trade. I was a blacksmith since 7 yrs old for almost 32 yrs following my father in Spore. We use to manufacture crowbars, hand tools, tongs, spanner, etc. but the gov had deter the trade by not issuing anymore license. I still remembered using the church hill spring leaf forger which have more impact power than the pneumatic type. Is so good that someone is rejuvenating the blacksmith trade where the young ones does not know what is it.

  • @geoffbackman6347
    @geoffbackman63473 жыл бұрын

    I just found this channel.... no posts for a year. Where did everybody go!?! Please some back....

  • @mikemarler8224

    @mikemarler8224

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check his website. The follow-up vid is there, and a few comments about why he pulled it from youtube. I expect he'll be back here soon.

  • @dr.lexwinter8604

    @dr.lexwinter8604

    3 жыл бұрын

    Please some back what?

  • @geoffbackman6347

    @geoffbackman6347

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Lex Winter *come Also didn’t know you had a website. Will check out immediately. Thanks for the replies.

  • @MosinMaster
    @MosinMaster Жыл бұрын

    Super cool video! This is exactly how the feudal Japanese swordsmiths made their blades. They didn't have a reliable source of high quality iron ore, so they used iron sands in a bloomery furnace. The resulting iron was then chipped off, flattened and then formed into ingots, which would then be folded hundreds of times to evenly distribute the carbon content, making primitive steel.

  • @jonajo9757

    @jonajo9757

    10 ай бұрын

    They did have high quality ores such as mochi tetsu, which is basically high purity magnetite/lodestones. These were abundant and easy to aquire. For folding, only about 10 or so times depending if it was iron or steel.

  • @allangibson8494

    @allangibson8494

    6 ай бұрын

    Current day Japanese swordsmiths use the exact same technique… (yes, they still exist).

  • @bengluyas4104
    @bengluyas41044 жыл бұрын

    Such a fascinating and beautiful process to watch. Thank you for sharing 🙏🏻

  • @tymiklic6463
    @tymiklic64634 жыл бұрын

    i just wanted to say that i think what you do is very important and these skills must never be lost..i am a master mason in stone and brickwork and i know how essential it is that these skills be kept and taught...thanx..gday from oz...Ty

  • @mustang2440
    @mustang24402 жыл бұрын

    What an amazing community project! I'd love to get involved in a project like this!

  • @Stealth4g63
    @Stealth4g635 жыл бұрын

    Its a Goood Day when Machine Thinking releases a new video!

  • @samueldwyer3563
    @samueldwyer35633 жыл бұрын

    I'm a new subscriber of yours, and I am blown away by your visuals. Thank you for the work you do!

  • @donmattuuks3988
    @donmattuuks39884 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful video. Keep up the amazing work y'all do.

  • @josephkeeney4789
    @josephkeeney47894 жыл бұрын

    I worked for Valley Mould & Iron back in the 70's . We made moulds for the steel mills.I was at the Cleveland works.

  • @zgd100
    @zgd1005 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Reminds me of the late Christopher Roy's videos on West African iron smelting.

  • @curt149k

    @curt149k

    4 жыл бұрын

    Buro Dackel You're an epic dick.

  • @rjamsbury1
    @rjamsbury15 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to seeing the art piece. A fascinating journey.

  • @sagebrushrepair

    @sagebrushrepair

    5 жыл бұрын

    It won't disappoint. It's just unspeakably awesome.

  • @heyimamaker
    @heyimamaker4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, I loved watching the process!

  • @Kire1120
    @Kire11204 жыл бұрын

    "Gently hit it with sledgehammers" lol. Cool video.

  • @judgeomega

    @judgeomega

    3 жыл бұрын

    as a former metal worker and demolition specialist, when it comes to sledgehammers... there is no such thing as gently

  • @mocopower5
    @mocopower54 жыл бұрын

    This is amazing I've love to be a part of this, even as a volunteer

  • @saiffyros

    @saiffyros

    4 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5x3s9CqfpzSZLw.html

  • @davidpotter3777
    @davidpotter37774 жыл бұрын

    Love it ! Love the history part and the fire truck. You looked so happy and excited. Use to live by a park in Jersey and they had an old blast furnace for making iron for cannon balls.God bless you and your family Aloha

  • @clayandsteel

    @clayandsteel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aww. Thank you. It's a labor of love

  • @lucianoguerra9013
    @lucianoguerra90134 жыл бұрын

    I liked it. Thank you Loader. I have not done it in a long time. But it's a lot of fun to go through it step by step.

