Iron smelting in the early medieval slag drop shaft furnace, making iron

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Because of Covid-19 the Long Night of Museums in many museums was canceled but some of them decided to do something despite the virus. Historical and archeological Museum in Elbląg prepared a virtual show about the metallurgy in Truso - Viking age emporium.
#officinaferraria

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  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard79602 жыл бұрын

    Tough work six hundred years ago no easier today to recreate the simple history! Thanks guys, really interesting!

  • @joshschneider9766

    @joshschneider9766

    8 ай бұрын

    By the fourteen hundreds they had blast furnaces that totally took over for these and rendered them completely antiquated.

  • @alexadamson9959
    @alexadamson9959 Жыл бұрын

    This must have been one of the most shitty jobs ever. But at the same time, you look absolutely badass doing it. There’s something about dragging a ball of flaming metal around and then proceeding to beat the shit out of it with a hammer that commands respect.

  • @3vanguardofthephoenix335

    @3vanguardofthephoenix335

    Жыл бұрын

    I think emptying chamberpots would be more... shitty

  • @timberwolf1575
    @timberwolf15753 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work. Understanding how much work this is/was makes you appreciate modern furnaces, blowers, and power hammers more. A lot of blood, burns, and sweat goes into a smelt.

  • @Allyourbase1990
    @Allyourbase19903 ай бұрын

    I’ve always wondered how they got furnaces hot enough to melt Metal back then . This is so cool

  • @ricardoaquino1562
    @ricardoaquino15624 күн бұрын

    Great job!, thank you all for showing how hard is to get metal. 👍👍🙏

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend2 жыл бұрын

    I have to say, this is ideal as opposed to an automatic blower. You have so much more control over the amount of airflow at any given time. I was just watching another video in which the blower was so strong it was blowing their ore and charcoal right out the top. It's just more work.

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes. U r right, bellows gives much more control to the process and are more historical one.

  • @bonbonpony

    @bonbonpony

    2 жыл бұрын

    It also seems to be a good idea to have two bellows to work in parallel, as in this video. Then one of the bellow is still blowing while the other one is restoring, maintaning a constant flow of air :)

  • @jonash5320

    @jonash5320

    Жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria did you end up with cast iron due to all the coal? If so how do you reduce the carbon content of the iron to more useful concentrations?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonash5320 i can control carbon content by charcoal/ore ratio. Less charcoal gives less carbon in the bloom (in theory of course)

  • @sygnusadun4832

    @sygnusadun4832

    Жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria whats your ideal ratio? I see many people saying that 500g of ore to 2kilo of charcoal.

  • @fourgedmushrooms5958
    @fourgedmushrooms5958 Жыл бұрын

    Looks like fun! Love the hand forged bucket ❤

  • @cvdheyden
    @cvdheydenАй бұрын

    Good job guys!! A huge loop, very impressive!

  • @NSP70
    @NSP70Ай бұрын

    No eye protection. Brilliant.

  • @thiernosow11
    @thiernosow1123 күн бұрын

    Incredible, this is exactly how we do it in Africa too, funny how we came up with the same ideas while separated by thousands of kilometers

  • @Illien0
    @Illien0 Жыл бұрын

    Good video, thankyou for posting!

  • @varun009
    @varun009 Жыл бұрын

    Besides trapping, the American fur trade, which resulted in many of America's great trails being blazed, was carried on the back of steel. Native Americans would trade many pelts for steel in the form of knives initially and later hammers and raw stock. Very interesting stuff. I was in a village in India about 17 years ago and my mother thought to bring them some mirrors. I remember us giving out these tiny 6x6 mirrors and they were stoked! Apparently, they only had one in the village and it in the bathroom of a government building. People rarely had access to it. It's so easy to take for granted the technological, industrial and logistical apatatus that makes mirrors (something once highly prized) something disposable. Amazin.

  • @Hyratel

    @Hyratel

    Жыл бұрын

    and we're now on like... 5th or 6th iteration of "mirror" - first was highly-polished copper or brass (very high maintenance), then came proto-industrial glass and Silvering processes making a Silver-on-glass mirror an elite luxury. then the advancement to Float Glass brought it to the masses. and then more recently we've shifted from Silver backed mirrors to Aluminum backed mirrors

  • @jawdatfares2831
    @jawdatfares28313 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again that was awesome to see keep up the good work we love you guys,,,that was awesome,,,we ont Moore of this project, s

  • @MrThijzer
    @MrThijzer5 ай бұрын

    Very well done, especially the bloom forging !

