Something’s WAY off with the parents… not only do they seem cold, detached, in denial, and indifferent, but I’m curious to understand more of how Kelly grew up… it would probably explain Kelly’s psychology better.

@GenX1968

3 ай бұрын

Why do you think she’s the way she is??? Have these people never heard of condoms and birth control pills??

@BlazeBuds

3 ай бұрын

Her parents were there for her, they loved her going off this. Even the pressure alone doesn't make someone a child killer

@jesaenza69

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, the parents were making it seem like because she was a great swimmer, she couldn’t possibly have killed her fifth child. Give me a break.

@kathybrooks452

3 ай бұрын

You noticed that too Yes they helped with her mental 😢

@deeyoung8611

3 ай бұрын

That mom is highly defensive…

The mother is in such denial it's absolutely sickening

@mariannahusztik

3 ай бұрын

The mother did not want to accept anything "normal" under her roof, and she turned a blind eye to it. As things escalated, they play as if they don't know in order to avoid responsibility.

@ac6094

3 ай бұрын

And so defensive

@Annsunshine30

2 ай бұрын

Could she have been in on it?

@FloridaIsFull

2 ай бұрын

More sickening than Keli murdering her kids?

@aviek2970

2 ай бұрын

Seems exponentially worse than just denial. She's gotta be delusional.

"Are we hashing out every little detail?" Mother is mentally unstable. Something is off with her. There seems to be some serious disconnect. Father is off too.

@sarahferguson3732

3 ай бұрын

The way she said that n her body language 🤔

@molliwilson5639

3 ай бұрын

What weird, disconnected parents

@marilynschmidt6400

2 ай бұрын

Keli's parents parenting styles are of that era. Not healthy and very off.

@emilyemily444

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, parents of this era are like this, my mother is almost identical to this woman, even the mannerisms & pretending she 'had no clue'. My mother has damaged my entire family- but no one (apart from myself) calls out her destructive behaviour due to her corrosive clap-backs. Naturally, I'm the black sheep of the family because I choose not to be a doormat for my mothers immature, victim mentality.

@Tiredmum

2 ай бұрын

Sociopaths raising a sociopath

The coach has more emotional connection to Kelli than her own parents. Speaks volumes.

I can understand one unplanned pregnancy, but I can’t get my head around why she kept on having more unplanned pregnancies, it’s not like she’s living in the early 1900 century.

@CassandraJay

3 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@Kelly-nt2rq

3 ай бұрын

As someone who is also "immune" to birth control, it happens. Her boyfriend said she was on the pill. I was on the pill with my first pregnancy. Then I was on the pill and the patch with my second.

@jillijane9793

2 ай бұрын

​@@Kelly-nt2rqthere are many other forms of birth control

@Kelly-nt2rq

2 ай бұрын

@@jillijane9793 correct I was on two forms and got pregnant. Twice.

@Venus-gn5oi

2 ай бұрын

I know several women who are like that. But then again when Covid showed clearly how sloppy people are when it comes to prevention.

Like that mother ever hugged her daughter long enough to notice that pregnancy. When you're close to your kids you notice everything. The mother with the "look how thin she is"... Well, did you ever ask her if she's ok or if shes got a problem with food because, you know, she was soooo thin? No. That woman is EXACTLY like my mother was. A cold fish.

@lindaholtzhausen1539

3 ай бұрын

And daughter sleeps around like a fish!

@archerandthemouse

3 ай бұрын

Not true. I use to work in labor and delivery, I have given birth 5 times, I am usually the first to notice when someone is pregnant very early on but I had no clue that someone I love dearly and was very close to, lived with, was pregnant and had to go through a very traumatic abortion twice because they missed the placenta.

@rcristy

2 ай бұрын

@@archerandthemouse not your child.

@archerandthemouse

2 ай бұрын

@@rcristy that is an assumption...

@telsclark

2 ай бұрын

​@@rcristyprobably her child that is why she wont say what relative this was.

The way the mother deflects with “I didn’t know that” is so telling. It’s all about protecting her image. Sick family

@jolo3118

3 ай бұрын

I just said the same thing just a second ago and then saw yours. It's so obvious though, right? She's definitely got issues but she wasn't thinking of her parents when she did everything that she did.

@Kelly-nt2rq

3 ай бұрын

She just wants to absolve herself of any blame. I would say NPD. My mom is diagnosed and acts alot like that. Horrible

@tanjaandpeterragonesi2607

3 ай бұрын

Agree completely. The mom makes me extremely uncomfortable.

@GingerNinja1

2 ай бұрын

​@@tanjaandpeterragonesi2607 I literally just came to that thought myself while watching!