  • @johns.4152
    @johns.41525 жыл бұрын

    I was worried we'd not get another video

  • @konradgrigoriew2172

    @konradgrigoriew2172

    5 жыл бұрын

    🦐

  • @americanlivesmatter-BmanWild

    @americanlivesmatter-BmanWild

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was worried we would 😂

  • @Automatic-Diaphragm

    @Automatic-Diaphragm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@americanlivesmatter-BmanWild And yeah, this was the last one...

  • @tellthemborissentyou
    @tellthemborissentyou4 жыл бұрын

    A fantastic video. New Zealand Steel still makes steel from iron sand but they don't use a blast furnace, instead they use a rotary kiln to reduce the iron to avoid some of the problems you discovered.

  • @saltefan5925

    @saltefan5925

    4 жыл бұрын

    You don't really want to make rust by letting it oxidize

  • @sgct89
    @sgct897 ай бұрын

    If this was a series on Netflix I'd be addicted

  • @jeremyli2871
    @jeremyli28714 жыл бұрын

    Great work Celeste.

  • @1337fraggzb00N
    @1337fraggzb00N4 жыл бұрын

    I once got sand out of sand. It was slightly anticlimactic.

  • @MrUbiquitousTech

    @MrUbiquitousTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    I hope you got it on video!

  • @1337fraggzb00N

    @1337fraggzb00N

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrUbiquitousTech it is classified now. Them Saharas do not want me to share the secret of sand.

  • @MrUbiquitousTech

    @MrUbiquitousTech

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@1337fraggzb00N Darn, that could have been revolutionary!

  • @1337fraggzb00N

    @1337fraggzb00N

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@MrUbiquitousTech indeed, old chap, indeed.

  • @markschwarz2137

    @markschwarz2137

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Joe Devola No waiting involved, it's just what she said every time after our carnal interludes. Great video, but you can't lob me up a free shot alike that and expect me not to take a swing at it.

  • @JamesChristopherCraig
    @JamesChristopherCraig5 жыл бұрын

    A new Machine Thinking video? I've got so much time for that.

  • @Kolajer
    @Kolajer5 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you back

  • @JustinTopp
    @JustinTopp4 жыл бұрын

    I’m going to be making bloom iron from bog ore and I’m excited. This was super cool!

  • @Just_Sara
    @Just_Sara5 жыл бұрын

    I'd never heard of using flux in these, that's cool to know. Thanks!

  • @3693G

    @3693G

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, without the flux you will need to burn much hotter.

  • @SomeAustrianGuy

    @SomeAustrianGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    If you use iron ore, there are a lot of silicates in it. These would normally be the flux, they only had to add Sand, because their Source of iron was very pure.

  • @workwithnature
    @workwithnature4 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained. Especially having enough flux. With some of those big peaces how do you bring it back up to heat for forge welding?

  • @clayandsteel

    @clayandsteel

    4 жыл бұрын

    We have large natural gas forges

  • @oldstudbuck3583

    @oldstudbuck3583

    3 жыл бұрын

    @MrLeading Entertainment there’s no way to know for sure who was first. One thing is for sure, the whole world benefits from it today. The world doesn’t benefit from hyper sensitive, constantly offended, history revisionist liberals. So take another pill and put your mask back on. FYI - Trump, the man of steel, is getting four more years because of voters like me.

  • @josiahtheblacksmith467

    @josiahtheblacksmith467

    3 жыл бұрын

    @MrLeading Entertainment Not taking anything away from the independent discovery in Africa but the Hittites were the first to smelt iron about 1000 years before the Haya did. They first smelted iron around 1500 bce not 500bce as the time table you supplied for the Haya. However if they were reliably making steel at that time that is an impressive accomplishment at that period. Universities were created first by the Ethiopian empire though.

  • @timothyandrewnielsen

    @timothyandrewnielsen

    3 жыл бұрын

    They had white africans back then?

  • @jeremybradley559

    @jeremybradley559

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@oldstudbuck3583 oh yeah , bring that devil of a being into it. Someone should smelt a piece of lead and give it to him yesterday. Give it to him fast , like super sonic between the eyes. Trump can F off to hell. He won’t be in Whitehouse again thank glob.

  • @charlesprokopp276
    @charlesprokopp2764 жыл бұрын

    A group of us Tucson Neotribal Metalsmiths did this some years back, using the same materials and processes. Great fun and a respectable bloom that eventually became a very handsome knife!