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you Thijs :-)

  • @py2rpjrubens450
    @py2rpjrubens450 Жыл бұрын

    A Big job! TNX for sharing! 73 from Brasil

  • @richardcook555
    @richardcook5553 жыл бұрын

    Do you add any flux like limestone or shells with your charcoal and ore? Do you roast the ore first? Very nice video.

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    3 жыл бұрын

    I do not use any flux. No, In this experiment I didn't roast the ore (it is hematite ore and roasting is not necessary)

  • @JS-jh4cy
    @JS-jh4cy2 ай бұрын

    Good, way to work up a sweat, and getting something useful done, rather than just going to a damn spa

  • @user-uk9wf5yw7x
    @user-uk9wf5yw7x2 ай бұрын

    Just what I need for my students thanx!

  • @evgeniykhalzov4725
    @evgeniykhalzov4725Ай бұрын

    Интересно еще и литьё бронзы. Как древние металурги догадались совмещать медь и цинк, что.ы получилась бронза. Хотя железо это тоже интересно.

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    28 күн бұрын

    copper and zinc alloy is brass, bronze is copper and tin alloy.

  • @caladin002
    @caladin0024 жыл бұрын

    How do you know how high/low to punch the hole to bleed off the slag?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    4 жыл бұрын

    when slag starts to block the blowing hole than i make a hole about 5-10 cm below slag level.

  • @JS-jh4cy
    @JS-jh4cy2 ай бұрын

    Shit, almost burnt the cottage or house down

  • @jessicag630
    @jessicag6306 ай бұрын

    Great re-enactment. Do you have any videos discussing where they sourced the iron ore and how they recognized and collected it?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    6 ай бұрын

    No, but I am thinking to make a video about iron ores.

  • @abab-gj4dd
    @abab-gj4ddАй бұрын

    what type of hat is that in the thumbnail preview?

  • @domenigo97
    @domenigo97 Жыл бұрын

    Very well done I would love to know how high the carbon content is at this point. Am I right if I assume that it is rather high? I really don't know much about metallurgy

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    Жыл бұрын

    The carbon content in the iron bloom depends on the temperature in the furnace and the charcoal/ore charging ratio. Usually, it is rather low carbon content. Low carbon, soft iron this is result what we want to get.

  • @domenigo97

    @domenigo97

    Жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria Allright, thanks for the explanation 👍

  • @newageofsail3877

    @newageofsail3877

    3 ай бұрын

    @@officinaferraria But then not so very useful for knives, axes, swords, gun barrels, that need to be high-carbon, high-tensile steel.

  • @juozaskavaliauskas8844
    @juozaskavaliauskas8844 Жыл бұрын

    Labai patiko!

  • @onanysundrymule3144
    @onanysundrymule31442 жыл бұрын

    Kind Sir, what would be the proportion/ratio of iron ore to charcoal, by measure of weight please. Kind regards.

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    2 жыл бұрын

    ratio is 1:1

  • @bonbonpony
    @bonbonpony2 жыл бұрын

    Skąd wzięliście rudę i jaki to rodzaj rudy? Ciemny proch, więc wygląda na magnetyt.

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    2 жыл бұрын

    To jest przeprażony hematyt. O ile dobrze pamiętam to kanadyjski.

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider97668 ай бұрын

    Ive always wondered if it would be nore efficient to powderize the charcoal. And maybe mix with the ore and maybe charge both at once. Melting silica mix down into glass for blowing and casting is sooo much easier.

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    8 ай бұрын

    For the smelting process to proceed properly, spaces are needed between the pieces of charcoal, pulverization will result in loss of circulation in the furnace.

  • @newageofsail3877

    @newageofsail3877

    3 ай бұрын

    @@officinaferraria In traditional Japanese tatara smelting, the tatara is initially loaded with alternating layers of river sand and charcoal, then lit, then more charcoal is added during the smelting process. See this video of the Nittoho tatara smelter: (kzread.info/dash/bejne/oYurx6tmn7rQYLQ.html).