@deevillarreal9475

2 ай бұрын

Very much the only Importants

I don’t like the mother whatsoever, something about her is so arrogant and off putting right away

@suemcspadden5380

2 ай бұрын

I don't like her.She had to know her daughter was pregnant she is a freak and the husband is so dumb with out any guts to stand up against his wife

@Itcouldallbesosimple45

Ай бұрын

She seems a bit detached and delusional about the entire situation.

@hellogoodmorning3405

22 күн бұрын

@@Itcouldallbesosimple45this is presumably where her daughter learned her behaviour from...

@germainewright7348

15 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@fixairplane3624

6 күн бұрын

She is a narcissist

Keli was so devastated with getting pregnant the first time, she did it 4 more times! Really??

@JPieps147

Ай бұрын

She was devastated about the abortion

@ElaAusDemTal

Ай бұрын

​@@JPieps147not devastated enough to take contraceptives, obviously!

Father: "So theres your murderer" throwing a box of medals towards them. ??????????????????

@deep5351

3 ай бұрын

Ya that was strange……

@jillijane9793

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, she got medals so by all means, that means she didn't do anything 😆

@hollieward50

2 ай бұрын

That was a Wow moment for sure

@kerryquinn6218

Ай бұрын

Yes, I didn't know children who won medals at school couldn't go on to be murderers.

Her parents are in denial because they don't want to own any responsibility for anything associated with their daughter.

@Slim3D1

3 ай бұрын

So sick...

@tinawindham6958

3 ай бұрын

Don’t rock their world, they have blinders on.

As an American, I came into this with no opinion or knowledge of this case and I realize editing can change the whole story, but those parents are strange. He answers a phone call and walks away? He says “Wrap it up” and walks away? This screams parents who let money raise their daughter instead of them.

@Nous520

3 ай бұрын

When he wants to wrap it up- Just prior to that, the mother is crying about Keli being in prison and giving him the evils. That set him off. I do believe the mother knew, I don’t believe she is horrible. I believe she is angry with her husband because he is the father of that child. When they talk about where the baby could be he says ‘I don’t know’ an uncomfortable amount of time.

@margjeweijdt1510

3 ай бұрын

​@@Nous520This was my feeling too. Both parents know more than they are letting on. And there's a lot of anger there.

@Nous520

3 ай бұрын

@@margjeweijdt1510 it’s odd I’ve not seen anyone else comment a like thought. Everyone is focused on the mum being a narcissistic matriarch that has made her daughter into a sociopath. No one has picked up on her anger nor speculated as to why she might be so deeply in denial or pretending to be. The fact that she said “I thought I was on top of things” indicates there was a problem that she needed to keep an eye on and I rather suspect that the problem was her husband.

@emilyemily444

2 ай бұрын

​@Nous520 this! 💯 This is the exact gut feeling I got from that interview. Especially when he made the odd remark of his daughter being a child murderer, whilst flinging the box of medals down. Shame on the mother for not protecting her daughter & shame on the disgusting father. Both parents are equally to blame for how everything turned out imo.

@Valeria-mq3qn

Ай бұрын

@@Nous520I don’t know about all that. And I think that IF that were true, she would have NOTHING to lose by bringing that to light at this point. If anything, it would probably help her. So no, I don’t think that’s the case. It’s scary how quickly people are willing to crucify someone before knowing the facts.

That mother is a bare faced liar. How do you not know this stuff about your child? She seems so emotionally detached when she talks about Keli.

@harpsailorharp6716gg

2 ай бұрын

narcassist

@donnie9455

12 күн бұрын

I see a mother in pain

I was pregnant at 16, had a full term little girl and gave her up for adoption. Even at 16 I knew I didn't want to do that again. She was completely irresponsible and selfish.

@smith899

3 ай бұрын

How wonderful that you gave your child life and adoption!!!!❤❤❤❤❤

@BlazeBuds

3 ай бұрын

Thats amazing you went through that at 16. I'm glad you didn't abort. She definitely was selfish, you don't accidentally get knocked up 6 times in the end, especially when on the pill! The pill may not work all the time, but 6 times? Its obvious she learnt her behavior from her own mother. Disgusting her mother being in denial, as if she didn't know she was pregnant, just wouldn't admit it cause it would give the family or her a bad name

@bd6994

3 ай бұрын

❤️❤️❤️x

@nathansimson9052

3 ай бұрын

@@smith899 agree

@user-mi7gc3xw9r

3 ай бұрын

I do wonder where her parents was not supportive of her, it takes just one pregnancy for parents to help there daughters and go along a clinic to get protection for them. I think the parents should take some responsibility 😊

" She was Never one of those tummy out here jobs " Just let that sink in for a minute.

@user-wickedflower

3 ай бұрын

Why?

@amymckay23

3 ай бұрын

To me, it sounds as though she knew her daughter was pregnant multiple times.