  • @sagebrushrepair

    @sagebrushrepair

    4 жыл бұрын

    NICE! Do you have any photos from this time?

  • @charlesprokopp276

    @charlesprokopp276

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sagebrushrepair I didn't take any pictures of the festivities. It took place at Tai Goo's workshop out in the desert north of Tucson. Tai's a Master Bladesmith and has a website that may have some shots from the weekend some years ago.

  • @Martin-pb7ts
    @Martin-pb7ts4 жыл бұрын

    This is a fantastic effort. Loved this video.

  • @nettles89
    @nettles895 жыл бұрын

    A lot of hate in the comments so far for this one! Who woulda thunk that primitive iron smelting would be controversial? Of course there can always be improvements, but it's an informative, interesting, and I'd argue *good* video. Thanks!

  • @tinayoga8844

    @tinayoga8844

    5 жыл бұрын

    The negative comments are from people who have never done anything in the real world. Looking through some of their channels it looks like they are just virtual activities, gaming.

  • @dheujsnrhfydhehehshshhdggsd

    @dheujsnrhfydhehehshshhdggsd

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@tinayoga8844 couldn't be that the "___" have insulted and memory holed so many people that anything associated with them is going to be attacked.

  • @Thefreakyfreek

    @Thefreakyfreek

    5 жыл бұрын

    I don't see them

  • @goldassayer93555
    @goldassayer935554 жыл бұрын

    HI Great video. The way to get a hotter melt is to make a double walled furnace and direct the air between the two walls so it pre-heats before it enters the burning zone in the furnace. the hotter the air for combustion is the hotter the melt will be.

  • @axeguy3856

    @axeguy3856

    4 жыл бұрын

    goldassayer93555 The long iron pipe taking the air in would also heat up and would begin to pre-heat the air fairly quickly but just not as well as a double-walled furnace.

  • @l.rowanmcknight7853
    @l.rowanmcknight78534 жыл бұрын

    Okay, post viewing comment :) This was a great video. I learned a great deal about the actual process of smelting and it makes me even more excited to try it someday. Celeste is a great speaker, and explained things wonderfully. I'm saying 'great' a lot. Must mean I liked it ;)

  • @ErnieNoa3
    @ErnieNoa3 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a great video on iron making!

  • @billbaggins
    @billbaggins5 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting and great to see a new vid from you 👍 Imagine the frustrations of the pioneers of this process without the benefit of hindsight. Thr history and science of metallurgy are truly fascinating and one of the pillars of modern society.

  • @anchorbait6662
    @anchorbait66624 жыл бұрын

    I'm all over this video. Soo content right now :)

  • @deanwicker7057
    @deanwicker70574 жыл бұрын

    This video is why You tube is so much better than TV.

  • @crazystuffproduction
    @crazystuffproduction3 жыл бұрын

    i miss this channel. please post more

  • @machinethinking

    @machinethinking

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re in luck. Looking like tomorrow.

  • @piranha031091
    @piranha0310915 жыл бұрын

    I wonder, how much time and effort did it take for people to first come up with those techniques in ancient times? It boggles the mind!

  • @1pcfred

    @1pcfred

    4 жыл бұрын

    Being as it meant life or death you can say the motivation was there.

  • @jerrywhidby.

    @jerrywhidby.

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bog ores the mind.

  • @TheZenytram

    @TheZenytram

    3 жыл бұрын

    2000 years.

  • @CathodeULT
    @CathodeULT4 жыл бұрын

    She's so dreamy! A lady that knows her iron. 😍

  • @kennethjanczak4900
    @kennethjanczak4900 Жыл бұрын

    Really great. Thanks for taking the to make the video and share it

  • @peteb2
    @peteb24 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Thanks so much for such an incredibly interesting, well presented vid on the process. I learned something new today.

  • @kevinrourke8730
    @kevinrourke87305 жыл бұрын

    There is a smelting festival every year in Ireland!

  • @gregvondare

    @gregvondare

    4 жыл бұрын

    There's got to be a joke in there somewhere...

  • @hugokappes4077

    @hugokappes4077

    3 жыл бұрын

    they do it twice ,, to be sure to be sure !!

  • @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668

    @dolphinboi-playmonsterranc9668

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bet it always smelt bad

  • @lokol-wp9oy
    @lokol-wp9oy4 жыл бұрын

    The best thing ever. Thanks bless for sharing. God bless.

