I've had mental health issues for decades. Never in all those years did my mental health issues make me concoct elaborate racist plots to hurt other people and deny responsibility for it afterwards.

@Lucifersfursona

4 ай бұрын

Lowkey my mental health issues helped me radicalize to being anti racist 💀

@RalucaAriadna

Ай бұрын

​@@Lucifersfursona Yep. Can't abide injustice. Especially if it's also systemic

This is just infinitely frustrating because she herself actually acknowledged what she'd done was racist. In that fake chat with "Lilly", there's her saying "i review bombed BIPOC authors so you're gonna be thought as racist". SO SHE KNOWS.

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

THIS PART! She really thought we forgot

@ChocolatexCherries3

4 ай бұрын

well to be fair, she only made those screenshots after she was caught doing this shit so did she know before she was caught that she would be viewed as racist? who knows but it reads more like a defense of her actions as not actually being racist because of the way it was worded.

It drives me nuts when other autistic people use "I can't understand social cues" as a way to justify being an absolute ass. Like first of all, even when you do genuinely miss a social cue in real life, you should still apologize if that leads you to hurt someone. Secondly, "don't be racist" is the most UNsubtle social rule I could possibly think of. If anything, if you really wanted to go off of stereotypes, you'd expect someone who takes rules very literally to be BETTER at following something as simple as "review bombing specifically authors of color is racist" - something that Cait themself is clearly aware of if we look at her imaginary friends' "confession"

@ronjaj.addams-ramstedt1023

4 ай бұрын

Hear hear! From an AutDHD in Finland

7:50 “she’s showing signs of narcissistic tendencies” is a way to acknowledge the parallels without diagnosing someone.

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

This is the phrase I was looking for!!

@nyanchat2657

4 ай бұрын

worth noting that you can be a narcissist and/or have narcissistic tendencies without having the personality disorder

I have autism (like Cait does) and her being on the spectrum isn't an excuse for her clearly racist behavior. Not only is using her neurodivergence as an excuse infantilizing and treating autistic people like we aren't able to tell right from wrong and be held accountable for our bigotry but it also harms autistic people of color who have to deal both with ableism and racism, and who are already erased and mistreated in the wider autistic community. Also, Cait claiming that they went off the Goodreads list of upcoming debuts for reviewbombing is incredibly funny when you consider that one of the books targeted, Drag Me Up by R.M. Virtues, was 1) self-published by an indie author 2) released in 2021. She knew what she was doing.

Yeah, she just went away for two months to write her "The dog ate my homework"-story, and she really thought she would get away with it...

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

That's a great way to describe this 😭

I am shocked that this interviewer didnt call her out on it during the interview when she thripled down on her shit. If she has mental issues she should take care of it rather than bring harm towards people of color who also have their own issues and this cyberbullying and harassment from her could make their situation worse. This woman lacks empathy but wants our sympathy not knowing she should earn it by making herself better but she chooses to be two faced and terrible.

@haggisa

4 ай бұрын

All of this!

I'm someone who has said and done stupid things because I was in a very poor mindset, but these were spur-of-the-moment things, which I then regretted deeply. What she did was meticulously planned. It's not the same thing. Lukewarm take: mental illness WILL make you do bad things sometimes. The problem is when you keep acting on said things, even knowing you could prevent it. That's when you can no longer excuse anything, because it's you doing that and not severe emotional distress. It's appalling that she'd use this as a shield not only because of her actions, but because there's thousands of people out there who genuinely need help, yet keep getting ignored because 'they're just looking for attention' or 'are just making excuses'. Her behavior directly contributes to more people in need getting ignored. As is, she's not sorry for what she did and she refuses to learn anything. There's no sympathy to be had for someone like that. Her actions harm others even to this day, and she doesn't even care.

Even your opener about this being published in Black History Month was chef's kiss, like I didn't even piece that part together because I'm used to the book and publishing world's disregard and disrespect to Black people. But absolutely, there's something to be said about choosing to give her a platform, now of all times, when the entire piece is white whining and denial.

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

I just knew there'd be loads of crap happening this month so as things pile up everywhere, I can't help but making the connection if there is one 🤣

As a neurodivergent person with a lot of trauma around mental health problems (including being institutionalized), who has experienced complete breakdowns, and who has hurt people as a result of these things, this interview INFURIATED me. Like you said it is SO manipulative. And she BARELY even acknowledges the thing we’re trying to talk about here because she’s SO busy making sure everyone knows she is struggling so hard and really the victim if you think about it. This is all about HERSELF. The things she says do not add up, she is not sorry, on the rare occasion she even bothers to say the word it’s so incredibly hollow, she is taking accountability for nothing because she is STILL blaming everything but her own choices and actions. I’m glad everyone sees all the way through her because this is disgusting.

@Frogface91

4 ай бұрын

Would you be comfortable describing how you hurt people during your blackouts so we can better understand how her claims are false? No pressure as it's of course personal and possibly painful to discuss.

@Frogface91

4 ай бұрын

​@wormie1312 Thank you so much for explaining. I was guessing it must be something along those lines, but I didn't want to incorrectly assume.

@chellyfishing

4 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@Frogface91 what @wormie1312 is it exactly. It’s messier and usually involves lashing out at people who don’t deserve it. I also have been very cruel to myself, including behaviors that were harmful to me, and whether I mean it to or not that also hurts the people who care about me. Again, like they said, Cait was so methodical and deliberate in what she did, and it went on for such an extended period of time, that it does not in any way resemble the way people act as a result of a mental health crisis.