@drofnats1962

3 ай бұрын

@@amymckay23 Exactly.

@GotMySnarkyNanaPantsOn

3 ай бұрын

She also said "Keli carries her pregnancies so well"

@mimiity9585

3 ай бұрын

It’s an odd thing to say from a mother who didn’t notice her daughter was pregnant so many times. Sounds like Mom was disgusted with her behavior, and she disappointed her with her drinking and pregnancies. Might be even more that went on. Mom may be fully aware her daughter is lying and covering for her saves face for her and her husband but it all disgusts her.

It is so infuriating that the mother keeps using the excuse “I didn’t know” like it somehow excuses her

Very cold mother. I also think she knew.

@Nous520

3 ай бұрын

I think she knew but her reaction is not surprising if you consider that her husband is the father of keli’s babies. The way she looks at him when she is crying about her daughter and he gets annoyed and then wants everyone to leave. He is a controlling man with secrets that he cannot afford to have revealed.

@helenaterschegget8791

2 ай бұрын

@@Nous520if that’s the case, one of these children will put their dna some day in the system and she would be linked to… by the way I hadn’t thought about this possibility at all btw. And now that I think about it, that should have been investigated too. It could be it’s not her father but some other guy, in her life, like a coach, or husband from one of her friends, you name it. I thought in the process they did take the dna of those adopted children right? So maybe they did check it? As I recall they said something that they believed maybe one of them had the same father as Andrew, but I remember thinking but that won’t help them if they don’t know who Andrew is. But maybe they did to see if they were all the same father or different fathers

Mother looks like a real piece of work.

@francesboo1649

3 ай бұрын

1000% agree. Her mother and the other coaches - women esp. This girl was in a frigging SWIMSUIT alot of the time! But she was old enough to be on the pill by then without her mother having to accompany her to the G.P.......so why keep putting yourself through this? she clearly has serious psychological issues. Just like her mother.

If you want to sleep around but don’t want children.. why wouldn’t you use protection???????????

@dolinaj1

3 ай бұрын

She was on the pill.

@sarahholland2600

3 ай бұрын

​@@dolinaj1Where did it say that? I missed it if they did.

@erickiyoshiphillips2323

3 ай бұрын

when thry talked to the first bf

@timeittakestoletgo1687

3 ай бұрын

Hormonal contraception doesn’t work for some women. There’s a percentage of women who are basically immune to it

@lspbeautea4791

3 ай бұрын

Clearly the pill wasn’t taken correctly. The. Pill not working twice in a 24 month period?? Na

This girls problem, is her parents, plain and simple. Her mother is the worst, very hard cold and in big denial..

@ellecee453

3 ай бұрын

I think her mother is being dishonest. There is denial and then deliberate falsehood. Her whole demeanor reeks of deliberate falsehood.

@joanodom2104

3 ай бұрын

​@@ellecee453the mother is extremely closed off and defiant. The body language alone shows that she is NOT to be trifled with. With her hovering as team manager, I have no doubt that she instilled that "winning at ALL costs" mindset in Keli. Just look where THAT got them.

@ac6094

3 ай бұрын

And incredibly defensive, how could she not go to her parents at the age of 20 even and say she was pregnant? I wonder if she deliberately got kept getting pregnant almost like for attention, would her parents notice and do something? It's like all the mother cared about was Kelly winning and making the family look good at any cost. However, I do think the DOCS worker nailed it-Kelly is a sociopath-her planning, lies behaviour and actions all are the textbook traits.

@Nous520

3 ай бұрын

That woman is hardened to the fact that her husband fathered her daughters children. This is the denial and the defiance.

@telsclark

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nous520this is what I felt watching them.

"Are we going to hash out every detail?" What an awful mother..... if you want to help your daughter,, why would object to the details?

It's amazing how a family can be this much in denial and are completely delusional. My mother knew I was pregnant when I was one month pregnant and not showing at all.

@Philljag

3 ай бұрын

What if she is innocent? How did no one know if it’s as easy as you think?

@JoyRBradford

3 ай бұрын

@@Philljag I wasn't talking about Kelly. I was talking about her family, especially her mother. I have never seen so much denial of her own daughter's pregnancies.

@JadedBelle

3 ай бұрын

​​@@JoyRBradfordMy mother never knew I was pregnant out of 4 times until I told her. She wasn't in denial or delusional. She was busy with work, yes, but most of all, I was quite private and secretive. There are millions of variations and intricacies when it comes to relationships and social interactions. It's delusional to say that just because a family interacts differently than your experience then they are somehow failures. Some relationships are strong in one area but weak in others and vice versa... that's just a very simplified version of saying each is unique in it's own way. I do agree that these parents are maybe a bit resistant and possibly in denial but I do not agree with your blanket generalization.