  • @romelcasillas2286
    @romelcasillas22868 ай бұрын

    *in the old days* "Hey guys, let's heat up some dirt and when it's all cool looking let's beat it with big hammers to see what we can make". 🤣

  • @thurst6510
    @thurst65103 жыл бұрын

    Bad ass!

  • @SenorTucano
    @SenorTucano Жыл бұрын

    How much of the iron bloom is lost in the hammering process?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    Жыл бұрын

    during whole iron bloome processing (compacting by mallets, forging, and forge-welding) there is 50% to 70% losses of the original weight.

  • @rogerthedodger5788
    @rogerthedodger57884 ай бұрын

    We are witnessing the death throws of the bronze age. A huge technological leap for mankind. A metal that could be repaired if broken unlike bronze.

  • @user-ug5sb6qg1u

    @user-ug5sb6qg1u

    22 күн бұрын

    Bronze can be forge welded, it's just easier to recast it. The only advantage iron has over bronze is added strength and wear resistance.

  • @GeorgiDimitrovX
    @GeorgiDimitrovX Жыл бұрын

    Crazy how they filmed this in the 14th century

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    Жыл бұрын

    X century:-)

  • @Barmaley80x

    @Barmaley80x

    Ай бұрын

    Сложнее всего было с цифровыми носителями.

  • @christianvoss8614
    @christianvoss8614 Жыл бұрын

    The beginning of this video sounds like inside of Mordor or something

  • @dogodogo5891
    @dogodogo58913 жыл бұрын

    hi this is so amazing, if u had ore with low enough granular size say almost like talc powder, will it reduce energy consumption and increase yield of pure Fe?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    3 жыл бұрын

    rather no.

  • @dogodogo5891

    @dogodogo5891

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria any reason?

  • @branni6538

    @branni6538

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dogodogo5891 iron yield=yes. Energy consumption=no. There are ways to conserve energy and lesson the consumption of energy expenditure both in terms of carbon char used and bowls of porridge used to pump the bellows. None of which are shown here. You,'ll have to figure it out.

  • @MrWTPunk
    @MrWTPunk3 жыл бұрын

    Good work, good video 👍 It is so silent without electric blower... Was the bloom containing a good amount of carbon? Also, do you know of to obtain high carbon steel everytime? Maybe letting the bloom longer in the furnace?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    3 жыл бұрын

    the goal of this experiment is to get low carbon alloy. I carburize it in different process. To get high carbon bloom directly in the furnace, the ore/charcoal ratio must be changed, more charcoal less ore. The hard wood charcoal gives usually better bloom carburize.

  • @MrWTPunk

    @MrWTPunk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria Thank you for your answer. If I link good in my head, you carburize it in an Aristotle furnace, after. Why? What are the advantages to get iron and then proceed to another step to get steel? Good to know for hardwood. Do you know both ratios? Sorry for the amount of questions

  • @MrWTPunk

    @MrWTPunk

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria I was thinking about it... Maybe what you get after you carburize the bloom is near Oroshigane, so the steel you get doesn't need to be welded "at nauseam"?

  • @bonbonpony

    @bonbonpony

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrWTPunk My guess is that it's better to carburize it afterwards because the iron is more clean at that time, and it might be easier to control the proportions. Also if you add more carbon to the bloomery, it might get wasted anyway during the processing later, so it would be rather pointless.

  • @indicator27
    @indicator2726 күн бұрын

    to what purpose does the layer of dirt serve, separation from the wood ash from i assume logs to start that fire, and the real charcoal, to burn it slower? WHOAAAAA THAT ISNT A FLAMING INGOT THAT IS A METEORITE

  • @tothista4477
    @tothista44773 жыл бұрын

    Super big bog!

  • @kevinstacey2231
    @kevinstacey22313 жыл бұрын

    Artisian iron?

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs2713 жыл бұрын

    why were they using wooden hammers?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    3 жыл бұрын

    The iron bloom is very brittle just after extraction from the furnace that why we use a "soft" wooden hammer and wooden anvil.

