When I first fell into BookTube wit the Cait Corrain situation, I never thought drama would be a monthly/weekly thing. Always something new and chaotic proving that fact is always stranger than fiction.

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

💯 stronger than fiction

@platedlizard

Ай бұрын

Book drama has been a fairly regular thing for decades, I actually can't remember year after the internet got big that there hasn't been as least one scandal every two months or more. Often around race or gender, but plagiarism is another biggie. And lately AI, one sci-fi magazine nearly had to close submissions completely because they were overwhelmed with ChatGP submissions. Given that this publisher (Clark's World) had a particularly easy way to submit that was designed to make it easier for authors from developing nations to submit their work this was a huge problem last year in science fiction publishing. Clark has managed to overcome it, but other magazines are struggling with AI. That's just one example.

I have seen this stuff in the Read with Cindy video and this is wild. I am a latino (Brazilian) and I am white af, so this is like... If they were going to lie about being latine, why didn't they say they were a white latine? They couldn't even lie well. I am sure they didn't lie about being a white latine, because a lot of gringos simply don't understand the concept that Latines aren't a race, we are a group of nationalities that were colonized by Spain and Portugal.

@sleepysadpoet

Ай бұрын

Literally. I'm only a quarter, my grandfather is fully Latino with family in Mexico. I'm still white. My dad is also white Latino

@LynnHermione

Ай бұрын

Lxs latinoamericanos no somos blancxs. Blanco es un estatus de provilegio y lxs latinxs por ser del tercer mundo no lo tenemos.

@lordarthur2165

Ай бұрын

@@LynnHermione posso escrever em português? Acho que assim fica mais fácil de te responder. Eu vou admitir que a gente é muito explorado, isso é verdade, principalmente pelas nações do Norte global. Mas eu não acho justo apagar o meu privilégio como uma pessoa branca quando existe racismo sistêmico enraizado aqui, eu nunca vou saber o que é passar por esse tipo de opressão. Tem como a gente ser opressor e oprimido ao mesmo tempo.

Wow, someone really looked at Cait Corrain and thought, that's an inspiration.

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Or maybe Cait took inspiration from them from 2020 😭

@rgaijin

Ай бұрын

Oh their drama is older than cait's drama and has been going on for the span of yeaaars

As a queer latine who gets scraps when it comes to rep dealing with gender, religion and the diaspora I really connected with Freydis work. To say I was blindsided was an understatement. And by a white person? 🤡 like I have 4 of their books… Id barely been on social media this past year and bam this is what I’m confronted with the second I finally check back in LMAO

@ettaetta439

Ай бұрын

Oh my god, I am so sorry for you 😭 what are you going to do with the books?

I wonder when Booktok actually gets the chance to read with all the drama they’re constantly having

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Looool valid question 🤔

@princessshenaniganspresent5538

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂 true

Bro seeing these Discord screenshots of people like Freydis Moon and Cait Corrain just cold bloodedly lying through their teeth about their entire identity, personality, and past for multiple whole ass conversations gives me so much anxiety. And it's the EXACT same tone and speech every time, with the same "omg wtf thats insane who would do something like that and screw me over so badly omg please don't hate me???" Bone chilling. I commend people for confronting both of these authors despite the fact that it must have felt so slimy to carry on a convo with someone being so manipulative and gaslighty. And also scary, given the freaky racism. Really sorry to everyone who was a fan of their books and/or looked up to them, you did not deserve this.

Wow, this is just insane. Even for Book Community.

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

I think it's becoming normal, which is soooo bad 😭

Freydis is a pretty big author in the indie community, I've followed and looked up to them for years. This has been extremely disappointing.

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

I'm only just getting into my indie bag, so I really didn't ever hear of them

I remember walking into a chapters store in Winnipeg and I was thinking on picking up first book of the trilogy by Moon. But the sales person was like no, that author does not deserve my cash. LOL. This was like in back in April 10.

Why do people do this. If it was me id be so embarrassed id drop off the face of the earth

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Honestly the actual audacity always shocks me

Wait.... *Sips tea. I'm ready for the book gossip.

@B-zk9bt

2 ай бұрын

Same, I enjoy some drama in the book community.

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

It is HOT

This is WILD!!! I’m no longer on Twitter, but I remember blocking Taylor Brooklyn/Barton, and maybe even Brooklyn Ray. I don’t think I followed Jupiter Wyse, but the avatar is so familiar that they were probably on my tl a lot. But I’m pretty sure I followed Freydis, or they were at least ALL OVER my tl. Like, I saw the avatar and immediately knew who it was. This is the craziest shit ever!!

the fact that the furniture gave them away, AND THEN THEY KEPT POSTING INSIDE THEIR UNCHANGED HOME???? absolutely bonker oh my lord

i've got friends in similar circles to freydis questioning whether they were ever even trans/nb. i just hate how this kind of nonsense poisons the well for everyone else.

omg it's our very own version of the hivliving scandal😭

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

The what??? Which one is that?