  • @zacharyhenderson2902
    @zacharyhenderson29022 жыл бұрын

    And the ancients used to do this all by hand and modern technology and the knowledge we've built up over thousands of years. It's amazing

  • @j.lahtinen7525
    @j.lahtinen75254 жыл бұрын

    Really makes you appreciate the difficulty that people in the ancient past must have had to get going on producing useful quantities of useful metals. To start out from nothing, inventing and building the processes from scratch. Some very smart, inquisitive and very stubbornly patient people must have been involved.

  • @demonic477
    @demonic4775 жыл бұрын

    I would like to suggest a video for the whole school to watch called ( Smelting Iron in Africa (A DEMONSTRATION) ) it was filmed by the people of the village that built the smeltery they used for the film and shows the basic's of very old smelting technic's similar to the version you built not to crack on your's but as a sampler of a native smeltery as it was done for century's

  • @googacct

    @googacct

    4 жыл бұрын

    I can second that recommendation.

  • @justsomeofmyfavs
    @justsomeofmyfavs4 жыл бұрын

    Small correction: while Hittites conquered Babylon once, their homeland was in central Anatolia (central strip of modern-day Turkey) and not Mesopotamia proper.

  • @clayandsteel

    @clayandsteel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that. That's what I get for trusting a social sciences text book!

  • @efs83dws
    @efs83dws3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve now watched this video three times. It is interesting and educational.

  • @robsonmatias8963
    @robsonmatias89633 жыл бұрын

    Industries of iron and sand. Top!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @KevinATJumpWorks
    @KevinATJumpWorks4 жыл бұрын

    4:01 - The chimney looks like something straight out of an alien movie.

  • @Blackridge.

    @Blackridge.

    4 жыл бұрын

    True, like a spine of some sort. Unique, nevertheless.

  • @KevinATJumpWorks

    @KevinATJumpWorks

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Blackridge. Yeah, right!Or a ribcage or something

  • @wqwwqwqqpoppopoo
    @wqwwqwqqpoppopoo4 жыл бұрын

    Dude imagine making a dagger out of a meteor before iron was even invented

  • @rickybobby2687

    @rickybobby2687

    4 жыл бұрын

    Only the worthy can wield the meteorite dagger of legend

  • @fitofight8540

    @fitofight8540

    4 жыл бұрын

    Iron was not invented

  • @hanchen4721

    @hanchen4721

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Michael Otten and super cool

  • @ElTurbinado

    @ElTurbinado

    4 жыл бұрын

    fitofight non-stupid people understood what the comment meant. did you understand?

  • @kingslayer1963

    @kingslayer1963

    4 жыл бұрын

    Iron itself is foreign to earth, it could be the meteor ur talking about, however no one invented iron as it was discovered no created.

  • @andysmith7731
    @andysmith77314 жыл бұрын

    Great video, much love, God Bless you ALL

  • @angelus_solus
    @angelus_solus4 жыл бұрын

    Seeing the slag running out is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen.

  • @Migueldeservantes
    @Migueldeservantes5 жыл бұрын

    May be totally out of the topic, but one , can't but wonder were that iron comes from & what level of purity it have..... Hey can it actually be use to make steel?? from my humble perspective there's tons of possibilities... great job!!

  • @johnridgeway6718
    @johnridgeway67185 жыл бұрын

    Where does the Iron rich sand come from?

  • @SomeAustrianGuy

    @SomeAustrianGuy

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can find it in most Rivers. Goldrefiners love the black sand, because it also contains a lot of gold.

  • @axeguy3856

    @axeguy3856

    4 жыл бұрын

    FourFive Bootneck They've been making steel in Seki City since the 1200s.

  • @webslinger325

    @webslinger325

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clay

  • @THR33STEP
    @THR33STEP4 жыл бұрын

    That’s fantastic!! Great video!!!

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    wow! i really love your video. the history of steel is full of ancient misconceptions, that usually are just repeated over and over again. ranging from monsoon winds deemed to be strictly necessary in the process, the total overhype of japanese smelters and folding techniques of their sword smiths, without any mention of the chineese that showed it to them while long having blast furnances and no need to fold their steel. btw. some archeologist stumbled over new, highly debated evidence for very early iron production in africa: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_metallurgy_in_Africa i figure maybe that's the reason they where able to smith Tutankhamuns knife from a meteor... but i'm just guessing here, while you guys are certainly the experts in that field.