  • @wullebulle123
    @wullebulle1232 жыл бұрын

    what is that lava flowing out made of

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is slag. Mostly it is iron silicate.

  • @user-pv6cl3oo4p
    @user-pv6cl3oo4pАй бұрын

    how many kilograms of coal does it take to make an iron?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    28 күн бұрын

    about 40 kg

  • @user-pv6cl3oo4p

    @user-pv6cl3oo4p

    28 күн бұрын

    @@officinaferraria thanks

  • @r0llinguphill483
    @r0llinguphill4833 жыл бұрын

    Man I love staring at a bucket while they work the bloom

  • @SreyleakSy
    @SreyleakSy2 ай бұрын

    Hero❤

  • @intactsaphir5191
    @intactsaphir51913 жыл бұрын

    bonjour, combien de tonnes de bois pour fabriquer 1 kg de fer?

  • @hmidasliman6504

    @hmidasliman6504

    2 жыл бұрын

    100 kg peut etre?

  • @Zx_Wizard
    @Zx_Wizard2 жыл бұрын

    Красавцы! Глаза берегите! Почему не все в очках работают?

  • @alexa.davronov1537

    @alexa.davronov1537

    Жыл бұрын

    Хопа, русскоговорящий! Тоже историю металлургии изучаем? Печь называется сыродутой.

  • @ryangreen1588
    @ryangreen15887 ай бұрын

    keeping it real medieval with lack of safety glasses lol...

  • @dieselphiend
    @dieselphiend2 жыл бұрын

    Why not let the entire thing just cool slowly? Let it sit a full 24 hours before breaking open. Wouldn't that produce a better end product?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    2 жыл бұрын

    The iron bloom must be extract as hot as possible if not there is no way to clean it up (there is lot of slag which should be remove) and compact.

  • @dieselphiend

    @dieselphiend

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria Couldn't you just reheat it for consolidation?

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    2 жыл бұрын

    The iron bloom inside the furnace is cover by slag and when the slag is liquid it is easy to remove it. The bloom extraction when the furnace is cool down is very difficult so that's why we do it when the furnace is still hot.

  • @dieselphiend

    @dieselphiend

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@officinaferraria Thank you for the explanation.

  • @richardwilloubly8285
    @richardwilloubly82858 ай бұрын

    Enjoy your work but fear of the metal can’t come into the forge.but he will learn

  • @alauda525
    @alauda5253 жыл бұрын

    Кузнецы-колдуны, что с огнём играют🔥

  • @timhaakenson916
    @timhaakenson9165 ай бұрын

    IM DOING THIS TYPE OF SHlT ANYWAY

  • @mohamadourika4031
    @mohamadourika4031 Жыл бұрын

    👍🌹🌹🌹🌹💌

  • @jeancollin8224
    @jeancollin82245 ай бұрын

    Der Titel ist nicht korrekt. Eisen ist das Resultat der EisenERZverhüttung!

  • @user-ug5sb6qg1u

    @user-ug5sb6qg1u

    22 күн бұрын

    What do you think that red powder they put in the furnace was, paprika?

  • @erossutrisno
    @erossutrisno Жыл бұрын

    the grass were ruined

  • @Ziom56_Raksek
    @Ziom56_Raksek5 ай бұрын

    Polak potrafi

  • @user-dx1ty8nl8c
    @user-dx1ty8nl8c4 ай бұрын

    С чужого видео копирует вор.

  • @stephaneduena6177
    @stephaneduena61773 жыл бұрын

    La flamme n'est pas belle

  • @andrezweerus1612
    @andrezweerus1612 Жыл бұрын

    Next time a woman complains about men 'never knowing the pain of childbirth', show her this 😄

  • @officinaferraria

    @officinaferraria

    Жыл бұрын

    :-)

  • @abdalrohmanmousa7405
    @abdalrohmanmousa740523 күн бұрын

    This is the worst kind of steal you could buy

  • @pedrogarzagarciadetrevino9530
    @pedrogarzagarciadetrevino953029 күн бұрын

    Boring!

  • @user-go9qs8ip2u
    @user-go9qs8ip2u7 ай бұрын

    После такого видео на обычный молоток или гвозди смотришь немного другими глазами... Мы избалованы современной металлургией.

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