@JoyRBradford

3 ай бұрын

@@JadedBelle Nope. Kelly knew her parents were ALL ABOUT appearances and she didn't want to embarrass them. I don't care how dysfunction a family is, when one of your daughters is pregnant especially after 6 or 7 months. Her mother was less concerned about her daughter than keeping up with the Jone's. She even knows the facts about her daughter and she is STILL in denial. It's pathetic!

@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353

3 ай бұрын

Same here. My mom saw my body changing immediately.

The complete lack of interest or care about their own flesh and blood grandchild from her parents is outrageous.

@Valeria-mq3qn

Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m trying not to judge the parents as harshly as other are based on the comments, but that part is definitely sad and strange to me.

The girl that kept getting pregnant was knowledgeable about contraception and the people performing the abortions surely counselled her.. It's her own actions that made this tragedy.. She seems like a person who seems exempt from responsibility.

@bjfontana5760

2 ай бұрын

The boys/men who helped create the pregnancies, are also responsible for contraception if they aren't planning on being a dad at that moment.

How could her parents not know she was pregnant? They strike me as being in denial about their daughter's situation...info about the family dynamics might help explain why.

"I don't necessarily need to meet her." That's one cold mother.

@asher2648

3 ай бұрын

You're right 😮

@fiaonastree4249

3 ай бұрын

How can you not notice Ur daughter was pregnant, plus all the lies

@Philljag

3 ай бұрын

How’s it cold? Maybe this could affect her daughters life

@lambchopz817

3 ай бұрын

*mother*,..shes ALOT of things but DEFINITELY not a mother

@ennds4636

3 ай бұрын

Consider Ruby Franke, who thinks the best thing for her children is to forgive her and rebuild their relationship. That's delusional, and harmful, and those kids need her out of their lives. At least this woman understands that she would probably be disrupting a life built without her, so if her daughter doesn't want to meet her, it makes sense and is ok. That actually makes her a semi decent person. ...I don't happen to believe that Tegan is alive though, and I think keli is delusional, but that one statement isn't the condemnation that people think it is.

There is no feeling at all. No guilt. There is constant lying. She was not taking birth control. She does not ever take ownership for her mistakes. She's a psychopath.

I have questions…coaches and players on the water polo team were talking about her being pregnant. Why did none of the coaches speak to her mother about it?! And Keli disappears from pub, goes to hospital and has a baby, is gone for a couple days., reappears for her 20th birthday, then goes back to the hospital again. Was she living at home at the time? Did her parents not wonder where she disappeared to from the pub? Her friends were calling hospitals, they must have contacted her parents. Somethings not right here…truth not being told.

@robw2486

3 ай бұрын

She was an adult, so technically they cannot breach her confidentiality by telling her Mother

@GrandmaSuzy56

3 ай бұрын

I think, they did and that is why nobody is talking because the mother told them not to!

@julesthecat.

2 ай бұрын

Her parents knew. They’re full of it and trying to preserve their image.

@Wijewels

2 ай бұрын

​@@robw2486I believe they're referring to the friends calling everywhere. The friends would've called the parents to find out if she was there. They would've shared what they knew and why they were concerned.

That mother "Sandy", is a bit out there. Its quite obvious why keli felt pressure to conceal her pregnancies. They "her and her mother" are both very cold.

What total nonsense. Those parents were in denial and believed what they wanted and a kid would only get in the way of the image they preferred. Especially of the mother. How the heck can someone get pregnant so many times? No excuses. You don't repeat the same bad things time after time and call it a mistake.

Tbh Kelli is not a child. She’s an adult by then. I think if someone even asked her if she’s Ok she would have lied. She would have never acknowledged she was pregnant. Regardless, she has the responsibility as an adult.

Her parents are cold and callous! It’s not OK what she’s done and I do believe that that baby is not alive, but I can clearly see why she was filled with so many problems! If she gave that baby to her father, there was no reason for him not to come forward when all this was going on. She deserves to be where she is, but it is heartbreaking what she clearly went through growing up in the home with those statues for parents. No wonder she didn’t confide in them. It is clear that her upbringing caused her to be a pathological liar with narcissistic traits.

I remember watching this on the ABC a couple of years ago, my opinion hasn't changed watching this again. Sorry but, every time I hear the mother talk and her body language, it makes my blood boil. I'm not going to suggest that the wrong person is in jail but, the mother knows more than what she is letting on. On a positive note, Caro Meldrum-Hanna is one of the few shining lights at the ABC and did a great job here.

How can a mother not realize that her daughter is pregnant? This is not normal, it is strange and suspicious.