  • @clayandsteel

    @clayandsteel

    4 жыл бұрын

    The history really is a difficult lineage to trace. I have yet to find a good single source for it. Iron making techniques developed at various different times throughout the world but it's hard to find specifics. I will definitely read that article. I have heard speculation that iron making started earlier than 1500. As far as the dagger in the tomb it has large amounts of nickel in it, which is to this day only found in iron from meteorites. Thank you for sharing!

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    @@clayandsteel people knew to make steel kept it to them, like with wootz steel, African, Indian & Chinese steel, while those who bragged about it always seem to forget who showed it to them... I remember reading about how the first roman gladios made from steel, where made in the Rhineland (either Gauls, or Germanic people. Would be typical for us to sell weapons to everyone, foe included... Kind of a German tradition), but the whole 'holy roman empire' put lots of effort in reclaiming those people savages... History is severely broken. It would help a lot, if every historian would be required to do an apprenticeship as either carpenter, stone Mason, or blacksmith.

  • @jonajo9757

    @jonajo9757

    2 жыл бұрын

    But blast furnaces produce cast iron, don't they? Wouldn't it be unsuitable for forging unless it was decarburized? Wouldn't that also require folding given the process reintroduces impurities into the overall steel?

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonajo9757 nowdays an o2 lance does the trick, back in the day it did involve folding, or any type of being forged, since being worked at reduces carbon content... the trick is to be done with it, when the content is just right... used to involve a lot of singing, or rhyming in order to get the timing and number of punches somewhat consistent and reproducable. how would it 'induce' impurities? smiths use the purest coal they can get, and/or coke it... c turns co2 and leaves the process. carbon can be reintroduced over the course of many ours, in an airtight box, at almost mething temperature when cut in stripes and mixed with coal powder... in general that's to be avoided and 'fresh' furnance steel can always be mixed with lower carbon scrap, in order to not having to work it _just_ to get the carbon out, since you always loose some steel to, due to oxidation, the more you work it. it's quite an art, when you have neither clock, nor thermometer, or any understanding of chemistry, atoms and the like, but apparently trial and error get's you quite a long way. hardness and purity of frankish swords also varied a lot, due to inconsistentcies in knowledge and/or source material, while the chineese equiped entire armies with very consistently produced swords of decent quality. enthusiasts that could afford it, could by very good ones, made from three to five layers and inlets of different carbon content, to get the hard edge and flexible spring hardened ridge.

  • @wfermier
    @wfermier5 жыл бұрын

    Wait! Why was the fire department there? Did someone call because they didn't know what you were doing with a furnace? If so, what did you tell them?

  • @werk62

    @werk62

    4 жыл бұрын

    Schools these days are so obsessed with safety. At my school we had a campfire at the end of the semester and they had the fire department there to supervise it.

  • @sagebrushrepair

    @sagebrushrepair

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well, some might say it's.... their department. Really though it's because someone called them and said there's a huge amount of fire coming from behind a building down the street after business hours.

  • @RovingPunster

    @RovingPunster

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Supreme Leader Spock And all the Helicoptering Parents were probably nervous too. 🤪

  • @michaelmccarthy4615

    @michaelmccarthy4615

    4 жыл бұрын

    The fire department is the law enforcement arm of the EPA and AQMD. Any visable smoke produced is a violation of the clean air act.... you're lucky you weren't fined and jailed. ;) jk.....

  • @mennovanlavieren3885

    @mennovanlavieren3885

    4 жыл бұрын

    Most likely it is because of the sparks blowing out of the furnace. They can start fires elsewhere. And if it is not the sparks, then it is people being people.

  • @tiatemjentzudir4998
    @tiatemjentzudir49984 жыл бұрын

    Well the job done successfully wasn't that easy to achieve at all...that was really just incredible congratulations to all your team💎

  • @ogrehaslayers605
    @ogrehaslayers6054 жыл бұрын

    Wow! This was so much fun to watch!

  • @AwesometownUSA
    @AwesometownUSA5 жыл бұрын

    tuyere flux slag etc. would be nice if these terms were explained, even just briefly either way thx for the video, it was pretty “metal” !! haha, get it? ‘cause metal.

  • @zoesdada8923

    @zoesdada8923

    5 жыл бұрын

    Do some research

  • @AwesometownUSA

    @AwesometownUSA

    5 жыл бұрын

    Zoes Dada no.

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