@kl3321

Ай бұрын

​@@shelleys.corneryou might have found it already but a Hamilton fan ran a blog where they pretended to be TWO different HIV-positive people of color (they were neither of those things).

this whole situation is so unhinged 😭 i hope they get psychological help fr

Freydis Moon literally looked at Cait Corrain and was like: "Hold my beer"

@TheRonnieaj

Ай бұрын

Nah, she looked at Cait and snorted. “Rookie.”

@ADSuri

Ай бұрын

@@TheRonnieaj 😂

Wow!! Whats crazy is that initially Brooklyn Ray was masquerading as an afro latinx person i cant find it on GR but i know in late 2022 or 2023 when i first heard of their series it was because i was looking to read and support more latinx books. As a latina i feel like i was lacking in reading my own cultures stories so i went out to find authors that were writing fantasy and romance (there are great authors that are staples to all hispanics like Isabel Allende and Julia Alvarez but i wanted to find new emerging authors too) and darkling was recommended as diverse and brujo (witch). during this time i also read freydis moon for the same reason queer latinx rep in exodus 20:3 i would never critique someones experience because that is unique to each individual but looking back there were several things that i thought of as a yikes but let it go due to attributing it to the person maybe not being too in-touch with that part of their identity or culture (basically some of us get critiqued for being too american or not *insert country* enough) now i see why. This whole thing only really hurts us in the end. There are countries where we are not safe to come out or are in situations where we cant due to family. This debacle will only make people distrust the next latinx author that cant use their real names due to safety or whatever reason they deem important enough to not have to or want to use their real name.

@paperbagboi3185

Ай бұрын

There are a lot of great authors and books: Pedro paramo by Juan Rulfo, cien años de soledad by Gabriel Garcia Marquez , Aura by Carlos fuentes, house of spirits by Isabel Allende are some that come to mind off top of my head

The tea is so scalding I burned my mouth oml. Also, unrelated to this particular video, I absolutely love listening to you. Your passion is infectious, and your voice is beautiful

I’ve watched so many people’s coverage of this because it’s just so convoluted and juicy! You’re right, not that you want people to lie better, it’s good they got caught, but how do you not learn from your mistakes when you were caught the last time through the similarities between your accounts?

Girl you shelf looks amazing! Especially the sections by color! Gorgeous

I heard about her from Read with Cindy, but I like seeing/listening to you too 😆 the situation is too crazy it's beyond annoying.

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Aw thank you! And this situation is definitely irksome

just a heads up if you havent noticed yet, there are a lot of rendering issues in this video!

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Omds I didn't notice 😭 KZread really is an enemy of small creators 😭

Oh! I just found your channel and I’m enjoying it so much!!

While I can understand having a pen name that doesn't correspond to your real ethnicity (which, I understand, is controversial), it's the deliberate lying that crosses the line, at least for me. I've noticed more French and Spanish-sounding pen names for romance books, but to my knowledge, the real writers don't lie about their experiences as a race or culture they're not. Former Cracked writer and author of "John Dies at the End" David Wong is not Asian (he's White, that is a pen name), but he's also never lied about having experiences as an Asian man or taken opportunities away from actual Asian people. All she had to do was not lie and say, "It's a pen name that may or may not reflect what I am as a person." It's not hard!

Why do people think yellowface is a step by step guide

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Looool I think it's more that RF Kuang saw a pattern in the background that we didn't as readers and she used Yellowface to enlighten us

Side note! I really love your bookshelf and you yourself are very insightful! ❤

IK this sounds shady asf but book tea is JUICY ASF, and YES, I WAS WAITING FOR YOUR VIDEO ON THIS!😭

Why why WHY would you continue to double down on all these lies when you've been caught?! It really blows my mind that a person could do this as easily as they breathe without a thought for anyone, not even the people willing to stick their necks out to defend them.

bro what??? who even thinks to do something like this??

This drama is wild! I bought one of Freydis’s books last year because I was specifically looking for a queer Latinx author to support and it was highly recommended, and I really liked it! To find out that the author was doing brown face, and literally taking money away from actual Latinx people by participating in Latinx only pitch events makes me sick to my stomach.

To be honest what annoyed me the most in this discussion is how many videos used RACE when talking about Latinx like it’s a race 😭 Race is made up but we can’t play with it like that lmao

@jasminv8653

5 күн бұрын

yeah honestly it's a very usamerican thing to be like 'hIsPaNiC is a Race' but somehow it's been renamed in a woke way... But in the same breath, in the US latin people DO face prejudices based on ethnic background

What is her birthdate information b/c I'm so about to pull a natal chart interpretation on her.

This is sad

This shit is kind of insane.

Ugh, white authors exposing themselves again 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ Side note you're so pretty!

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

They really are smh And thank you so much ❤️

Taylor uses he/they pronouns 😬

@shelleys.corner

Ай бұрын

Oh, I thought it was she/they. That was my mistake 😅

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