@VeeAmericanEagle

3 ай бұрын

My mother knew I was pregnant before I even I knew it myself😂 I was 19 and one day my mom was about to head to the store and I asked her to buy some oranges for me bc I’ve been craving for it. She asked, “are you pregnant?” I was like, “huh? Idk?” I went to take a test and yup! She was right. lol

@emilyemily444

2 ай бұрын

Her mother knew, she just chose to ignore & bury her head in the sand. Where do you think the daughter learnt her behaviour from?

Words that come in my mind: Ignorant, in denial, emotionless, careless, cold. That goes with the parents and Keli

I am getting a very strange / odd feeling about this so called Mom. Cold hearted, smug, sarcastic, crude, rude, unable to shed a song me tear/

@catalinacurio

2 ай бұрын

She’s threatening in her mannerisms. Possibly a sociopath.

This is not the Victorian age. There was extremely efficient and readily available contraception in the 90's....,

@nlwilson4892

3 ай бұрын

The pill tends to cause nausea so most women took it at bedtime. So if she was drinking a lot she may have forgot to take it until the next morning, or took it and vomited afterwards. If it was taken the next morning (or late morning if she slept in) it might not work. If she vomited after taking it then it wouldn't have worked.

@timeittakestoletgo1687

3 ай бұрын

Contraception doesn’t work for everybody. Some women are literally immune to hormonal birth control.

@demisavage77

3 ай бұрын

Some of us became suicidal on it. It’s not simple. And it’s not something that should be worn on a woman’s shoulders. Some of us do not get to say no either.

@archerandthemouse

3 ай бұрын

How many people do you know who have unplanned children who used birth control, I know many, including myself.

@demisavage77

3 ай бұрын

@@archerandthemouse 🎯

I could not have ever played water polo with a pregnant woman. I would have refused to go along with the silence and would have insisted to know wether or not she was infact carrying a child. A distended abdomen in a teammate would be concerning no matter the cause and I can imagine no one adressed it.

@stfuplsok

3 ай бұрын

*whether *addressed

Lets not forget that she wasn't a child when she had Teagan and the last baby she gave up. And whose to say that theres not other pregnancies that she dealt with on her own?

It's interesting to me that the Brits and Aussies and others say "fell pregnant". Like you just fall down and get up and you're all of a sudden pregnant

@serenakaur1131

3 ай бұрын

Exactly...shouldn't it be 'became pregnant'or with child or expecting?lol

@gisellemagraibhaigh8342

2 ай бұрын

Older literature describes unmarried mothers as "fallen women" so it fits well. Fallen from society, fallen from high to low (or lower) status, fallen into sin etc etc

@chrissylibertyk9

2 ай бұрын

@@gisellemagraibhaigh8342 but they still say it for married women

@gisellemagraibhaigh8342

2 ай бұрын

@@chrissylibertyk9 yes we do now, it's become a common saying for all classes, but it used to be "proper" to say that married women "became" pregnant or have "gotten" pregnant or "conceived" etc etc. Hardly anybody worries about speaking "properly" anymore, saying "fell" is just easier 🤷

@kerryquinn6218

Ай бұрын

I've never heard anyone say fell pregnant here in Northern Ireland and I've never heard it from family and friends in mainland Britain either. Maybe it's more of a class phrase than location.

Playing as stated aggressive and viscious water polo whilst 9 months pregant and ready to deliver says alot about how selfish and detached she was from the baby.

Sandra,Keli's mum, knew about the pregnancies

The mom's reaction at around 22 minutes is just baffling. She's so cold and completely over the whole thing.

@demisavage77

3 ай бұрын

Sinister comes to mind. I relive my children’s childhoods every day wondering what I could do better for their benefit. That woman is COLD.

@Nous520

3 ай бұрын

Yeah but look at the evils she gives her husband. He’s the reason she’s that way. I think she knew her husband fathered and then arranged for the baby to go away. And she blames him for Keli being in prison but equally wouldn’t want to risk exposing the sordid details to get her out.

@nevadamav648

3 ай бұрын

Mom is evil

@Neckoya

2 ай бұрын

Well im sure its an awful thing to have to live with and the stress must be overwhelming. Its easy to judge someone based on a few minutes of video while being questioned about something so traumatic. Id like to see how you copped with something like this. I bet youve never had to go through anything difficult in your life

Keli Lane was eligible for parole on 12 May 2023. On 14 February 2024 Lane was sent back behind bars to a maximum security prison after reportedly breaking the conditions of her day release which could potentially impact her chance of getting parole over allegations of inappropriate behaviour at an external worksite. Her case will be the first test of the new “no body, no parole legislation” amended and introduced in October 2022.

@mimiity9585

3 ай бұрын

Keli is permiscouse. I’m sure her parents didn’t like that! Probably drank during pregnancy too! I’d be disappointed with my daughters behavior as well. .