@chellyfishing

4 ай бұрын

@wormie1312 thank you for sharing, this is it exactly and you took the words right out of my mouth! Solidarity, and I hope you’re doing well.

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for sharing your experience and giving even more clarity ❤️

there is nothing i love more than seeing the book community com together and not take a racists complete bullshit. She shouldve disappeared and kept her mouth shut honestly.

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

I love this community for exactly that 🥰

She's doing what I fully expected. It's the reporter who I'm really disappointed in. Failing to challenge her assertions is terrible journalistic practice. He basically just acted as a PR outlet for her.

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

Some bits of the reporter's language shows they didn't believe what Cait was saying, but I still believe they should have never given Cait the platform at all to begin with

Its crazy she couldn't just admit, what she thought wasn't racist might be something deeper than she realized and shes analyzing that now... like, bare minimum could respect that.

I call bovine excrement on "neurodivergense made me accidentally racist." I am multiply neurodivergent*, with heaps of childhood and youth trauma behind me, and none of that is an excuse to shrink from a) therapy / self-awareness or b) whittling away at the biases and casually *ist language that I grew up with as a white boomer. In moments of clarity we must take stock and if we have lashed out during an episode of triggered rage, dissociation, or similar, apologies and making amends is a must. No excuses, no woe-is-me BS. That interviewer really dropped the ball. Embarrassing. * autistic & dyslexic ADHDer with complex PTSD

She’s not actually saying that what she did was bad and apologizing here. The whole point here is to prove that she was never a bad person. Like it’s not about you right now, it’s about your actions and who they affected. It’s so frustrating!

As Xiran Jay Zhao said in their tiktok on this (paraphrased), racism isn't a thing you can be or not be, it's not a box you check. It's actions. It's mindset. What Cait Corrain did is a racist action. This article is a racist article. To not be a racist, you have to examine what your actions are, what your mindset leads you to do and say, take a good hard look at your internal biases and actively work to fix them and it's *hard*. It's hard work. It's hard work that goes on for every single day of a person's life and doesn't stop. You can't be "not racist" by going into an interview and saying "Well I'm not racist". You have to make up for past racist actions by apologizing for them, properly, taking accountability for them, and working to correct them, and working on yourself to not do them, or similar racist actions, again.

The background of your video is incredible! I love how you arranged your books. It really tickles my brain. I also really appreciate your coverage of this topic. I am definitely subscribing.

I'm tired of people using mental health as excuse for poor behavior or straight up terrible things.

It was the same reporter who interviewed those Cait attacked?????? Girl... Why. That really is wild, I hadn't realised that yet.

@haggisa

4 ай бұрын

I wouldn’t have minded her being interviewed. But for the journalist to not challenge any of her batshit comments is really disappointing.

@eatingmygrandmasbed

4 ай бұрын

@@haggisa at least it allowed Cait to REALLY really dig a hole for herself

She had 8 different accounts, had several more, she did it due to stress and pressure, because she felt threatened by them....she thought the debeut authors would do better than her. She reported them, blacklisted them to the publisher, destroyed books on purpose to help her get further....then afterwards, she blames it all on her meds mix up, and yet she been on the stuff for 2 years....oh....and apparently Star Wars was to blame too somehow.

4:49 Ive NEVER been racist bc of my autism💀 that’s the most wild excuse to use, like that has no correlation

I feel like the only consequences other than social, out of all this will be her book sales dropping hard because I don’t think she really will get any consequences other than that unless her publisher drops her too.☹️

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

Oh, she got dropped by everyone - her publisher, her agent, her illumicrate deal was terminated. It was one of the only times we saw real consequences. Which is why I say I believe she's only going on this apology/excuse tour to try and recover everything

The second she said "they were on the wrong list at the wrong time" I wanted to know what list. Because there isn't one. There is no list that had those exact people aside from the ones she made on her sock puppets. So I want to ask for the details she doesn't have in her convenient alternative version of events.

@sleepysadpoet

Ай бұрын

She claimed it was bc they were on debut lists or something

Wow. Didn’t know having adhd and substance abuse issues makes people act racist. Interesting. *pretends to write this down*

First of all… your hair looks amazing and you look so vibrant and pretty! Secondly… oh boy 🤦🏼‍♀️

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

Thank you so much ❤️ and yeaaaa

"She's back, and...goodness me." This is such a serious topic but that really made me laugh. Thanks for your continued 'coverage' (is that the right word?) of this ongoing dumpster fire.

Remember guys, accountability is like an out of control car. Depending on the conditions, if u over correct too much u can spin even more out of control, OR, u can flip that shit over and crash and die. So.

7:12, wow, this point blew my mind. This is such a clear issue with their defence, and I missed it completely.

"I'm not racist, I'm ablist. There's a difference"🤓

Girl your hair is absolutely gorgeous today

What gets me about this is if she is that insecure she could have just made fake accounts and only rated her book highly. she didn't have to tank BIPOC books

The thing is I'm not sure that it even matters if she had any personal issues with the POC authors that she targeted. She was racist in her actions and she keeps trying to convince people that they should give a crap whether she's personally biased or not

If you were really bad at social cues and have high social anxiety, you would not be doing an interview that you know thousands will read.

Why does she keep lying??? Like was it not enough of a lesson last time?

The CaitOS😂 is that a pun?

New subscriber, hey. Glad to have you in my youtube streams

@shelleys.corner

4 ай бұрын

Aw, thank you 😊

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