@bjfontana5760

2 ай бұрын

Hmmmm....... guess the men who enjoyed her company are also promiscuous ...... not an accusation just for women! @@mimiity9585

@yvonnedeboer7535

2 ай бұрын

​@@mimiity9585She did drink during the pregnancies 😮

@shethingsd

2 ай бұрын

​@@mimiity9585 showed her doing so in this documentary

We have a similar case in the USA. Baby Gabriel went missing in 2009 in AZ after his "mother" supposedly gave him away. He's never been found and his "mother" was only convicted of unlawful imprisonment, custodial interference, and conspiracy to commit custodial interference. She got out of prison and recently had another baby. Gabriel's father is still looking for his son.

@cathybassett6432

3 ай бұрын

How sad.

@samanthaschwartz2316

3 ай бұрын

It is also a crazy case, but where American courts failed the child, Australian courts prevailed at least.

Like come on.... in this day and age of technology they can't even confirm the existence of the father and people still believe her? And he's such a great guy he takes responsibility for his baby but won't come forward to confirm his existence to get an innocent person out of prison? That would make him evil. It doesn't add up. Either he's great or he's awful... pick a lane.

Mother said Kelly was strong for not saying anything and going through it alone. No she was broken.😞

@yvonnedeboer7535

2 ай бұрын

Both maybe?

@EggeTrefinneJ

2 ай бұрын

@@yvonnedeboer7535 I get that.. I’ve been through trauma that has broken me in some ways and made me stronger in other ways. ❤️

"All of this is news to me." Well maybe it's time to get curious. Duh.

Caro’s investigative journalism is some of the best we have in Australia

I've seen a similar case to this, when a father of biological children didn't realise his wife had given birth to 3 girls and given them away. He only thought he had 2 sons. The mother was stressed and in denial about the children and had mental health issues. He couldn't see she was pregnant with her sons, she just didnt show, so it was easy for her to have babies by herself. 3 adult females turning up on his doorstep was a surprise.

@carmeldelaney1086

Ай бұрын

A very careless woman.I don't know if She Is responsible for the baby's death. Imagine playing water polo and drinking in the final stages of your pregnancy.Her parents are Two dopes.

That Dobrovonik guy has a creep factor of about 12 on a 0-10 scale. Also, typically, women "show" very differently and different with each pregnancy, but at 4 months, it's very unlikely that anyone would be obviously showing, even in a bathing suit, you really just look a little chubby around the hips 😂

@samanthaschwartz2316

3 ай бұрын

Um, as a fit athlete, she was very much for sure showing at least enough for her mom to have been able to tell. Not to memtion she had MULTIPLE term pregnamcies that ended in adoption- that's not a wishy-washy was there a sign of showing or not. That's blatant denial.

@jannasmith3275

3 ай бұрын

And if that wasn't her first pregnancy, you usually show quicker with each pregnancy....not all the time but she wasn't pregnant and weighing 400lbs, she was a thin, fit athlete. She most definitely would be showing unless she was carrying more towards her back.

@LH-ot5rk

3 ай бұрын

That guy is scary creepy.

@anneloving8405

3 ай бұрын

She was very tall she wasn't what I call thin,she was a big strapping girl,water polo is a rough sport,I knew a family of water polo players,they were 6ft and size 18 of pure muscle and that was just the girls.

@shayfisk-steinbronn1053

3 ай бұрын

No not really, i went to high school with someone who hadn’t a clue neither did anyone else not until the day she went into labor at school she didn’t show, she wore same clothes, cheered the whole lot so for those who have such an opinion its called gossip so anne the team manager first its none of her business either way she isnt a dr nor an expert so her speaking her views n her opinions is called idle gossip!!! Mind ur business already… when people get pregnant its their choice to speak to whoever she wants to tell! And the interviewer hows that egg on ur face feel i think u lied to her n her parents saying u we’re gonna help her however i dont think that was her plan at all i think she thought everyone was gonna dog kelli out n make her look bad but it appears only anne the team manager and gossip lets only hope she was never faced with people slamming her children pathetic!!! Also i don’t know Kelli nor anyone of these people before thats said i just call it like i see it… i truly hope the truth does come out n i hope it’s clearing her name!!! I can’t believe women r on here judging any woman about an abortion until ur God u might wanna remember one of the Ten Commandments “Tho shall no judge” just sayin

The mother seems very smug with her, "Well, I didn't know" answer. They definitely played a part in why she behaves this way. I fell pregnant at 16. I chose to keep the baby, whether or not the father supported the decision. I miscarried and woke up during the D&C. It was awful and traumatic. Still, that didn't lead me to pull that same move again and again.

Wow so many people in denial! Clearly she did it. I wouldn't care if I was related to someone, I could never forgive what she did. Disgusting! At least admit what you did! Clearly happy to abort or get rid of kids, so why is this girl any different?

Nothing but excuses from herself, her parents and her water polo teammates its really disgusting.

I was 9 months pregnant and my mom said, “are you sure you’re pregnant?” I only gained 15 lb and just didn’t show much.

@pullmyniblets

3 ай бұрын

So nothing like Keli was then

@yvonnedeboer7535

2 ай бұрын

My mother was almost not showing untill giving birth to me. People asked her why she wasn't working!! But she was about to deliver.

They failed as parents and now have to walk the line of defending themselves and facing their failure. I feel for them. They made mistakes like most parents do but their child and subsequent grandchildren paid a huge price.

@mimiity9585

3 ай бұрын

This is more than one normal mistake. It’s complete denial of the truth. It would be different if they owned up to at least knowing she was pregnant! That’s downright nuts.

@demisavage77

3 ай бұрын

They knew. They wouldn’t have helped her out bc they won’t face it now

Her pals rang around the hospital and were told she had had a baby then the next day, Keli met up for a meal. (after getting a day pass from hospital), nobody confronted her then about having a baby??

@yvonnedeboer7535

2 ай бұрын

Confronted? Or congratiulations 🎉🎉🎉 Very strange!!

The parents are stubborn and disconnected. ‘I dno’ in reply to where could their grandchild be. Don’t they even want to see their grandchild?

@Philljag

3 ай бұрын

It’s been years now don’t you think they’re all worn out?

@JadedBelle

3 ай бұрын

It's because they're disconnected that they "dunno". You answered your own question.

@JoyRBradford

3 ай бұрын

Ya, especially her mother. She lives in a constant state of denial.

@motomitch9027

3 ай бұрын

I feel the need to attack the parents, especially mum, for being so disconnected, but then, they have probably been through the wringer with the press, people and friends. Also, parents of 19 year olds don't know ANYTHING about what goes on with their kids.

@rcristy

3 ай бұрын

Good point by the OP.

The parents are all about image. I can see why she wouldn't confide in them, especially mommy. She knew they would disown her.

I think the mother hates/hated her

@Peter-wd2ho

3 ай бұрын

Spot on.

@shefliesbyherownwings

3 ай бұрын

Jealous and resentful

That is one mom in denial

“Keli was Manley….” I took that a different way and thought it was such an odd thing to say lol Then I realized it was the name of the town.

@bjfontana5760

2 ай бұрын

ikr?! Me too! :)

@spod414

2 ай бұрын

Same here 😂

Her mother definitely knew but just didn’t want to get involved. Her mother is just a cold and miserable person.

It's not up to the people in her life to ask her if she's okay. It's up to her at her age at that time to be responsible. She was 21 and not an invalid, nor was she unaccustomed to how babies were created. This is all on her. No one else.

@bjfontana5760

2 ай бұрын

It is also on the man/men that helped create these babies; wrap it up, boys!

@Stacey-go5jx

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I’m SO confused why this series was even made… She’s not a victim. She got pregnant a bunch of times. As an adult too. So?

Keli keeps saying the reason she keeps getting pregnant. Even though it was traumatic having abortions & going through adoption. Is because of alcohol & self denial. Thing is she keeps saying "me" her trauma, what kept hurting her. You never hear her say anything empathetic towards how negatively it affected the babies. Seems like she is very selfish & narcissistic. That alone makes her look very guilty!

I totally understand this woman's story. I have lived the isolation and lack of support and need for compartmentalization skills. I still struggle with this today. Probably will til I die.

@Foxsuper1

3 ай бұрын

can you explain more please 🙏 I'm trying to research this

@demisavage77

3 ай бұрын

Right? People should consider themselves lucky that they do not.

@Nous520

3 ай бұрын

My theory is that her father is the father and arranged for the baby to go away. This to me explains the compartmentalising and unwillingness to truthful. To bear the responsibility of shielding your family from the shame is enormous and the reasons for shielding each person is different. Your fathers shame is different to your mothers and theirs is different to yours, it’s so a fractured and fragile and her silence is the glue that is holding their family image together . You’d HAVE to compartmentalise in order to keep yourself together.

@CassandraJay

3 ай бұрын

If you’re able to go to planned parenthood for multiple abortions, you’re more than capable to get yourself on birth control.

@yvonnedeboer7535

2 ай бұрын

​@@Nous520Possible!

I met Keli only once in Manly LSC instantly felt something that made me think i didn't want to acknowledge her again and noticed she was pregnant. surprise's me nobody picked up that pregnancy took me 2 seconds

What Mother doesn’t know their daughter - who lives at home - is 5 months pregnant. And, sees her regularly in her bathing suit. The parents denial of reality is disturbing.

Possible harm to her future babies was not a problem for her. Playing water polo while 9 months and drinking. Not hard to see that this woman could hurt a new born.

Narcissists feel alone even when they are surrounded by friends because it is ALL about ‘keeping up appearances’

" are we hashing over every little detail " she had an abortion, and was that devastated, she did it again.

Kelli’s mother mother.. I can’t put my finger on it but she’s suspicious

I have questions about the personality of that social worker with all the tattoos seen at the end…why present yourself in a singlet when there is no need AND that awful display of hatred against the accused woman before he has even met her….he appears to me to be a misogynist…look at the hate on his face…there are gentler ways of finding the truth as a social worker and his attitude was very aggressive….i have concerns about him and I have 30 years successful experience in probation and child care social work….and I have seen this behaviour before….it is not conducive to a good assessment….or getting to the truth.

@sharai73

2 ай бұрын

I was looking for this kind of comment he was so creepy why was so happy no one wins here mate it’s an awful situation I felt so uncomfortable with his glee The older picture of him he’s in short sleeves shirt no tattoos showing he looked very different to guy they interviewed I wonder what’s been happening in his life

So sad for a young girl unable to confide in her mother. Sad too she didnt have a close best friend who could have helped her with her insecure life and decisions. She seemed to have invented a fantasy world to prevent herself from facing reality.

@iamwaterproof

3 ай бұрын

"So sad"? What if the child was 10 years old? What if she killed a 20 year old? She deliberately killed someone and you say so sad.

A mother not knowing about her daughter's several pregnancies is absolutely incredible. There are some very serious issues here... denial, indifference, indignation, you name it

She’s giving me Casey Anthony VIBES…😨

@hsk2909

3 ай бұрын

Very much so. The mum gives off Cindy vibes too.

When does the next part come out? Great production, I am glued!

When are the other 2 parts going to be uploaded?

@Lifewithpersians

3 ай бұрын

It’s up. Did you see part 2

@theflowerwhosavedtheuniver5658

3 ай бұрын

​@Lifewithpersians just got it, thank you. Going to watch it now.

22:35 Her moms saying she didnt think back and reflect on the previous years even after finding out of her daughters multiple pregnancies is so strange. More so being she is now in prison for killing one of those babies! Something isnt right with her.

She had good reasons to keep to herself! What a strange mother!

Fascinating. I cant wait to see the other ones! Thank you!

The mother is EXTREMELY UNLIKABLE!!!

This is such a well made series and I'm going to recommend it to my friends. Thanks for sharing!

This story is just like an episode of Home and away..

The first thing the Mother wants you to oniw is she taught Kelli to respect others.she pointedly infers it's ranked at highest priority. She didn't complete the sentence with, she taught Kelly to respect herself. This is indicative of a narcissist who shaped their people pleasing child (trophies) to respect them and be submissive. They raised her to put their image first. The father mentioned her swimming made them look good. Poor Kelli.

CAN NOT WAIT FOR PART 2

the mothers body language shows deceptive behaviour-very dominating woman but Keli was an adult and ultimately is responsible.

Stop with the self pity. I guarantee if anyone asked if she was ok, she'd have said yes. She didn't have the experience of being allowed to ask for help.

20 week abortion is an abomination. It's absolutely horrifying. The baby feels pain.

@helenaterschegget8791

2 ай бұрын

She did that twice and the last one she flew out to another city as she was scared they would,catch on, and she was 25 weeks pregnant. And it was denied. And why she had to go back to her home town, to put it up for adoption and she lied on that application, have you adopted out before .. no. And this is what caused her down fall. It’s when they found out a baby was missing. I agree these late term abortion are usually only done because the moms life or the baby’s life is in danger. Not because you waited too long.

She can never admit the truth. She probably still wants her parents’ approval and admitting the truth would mean she’s flawed . What a horrific situation.

This is so well done! ❤

The fact that she wore white to her friends wedding tells me i need to know about her

I hope you have the next part to this? Theres more I know I remeber the 2 journalists from a FB follow.

@Elee90Jess

3 ай бұрын

It says part 1 of 3

Father: "there's your murderer" Me: yeah, there's our murderer, collecting unwanted pregnancies like she collected trophies she didn't even care for. Edit: dear god it's a lot going on here

Keli Lane is defs giving Casey Anthony vibes...

Something not quite right with the parents....in my opinion🤷‍♂️the mother is a cold fish,, looks like they thought more of their reputation than helping their daughter out. Very weird 😕

Sandy was "shattered a very long time ago".. Her mother is a narcissist.

“I felt like I was being made accountable”. You are accountable!

You can blame the parents for the way Kelly's personality is, I really find both parents ignorant people, I don't blame Kelly being a liar,it comes from the Parents personality 😡

Her mom would have known she was pregnant and decided not to do anything about it.